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16 minutes ago, Mothra said:

Thanks for posting this.  I may have missed something, but it seems to me there's no interest charged on these loans?  I agree--this is a great deal, esp. if the loans are interest-free.

I had what was called a "war" loan when I was in college.  I could borrow $200/year (not much today, but then my tuition was around $2000/year) and pay nothing back as long as I taught school.  After six years of teaching, my loan was totally forgiven.

You're right--something's going on here.

There’s interest, the website covers that area.

https://thecollegeinvestor.com/13871/student-loans-different-uk-vs-us/

Jon is trying to pull a fast one on Rachel.

Loans are forgiven after 30 yrs or if you become disabled. 

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Could Jon's $50,000 debt actually be fines or penalties for the fights that got him expelled? Or punitive damages to his victim? He's calling it college debt because technically he was in university when it happened?

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1 minute ago, RedBagWithMakeup said:

Could Jon's $50,000 debt actually  penalties for the fights that got him expelled? Or punitive damages to his victim? He's calling it college debt because technically he was in university when it happened?

  He’s lying about the amount taken from his check if they are student loans, no way does the UK take 50 %. So maybe it is his restitution, but 50% still sounds awfully high. 

Hes lying about something big, one reason he’s so content to have a long distance marriage, he can basically tell her anything and she can’t verify it.

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It was so ridiculous when Darcey said she couldn't return to Connecticut because it was too late.  It was still daylight out.  I live about the same distance from NYC as she does (I'm in New Jersey), and if I had just been dumped, I would have been on the next train out as soon as possible.  They runs trains out of the city to NJ and Connecticut all the time because of the number of commuters.  She was hoping they would make up again.  She is delusional.

Also, I don't understand the hate-breakup sex things.  My husband and I aren't intimate when we are mad at each other, and I don't understand the appeal of angry sex at all.

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47 minutes ago, Kellyee said:

And Darcy is somebody's MOTHER. I was about the same age as Darcy's daughters when my mother had freakin' CANCER, and I never had to witness anything so dramatic as Darcy's breakup with some dude she barely knows. The daughters are going to see this shit. So are all their friends. 

My 11 year old (who loves drama...) watched about 5 minutes of Darcey last night and was mortified by her. "She's embarrassing", was her remark. I figured the high drama would hold her attention but she couldn't handle it and left the room.

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Regarding the possibility that Darcey's hotel room door was unlocked and Jesse came in . . . I've traveled quite a bit and stayed everywhere from Hotel 6 on up to some nice places.  Except one older place in Idaho that still gave me a real key to open my room door, I don't think I've ever stayed at a place where the door didn't automatically lock when it was closed.  It's a safety feature to ensure that strangers don't go walking into rooms - occupied or unoccupied.  Jesse either had a key from when he originally got the room, or Darcey got up out of her chair or from being curled up on the floor and let him in.  Or someone had propped it open with that little extra security lock at the top of many doors.

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9 hours ago, Rt66vintage said:

 

Why would Michael rip her off before he gets to America? Maybe the ATM machine was outfitted with some sort of illegal card reader, and someone came in behind Michael who was able to withdraw money? The whole storyline is freakin' wild!

That’s my question. He stands to gain way more by being on her good side. He could have come here, played lovey-dovey for two years, and left. In the grand scheme of things, that’s not that long. As happy as he was when she proposed, I couldn’t see him sabotaging everything in this manner.

Also, ATM scams are pretty huge. There are tips online about how to check ATMs to see if they are rigged. I don’t even use them anymore unless absolutely necessary.

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20 hours ago, Toaster Strudel said:

Talking Glazed Ham Ricky - He is such an unctuous, slimy wad. 

If Ricky is a glazed ham, what is Tarik? I can't stand his "look."

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5 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Also, Jesse was smoking?  

Yes and he had new suitcases which I am sure she bought him

I hope this is the end of them! Go home Jesse!!

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18 hours ago, magemaud said:
18 hours ago, tanyaintheburbs said:

10-1 he “loses” his ring after Rachael head back to the States.

Right down the garbage disposal!

I don't get this fixation with rings. I know men who don't wear one (my Dad didn't), and a few women who don't either. If it's uncomfortable -- or puts you at risk (jobs like labor, performing musiicans, fine digital dexterity) -- what's the biggie? If you don't feel committed to each other to that degree, might be worth rethinking the union.

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Did John ever say why he quit his job? It wouldn’t surprise me if he had a habit of quitting jobs if he is upset by something. 

Did Tarik and Hazel seal the deal? That was my assumption. 

I am sick of the bullshit between Darcey and Jesse. Just break up for good FFS. But these two losers can’t get each other or the camera. 

Does Pole actually work in the US? Karene looks good with short hair 

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58 minutes ago, lucy711 said:

Also, I don't understand the hate-breakup sex things.  My husband and I aren't intimate when we are mad at each other, and I don't understand the appeal of angry sex at all.

You are not a desparate idiot that thrives on drama like Darcy.

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Just now, Happyfatchick said:

I don’t have a cute glazed ham name for Tarik, but as I watched him walk away from hazel to return to the US, I declared him to be the worse dresser EVER.   

Also @Honey, I’ve thought the same thing the 11-tee-billion Darcy has spewed something about unconditional love.  She has not the vaguest idea that (except for my love for my children), Love.Is.Conditional.  Love is always conditional.  Otherwise, we’d be attracted to and trying to attach ourselves to every opposite we ever met.  Even Darcy talks conditional love, and always has.  Soon as the TH’s switch to her, she’s got that pouty mouth lip shrug thing and “either he comes with a proposal or I’m walking away”.   The love of my life.  Pfffft.

Disclaimer:  I don’t personally think Darcy and Jesse have “love” at all.  It’s a messy psycho free for all not related to love in the least.   I’m also going to add - just for kicks - that Rachel’s conditional bar is a little lower than some...

OH!!!  I mean to ask.  In the previews for next week, Jon took a drink from a mug that said in all caps “HUSBAND   FATHER    KING”.  Or maybe “Daddy” in the middle.  Did anyone else catch that?   (Cuz...I’m wondering if she’s pg...)

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7 hours ago, Thisgirllovespasta said:

I agree with everyone about Paul and Karine's apartment. I don't get all the hoard.

It looks like they are doing an eBay/Etsy type business and/or selling to exporters. The dog crates must be left over from when Pole was training K-9s.

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5 hours ago, Happyfatchick said:

I declared him to be the worse dresser EVER.   

I was thinking the same thing.  The one shirt he wears woih sleeves and he’s dressed like Mr. Ernst from Hey Dude.  And who the hell wears a nougat-colored  shirt ?with khaki chinos. He looks like his mom made him take off his school uniform shirt to play outside, and he grabbed the first thing in the closet.  

For those of you who dis not grow up on Nickelodeon in its hwydey, I present Mr. Benjamin Ernst. 

 

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I'm thinking Hazel, her parents, her cousin & baby daddy are all living it up in the fancy new apartment that Tarik just threw down for! 

Were her parents really going to let her be homeless?

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7 minutes ago, MrFluffy said:

I don't get this fixation with rings. I know men who don't wear one (my Dad didn't), and a few women who don't either. If it's uncomfortable -- or puts you at risk (jobs like labor, performing musiicans, fine digital dexterity) -- what's the biggie? If you don't feel committed to each other to that degree, might be worth rethinking the union.

Remember, Rachel does not really understand people at all, she only sees the fantasy of how things are supposed to see and in her fantasy she sees the man wearing a ring.  If Jon was smart he should have just bought it and worn it for the wedding and after Rachel went back home he could put in a drawer and wear it when they skype. 

It's funny that Rachel thinks a ring will stop someone from cheating, just too funny.

I did notice that she got married in that dress she tried on in Santa Fe (which she said it was too expensive).

Jon quit his job, yikes.  How will they ever get enough money together to pay for the visa and lawyers fees?  Nobody seems to think further down the road.

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2 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I did notice that she got married in that dress she tried on in Santa Fe (which she said it was too expensive).

I wasn't paying close attention, but that dress had sleeves. Maybe it's the same one but she tried it on with a bolero jacket shrug thing? And this is a stupid question, but how are foreign marriages regarded in the US legal system?

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9 minutes ago, arc918 said:

 

Were her parents really going to let her be homeless?

Remember when Tarik went meet the parents and they all had to sit on the bed. There was hardly any floor space and definitely no space for a chair or cot, or even a sleeping bag. The place where Hazel was staying, her space seemed to be a storage area under the stairs.

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Just now, Morgalisa said:

Remember when Tarik went meet the parents and they all had to sit on the bed. There was hardly any floor space and definitely no space for a chair or cot, or even a sleeping bag. The place where Hazel was staying, her space seemed to be a storage area under the stairs.

Oh I remember, their place was crazy small. But I'm guessing they would figure something out before they let her sleep on the street.

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11 hours ago, Neurochick said:

If you were her older daughter, would you want to be in this mess?  Jon told Rachel THE DAY BEFORE THEIR WEDDING that a) he quit his job and b) that he's in debt.  Rachel should have taken Lucy, turned around and left that loser.  But she didn't, because she's physically attracted to Jon and that's why she stays.

I think Rachel also feels it all went too far and it is too late to hightail it home with her tail between her legs. Sh waxed on about the wonderful Jon for a year and told anyone who would listen that their love is like a fairytale. She is too embarrassed to admit she may have made a mistake so chose to ignore the red flags and marry him.

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24 minutes ago, MrFluffy said:

I don't get this fixation with rings. I know men who don't wear one (my Dad didn't), and a few women who don't either. If it's uncomfortable -- or puts you at risk (jobs like labor, performing musiicans, fine digital dexterity) -- what's the biggie? If you don't feel committed to each other to that degree, might be worth rethinking the union.

IMO, the rings are ceremonial. I wouldn’t even want an engagement ring, the only jewelry I like is a watch and or a bracelet. Get two nice gold bands for the ceremony and symbolism and that’s it. Wear them or not after the wedding, who cares. 

I thought Jon’s stance on a ring was just another example of his argumentative personality. It was like he was trying to get under Rachel’s skin and also argue with the jeweler. IMO he is frustrated because he is trying to keep his normally combative personality in check but it’s coming out in these seemingly senseless arguments. Just buy ring, put  in on at the ceremony and after you drop Rachel at the airport take it off.

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6 minutes ago, MrFluffy said:

I wasn't paying close attention, but that dress had sleeves. Maybe it's the same one but she tried it on with a bolero jacket shrug thing? And this is a stupid question, but how are foreign marriages regarded in the US legal system?

Yes, she had a bolero on in the shop.

I am not sure why a marriage abroad would not be legal but I know if you want to get married on a Carribean island some of them are not recognized as binding in the states.  The question should be why, why are these people getting married, lol.

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31 minutes ago, MrFluffy said:

It looks like they are doing an eBay/Etsy type business and/or selling to exporters. The dog crates must be left over from when Pole was training K-9s.

Good lord, what on earth could they be selling that anyone would be buying?

I cannot even picture Karine lugging boxes of merchandise to the post office for shipping.

Why does their rental look like it is unfininshed?  

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10 hours ago, Neurochick said:

Tarik's line from his stupid rap, lifted from LL Cool J, "A brother wanna make you a round the way girl."

 

Hearing him utter RTWG literally made my shoulders haunch and my face cringed.  Any other song could have homaged those words in and you would have been like “aw that’s a cool call back” but hearing him for some reason made me think that he actually believed he came up with those words!!!  I don’t know why.  

Don’t you be disrespecting CoolJ Tarik you dumb talentless tone deaf karaoke muttering JBL can’t even afford beats pill nasally mr potatoheaded derp face MFing fool.

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7 minutes ago, iwasish said:

Wear them or not after the wedding, who cares. 

A lot of people care or the bridal/wedding jewelry industry wouldn't be as huge as it is. Potato, Potahto, YMMV.

In other news, if I never hear IN THE NAME OF LOVE opined ever Ever EVER E.V.E.R. again it'll be too soon. Eternal damnation is hearing INTHENAMEOFLOVE over and over and over and over and over and over for all eternity, in Duhrcey's whiny voice.

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6 minutes ago, HappyDancex2 said:

Hearing him utter RTWG literally made my shoulders haunch and my face cringed.  Any other song could have homaged those words in and you would have been like “aw that’s a cool call back” but hearing him for some reason made me think that he actually believed he came up with those words!!!  I don’t know why.  

Don’t you be disrespecting CoolJ Tarik you dumb talentless tone deaf karaoke muttering JBL can’t even afford beats pill nasally mr potatoheaded derp face MFing fool.

Hey man, don’t knock the JBL speaker. That thinh is made by Harmon Kardon and sounds surprisingly good.  

Not even a Bose could make MC Fudd sound good though.  

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Weighing in on the ring thing:

I’m a female and wore my engagement ring for a bit.  It really started to bug me because I find any pressure on my fingers constricting.  I tried a different setting, no bueno.  I never got the wedding band to double against my ring because that would have been ludicrous.  After a few years I stopped wearing a ring altogether.  This lasted 10-15 years I guess.

Then I tried a platinum band in a slightly different shape...it’s a tad more oval than round and it’s very smooth.  Also sized up.  In the winter my ring spins on my finger.  But at least I wear it 50 percent of the time.  The husband is happy with that but was also not the least bit concerned when I didn’t wear it.  He wears his and loves it.

i found out later that this was hereditary LOL.  My dad apparently never wore a ring and I never noticed.  He hated that feeling too.  Thee only time it annoyed my mom was when they would get wedding invites as Mr. so and so and GUEST.

So you would think I would side with Jon, right?  nope.  Cuz when he talks he acts all confused and shady....I don’t believe him.  He wants to appear single IMO.  If my husband wanted me to wear my ring all of the time I’d consider it but at the same time wonder why he was micromanaging a detail that has no meaning or significance in our lives LOL.  I conduct myself like a married woman.  And I have friends that are male and I hang out with them on my own.  I’m assuming that my integrity is more important than any outward symbols.

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I may not have seen this in the thread, but the most hilarious thing about this episode to me was Rachel meeting Jon's gorgeous cousin at the dinner and clearly thinking it was the ex-GF and being a total bitch until she knew it wasn't ex-GF.  

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15 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Good lord, what on earth could they be selling that anyone would be buying?

Swimsuits, bikinis, textiles, home decor, carvings, crafts, home decor.

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2 minutes ago, gingerella said:

A lot of people care or the bridal/wedding jewelry industry wouldn't be as huge as it is. Potato, Potahto, YMMV.

In other news, if I never hear IN THE NAME OF LOVE opined ever Ever EVER E.V.E.R. again it'll be too soon. Eternal damnation is hearing INTHENAMEOFLOVE over and over and over and over and over and over for all eternity, in Duhrcey's whiny voice.

I didn’t say not to buy them, just that if you don’t want to wear one... don’t.  Lots of folk I know have wedding rings in their jewelry box,  some days they wear them, some they don’t.  My brother and sister in law didn’t want to wear rings, but borrowed bands from family members for the ceremony. Years later on a vacation,  caught up in a second honeymoon mood, they bought matching silver bands and wore them for a month or so... they are in a box on the dresser in their bedroom now, I think they may wear them if they have special plans for their anniversary... 

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14 minutes ago, Ijustwantsomechips said:

Hey man, don’t knock the JBL speaker. That thinh is made by Harmon Kardon and sounds surprisingly good.  

Not even a Bose could make MC Fudd sound good though.  

My bad.  Wasn’t really a knock though...just flowin with the vibe I get from DJ Buffalo Check.  He strikes me as someone who would believe the Beats hype and he’s a poser.... but he can’t afford everything you know?  He should be walking around in Supreme and LE Nike’s super rare from the 80 to marry his blast from the past attempt with his look how connected I am now attempts but he’s just painful....stuck with street vendor crap and well....buffalo check and mesh tops.  Mesh tops y’all.  You have to be a special kind of wanker to appear in public on national TV not on dare in that nonsense.

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1 minute ago, HappyDancex2 said:

My bad.  Wasn’t really a knock though...just flowin with the vibe I get from DJ Buffalo Check.  He strikes me as someone who would believe the Beats hype and he’s a poser.... but he can’t afford everything you know?  He should be walking around in Supreme and LE Nike’s super rare from the 80 to marry his blast from the past attempt with his look how connected I am now attempts but he’s just painful....stuck with street vendor crap and well....buffalo check and mesh tops.  Mesh tops y’all.  You have to be a special kind of wanker to appear in public on national TV not on dare in that nonsense.

No har feelings ?. The speaker turned out to be a good Christmas gift for my nephew. Personally I’m surprised he didn’t pull out a gray boom box with a tape deck. He’s such a buster!

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1 hour ago, ChiCricket said:

If Ricky is a glazed ham, what is Tarik? I can't stand his "look."

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His hairline is very Lebron James.  His facial hair is very Drake...if Drake used a dull bikini trimmer wedged between both feet to trim his facial hair in the morning.

1 minute ago, Ijustwantsomechips said:

No har feelings ?. The speaker turned out to be a good Christmas gift for my nephew. Personally I’m surprised he didn’t pull out a gray boom box with a tape deck. He’s such a buster!

LOL.  SCRUB!

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13 hours ago, noveltylibrary said:

As sociopathic as he is, I can't muster up much hate for him, only because.. Darcey.

Jesse was in the army,  but he was traumatized by a pair of shoes?   He's such a poser with his "love and light,  and wishing you beautiful things" bullshit.

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8 hours ago, pinky33 said:

Right...because being in a happy relationship with a man is the ultimate gift to our teenage girls.

I would also like to add that I have a 15 y/o daughter who cares way more about her iPhone and Snapchat than my dating life. But if I were Darcey, my daughter would be snapping all my drama to her friends.

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9 hours ago, Pepper Mostly said:

He could go to the public library and use a dictionary! Why doesn't Karine teach him some useful words/phrases? Walk around the city and teach him the words for things!  Do they do anything but sit around that filthy apartment and whine? 

How quickly you forgot FALA!

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1 hour ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Good lord, what on earth could they be selling that anyone would be buying?

 

Stuffed unicorns and poop emoji pillows? 

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2 hours ago, MrFluffy said:

I don't get this fixation with rings. I know men who don't wear one (my Dad didn't), and a few women who don't either. If it's uncomfortable -- or puts you at risk (jobs like labor, performing musiicans, fine digital dexterity) -- what's the biggie? If you don't feel committed to each other to that degree, might be worth rethinking the union.

Because Rachel has the mindset of a jealous high school girl and thinks that every woman within a 20 mile radius is going to throw themselves at Jon. The ring is just a way to mark her territory and a socially acceptable alternative to her presumable preference, trailing 18 inches behind him at all times while holding a flashing neon sign that says "THIS IS MY MAN!"

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3 hours ago, Morgalisa said:

Maybe Jon and Rachel "had" to get married. She has a recent history of being lax in the birth control department.

I thought her new MO was to just take her fertilized egg and move on.  She would’ve sucked at tamagotchi.

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8 hours ago, magemaud said:

Didn't Jon say he had been kicked out of University because of the fighting incident that severely injured someone's eye? Maybe the money he owes isn't "student debt" and instead is some kind of restitution he's been made to pay his victim?

I am thinking the same thing.  I'm also wondering if the footage of him at 'work' wasn't some sort of community service.  I don't think he works at all, his mom probably just gives him a cut of the rent that the extra rooms bring in.  Maybe he manages the bookings or fixes things around the house, etc.  With no real living expenses to speak of, he's able to pay for Lucy's daycare.  

I do think he loves Rachel, though.  He just has to drop these little truth bombs on her slowly and with the right timing.  She's not going anywhere, though. She's ignoring every red flag because she was able to land a guy she thinks is out of her league, physically. 

I also have a theory that the hot cousin really was the ex-gf, but John pulled her aside and said 'Ya know, pretend to be my cousin so she doesn't go into a tizzy.'

I have absolutely nothing to back any of this up, just spitballing.

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8 minutes ago, SnarkEnthusiast said:

Because Rachel has the mindset of a jealous high school girl and thinks that every woman within a 20 mile radius is going to throw themselves at Jon. The ring is just a way to mark her territory and a socially acceptable alternative to her presumable preference, trailing 18 inches behind him at all times while holding a flashing neon sign that says "THIS IS MY MAN!"

Or just having him wear a shirt that says  "I have a piece of some kid's umbilical cord in my room.   It ain't my kid.  Creepy, no?"

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18 hours ago, millennium said:

I caught myself wondering if John has slept with his attractive cousin.

His revelations keep getting better.   Next week: "Rachel, honey?   There have been some unsolved murders in the vicinity and ... "

But seriously, quitting his job for a week off with Rachel?   It's like that Seinfeld episode where Jerry runs into an old college pal on the street and invites him to the diner, only to later discover that the guy blew off an important board meeting that afternoon and lost his job so he could have lunch with Jerry.

Jesse and the cigar.  Jesse and the ludicrous stars and stripes scarf.   Jesse on the streets of Manhattan.   The only thing missing was "Everybody's Talking At Me" wailing in the background.

I thought the US flag waving from his luggage was even more ludicrous than the scarf, he is such poser, among other things.  He's too much......they all are!

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Pole would have  money if it weren't for wasting it all on emoji pillows, stuffed unicorns, and sex toys. Their apartment looked like a landfill.  Pole can't work in Brazil, but Karinee can, but that'll never happen. I've seen sloths  more productive than her. 

Darcey's vein popping crying jags can't be much different than her contorted "O" face when she does the nasty with Jesse. He's such a d-bag. I'd laugh my face off seeing BoyBand Jesse strutting around NYC with an American themed scarf, and a huge cigar dangling from his mouth. If I was Darcey, I'd dig out the pleather outfit, apply more shellac to my face,  and head on over to the bar to get naked wasted, and flirt with the local men. Don't waste the pretty on a d-bag, Darcey. 

Tarik was fooled by Filipino Jolie's monotone drone, and sad eyes that he actually believed she was going to be homeless. Cha-ching. In reality, she lives with family, and pocketed the 'rent' money. 

Marta...yawn

Michael would be more stupider, (™ Family Chantel's Mom)  if he took  money from GrandeAng. Watch his Trumplandia fantasies go down the toilet faster than GrandeAng can smoke a ciggie, and eat a lard-ass cake. It quite possible there was a skimmer on the ATM. I know a couple that lost 10 grand from using an ATM in Rome. 

Jon's announcements are quite alarming due to how calmly, and casually he delivers them:  "Guess what Rach? I quit was fired from my job. Don't worry babe. I'm only in debt up to my eyeballs, and by the way, I'm not keen about wearing a ball and chain wedding ring. Can't let the ladies know ole Jonny boy is outta the game

Ricky can take a flying leap off a pier into a sea swarming with hungry sharks. 

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1 hour ago, Bou said:

Jesse was in the army,  but he was traumatized by a pair of shoes?   He's such a poser with his "love and light,  and wishing you beautiful things" bullshit.

The Dutch army must be very different from the US army. I don’t think Jesse would do well in ours.

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5 hours ago, spankydoll said:

Everything about Darcy is lie. Fake from.head to toe. She's a messy drunk all over social media and "fixes" it by deleting the posts. I don't be!over a word that she says..

I don't believe a word that most of these characters say, particularly Ricky and John & Rachel.

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