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Watching the Film Class episode again. After listening to the teacher talk, and I get this was 1999, but wow! She was a ding bat with how she talked about her students who at that time are ranging from 13-14 could be future: "dating service people or recording home movies." I mean, talk about setting standards so low for her students. Also with Dr. Handover, he was laughing at his step son's commentary. Also, Jill's thesis/dissertation is a mess. She seems to be going in for a full defense, but then after everything it seems like it is pre-defense. Yes, can you go into a defense and not be successful and have to rewrite it? Yes, happens all the time, and a grad students worst fear after so long of working on this (Jill's case 5 years). However, we never got why Jill chose these specific professors for her committee. A graduate student CHOOSES who they want as their chair and who to be on the committee. The university doesn't just assign you who they feel is right for you. It's who you FEEL is right for you. Jill going over how much she hated Dr. Handover and I wanted to go: "But you wanted him for your chair, don't complain now." 

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On 2/3/2019 at 4:12 PM, readster said:

Watching the Film Class episode again. After listening to the teacher talk, and I get this was 1999, but wow! She was a ding bat with how she talked about her students who at that time are ranging from 13-14 could be future: "dating service people or recording home movies." I mean, talk about setting standards so low for her students. Also with Dr. Handover, he was laughing at his step son's commentary. Also, Jill's thesis/dissertation is a mess. She seems to be going in for a full defense, but then after everything it seems like it is pre-defense. Yes, can you go into a defense and not be successful and have to rewrite it? Yes, happens all the time, and a grad students worst fear after so long of working on this (Jill's case 5 years). However, we never got why Jill chose these specific professors for her committee. A graduate student CHOOSES who they want as their chair and who to be on the committee. The university doesn't just assign you who they feel is right for you. It's who you FEEL is right for you. Jill going over how much she hated Dr. Handover and I wanted to go: "But you wanted him for your chair, don't complain now." 

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On ‎2‎/‎3‎/‎2019 at 2:12 PM, readster said:

Watching the Film Class episode again. After listening to the teacher talk, and I get this was 1999, but wow! She was a ding bat with how she talked about her students who at that time are ranging from 13-14 could be future: "dating service people or recording home movies." I mean, talk about setting standards so low for her students. Also with Dr. Handover, he was laughing at his step son's commentary.  

LOL! Yeah, way to aim low for the students she's teaching. Way to inspire them. What thirteen or fourteen year old dream of that? They're dreaming of making movies. I'm not sure why Dr. Handover is laughing at his stepson's commentary. He finds it hilarious how miserable his stepson is? He's not concerned about the boy? He's not upset at how he's portrayed in the film? Or his stepson airing private issues? Why did the teacher even allow it? She doesn't question her student or talk to his parents? He clearly has issues and airing them the way his isn't a good idea.

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Also, Jill's thesis/dissertation is a mess. She seems to be going in for a full defense, but then after everything it seems like it is pre-defense. Yes, can you go into a defense and not be successful and have to rewrite it? Yes, happens all the time, and a grad students worst fear after so long of working on this (Jill's case 5 years). However, we never got why Jill chose these specific professors for her committee. A graduate student CHOOSES who they want as their chair and who to be on the committee. The university doesn't just assign you who they feel is right for you. It's who you FEEL is right for you. Jill going over how much she hated Dr. Handover and I wanted to go: "But you wanted him for your chair, don't complain now."

It really is and it doesn't really seem like they really know what they are saying because they keep switching back and forth. Most likely they never did any research either because it doesn't make any sense. But still if she's going in for a full defense then why isn't that what we are seeing? Why does it end up being pre-defense. Why didn't they wait for the other professors at the end of the episode? Didn't they all had to be there for it? If not then why were they there in the first place. Why did Jill choose these professors and why wasn't one of them Judith? You'd think she would be one of them. Why did she pick Dr. Handover if she hated him? She purposely made it hard on herself or she couldn't find any other professors who she though would go easy on her. That could go either. Jill is always making things harder then it has to be or I can also see given what we see of her making insane theories, over thinking things, bragging about her grades, GPA and etc. that she'd be so much worse or difficult she was in class. But that's a maybe. I don't doubt professors have taught a lot of students just like Jill or worse. But who knows she managed to get the doctor leading the couples therapy sick of her in such a short amount of time maybe she had the same effect on her professors the five years she was there leaving her only these professors.

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26 minutes ago, andromeda331 said:

LOL! Yeah, way to aim low for the students she's teaching. Way to inspire them. What thirteen or fourteen year old dream of that? They're dreaming of making movies. I'm not sure why Dr. Handover is laughing at his stepson's commentary. He finds it hilarious how miserable his stepson is? He's not concerned about the boy? He's not upset at how he's portrayed in the film? Or his stepson airing private issues? Why did the teacher even allow it? She doesn't question her student or talk to his parents? He clearly has issues and airing them the way his isn't a good idea.

I know because if I saw all that stuff I be going: "Son, we need to talk about this." He was acting more like he has heard this all before and the fact his step son has not only such low self esteem, but to the point he is looking into the military at 14? Um... Ok. Plus, yes, if a school administrator saw that kind of video, I tell you the teacher would have been in the office going: "So, this is how you teach the class? I think we need to talk about your future at this school." 

 

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It really is and it doesn't really seem like they really know what they are saying because they keep switching back and forth. Most likely they never did any research either because it doesn't make any sense. But still if she's going in for a full defense then why isn't that what we are seeing? Why does it end up being pre-defense. Why didn't they wait for the other professors at the end of the episode? Didn't they all had to be there for it? If not then why were they there in the first place. Why did Jill choose these professors and why wasn't one of them Judith? You'd think she would be one of them. Why did she pick Dr. Handover if she hated him? She purposely made it hard on herself or she couldn't find any other professors who she though would go easy on her. That could go either. Jill is always making things harder then it has to be or I can also see given what we see of her making insane theories, over thinking things, bragging about her grades, GPA and etc. that she'd be so much worse or difficult she was in class. But that's a maybe. I don't doubt professors have taught a lot of students just like Jill or worse. But who knows she managed to get the doctor leading the couples therapy sick of her in such a short amount of time maybe she had the same effect on her professors the five years she was there leaving her only these professors.

Yeah, there was so many problems with Jill's defense, plus when she is talking about what her paper is ACTUALLY ABOUT! I wanted to think: "This sounds like something that has been written before." Something about doing dissertations NEVER is one the end all be all of any relationship. Trust me, people are still talking about the post feminine world dealing from people of color to trans gender. Same with engaging readers with books. However, Jill's research sounded like she looked at her own family and the writers basically trying to explain her behavior since season 4. Which would have been thrown out since you CAN'T DO THAT, completely bias research. Yeah, even if HI would have gone on a 9th season, the writers were pretty much showing they were just ready to be done with Jill's schooling. They were bored with it so much, they have her the bottom of the barrow dissertation committee and didn't do any reflection outside that Wilson enjoyed it. 

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I wish that Laff would shuffle the episodes around and show a different season each time instead of airing them in order.

When the show is on in the morning, they show what is at night which happens to be Season 1.

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30 minutes ago, readster said:

I know because if I saw all that stuff I be going: "Son, we need to talk about this." He was acting more like he has heard this all before and the fact his step son has not only such low self esteem, but to the point he is looking into the military at 14? Um... Ok. Plus, yes, if a school administrator saw that kind of video, I tell you the teacher would have been in the office going: "So, this is how you teach the class? I think we need to talk about your future at this school."  

I would be too. Dr. Handover doesn't seemed bothered by it or like its new which given how he's shown to be treated his stepson in the film and how his stepson acts and talks about him in the film. How does he not see its a big deal? Also, has his teacher never talked to her student? Given what he says to Jill and Mark, he's never once made comments to his teacher like that? She's never called his parents to talk to him or maybe just his mother since his stepdad isn't bothered at all? The kid was so worried after his film aired that he was thinking of military school. That's not normal. If a kid is saying stuff like that to a friend, his friend's mother that he just met, and makes a video about it. He clearly is trying to reach out to someone. 

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Yeah, there was so many problems with Jill's defense, plus when she is talking about what her paper is ACTUALLY ABOUT! I wanted to think: "This sounds like something that has been written before." Something about doing dissertations NEVER is one the end all be all of any relationship. Trust me, people are still talking about the post feminine world dealing from people of color to trans gender. Same with engaging readers with books. However, Jill's research sounded like she looked at her own family and the writers basically trying to explain her behavior since season 4. Which would have been thrown out since you CAN'T DO THAT, completely bias research. Yeah, even if HI would have gone on a 9th season, the writers were pretty much showing they were just ready to be done with Jill's schooling. They were bored with it so much, they have her the bottom of the barrow dissertation committee and didn't do any reflection outside that Wilson enjoyed it.

 

It does sound like she's just basing her research on her own family which no you can't do that nor should you. She's too close to make any objective observations and she's basing everything about her thesis on one family. How can she even argue anything or use any data or come to any conclusions when all she's researched is one family? Why hasn't she researched dozens of families to see exactly how the father and son relationship has changed with feminism. What about ones where the father is the stay at home parent and his wife is the breadwinner? Or single fathers? What about different parts of the countries? Different backgrounds, fathers and sons of color, or different cultural backgrounds in the US? I'm not even sure how much focusing on her own family would do anything. Tim lost his father young. So his last six or seven years of being raised were by his mother. I don't mind to a point that her paper is feminism. Its not uncommon for papers. But she doesn't even really go outside any boxes.  She could have picked so many different ideas then what she picked. Nor did we really see her think about what the professor said. Yes, she rewrote it and didn't like it. But she was against the idea, didn't like, and only considered going with it to pass. She never once stops to think of it from a different point of view, considering the mother and son relationship. Its not uncommon for after you've written a paper, story, thesis for someone to ask you something you didn't think or consider. Then stop and think about it and wonder if that would in fact make it better and sometimes that idea ends up being better. But that doesn't even happen. Which is disappointing but not surprising.  It would have been interesting to watch her think about it, debate, consider, etc. 

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1 hour ago, andromeda331 said:

I would be too. Dr. Handover doesn't seemed bothered by it or like its new which given how he's shown to be treated his stepson in the film and how his stepson acts and talks about him in the film. How does he not see its a big deal? Also, has his teacher never talked to her student? Given what he says to Jill and Mark, he's never once made comments to his teacher like that? She's never called his parents to talk to him or maybe just his mother since his stepdad isn't bothered at all? The kid was so worried after his film aired that he was thinking of military school. That's not normal. If a kid is saying stuff like that to a friend, his friend's mother that he just met, and makes a video about it. He clearly is trying to reach out to someone. 

Right, and he's suppose to be a psychologist himself, yet he is ignoring own son's cries for help. Plus, when you see a dip in a student or a reoccurring theme, if anything you reach out to the school counselor, which we KNOW that middle school did have. It just rings as: "This kid has some serious issues and no one seems to care?" I also find it odd that Dr. Handover's wife was the real reason why he finally shaved his head saying: "She came at me with hedge clippers if I didn't do something!" So, on the night she CAN'T come to her own son's presentation, but hey as soon as they come home: "Damn you, Alan, I'm going to cut that awful hair myself!" Ummm... huh? I also found it funny the other professors didn't react to it either. I get Jill's situation, especially when it was the next day after. However, the other professors all acted like they didn't see Handover all say and then they didn't go: "Wow! You finally cut that horrible comb over." Too many holes in that story. Especially, when we would see Dr. Handover the next three episodes. 

 

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It does sound like she's just basing her research on her own family which no you can't do that nor should you. She's too close to make any objective observations and she's basing everything about her thesis on one family. How can she even argue anything or use any data or come to any conclusions when all she's researched is one family? Why hasn't she researched dozens of families to see exactly how the father and son relationship has changed with feminism. What about ones where the father is the stay at home parent and his wife is the breadwinner? Or single fathers? What about different parts of the countries? Different backgrounds, fathers and sons of color, or different cultural backgrounds in the US? I'm not even sure how much focusing on her own family would do anything. Tim lost his father young. So his last six or seven years of being raised were by his mother. I don't mind to a point that her paper is feminism. Its not uncommon for papers. But she doesn't even really go outside any boxes.  She could have picked so many different ideas then what she picked. Nor did we really see her think about what the professor said. Yes, she rewrote it and didn't like it. But she was against the idea, didn't like, and only considered going with it to pass. She never once stops to think of it from a different point of view, considering the mother and son relationship. Its not uncommon for after you've written a paper, story, thesis for someone to ask you something you didn't think or consider. Then stop and think about it and wonder if that would in fact make it better and sometimes that idea ends up being better. But that doesn't even happen. Which is disappointing but not surprising.  It would have been interesting to watch her think about it, debate, consider, etc. 

During all the talk and endless amounts of books over season 7-8 never ONCE did we hear about Jill going to conduct any interviews or anything. Yes, we saw her interning and so forth, but when did she interview the families? Something about dissertations, even if they are about just numbers or case studies, which Jill's sounded like was a case studies. They do require research, can the research happen fast? Oh sure, I had a few friends finished their main research in 2 months and then wrote about it as they went and had their main draft completed 2 months later and defended the following month. We just saw Jill complaining and putting her foot in her mouth over and over and then magically she had a finished thesis/dissertation. 

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3 hours ago, readster said:

Right, and he's suppose to be a psychologist himself, yet he is ignoring own son's cries for help. Plus, when you see a dip in a student or a reoccurring theme, if anything you reach out to the school counselor, which we KNOW that middle school did have. It just rings as: "This kid has some serious issues and no one seems to care?" I also find it odd that Dr. Handover's wife was the real reason why he finally shaved his head saying: "She came at me with hedge clippers if I didn't do something!" So, on the night she CAN'T come to her own son's presentation, but hey as soon as they come home: "Damn you, Alan, I'm going to cut that awful hair myself!" Ummm... huh? I also found it funny the other professors didn't react to it either. I get Jill's situation, especially when it was the next day after. However, the other professors all acted like they didn't see Handover all say and then they didn't go: "Wow! You finally cut that horrible comb over." Too many holes in that story. Especially, when we would see Dr. Handover the next three episodes. 

That's a good point about his mom. She more worried about her husband's hair then her son clearly having issues? It doesn't make sense. Are they both crappy parents who don't give a crap about their son? That's how they come off. The teacher should have picked up on it and told the school counselor who then should have met with all three to find out what's going on. By the end of the episode everything is worked out between him and Jill but no mention of his stepson. He'll take the time to talk things out with Jill but not work things out with his stepson? He can laugh about his hair at the end but still no sign he's going to work things out with his stepson? And yet he's in three more episodes. I didn't think about the other professors but your right they should have had a reaction to his hair cut too. 

 

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During all the talk and endless amounts of books over season 7-8 never ONCE did we hear about Jill going to conduct any interviews or anything. Yes, we saw her interning and so forth, but when did she interview the families? Something about dissertations, even if they are about just numbers or case studies, which Jill's sounded like was a case studies. They do require research, can the research happen fast? Oh sure, I had a few friends finished their main research in 2 months and then wrote about it as they went and had their main draft completed 2 months later and defended the following month. We just saw Jill complaining and putting her foot in her mouth over and over and then magically she had a finished thesis/dissertation

. No, they didn't. All of that would have been interesting. To see her interviewing different families could have been for some really great storyline. Doing research and looking up case stories. Did she learn anything from it? If so what? Did any of the interviews or research challenge or change her thinking?  It would have been more interesting then just hear her talking about it, complaining about it and listening to her not want to change what she wrote. We don't even know what she wrote. Seeing her do the interviews, research and stuff would have made it better when it came to watch her defend what she wrote. We would have been more invested in the outcome because we followed her through it. Seen all the work she did.

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7 hours ago, andromeda331 said:

. No, they didn't. All of that would have been interesting. To see her interviewing different families could have been for some really great storyline. Doing research and looking up case stories. Did she learn anything from it? If so what? Did any of the interviews or research challenge or change her thinking?  It would have been more interesting then just hear her talking about it, complaining about it and listening to her not want to change what she wrote. We don't even know what she wrote. Seeing her do the interviews, research and stuff would have made it better when it came to watch her defend what she wrote. We would have been more invested in the outcome because we followed her through it. Seen all the work she did.

It's also like when Bud started making all these changes to Tool Time and Morgan coming in. I mean, there was no follow through with Bud's thinking. He didn't even say why he wanted nothing, but Binford or why he would bring Morgan in. Plus, when they seeing that Tim and Al had to wear plain yellow jump suits for working (which looked horrible), I was even more shocked with Heidi's "thong" bikini. Yeah, it was the late 90s, but unless you clear that with the network, you can't put a woman, who "has a brain" in a string bikini just to get more ratings and take care of horny teens and men. Yeah, I get that they were showing that Morgan just wanted to copy other people's work, but that's the thing about Jerry Springer and all the talk shows that were doing stuff like that in the late 90s early 2000s. The networks were aware of what was going on with the show. Knew that they most likely get swearing, partial nudity, ect. Like we have said before, I know it was the writers trying to give a reason why Tim, Al, Heidi would quit and leave the show. However, it just seemed so extreme, when really when people change things like that. It's slowly. First it's removing a few things, having someone appear more often, do more of the work, slow changes in dress codes, ect. You don't go from 0 to 60 and think everyone is just going to smile and go: "Good job!" 

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On ‎2‎/‎7‎/‎2019 at 6:01 AM, readster said:

It's also like when Bud started making all these changes to Tool Time and Morgan coming in. I mean, there was no follow through with Bud's thinking. He didn't even say why he wanted nothing, but Binford or why he would bring Morgan in. Plus, when they seeing that Tim and Al had to wear plain yellow jump suits for working (which looked horrible), I was even more shocked with Heidi's "thong" bikini. Yeah, it was the late 90s, but unless you clear that with the network, you can't put a woman, who "has a brain" in a string bikini just to get more ratings and take care of horny teens and men. Yeah, I get that they were showing that Morgan just wanted to copy other people's work, but that's the thing about Jerry Springer and all the talk shows that were doing stuff like that in the late 90s early 2000s. The networks were aware of what was going on with the show. Knew that they most likely get swearing, partial nudity, ect. Like we have said before, I know it was the writers trying to give a reason why Tim, Al, Heidi would quit and leave the show. However, it just seemed so extreme, when really when people change things like that. It's slowly. First it's removing a few things, having someone appear more often, do more of the work, slow changes in dress codes, ect. You don't go from 0 to 60 and think everyone is just going to smile and go: "Good job!" 

Going slower would have made more sense. Between that and showing Jill interviewing families for her thesis would have made season eight more interesting. If they had sprinkled it throughout season eight it would have helped. And yes they needed to explain why which they never did. Their has to be a reason for all those changes. The show getting killed in ratings, a new tool show that was beating Tool Time, Binford and Tool Time losing money, or were bought out by someone else. There has to be a reason Morgan is brought it. Bud hiring just isn't enough. He either would be brought on to save the show which would explain his plans everything he did are signs a show is going under. Or he had to be some new hot shot executive who managed to do great things with other shows and/or improve their ratings. Binford losing money could have made for interesting TV Tim loved Binford and worked for them for decades. How would he feel that it might be going down? Or maybe it was bought out. Again same thing. I could see him trying really hard to put up with all the changes because he's always been with Binford and has an emotional connection due to John Binford but could still have all three deciding to quit. Or skip Morgan all together and keep Bud as the bad guy. He made all those promises to Tim and never kept a single one and basically stringed him along while making really poor decisions. Maybe he finally has enough and quits. Maybe Bud's the one making bad decisions because he's looking to dump the show or preparing to sell it for big money. Or making decisions based on money that make Tim realize Binford isn't the same company anymore. There's a lot of things they could have done Tim's been with Binford practically his entire adult life, but companies change and since Binford's death they changed so much more. Plus he has kept being promised more from Bud that never happened. He could finally be tired or realized he was being promised stuff that's never going to happen.

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6 hours ago, andromeda331 said:

Or skip Morgan all together and keep Bud as the bad guy. He made all those promises to Tim and never kept a single one and basically stringed him along while making really poor decisions. Maybe he finally has enough and quits. Maybe Bud's the one making bad decisions because he's looking to dump the show or preparing to sell it for big money. Or making decisions based on money that make Tim realize Binford isn't the same company anymore. There's a lot of things they could have done Tim's been with Binford practically his entire adult life, but companies change and since Binford's death they changed so much more. Plus he has kept being promised more from Bud that never happened. He could finally be tired or realized he was being promised stuff that's never going to happen.

That could have worked too. I've worked for people in the past where things were going in a positive direction, but promises weren't kept and then things just kept going more down hill. I believe it was more for the writers not able to use Charles Robinson as much due to his filming schedule. After Ink went under on CBS he was doing various other shows. Plus, I think the writers felt there had been too much work done on Bud over the years and wanted it to be more he decided to just move on. However, his changes never made sense. However, I think it would have made more sense as Tim was so loyal to the company for so long and then to see it turn into a disaster was heart breaking for him.

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5 hours ago, readster said:

That could have worked too. I've worked for people in the past where things were going in a positive direction, but promises weren't kept and then things just kept going more down hill. I believe it was more for the writers not able to use Charles Robinson as much due to his filming schedule. After Ink went under on CBS he was doing various other shows. Plus, I think the writers felt there had been too much work done on Bud over the years and wanted it to be more he decided to just move on. However, his changes never made sense. However, I think it would have made more sense as Tim was so loyal to the company for so long and then to see it turn into a disaster was heart breaking for him.

It really could have. Tim was always trying to get Bud to listen to his ideas and Bud always said he was going to listen to him. Promising that things were going to happen but never did. At some point Tim has to realize that is never going to happen. They could have made Bud the bad guy making all those changes or simply the typical CEO more interested in making money and just making promise he never intends to keep just saying stuff to keep Tim on board or something. With Charles Robinson so busy they really should have just brought someone else on and soon her. He could have worked under Bud and still have Bud show up whenever the schedule allowed to be the big boss. Tim was so loyal to the company and loved Binford I could see him trying to stay on even after all the changes, as things kept getting worse because he loves the company and never wanted to work anywhere else. Tim having to make a really hard decision to quit, show him talking it over with Jill instead of the sudden at the end when she's not really listening until the day he quits. They both could be praying things get better while worrying about what they'll do if Tim quits. That could lead Jill to be stressing out on that. What are they going to do for money? He's the only one with a job and it could take awhile to find a new job, worrying about money, worrying about what happens if Brad doesn't get the scholarship they might not be able to afford to pay for college, Brad could be worried and upset he's so close to going to college and until now its always been a certainty that he'll go. Now he might not. Maybe that causes him to try and push himself harder in practice and games trying to get that scholarship and injure his knee. Jill could be trying to get her thesis done as fast as she can and worrying about afterwards. Having to find a job as quickly and that makes enough money to support her family until if Tim can't find a job so. They could have used trouble at Binford to spread into storylines for Tim, Jill and Brad. Maybe Mark too just in general or if Jill and Tim look into jobs outside of Detroit. Instead of being happy to be move he could have been upset. He's finally got a best friend, busy with filming and doesn't want to leave his home. Wilson too maybe he's worried about the Taylor struggles or if they move and wonder what he's going to do without them around maybe he considers taking a teaching job at one of the colleges, marrying Judith, traveling again or maybe both. Maybe he decides to write a book about all the places he's been and people he's met. Al could be worrying about what he's going to do. Things are going great with Trudy but now he could be looking for a new job and worrying about his relationship with Trudy, they just started dating and its going great but if he can't find a job or gets offered somewhere else worrying about asking her to move. They really could have built all of season eight around that and given or improved the storylines they had for everyone. Jill could still have her surgery. Maybe she goes in for a routine exam or goes in case they end up not having insurance for awhile to get checked out and find the cysts. Marty could be worried since he's always gone to Tim for help, money and is currently staying with them. Maybe that could finally give him the kick in the pants he needs to find a job and start supporting and taking care of himself and his kids.

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On 2/10/2019 at 1:01 PM, andromeda331 said:

 Tim having to make a really hard decision to quit, show him talking it over with Jill instead of the sudden at the end when she's not really listening until the day he quits. They both could be praying things get better while worrying about what they'll do if Tim quits. That could lead Jill to be stressing out on that. What are they going to do for money?

That what was so inconstant with Jill. She wanted Tim to listen to her problems and read her mind on what she was feeling. However, when Tim needed Jill to listen or understand he was having problems. It was: "Oh, whatever, I don't care, that's your problems, Tim. I'M MORE IMPORTANT. Haven't you been listening to how I moved 8 times growing up the past 20 years?" The time Jill did listen is when Tim kept jumping to Bud's orders, which, yes, Jill was very in the right. However, the times when Tim was going through his "mid life" crisis or his work starting to degrade it was: "Oh well, get over it, hey! I need to go get a piano I can't play, but it has memories to it. I'm off to talk to my cousin everyone else in the family avoids." 

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