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S06.E10: Backed Into a Corner

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Ashley & Jay elope in Vegas. Colt & Larissa argue in front of friends. Steven applies for Richie's American passport. Leida meets with Eric's ex-wife. Jon upsets Fernanda by staying out late with a friend. Kalani & Asuelu get news that changes everything.

 

Drogo, I have no idea what this evening's ep title is. Only that the ep was three hours of bad holiday eggnog.

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1 minute ago, Kangatush said:

"Backed Into A Corner"

 

I love how Kalani, and Mother Kalani, turn a consensual act, with joint responsibility for consequences, into all Aseulu's fault.  Just off the top of my head I thought of diaphragm, IUD, and condoms (if he doesn't like them, don't have sex) that wouldn't have any issues for a breast feeding mom.  "This makes me want to marry him even less", yes because the single mother of two is such a wise life choice, if there are other options.

I fast forwarded through the Colt and Larissa bits.  Maybe I'd be slightly more inclined to believe they might break up, if TLC didn't already have Debbie on the last Live show, obviously having spent time with a still in the US Larissa.

I liked Father Eric and his subtle digs on how you stand behind your kids, even when they're idiots.  

Ashley, if you want a man, don't pick a 20 year old.  And OMG, TLC did grant one of my dreams.  All during the fight with Natalie I kept seeing the scooter and super hoping it was hers.  AND IT WAS!

Yep, I have to admit that tomorrow's migraine (from rolling my eyes all the way back to the base of my spine) will be worth it because of the laughter I got out of watching her zip off on that little thing.  

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11 minutes ago, charmed1 said:

The foster mom/guardian/Sammy Hagar/family friend whatever for Beavis may very well believe that he is the salt of the earth, but he probably gave her the Eddie Haskell act while in front of her face, and became his true self behind closed doors. 

Eddie Haskell! NAILED IT! image.png.195e5397dd19ffd9b81497174743af6f.png

Won't it be at least a couple of years before Richie is aware of a father figure in his life? Why can't he stay with Olga until she's able to bring him to the US? There will be plenty of time for father-son bonding after that. 

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Who hasn't had a friend like the inimitable Natalie, who manages to make every situation about HER and HER FEELINGS and how YOU SHOULD NOT do whatever you're doing because of the way it impacts HER, whether or not it's a good choice for you.

 

Also, Jesse looks like shit in that suit. Not only is his bow tie crooked and drooping, but the cut accentuates hie narrow, sloping shoulders. And he has no idea how to fit in formal wear. 

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15 minutes ago, guilfoyleatpp said:

Also, Jesse looks like shit in that suit. Not only is his bow tie crooked and drooping, but the cut accentuates hie narrow, sloping shoulders. And he has no idea how to fit in formal wear. 

Clearly he hasn’t been working on himself as much as we thought.

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47 minutes ago, guilfoyleatpp said:

 

 

Also, Jesse looks like shit in that suit. Not only is his bow tie crooked and drooping, but the cut accentuates hie narrow, sloping shoulders. And he has no idea how to fit in formal wear. 

I want to see a video of Jesse lip-synching "Der Kommissar" by Falco.

Cha!

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A few posters in the Live Thread suggested that Fernanda hop in her Jeep and volunteer/keep herself busy since she’s so bored during the day.

I can’t believe I’m defending a teenager who wants her mother-in-law to be her BFF and for everyone else to love her (plllllleaase!), but....last time I checked, it’s against the law for her drive in the US during the first 90 days.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but if Fernanda (and other foreign spouses-to-be) had gotten into her Jeep and wanted to participate in organized activities during the day, there isn’t a whole lot anyone can do by themselves during the first 90 days, especially from the legal side of things.

She isn’t legally allowed to drive in this country (I’d imagine Larissa was in the same position) and while we did hear about Jay driving Ashley’s car at night,  he’s either an idiot who didn’t know/care about the restrictions or he had some all powerful international/Jamaican license to use in case he needed to show ID. I don’t remember the exact requirements for initially getting car insurance here, but I’m pretty sure the foreigners can’t be added to their future partners’ plans on day 10 even if they have a license to drive in their home country. 

I don’t even know what the rules are for foreign spouses to work or go to school after they’re married and are waiting for their green card (it’s way too late to Google), but in terms of volunteering before anyone says “I do”, those options are more limited than you’d think.

Many places that need/take volunteers (libraries, humane society, hospitals, senior citizen communities) also require fingerprints, TB tests, background checks, and valid identification. Most companies can’t/won’t risk allowing someone to volunteer, no matter how great they are, if they can’t provide certain documentation. Most companies don’t even want to take the time to train someone only to have them end up leaving a few weeks later.

A lot of the manufactured drama seems to stem from desperately bored folks who are homesick and irritated with the limitations that are placed on them. 

I don’t know what’s holding “the foreigners” back from walking through their neighborhoods, stopping for a coffee & small talk with the locals or even attending a lecture or art show at a library. I realize we aren’t dealing with a group of Einsteins, but if they’d ever actually leave the house by themselves during the day, they might be a lot happier. If they could be on some sort of schedule, get out and go somewhere (utilize a ride share company, ride the bus/subway) to explore their new hometowns, and practice their English while interacting with others, I think they’d be a bit happier and a hell of a lot less upset, clingy and/or resentful. Just my 2 cents.

I know there are people on this board who have married someone and moved away to a new country. There are others who’ve gone through the K-1 visa process as well. Would anyone mind sharing what their first 90 days were like? You undoubtedly have much more knowledge than I do about this issue. Thanks in advance for sharing your experience(s).

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3 hours ago, millennium said:

I want to see a video of Jesse lip-synching "Der Kommissar" by Falco.

Cha!

I thought Der Kommissar was by After the Fire, and Rock Me Amadeus by Falco. I love my some 80s music. 

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3 hours ago, liammaam said:

Natalie: 

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IDK why People are so excited about the scooter/moped situation but i think it’s hilarious that people are so excited about it. 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣 (Myabe it’s because scooters/motorbikes are so common in Indonesia.)

but I got SO ANNOYED when she said, “they’ve been taught since they were babies/born to leave Jamaica, leave Jamaica.” And get a green card?

WTF. So insulting. I get that maybe it is his motivation and most of the foreign fiancés (except for Olga) want that, but not everybody wants to be a US citizen or move to the US.

I’m not hating on America, I lived there for nearly 6 years, I had a good childhood there, there are plenty of good things America has to offer, but I just can’t with Natalie’s jingoism (okay not as jingoistic as Eric was, but still annoying). Stop it Natalie.

or was Ashley’s scooter-riding BFF’s name Natasha? Whatever. She needs to shut up, go home, and enjoy America.

girl BYE.

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5 hours ago, charmed1 said:

 Beavis 

OMG brillz Steven totally IS Beavis! 

Kalani is scary. WTAF!  Dismisses Auselo so she and her mother can BOTH  blame HIM for this mess. 

I still think their (mom too) brand of dysfunction is from years of self preservation from abuse from Father Kalani. Running from blame for survival . Fearful like a dog who rolls over exposing their belly. That is one fucked up family. 

She is damaged worse than Steven. Worse than Leida. Kalani's baggage does not fit nicely in the overhead compartment. 

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50 minutes ago, Bridget said:

A few posters in the Live Thread suggested that Fernanda hop in her Jeep and volunteer/keep herself busy since she’s so bored during the day.

I can’t believe I’m defending a teenager who wants her mother-in-law to be her BFF and for everyone else to love her (plllllleaase!), but....last time I checked, it’s against the law for her drive in the US during the first 90 days.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but if Fernanda (and other foreign spouses-to-be) had gotten into her Jeep and wanted to participate in organized activities during the day, there isn’t a whole lot anyone can do by themselves during the first 90 days, especially from the legal side of things.

She isn’t legally allowed to drive in this country (I’d imagine Larissa was in the same position) and while we did hear about Jay driving Ashley’s car at night,  he’s either an idiot who didn’t know/care about the restrictions or he had some all powerful international/Jamaican license to use in case he needed to show ID. I don’t remember the exact requirements for initially getting car insurance here, but I’m pretty sure the foreigners can’t be added to their future partners’ plans on day 10 even if they have a license to drive in their home country. 

I don’t even know what the rules are for foreign spouses to work or go to school after they’re married and are waiting for their green card (it’s way too late to Google), but in terms of volunteering before anyone says “I do”, those options are more limited than you’d think.

Many places that need/take volunteers (libraries, humane society, hospitals, senior citizen communities) also require fingerprints, TB tests, background checks, and valid identification. Most companies can’t/won’t risk allowing someone to volunteer, no matter how great they are, if they can’t provide certain documentation. Most companies don’t even want to take the time to train someone only to have them end up leaving a few weeks later.

A lot of the manufactured drama seems to stem from desperately bored folks who are homesick and irritated with the limitations that are placed on them. 

I don’t know what’s holding “the foreigners” back from walking through their neighborhoods, stopping for a coffee & small talk with the locals or even attending a lecture or art show at a library. I realize we aren’t dealing with a group of Einsteins, but if they’d ever actually leave the house by themselves during the day, they might be a lot happier. If they could be on some sort of schedule, get out and go somewhere (utilize a ride share company, ride the bus/subway) to explore their new hometowns, and practice their English while interacting with others, I think they’d be a bit happier and a hell of a lot less upset, clingy and/or resentful. Just my 2 cents.

I know there are people on this board who have married someone and moved away to a new country. There are others who’ve gone through the K-1 visa process as well. Would anyone mind sharing what their first 90 days were like? You undoubtedly have much more knowledge than I do about this issue. Thanks in advance for sharing your experience(s).

 

You can drive on an international drivers licence which is good for a year. It’s just a piece of paper from your local automotive club that extends you the privilege. Although it was frightening learning to drive on the other side of the road. Most times I would cycle, but without dedicated lanes even that was scary. I lived in nw Florida where public transport was scant and it was so bloody hot. I volunteered at the local school but what saved me was the hodgepodge community of Australian ex pats around the country. Message boards saved my life. It was 1998 so it wasn’t too tech with  no Skype or Facebook. We even had a dial up modem. It was very expensive to ring home, but a necessary indulgence. It got better when I gained some independence and friends, but yep it’s hard and I’m not an overly whiney person. I think for me it was a mixture of culture shock and home sickness.

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Y'all remember in The Hangover when Stu said that Alan "May look like a man, but he's really a child"? That's Asuelu. I know speaking a second language is difficult, and his speech may slow- but his entire mannerisms and countenance scream "special". His voice is so high pitched, I can't believe his nut sack even dropped! I ain't never heard a man speak with such a high voice! And Kalani, if a man dont wanna wrap it up, don't GIVE it up! The end. And have no idea why people don't pull out anymore? The pull out method is almost as effective as condoms when done properly. Don't believe me? Ask almost every girl in my high school senior class. 

Molly is an idiot. Wtf cares? She wanted his dumbass, and everyone could see his motives a mile away. These women need to grow up. 

Leida said she "doesn't care if she's the evil stepmother". Well bitch, you got your wish. Cause you just turned Tasha into Cinderella. 

Jon, Fernanda may have a woman's body, but her mind is still a child. You will need to be both daddy AND lover. Your bed dude. 

I'm here for Larissa's jumpsuits, they remind me of the one Marisa Tomei wore in "My Cousin Vinny", where she's stomping her foot bitching about her internal time clock. Been in love with jumpsuits ever since that scene.

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5 minutes ago, Cammi said:

Y'all remember in The Hangover when Stu said that Alan "May look like a man, but he's really a child"? That's Asuelu. I know speaking a second language is difficult, and his speech may slow- but his entire mannerisms and countenance scream "special". And Kalami, if a man dont wanna wrap it up, don't GIVE it up! The end. And have no idea why people don't pull out anymore? The pull out method it almost as effective as cindoms when done properly. 

Molly is an idiot. Wtf cares? She wanted his dumbass, and everyone could see his motives a mile away. These women need to grow up. 

Leida said she "doesn't care if she's the evil stepmother". Well bitch, you got your wish. Cause you just turned Tasha into Cinderella. 

Jon, Fernanda may have a woman's body, but her mind is still a child. You will need to be both daddy AND lover. Your bed dude. 

I'm here for Larissa's jumpsuits, these two are so awkward to stomach. 

Sluts might wear a sock but porn stars pull out when every animal instinct is screaming push in.

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Another random thought:

I paid extra attention to Steven/Olga’s scenes this time (I made a point of doing so).

And while I think Steven is a jerk, there are legit parts of their scenes that make me think he’s probably a victim of bad editing.

Like Olga said, “but I can’t come to America IFI I don’t have visa.”

And then CUT TO:

Steven saying, “I know.”

That could’ve easily been a part of a larger conversation where Steven actually tried to help and find a solution for Olga to get a visa sooner!

It certainly helps that Steven has this cocky annoying sk8er punk attitude, why not build on that?

I’m not defending Steven (everyone is RIGHTFULLY OUTRAGED by the Monster we see on TV, so don’t get me wrong).

I’m just wondering if that Monster we see on TV was a product of bad editing?

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2 hours ago, jacksgirl said:

I thought Der Kommissar was by After the Fire, and Rock Me Amadeus by Falco. I love my some 80s music. 

It's Falco's song.   He did it in German.   After The Fire covered it in English.

I can SO see Jesse doing this:

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3 hours ago, The Evil One said:

 

Can we throw Fernanda and the Jamaican guy together and then pair Jon and Trashley together?

 

Trashley?   That's awful (but funny).

Ashley has a son.  Where is he?   What have they done with him?   As far as we have seen, the son has not been introduced to the strange Jamaican man about to marry his mother.

1 hour ago, Cammi said:

 The pull out method is almost as effective as condoms when done properly. Don't believe me? Ask almost every girl in my high school senior class. 

 

Know what they call girls who rely on the pull-out method?

Mothers.

(Sorry, but I couldn't just let that go.)

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8 hours ago, Frozendiva said:

I hope that Steven's guardian was right about him in the extra hour

I couldn't stay awake for the full 3 hours.  Can somebody fill me in about this?

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1 minute ago, Granny58 said:

I couldn't stay awake for the full 3 hours.  Can somebody fill me in about this?

Not me.   I opted out of Hour 3.   Even wretches like me have standards.  

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I used to work in the auto insurance field, so I was curious about the legality of the 90-Day foreign visitors driving in the USA.  In North Carolina, if they are here legally on a visa (which Fernanda is), they can drive in the USA if they have a Mexican license.  Every state is different, but if she has a Mexican license, she's okay to drive according to NC law.  

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8 minutes ago, Granny58 said:

I couldn't stay awake for the full 3 hours.  Can somebody fill me in about this?

In essence, she said that he's a really good kid and has been the victim of bad editing. I have my doubts.

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5 minutes ago, Gobi said:

In essence, she said that he's a really good kid and has been the victim of bad editing. I have my doubts.

Thank you.  Knowing how TLC manipulates our emotions with their editing it is wholly possible.  

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8 hours ago, Frozendiva said:

<snip>

I hope that Steven's guardian was right about him in the extra hour. He does not come across well and Olga should find someone who can help her look after her own interests. Go to the US Embassy with him and see what your rights are. <snip>

Olga *can't* go to the U.S. Embassy with Steven.

According to the Russian U.S. Embassy website, under the subheading "Visiting U.S. Embassy in Moscow", it states:

"Due to security considerations, there is no information window for walk-in visitors at the U.S. Embassy. Only visa applicants with scheduled interviews will be admitted."

 

1 hour ago, Owwwww ma leg said:

You can drive on an international drivers licence which is good for a year. It’s just a piece of paper from your local automotive club that extends you the privilege.<snip>

First, you must have a driver's license from your home country (remember, many of the countries of which these "90 Day Fiance's" are citizens are poor countries, in which driving and owning/having access to vehicles is a privilege enjoyed by those who have money).

It may very well be neither Fernanda or Larissa have driver's licenses from their home countries.

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2 hours ago, CSS.MD said:

DK why People are so excited about the scooter/moped situation but i think it’s hilarious that people are so excited about it. 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣 (Myabe it’s because scooters/motorbikes are so common in Indonesia.)

I live in a congested American city, so we have alternate means of transportation (subway, bus, rental bikes/scooters, Uber, etc.) but mopeds are generally something used by young teen boys, hipsters, and delivery people. Seeing a 30-ish? woman in a criss-cross top scooting around a residential neighborhood in the suburbs isn’t a very common sight.

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3 minutes ago, Drogo said:

Natalie angrily scooting away is my spirit animal.  Everything about that exit was fantastic.

She might as well have gotten into an oversized hamster ball, AFAIC.

I'm imagining her riding over to Ashley's house on her hog, with the wind in her hair, bugs in her teeth, the engine throbbing between her legs, psyching herself up for the confrontation to come. Shit yeah! Nothing says adrenaline like riding a scooter.

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8 minutes ago, Drogo said:

I think deep down her fantasy was Ashley saying "It's always been you, Natalie... you're the one!"- hopping on the back of the scooter with a bride helmet, riding away and leaving Jay crying on the lawn.

I'm sending a Lifetime movie in the making...

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6 minutes ago, Drogo said:

I think deep down her fantasy was Ashley saying "It's always been you, Natalie... you're the one!"- hopping on the back of the scooter with a bride helmet, riding away and leaving Jay crying on the lawn.

The only way it would have been better is if she stopped Trashley from getting on the plane to Vegas, while the spectators clapped in the background.

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4 hours ago, Cammi said:

<snip> And have no idea why people don't pull out anymore? The pull out method is almost as effective as condoms when done properly. Don't believe me? Ask almost every girl in my high school senior class. <snip>

 

I'll bet at least a few of those girls from your high school class who took several months off from school to "recover from mono" didn't have mono at all...

According to the CDC:

Typical use failure rate [of condoms]: 13%."

In comparison to the withdrawal ("pull out") method, this study:

Withdrawal as pregnancy prevention and associated risk factors among US high school students: findings from the 2011 National Youth Risk Behavior Survey found a typical use failure rate of 27% - twice the failure rate of condoms.

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Eric's dad was super shady, and I was totally down for it!! Eric was not picking up what he was putting down with his whole having to stand quietly by while your kids eff up and just watch it. Epic shade, dad. Epic shade.

Also, while I am 53, I suspect the roundhouse kick I wanted to aim at Eric's head while he was talking about tough love with Tasha (by kicking her out of the home she invited him to move into when she wasn't showing him the same tough love) could've taken him down for the count. I suspect Eric might be irony impaired. 

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