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Completely unsurprising because my TL is nothing but Arrow and Olicity right now. I've never seen it like this before, not even after the wedding.

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Arrow star on their shocking exit from the show: 'It's not the end"

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: How did your exit come about? Was it your decision, the producers’, or something mutual?
ECHO KELLUM: I had a conversation with [then-showrunner] Marc Guggenheim in season 6. It was my idea. I have kids — I have a 12-year-old — and it was just starting to feel like I should be back home more.

First of all, I love working on this show. I love the cast, the producers. It’s the best cast I’ve ever worked with, the best studio. They’ve taken such great care of me and made me feel like I’ve been there since season 1. So all of this has been very bittersweet because I actually feel very crestfallen, because it’s so tough to leave such an amazing show. But I think for me, it just boiled down to family, and also I just wanted to try a couple of creative ventures in my life. I’m working on music, directing, and writing now. I still love acting, but it’s something I’m not looking at as the top thing of my career anymore. I’m looking at my career in a different light.

So, I approached Marc. We had a long conversation about family and fatherhood and all those things, and he totally got where I was coming from. You know, Warner Bros. and the network were so generous to be able to let me exit gracefully. What I will say, this isn’t the end of Curtis. I’ll definitely come back as much as they want me back, and visit and guest-star and whatnot. So, it’s not the end of him. I guess it’s really a family decision overall, just to be a little closer to my kids. I’ve been around my kids more during the school parts of the year the most that I have been in the last four years, even in the past month. It was definitely not an easy decision.

The episode ends with Curtis deciding he can put his tech to better use in Washington after he gets his job offer. How did you feel about the way Curtis was written off?
I liked it because it’s still innately Curtis wanting to help other people. He’s leaving in a way where he can try to have a bigger impact in trying to help other people in the world. I really appreciate that, because I hope it leaves open the door for him to pop back in every once in a while until they get to their 300th episode. [laughs]

What was your last day on set like?
It was very emotional. I definitely cried. Everyone cried. It was really difficult because they are my family and all of us have such a great rapport, on screen and off the screen. The last day was really tough. A lot of tears, a lot of cakes. But the last day, we shot in this spooky house, so it was very interesting. I feel good about my decision overall, but I’m going to miss all of them, miss being the trenches with them every day and laughing on set and just being silly, and then also just telling this amazing story that our amazing writers are crafting. So it’s just definitely very bittersweet. I’m exited for what’s in the future, but it’s tough to leave such an amazing show.

Have you started talking to the writers about when that potential return might happen, or is that still far off?
We’ve had some discussions. Nothing’s been finalized at this point, but we’ve definitely discussed that aspect and they definitely made sure and clear that they want Curtis to come back. I can’t give you any definitive episodes or storylines, but it’s definitely something I’m 100-percent open to doing, and I believe they’re open to doing it too, so it should definitely work out at some point in the future.

If things aligned where you were available and they wanted you back, would you want to be involved in next year’s big “Crisis on Infinite Earths” crossover?
Of course, 100 percent! That’s going to be so epic and amazing! I would love to be a part of those crossovers.

https://ew.com/tv/2019/02/11/arrow-echo-kellum-terrific-exit/

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If this IGN reviewer wants Arrow to adopt a "less soap operatic approach", then he should've stopped watching the show in Season 1...

ARROW SEASON 7, EPISODE 13: "STAR CITY SLAYER" REVIEW
BY JESSE SCHEEDEN   11 FEB 2019
https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/02/12/arrow-season-7-episode-13-star-city-slayer-review

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Probably the most consistently frustrating thing about the Arrowverse is how rare it is to find compelling minor villains. For every Reverse-Flash or Deathstroke, there are half a dozen “one and done” villains with barely any nuance or motivation to speak of. “Star City Slayer” is a welcome reminder that this doesn’t always have to be the case. The series paid off on a loose end from earlier in Season 7 and used it to fuel a memorably scary outing for Team Arrow.
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So much of that boils down to the strength of Brendan Fletcher’s performance. Fletcher was perfectly enjoyable as Ollie’s dorky sidekick earlier in the season. But here he really got the chance to stretch his muscles and play a deranged killer barely holding it together. That final confrontation between Stanley and the Queen family easily ranks among the best sequences in Season 7 so far. Fletcher was equal parts repulsive, terrifying, and deeply pathetic. This episode did a great job of building up the tension in that scene despite the fact that we all knew Stanley wouldn’t be claiming another victim.
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This feels like the right move. As entertaining as Curtis can be, he hasn’t really had much of a place on the show this season, beyond his status as Diggle’s go-to gadget guy. The cast needs to be streamlined (now more than ever, what with the addition of Emiko), and it’s nice to see the writers acknowledging as much. And honestly, you can’t argue with the notion of a guy like Curtis wanting to do more with his incredible intellect.
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As for those flash-forwards, I don’t even know what to think anymore. The writers seem to be in full “throw everything at the wall and see what sticks” mode at this point. First Felicity is dead. Then it turns out she’s not dead. Says who? Why, the daughter we never knew she had, Mia Smoak (not Queen?), of course. The more characters get tossed into this mix, the more obvious it becomes that the flash-forward storyline was a whole lot more exciting back when it was just following William and Roy. If this truly is a story meant to play out for the remainder of this series’ lifespan, it would be a good idea to slow down and adopt a less soap operatic approach.

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Arrow, ‘Star City Slasher’: The Status Quo Goes out the Window in a Hurry
BY CRAIG WACK · FEBRUARY 12, 2019
http://oohlo.com/2019/02/12/arrow-star-city-slasher-the-status-quo-goes-out-the-window-in-a-hurry/

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If episode 150 of Arrow was all about previous season nostalgia, then 151 was dedicated to burning most of that to the ground. There wasn’t a singular series-altering moment in this episode, but there were enough small events to change the face of the show as we know it. Here’s everything you need to know about the latest episode of Arrow:
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Sex and the Olicity: William’s troubles have interrupted the onscreen sexy times, but Olicity had to be getting busy some other time because after getting checked out by the doctor after getting drugged by the Slasher, Felicity finds out she’s preggers. Also, for reasons we find out a little later, Curtis transfers over his ownership of Helix to her, which puts her on her path to the future.

On the island of the future: Hey, speaking of the future … Roy takes a tranq dart to the neck, just like old times. This was without a doubt, my favorite part of the episode. In early seasons of the show, Roy would do some fancy parkour moves only to end up getting tranqed by somebody. It happened All. The. Time. So, its callback this week was glorious. The gang goes back to the old Arrow Lair where they are ambushed by Connor Hawke, son of John Diggle, and Blackstar, whose real name is Mia Smoak -– yes the progeny of Olicity, and half-sister to William. Oh and not for nothing, Felicity is alive, which I believed I totally called months ago.
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Last impressions: I’ll be honest here, after getting my first Roy-tranqed moment in probably four years, the rest of the episode could have been Stephen Amell sitting in a chair making fart sounds with his armpit, and I would have been happy with this episode. Fortunately, a different choice was made. Now if I wanted to pick nits, I could grumble about packing all the revelations into the last act of the episode, after doing a whole lot of nothing since coming back from the midseason break. On the other hand, Arrow has been doing these mini-midseason cliffhangers over the last few years now, so it shouldn’t be completely unexpected. In the end, this episode was tense, well-paced and eventful –- everything you could hope for in a Monday night of TV.

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ARROW 7.13 Review “Star City Slayer”
By AMELIA EMBERWING Feb. 12, 2019
https://birthmoviesdeath.com/2019/02/12/arrow-7.13-review-star-city-slayer

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Ch… ch… ch… changes are underway in “Star City Slayer”. There are some big losses, counteracted with what could be a major gain for Oliver and Felicity, but only if it’s tackled correctly. All of that’s wrapped up in a fun and quick little slasher episode that serves as a re-entry point for Ollie’s Slabside buddy, Stanley.
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Mothers can be the strongest, most badass creatures on the planet. With that said, I have some serious concerns about this particular direction for Felicity’s character. Arrow’s struggled with what to do with its super hacker in the past, and she has some complicated feelings about motherhood. If handled right, it could be an incredible arc. The thing is, bringing babies into a show very rarely goes great. I was proven wrong with William (though he wasn’t a baby upon introduction). Here’s hoping we all get pleasantly surprised with this Mia arc.

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Arrow Episode Guide: Season 7, Episode 13 - Star City Slayer
Starman   Feb. 11, 2019
http://www.mygeekygeekyways.com/2019/02/arrow-episode-guide-season-7-episode-13.html

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Any drama to the Star City Slayer targeting Dinah is nullified by the fact that we know Dinah is alive 20 years in the future.

The Claytons say they should have filed for custody of William years ago. One wonders, in retrospect, why they didn't. As they say, Oliver is a convicted felon and that he is a professional superhero who was absent for most of William's life. Even though Samantha's dying wish was that Oliver take care of their son, there's no way to prove that in court and everything Samantha had done before then was aimed at limiting Oliver's influence on William. Throw in the multiple kidnappings and yeah - there's no way any judge in Star City would think twice about getting William out of Oliver's home.

Curtis' T-Sphere is much less conspicuous and likely to attract attention than the giant Maglite that Diggle is carrying when he tells Curtis not to use his T-Sphere.
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Stanley Dover's miraculous drug completely paralyzes a person's muscles... except for the ones needed to talk.

Felicity says that it gets really cold in Central City in the winter. Given that Star City is based in the Arrowverse where Seattle should be, it should be pretty cold there in the winter too.
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The production team did a good job establishing a creepy mood with the Star City Slayer house. The lighting, music and set decoration are all fantastic, though the creepy stuffed monkey and music box were a bit much.

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Arrow Just Delivered A Huge Felicity Bombshell That Changes Everything
BY LAURA HURLEY  FEBRUARY 11, 2019
https://www.cinemablend.com/television/2466794/arrow-just-delivered-a-huge-felicity-bombshell-that-changes-everything

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For one thing, the present pregnancy likely means that Felicity is benched and behind her computers for the indefinite future. She's never been the character most likely to suit up and hit the streets to fight crime, but she hasn't been afraid to rush into danger whenever necessary to help save the day.

Felicity is too responsible to make reckless decisions with herself if she has a bun in the oven. She's certainly been showing off some strong maternal instincts after she started helping to raise William. The good news is that Felicity is the one member of Team Arrow whose contributions to fighting the good fight won't be inhibited by being benched for safety's sake.

The bad news for TV fans who don't love babies on non-baby-friendly shows is that... well, a baby is definitely on the way, if Mia kicking ass in the flash-forwards is any indication. Felicity being pregnant in February means that she'll still be pregnant when Season 8 rolls around, if Arrow follows its usual time jump following Season 7. Can Arrow really pull off such a monumental task?
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Given that there's really no question of the father of Felicity's child being anybody other than Oliver, fans can put their minds to bigger questions posed by Felicity's pregnancy. Did William not know that Mia existed? He never mentioned her when talking about Felicity being dead, and he certainly didn't recognize Blackstar when he met her.

If he didn't know that Mia existed, why not? "Star City Slayer" saw him choose to go live with his grandparents in Central City, and we know that William doesn't have the loving relationship with Oliver and Felicity in the future that he did prior to Oliver going to Slabside, but surely somebody would have told him that he had a baby sister on the way. Central City isn't that far away, and Oliver and Felicity clearly intended to stay in his life even as he moved away.

Does Felicity go into hiding for the duration of her pregnancy? It would be difficult to blame her if she went to extremes to stay safe while expecting. No matter where she and Oliver live, their home always seems to be broken into. In this episode alone, their family dinner of chili was interrupted by Oliver's psychotic former cellmate, who drugged them all and ranted at them in a speech that probably would have ended in their murders if the drug hadn't worn off enough for Oliver to clobber Stanley in the head with a bottle.

Or does William know about his sister, but had no relationship with her and therefore didn't spare a thought for her after learning that Felicity was dead? If he didn't know her, he wouldn't recognize her.

What happened to the Queen family that tore them apart? Why does Mia go by "Mia Smoak" rather than "Mia Queen" in the flash-forwards? Was she raised without Oliver in her life, or did something drive her to actively choose to go with her mother's surname? ...

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Arrow recap: 'Star City Slayer' features a big Blackstar reveal and some goodbyes
CHANCELLOR AGARD   February 12, 2019 at 11:40 AM EST
https://ew.com/recap/arrow-season-7-episode-13/

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At the beginning of Arrow season 7, showrunner Beth Schwartz promised that the season would feature many big reveals. To her credit, she has delivered on that promise. In the first half of the season, we got the surprising flash-forwards, Talia al Ghul’s return in “The Demon,” and the introduction of Emiko Queen as the New Green Arrow. The one thing all of these twists had in common is how obvious they should’ve been from the beginning; whether or not that’s a positive or negative is up to you. Personally, I like the fact that the show didn’t try to be too clever. And it shouldn’t come as a surprise that the twist that ends last night’s episode “Star City Slayer” definitely falls into that “wow, should’ve seen that coming.”
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Last night’s flash-forwards pick up with Dinah, Zoe (a.k.a. “pampered girl from the Glades playing vigilante dress up”), Roy, and William heading to the old bunker to see if that’s where Felicity hid her bombs since they haven’t had any luck with the Archer system. Instead of finding the bombs, though, they find Mia and Connor, who knock them out and tie them up. In the ensuing interrogation, Mia shares that she’s actually trying to find Felicity, who still alive, and stop whoever is trying to pull a sequel to 2013’s Undertaking (2 Under 2 Taking? The Undertaking: The Glades Strike Back?), and she learns that William is Felicity’s son. I’m not sure if this is a choice or not, but McNamara’s tough exterior wasn’t completely convincing.
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As I mentioned before, we should’ve seen this coming. I mean, the character’s name is Mia. In the comics, one of Green Arrow’s Speedy sidekicks was named Mia Dearden, so it makes complete sense that if the show was going to introduce a character with that name that she would have some major ties to Oliver. But the problem here is that the show just pulled the “secret family card” with Emiko a few episodes ago, and we’ve barely begun to scratch the surface of what Emiko’s arrival in the present day storyline means for both Oliver and the show itself. Throwing another new major, status quo shifting character like Oliver and Felicity’s daughter into the mix feels like a lot. But, hey, I’m willing to approach this story with an open mind and to reserve judgement until it all plays out.
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The Queen family time, however, gets interrupted when Stanley breaks into the apartment and drugs them using his paralyzing agent. From there, Brendan Fletcher proceeds to give a gloriously demented, scary, and unhinged performance as he explains that he’s been targeting both Oliver’s foes and victims to show that he’s the only one who understands Oliver. In some ways, Stanley feels like a great stand-in for toxic and bad fans, especially in the moment he realizes that Oliver is about to reject him. Thankfully, Stanley monologues long enough for the drug to wear off, which allows William and Oliver to take him out with a glass bottle.

... Reader, I’ll admit, I was moved during his tearful goodbye with Felicity since, in case you forgot, Echo Kellum’s first scene on the show was with Emily Bett Rickards. Before leaving, though, Curtis hands Helix over to Felicity, therefore setting up Smoak Technologies in the future.
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I will say that part of me is wondering if the introduction of Felicity and Oliver’s daughter as a very skilled fighter has something to do with the overall future of the Arrowverse. At the TCA press tour, CW President Mark Pedowitz talked about how they’ve started thinking about the next generation of DC superhero shows, which makes sense since Arrow, which was just renewed for an eighth season, is getting old. And with so many potential young heroes running around Arrow — Zoe Ramirez, Emiko Queen, William, and now Mia — could it be possible that the powers that be are at least considering using these characters from the future storyline to launch the aforementioned next generation of shows. Like, McNamara has a bankable fanbase from Shadowhunters, so it would be surprising if CW wasn’t at least trying to milk that for all it’s worth.

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Arrow Review: Star City Slayer (Season 7 Episode 13)
February 12, 2019 Brianna Martinez
https://www.telltaletv.com/2019/02/arrow-review-star-city-slayer-season-7-episode-13/

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In probably the best episode this side of the winter hiatus, Arrow Season 7 Episode 13, “Star City Slayer,” manages to fill the hour with a compelling story of the week, the villain I’ve been waiting for, and plenty of Queen-Smoak family angst, with a massive reveal by the end to really top the hour.

“Star City Slayer” manages to merge the horror, the action, and the family drama thoroughly well without clunkily switching between the modes, instead opting to thread and go between all of them smoothly, at times opting to mix them up like in the Queen-Smoak family loft scene.
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Brandon Fletcher played the disturbed serial killer so eerily good that it makes me hope he’s not just a one-off return villain. That one terrifying and paralyzing Queen-Smoak family scene leaves a lasting impact and calls back to the hints of unhinged thinking when he had Oliver captive during the riot.

While Stan’s tortured and twisted villainous arc added a lot to the hour in terms of bringing in the team and setting things in motion for a few characters, the Queen-Smoak family angst added to the emotional aspect of the episode, providing a heartbreaking development and a shockingly happy one in the span of one act.
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The Queen-Smoak family was a highlight and kept things interesting on Arrow season 6, truly becoming a family over the season, and to see them get to this point is just upsetting, even if some of it makes sense.

It’s because of how far they’ve come and how much I’ve truly enjoyed this dynamic that Oliver and Felicity’s final scene with William wrecks me.
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They don’t know each other and don’t know each other existed until this moment. What happened to our Queen-Smoak family to have them fall this far in the future? Why is she a Smoak and not a Queen? Where is Oliver?!
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Oliver’s famous chili makes its debut and seems to be a hit with his wife, and it’s equal parts funny and adorable in its own way given the context of the scene.

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‘ARROW’ 7×13 REVIEW: HOLY SMOAKS! 
ALYSSA BARBIERI  FEBRUARY 12, 2019
http://fangirlish.com/arrow-7x13-review-holy-smoaks/

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But then sometimes, there are episodes like “Star City Slayer” that remind me that this show used to be good; that this show can be good; that this show should be good. From putting the core of the show as the central focus to having a legitimate villain that is actually scary (nothing like Diaz) to beautifully weaving the present and flash-forwards into something compelling with an amazing yet expected bombshell.

It would figure that Arrow would deliver one of the best episodes of this season prior to a three-week hiatus. Because while in recent memory I haven’t looked forward to Arrow, now I actually need to see what happens next. Figures.
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So I don’t think there’s anyone in the Olicity fandom that didn’t call the whole “Mia is Olicity’s daughter” thing. And while it took forever for this show to reveal it — they saved it for one of their better episodes this season — it was so incredibly satisfying to hear confirmation. Mia is so Oliver and Felicity’s daughter. She’s got the brute strength and toughness from her dad and the wit and smarts from her mom. And it’s such a kick-ass combination.
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But something else I would appreciate in the next episode is getting a scene where Felicity tells Oliver that she’s pregnant. Don’t deprive us of that moment and just have everyone “know” that Felicity is pregnant. We deserve these family moments. But I won’t get my hopes up.
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Anyone that ever thought these writers would kill off Felicity are just moronic. Felicity has and will always be a fan favorite that’s pretty much untouchable at this point. Not to mention our girl is too smart to be killed by one of Rene’s goonies. I bet Felicity used death as a way to escape. Hopefully she’s chilling with Oliver, who’s also so not dead, in Ivy Town. Actually more believable is that Oliver and Felicity are together (hopefully with Diggle) and plotting how to take these bombs down.
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Stanley, Oliver’s psychotic Slabside “friend” was more terrifying in less than 10 minutes than Ricardo Diaz has ever been. HE WAS THE VILLAIN WE DESERVED. HE WAS THE VILLAIN THAT ACTUALLY WAS TERRIFYING. HE WAS A VILLAIN THAT WAS BELIEVABLY A THREAT. What a damn shame we only got him for this episode. But it was a reminder that this show is capable of creating compelling villains and casting correctly.

Stanley’s obsession with Oliver in Slabside was something that you could just feel was setting up for something more. No one thought anything of Stanley, but those are often the most dangerous of criminals. And his return was glorious. Especially when he went after NTA. I’m just saying, that was satisfying. He was basically us until he went to Oliver and Felicity’s.
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“This started with the three of us.”

What an iconic line by Oliver Queen back in season 2 that cemented the significance of OTA and Oliver, Felicity, and Diggle to this show and this mission. They are the gold standard of all superhero teams. And I cannot tell you how much I yearn for moments like seasons 1 and 2 when it was just the three of them.

But guess what, looks like Arrow is setting up for the next generation of OTA. Not only do we have Oliver and Felicity’s children in William and Mia, we also have Diggle’s son, Connor Hawke. And I’ll be damned if they don’t look like the next reincarnation of one of the best superhero teams. I wasn’t a big fan of an idea of a spinoff with the flashforward peeps, but I would so watch a show where Mia, William, and Connor are Team Arrow. I’d watch the hell out of it.

This started with Oliver, Felicity, and Diggle. But perhaps it will continue with Mia, William, and Connor.
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If there is one character in the Arrowverse that deserves a happy ending after everything, it’s Oliver Queen. Hell, he earned that after the first two seasons. So, of course, this future glimpse shows us that, presumably, Oliver doesn’t get the happy ending he deserves. Oliver deserves to retire as a hero and live a happy life with his wife Felicity and their daughter, Mia, and son, William. Oliver and Felicity both deserve that. And I swear to God if these writers don’t find a way to give them a happy ending at the end of all of this…

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First, Felicity is alive which DUH. 
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This reveal felt fairly perfunctory and it tells me the Arrow writers didn’t really expect us to believe Felicity was truly dead because, as I always say, they ain’t that crazy. You do not throw out the lightning in the bottle. You keep the lightning in the damn bottle for as long as you possibly can until she starts screaming to get out and you are absolutely forced to let her go otherwise you’ll be charged with kidnapping.
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Mia tells William Felicity is alive. It’s unclear if Mia knows because she has actual proof or if this is more a gut feeling type of thing. Either way it’s significant. Felicity’s circle of trust is pretty limited in the future. If she trusts Mia then she is incredibly important to Felicity. The only other person Felicity has reached out to for help was William, her son, and she sent him to get Roy, the brother-in-law (I’m just calling it like I see it).  QUEEN FAMILY REUNION!!!!

This whole “Felicity is evil” angle is total crap too. Toss that nonsense out the window.
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I think Felicity, Mia and JJ are trying to stop the destruction of Star City by infiltrating the Glade because Rene’s Chief of Staff is evil. Even if I’m wrong about plot points I am not wrong about Felicity being one of the good guys.
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Oliver made his famous chili tonight, which is something the comic canon nuts have been after for years. But Arrow is going to put their spin on it. The comic canon folks will get their chili, but Oliver is making it for Felicity and William (and not LL like they want and ridiculously still believe they’ll get). It was two spicy for William, but Felicity was having seconds because SHE IS INCUBATING THEIR LOVE CHILD!!!!
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Is it awful William and Mia don’t know each other? Of course it is. My heart is broken Oliver and Felicity didn’t get to live an idyllic life, raising their babies in peace, and the city is still a hot mess 20 years in the future. I wouldn’t have picked it as a storyline, but if I was writing this show then Olicity would’ve been married in Season 3 and we’d be on our second set of triplets by now.  

I don’t know how the family became splintered, but I am dying to find out. I want to see Felicity reunited with both her son and daughter. I want to know what the hell happened to Oliver. I absolutely want to see William and Mia’s relationship as brother and sister develop. It reminds me of the Season 1 between Oliver and Thea or more accurately Oliver and Emiko now. If everything is a mess in the future then at the very least I want to see the Queen family fighting to make it better. SIGN ME THE HELL UP!!!!!!
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“Star City Slayer’ felt like the birth of new OTA (William, Mia and JJ). Did you notice how JJ came running in as Mia interrogated William and Dinah, all protective and concerned for her? My ship is setting sail!
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Kat McNamara said in her TVLine interview, “Beth has said they’re trying to combine the best qualities of Oliver and Felicity — his physical strength and her intellectual strength. “ 
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The fans didn’t introduce the Olicity baby into the story. 
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The writers did and they did it for a very specific reason. 
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This has always been what Oliver is fighting for. Arrow is not just about saving Star City. It’s about saving Oliver Queen too. Felicity’s love and the family they will build together is his salvation. 
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There’s been a lot of discussion about the “mistakes” Oliver has made and what he needs to do to be a better leader. I’m drawing a blank whenever this topic comes up around the Newbies because they are all awful and Oliver should’ve let them rot in Slabside.
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Curtis decides to take the job in DC. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! The minute Curtis said it I went online to buy him 15 plane tickets – one for him and his 14 PhDs.
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I don’t know why Arrow continually compartmentalizes Felicity. It seems to me she could be deputized and work with Team Arrow as Overwatch while creating Smoak Tech. Maybe that will happen, but for now it seems only one activity at the time. But at least her storyline won’t be stripped and ransacked to serve Curtis Fucking Holt anymore. WE CONTINUE TO BE BLESSED FANDOM. ALL MY PRAISE TO JESUS AND BETH SCHWARTZ.
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Last, but certainly not least, “Star City Slayer” finally delivers a villain worth watching. Stan the Fan is back and is more creepy, diabolical and terrifying in one episode than Diaz was for a year and a half! 
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That’s how we do! It’s gonna be so great when all four members of the Queen family are reunited, kicking ass, taking names and saving the city together.

ETA: Okay, now I'm picturing Oliver, Felicity, William and Mia fighting together like The Incredibles.

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"Arrow" Revealed Some Major Olicity News And I'm Going To Be Honest, I'm Emotional
Nora Dominick   February 13, 2019
https://www.buzzfeed.com/noradominick/arrow-revealed-some-major-olicity-news-katherine-mcnamara

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This all led to a big reveal where Blackstar, played by Katherine McNamara, told William that she is actually Mia Smoak, Felicity's daughter.
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And just like me, people are FREAKING OUT over the news.
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Now, there's a few things I need to break down after this reveal because this is literally all I've been thinking about for two days:

1. Mia specifically says her last name is Smoak not Queen, which makes me incredibly nervous about her relationship with Oliver.
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This also has me thinking about the next Arrowverse crossover. In "Crisis on Infinite Earths" the Monitor will return and undoubtably cash in on the favor Oliver owes him. Could Oliver have disappeared or be dead in the future?
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2. With William going to live with his grandparents in present day and the fact that he doesn't recognize Mia, I'm wondering what the heck happened to Oliver, Felicity, and William's relationship.
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3. And finally, now that we know Blackstar's name is Mia, it's possible that she can eventually take the place of Mia Dearden from the comic books.
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In the comics, Mia Dearden is the second character to take up the Speedy mantle and become Green Arrow's sidekick.
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Also, just a quick side note, I'm wondering why Arrow, Legends of Tomorrow, and The Flash have all explored events that are going to happen in the 2040s this season. It can't be a coincidence.
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The future Arrow timeline takes place in 2040, Zari is captured in 2042 before she joins The Legends, and Nora West-Allen keep traveling back to 2049.
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So, if you need me, I'll be watching the end of this episode on repeat and eagerly awaiting Arrow's return on March 4.

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Arrow Season 7 Episode 13 Review: “Star City Slayer”
Chris King   February 14, 2019
https://www.tvovermind.com/arrow-season-7-episode-13-review-star-city-slayer/

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After the frustrations I felt during Arrow‘s 150th episode last week, I needed an hour like “Star City Slayer” to remind why I love this show, even when it’s at its most maddening. Unlike Diggle’s proclamation that everyone had each other’s backs, this week’s emotional payoffs actually feel earned....

And what is this story exactly? I don’t know why I’m writing around it so much. If you watched the episode, you know the major reveal: Blackstar’s true identity is Mia Smoak, and she is the daughter of Felicity Smoak and Oliver Queen. Again, as I mentioned above, this reveal is something that many fans have speculated about and accurately predicted for months, but that doesn’t stop it from being great, not only because of what it sets up for Oliver and Felicity in the present (How will the two of them deal with Felicity’s pregnancy after having just sent their son away to live a normal, safe life?) but because it injects the flash-forwards with a new sense of urgency that they desperately needed. No longer is this future storyline simply about an “abandoned” William halfheartedly trying to figure out what new disaster is coming for Star City; instead, it’s about two Queen siblings who have never met, who apparently didn’t even know the other existed, working together to not just save the city but create a stronger between themselves as well and, hopefully, find their parents in the process. If that sounds a lot like Oliver and Emiko’s storyline in the present day, you’re not wrong, and I don’t think it’s an accident.
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It was important for both Oliver and Felicity to spend this time with William because, in its later seasons, Arrow has shifted from a show about Oliver Queen’s journey to a series about his legacy. The question is no longer about whether or not he’ll save Star City or how he’ll take down the latest season’s big bad (although let’s get one thing straight: Stan is more intimidating in one episode than Diaz has ever been). Arrow is now about what Oliver will leave behind when he hangs up the hood and bow and arrow for good, what he’ll have left when his identity transforms from the Green Arrow to simply that of husband and father. Oliver Queen will never stop being a hero, even when his days fighting for Star City are done, and from what we’ve seen throughout the flash-forwards as of right now, his children will never stop trying to be heroes either, even when everything else is telling them to run away and do the opposite. That’s what Oliver Queen’s legacy is: the heroic spirit of both William and Mia.

And that’s not something they inherited through blood—it’s something they learned from the example of his and Felicity’s actions. Whether they were in the same home, same city, hell, same world as their parents, both William and Mia know what Oliver and Felicity have done to protect Star City and all the people they care about most. The two of them emulate that, whether it’s fighting with a knife or hacking into a building, and by doing so, they guarantee that, no matter what Oliver and Felicity’s fates in the future are, their parents live forever. That’s one hell of a legacy, isn’t it?
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I also want to comment on some of the negative reactions I have seen to Felicity’s pregnancy from members of the Arrow fandom, including some people who call themselves Felicity Smoak fans. If you don’t like pregnancy or baby storylines on TV shows, that’s one thing, but to refer to Felicity as nothing more than an “incubator,” as simply  a tool or mechanism from which Mia springs, is insulting to Felicity’s character and, more importantly, to all real-life mothers. Pregnancy will be a part of Felicity’s story moving forward in Season 7, but did everyone forget that she also regained full control of her company in this week’s episode and that she still serves as Overwatch on Team Arrow? Being a mother will not be Felicity’s sole character distinction just like being a father hasn’t been Oliver’s only character trait these past couple of years. These characters are more complicated and dynamic than that, and if you don’t believe that, I think we’ve been watching two very different shows over the past seven years.

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I'm not sure how I feel about naming a baby "Arrow"...

12 Valentine's Day-Themed Names For February Babies
By Clare Green   02/14/2019 
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/valentines-day-baby-names_l_5c65cc71e4b0233af97311ca

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Arrow
This is a name to please both romantics and comic book fans (and romantic comic book fans). Arrow is undeniably a weapon name, but in the sense of Cupid’s arrows of love, it feels less militaristic and more symbolic. The link to the superhero Green Arrow gives it extra cool points, as does the “o”-sound ending. Archer has shot up the charts in the last decade, and its cousin Arrow shows signs of following.

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2 hours ago, tv echo said:

I also want to comment on some of the negative reactions I have seen to Felicity’s pregnancy from members of the Arrow fandom, including some people who call themselves Felicity Smoak fans.

I'm glad someone addressed this.  

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2 hours ago, tv echo said:

Pregnancy will be a part of Felicity’s story moving forward in Season 7, but did everyone forget that she also regained full control of her company in this week’s episode and that she still serves as Overwatch on Team Arrow?

The only reason I feel even remotely confident about them doing something about this now is because they've already showed that it happens. And I really do hope she returns fully to being Overwatch once the lair is rebuilt. While I'm glad that the show has made an effort to keep her involved during its Law & Order phase, I'd much rather her be in the thick of things with everyone else.

2 hours ago, tv echo said:

If you don’t like pregnancy or baby storylines on TV shows, that’s one thing, but to refer to Felicity as nothing more than an “incubator,”

How gross and utterly unsurprising.

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Curtis leaving is a terrific (😜) sign for Overwatch as well. 

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16 minutes ago, BkWurm1 said:

I'm glad someone addressed this.  

At that it was from a legitimate and big name reviewer to. In regards to his comments about Felicity Smoak fans, they are also the same  people who have claimed to have quit the show. So I'm not sure why they even care what happens to Olicity or Felicity on the show now? 

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1 hour ago, Mary0360 said:

At that it was from a legitimate and big name reviewer to. In regards to his comments about Felicity Smoak fans, they are also the same  people who have claimed to have quit the show. So I'm not sure why they even care what happens to Olicity or Felicity on the show now? 

One of the people he called out is on Twitter gloating about having been mentioned in the review and doubling down on being disgusting. I'm pissed that it was even RTed into my TL. She clearly is just seeking attention at this point, and no one should give it to her.

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14 minutes ago, KenyaJ said:

 She clearly is just seeking attention at this point, and no one should give it to her.

Agreed. I mean these people supposedly quit the show back before season 5 started because they were convinced Oliver and Dinah would be the new endgame couple, so them coming out of the woodworks now when something good happens for Olicity is just them trying to nastily rain on people's parades and get a reaction and attention they don't deserve.

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Did Flash Set Absenteeism Record? Are Whisperers Scarier Than Walkers? Truly Contrived Detective Work? And More Qs
By Vlada Gelman, Matt Webb Mitovich, Kimberly Roots, Ryan Schwartz, Dave Nemetz and Charlie Mason / February 15 2019, 9:58 AM PST
https://tvline.com/2019/02/15/flash-5x14-barry-absent-almost-whole-episode-tv-questions/  

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8 | On Arrow, how were the Star City Slayer’s typewritten notes ending up with such big letters? Was he stopping by Kinko’s? Also, Oliver and Felicity are now fated to have a strained relationship with not one, but two kids? Are these flash forwards just getting more and more depressing?

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EW's Kyle and Chance talked about 713 (among other things)...

Entertainment Weekly - Superhero Insider: The Flash, Arrow, Doom Patrol, The Umbrella Academy
Kyle Anderson and Chancellor Agard  February 15, 2019

-- Arrow (713): They first discussed Curtis' exit from the show and referenced the EW interview with EK. It was EK's decision to leave. Curtis' exit has been in the works for awhile. Chance doesn't think that the show will replace Curtis with a new character, but that Felicity will probably go back to doing what she was doing before for the team. Kyle noted that the cast is still pretty big.

-- Chance said that Mia's last name is Smoak and not Queen probably because the name "Queen" in Star City paints a big target on your back.

-- Chance was a little exasperated that another new Queen character (Mia) was introduced right after a new Queen character (Emiko) was just introduced. He thought that the two characters should've been spread out over the season; however, he noted that it could be an example of history repeating itself - just like with the Undertaking 2.0. Kyle understood that the show was doing parallel storytelling, but felt that there should be some connection at some point.

-- Chance doesn't seem to like the flashforwards.

-- Kyle suggested that after Crisis on Infinite Earths, the entire show will shift to the future timeline with the new cast, which would allow SA to exit the show as a regular cast member. Chance thought that casting Katherine McNamara, who has a big fan following from Shadowhunters, showed that the producers were considering maybe a spinoff set in the future and were testing all these new characters this season on Arrow.

-- Kyle didn't think it was a coincidence that Arrow and Flash were both dealing with future children this season.

-- Arrow's 150th episode (712): Chance said that he liked the episode when he first watched it because they brought the team back, but then he read A.V. Club's negative review and thought that review made a lot of great points, like, how the documentary gimmick revealed a lot of flaws. For example, the characters didn't act any different when filmed by the documentary crew than when they weren't being filmed. Also, we got no idea of the documentary filmmaker's viewpoint. Kyle agreed that he got a "thrill" out of seeing Team Arrow together again and he loved the action sequences. However, he also agreed with its flaws. Chance pointed out that, unless you knew Barry Allen was The Flash, why would the documentary film crew interview him of all people? Also, how did the documentary crew find Sara Lance when she's traveling through time?

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