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I wonder did the ex FSB agent know Magnum was a SEAL or just by blind bad luck run across him and an ex MI6 agent to be her bird dog. 

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I thought this was one of the better episodes of the season.  I wasn’t too sure at first since the promos kept teasing the nuclear bomb, but it turned out to mostly be a missing person case and the nuke was only used at the end to justify Sergei not cooperating with Magnum so I didn’t have to suspend my disbelief too much.

I really liked how the writers managed to involve all the characters in the main case.  I definitely prefer that to having them split off into separate storylines where they only interact briefly.  I also liked how each character had a moment to shine, including Kumu when she got the drop on the Russian agent (you go girl!) and Katsumoto when he pulled back the patrol cars.  

And of course I was very pleased with all the scenes the three main guys had together.  Smart-ass Rick is always welcome on my screen and TC had some good moments too like his long-suffering patience when he picked up the other two at the police station and how willing he is to interrupt his tour business to help Magnum.  It’s a good thing his passengers were teenagers who didn’t mind playing real-life cops and robbers.  It’s really nice to see the guys working together like the team they’re supposed to be.

I even liked Higgins in this episode.  Previously the writers had done a good job of making me actively dislike her because she’s apparently an expert at everything, and awfully damn arrogant about it too.  And this episode started out the same way.  But she really redeemed herself in her last scene with Kumu when she was sympathetic and understanding and showed some vulnerability and even a hint of self-deprecating humor (I know I seem cold…the accent doesn’t help.)  If they keep writing Higgins like this I may grow to like her again.

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Kamekona pulled the same leaving his tour route to spot for McGarrett bit on H5-0

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I didn't see any promos, so I didn't know about the nuclear bomb.  When Sergei went to open the suitcase I paused the DVR and said to my husband "I know what's in there, it the pee tape!,"  I was disappointed to find out it was just a nuke.   

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Off topic, but I came here looking for comments on the "poker game" ep, and found that Magnum is now one long thread. Boo. That was one of my least favorite qualities of TWOP, and one thing I liked most about Previously - separate and easy to follow episode posts. I guess easy always wins out. 

On the topic of the episode, I would have preferred a more complex ending in which Meadow Soprano had actually arranged the robbery in order to pay her medical bills, and Rick and the team would have had to decide whether to expose her or not. Gray areas are always welcome (but that's not this show's MO).

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Is there a reason Higgins keeps tell people she's a 'major domo'?  Do people use this term in everyday language?  I've heard it before but in old movies (excuse me, classic movies...) on TCM.  Every time she says it (twice in the most recent episode) it just seems pretentious.  

Loved that they used the dogs in their roles as guard dogs.

Overall I'm enjoying the series.

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1 hour ago, seacliffsal said:

Is there a reason Higgins keeps tell people she's a 'major domo'?  Do people use this term in everyday language?  I've heard it before but in old movies (excuse me, classic movies...) on TCM.  Every time she says it (twice in the most recent episode) it just seems pretentious.  

Loved that they used the dogs in their roles as guard dogs.

Overall I'm enjoying the series.

Because Higgins, at least the prime version was a pretentious man.

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First Chin Ho Kelly on H50 and now Magnum and Higgins, just because Hawaii doesn't have a motorcycle helmet laws doesn't mean  all your characters would ignore their advantages

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On 1/18/2019 at 9:05 PM, Moxie Cat said:

Off topic, but I came here looking for comments on the "poker game" ep, and found that Magnum is now one long thread. Boo. That was one of my least favorite qualities of TWOP, and one thing I liked most about Previously - separate and easy to follow episode posts. I guess easy always wins out. 

This is just the transition period to a new website format, hopefully arriving soon and hopefully for the better.

Just wondering if Magnum allowed those two guys with all the drugs to escape because he an his friends were off chasing after murders and potential murders. Magnum could have at least informed the police to come and pick the drug smugglers up. Did anybody recognize Alara Kitan from The Orville without her alien makeup on.

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On 1/15/2019 at 3:40 PM, Rose Quartz said:

Previously the writers had done a good job of making me actively dislike her because she’s apparently an expert at everything, and awfully damn arrogant about it too.  And this episode started out the same way.  But she really redeemed herself in her last scene with Kumu when she was sympathetic and understanding and showed some vulnerability and even a hint of self-deprecating humor (I know I seem cold…the accent doesn’t help.)  If they keep writing Higgins like this I may grow to like her again.

They might be learning to strike a balance between Higgins having amazing skills and those awesome mi-6 contacts/assets, and making her a part of the team, without her constantly gloating and being an asshole about it. 

Also, at some point, they're going to have to stop with Magnum having to beg and plead for just ONE MORE FAVOR and them relenting, because at this point, if they haven't realized Magnum will FOREVER ASK FOR FAVORS and that they'll just give in eventually, then they need their heads examined.

It's like when I would watch The Mentalist, or any show where there's somebody who's totally screwball in their techniques, and they would reprimand him in every show, only for him to do it again the next time. The police woman finally just said, "Fine. We'll go along with your plans" and they got a new boss in charge who liked him and would agree to with what he wanted to do. It made the show so much better. 

Lethal Weapon has the same deal. The guy in charge knows they're going to break the rules and just rolls his eyes without threatening to fire them in every episode.

In just this show, Thomas had to beg Higgins, T.C., Rick, and Katsumoto for just one more favor, so the other characters need to stop telling Magnum that they won't use their helicopter/badge/mi-6 skills to help him anymore,. because it makes them look weak when five minutes later they do it.

Perhaps they can just have a standing quid-pro-quo rule.

On 1/18/2019 at 6:05 PM, Moxie Cat said:

Off topic, but I came here looking for comments on the "poker game" ep, and found that Magnum is now one long thread. Boo. That was one of my least favorite qualities of TWOP, and one thing I liked most about Previously - separate and easy to follow episode posts. I guess easy always wins out. 

Oh my gosh, yes. I was SO disappointed, as finding posts about a show that's been on for five years could make you go crazy. That's what I loved about this site and was dismayed that it was taken away.

15 hours ago, AnimeMania said:

This is just the transition period to a new website format, hopefully arriving soon and hopefully for the better.

I really hope you're right about that.

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NEW EPISODE: DAY OF THE VIPER

Magnum and Higgins are shocked when one of her former MI6 teammates shows up with a fresh gunshot wound and news that “the Viper,” the assassin who killed Higgins’ true love, has surfaced on Oahu.

 

Well, due to the unorganized multi-page jumble of episodes the show forums have now become, I thought I'd try and make it easier for people who may binge watch not to have to weed through 85 pages to find a particular episode. 

Anyway, show of hands as to who knew Ian was Viper from the moment he walked into the room?

And who believes, now that Richard has been the subject of multiple episodes, and we've seen a picture of him, that he's totally not dead?

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11 hours ago, SweetTooth said:

NEW EPISODE: DAY OF THE VIPER

Magnum and Higgins are shocked when one of her former MI6 teammates shows up with a fresh gunshot wound and news that “the Viper,” the assassin who killed Higgins’ true love, has surfaced on Oahu.

 

Well, due to the unorganized multi-page jumble of episodes the show forums have now become, I thought I'd try and make it easier for people who may binge watch not to have to weed through 85 pages to find a particular episode. 

Anyway, show of hands as to who knew Ian was Viper from the moment he walked into the room?

And who believes, now that Richard has been the subject of multiple episodes, and we've seen a picture of him, that he's totally not dead?

Hand raises for both. 

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3 hours ago, Aliconehead said:

Hand raises for both. 

Yes to both, with added wild guess that Magnum will end up killing Richard ... but this time for real because, you know, those first deaths don’t always stick.

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19 minutes ago, SamBeckett said:

Yes to both, with added wild guess that Magnum will end up killing Richard ... but this time for real because, you know, those first deaths don’t always stick.

I vote for Richard riding off into the sunset with Hannah (Magnum's old flame) to clear the way for the inevitable Magnum/Higgins romance.

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I have really taken to this show.  I would say after the first couple of episodes where they were just getting into it, I have really enjoyed every episode.  I like the camadarie, I like the actors/characters, I like the mix of suspense with some lightheartedness mixed in.  I think they are really finding their way.  As for the forum, for shows that don't get a lot of discussion I find this format easier--I find it easier to jump in without having to find the specific episode, or if you have more general thoughts versus episode specific.

Winner Takes All that aired Sunday--I just finished watching it.  I loved how everyone helped him with that case--that was kind of fun.  

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I do wonder if they were trying, and failed, to call back the most famous Magnum PI episode with the gun being held on Ian instead of Ivan?

It was strange that after seeing all that security at the super consulate., that a HPD officer could just walk around as if they would let him in, in the first place.

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7 hours ago, alexa said:

I have really taken to this show.  I would say after the first couple of episodes where they were just getting into it, I have really enjoyed every episode.  I like the camadarie, I like the actors/characters, I like the mix of suspense with some lightheartedness mixed in.  I think they are really finding their way.  As for the forum, for shows that don't get a lot of discussion I find this format easier--I find it easier to jump in without having to find the specific episode, or if you have more general thoughts versus episode specific.

Winner Takes All that aired Sunday--I just finished watching it.  I loved how everyone helped him with that case--that was kind of fun.  

I agree.  Winner Takes All has been my favorite episode so far.  I really liked how all the characters had a significant role to play and how they mixed the humor with more serious moments.  And I have to admit that the ending where Magnum reflects on how much he appreciates his new family while the chorus "we made it home" played had me a little choked up.  Does anyone know what song that's from?

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5 hours ago, Rose Quartz said:

I agree.  Winner Takes All has been my favorite episode so far.  I really liked how all the characters had a significant role to play and how they mixed the humor with more serious moments.  And I have to admit that the ending where Magnum reflects on how much he appreciates his new family while the chorus "we made it home" played had me a little choked up.  Does anyone know what song that's from?

It is called Made it Home by AHI. I found it by googling Magnum PI soundtrack winner takes all. There is a site that has the songs from the episodes. 

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They shouldn't have let Rick pretend to be Magnum in this episode because when Zachary Knighton said something like, "I'm a better Magnum than you are," he was right. He's got a lot more of Selleck's playful charm than Hernandez does, and it shows how much better they could have done casting the reboot.

I had to laugh when Higgins said that after all of Magnum's help she thought he "deserved" to see a picture of Richard. It was a super awkward way of getting Richard's face on screen so we'll recognize him in a few weeks when he's Back From The Dead.

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22 minutes ago, fishcakes said:

They shouldn't have let Rick pretend to be Magnum in this episode because when Zachary Knighton said something like, "I'm a better Magnum than you are," he was right. He's got a lot more of Selleck's playful charm than Hernandez does, and it shows how much better they could have done casting the reboot.

I had to laugh when Higgins said that after all of Magnum's help she thought he "deserved" to see a picture of Richard. It was a super awkward way of getting Richard's face on screen so we'll recognize him in a few weeks when he's Back From The Dead.

I really love Hernandez in the role, so I am glad they went that way.  But a lot of that is because I am looking at it as a somewhat new series, and not so much compared to the older one.  But I know what you mean for those looking for something more similar.  I am more than happy, though :-)

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Tonite why was Higgins tagging along thru the whole investigation? When they talked to the sister they kept looking at each other with knowing glances at something that was said. Reminded me of Friday and Gannon on Dragnet. Plus Magnum called himself a private detective again. All that plus the continual music in every scene nonstop gets on my nerves. Sometimes less is more. Despite all that it wasn’t the worst episode ever because I like Perdita.;)

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NEW EPISODE: I, The Deceased

Magnum investigates the murder of a man who, pre-death, hired Thomas to find his killer. Also, Kumu reconnects with an old friend.

 

Okay, so let me get this straight.

Magnum desperately needs a computer, to pay back his friends for the numerous favors they do for free, and to pay back for the Ferrari damage.

Now, I can understand not wanting to feel bad about taking that much money, but not paying back his friends, getting himself a computer, or leaving himself enough to get himself out of the hole, was just stupid.

He could have given five thousand dollars to the charity, which would have been MORE than generous.

I know the show always needs Magnum to be broke, but really, I rolled my eyes hard.

And can he and Katsumoto both agree to just reel each other in on cases? In this way, Magnum won't have to keep hiding that he's working the case, and Katsumoto won't have to pretend that when he tells Magnum to back off, that he actually does. 

It always starts out with Katsumoto yelling at him and ends with them being buddies. Then it's like it's forgotten the next week. 

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Overall I enjoyed this episode (I did miss the Sunday night episode which sounds good based on the comments, as it started late and my dvr didn't record the entire episode).  However, I continue to have the same nagging question-why is Higgins always working with Magnum?  This episode Magnum even said "we" when referencing the case (i.e. "we have a client").  Maybe the writers feel it helps the narrative as Magnum always has a reason to explain what he's doing (keeping his "partner" up to speed).  I liked that they brought the disabled veteran back as I appreciate continuity like that and it's good to see recognition of what so many veterans have experienced.

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My problem with The Deceased episode is the timeline; I'm just having trouble buying, even in TV magic wave things away world, that the guy was killed 12 hours ago.  So in 12 hours TPTB managed to:  Police/Fire recover the body, Police/ME identifies the body, Police notifies next of kin, Someone notifies the guys attorneys, Attorney finds "mail in event of my death" envelope, Attorney mails or hand delivers said envelope, Envelope is waiting for Magnum when he wakes up that morning.  That's assuming it is morning and all this happened overnight going by the guys last (poisoned) dinner which could have been his lunch but then 12 hours later it wouldn't have been light out when Magnum got the envelope.  That is some fast moving work on everybody's part!   

I did like Katsumoto coming to the rescue.  As others have said he and Magnum need to call a truce and work together a bit.  Obviously Katsumoto believes him at least some of the time and he was willing to come to the mill on TC's say so that there was an SOS text from Magnum with no other details or context.  They need a little more of that, just a little balance would be nice.  But still his being part of the rescue was a good addition.  

So, Season 2 is a go - wondering when we'll get the inevitable Magnum/H5O crossover.   Anyone here old enough to remember the Magnum/Simon & Simon cross over on the original run?  Watched both shows at the time and was and still am a huge Gerald McRaney fan so that was one I remember well.  Despite the ret-con needed to forget the H5O team mentioned the TV show and sang the Magnum theme song in Kamekono's chopper that time it could make for an interesting two parter bringing the two groups together.  Actually I would love to see a scene between Higgins and Danny; a cargument between those two would be worth watching!

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Sigh.  Seriously, Magnum.  Get a job at Burger King, or as a hula dancer at a luau, or become a male escort or something, but pay your friends back

Sheesh.

We're not talking a few bucks for a beer here and there, we're talking serious money like lost time for TC's business, fuel and repair costs, payroll etc.  Rick runs a business too, right?  More legit than the original!Rick as I recall...so Rick's got some expenses he needs compensation for.  Magnum lives rent-free, right?  Yet he habitually wrecks the Ferrari, or gets it shot up, or....?  Yeah.  The constantly scrambling for money and living while totally broke is supposed to be part of the canon, but this is so over the top that even the bestest of friends would have kicked him to the curb long ago.

As others have said, this $10K was the perfect opportunity for him to catch up and still donate a significant amount to charity.  He did the job.  He proved his client was murdered.  He proved who murdered him.  He proved why he was murdered.  So what if it didn't take very long?  Maybe he needs to change his fee schedule from hours worked to accomplishments achieved? 

More Katsumoto.  I love Tim Kang, I love his deadpan delivery, and those moments when he lets more personality spark out of those closely held characters.

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In general I've liked the most recent episodes since the holidays much better than the earlier ones.  They finally seem to be finding a way to showcase all the characters instead of having most of the episode focussed on Magnum and Higgins with the others only showing up for one or two scenes.  With that said, I agree with the others who don't understand exactly why Higgins is involved in every single case all the way through.  I would find her much more likable if her presence was scaled way back.  I also agree that the little touches of continuity are very nice.  In addition to bringing back Shammy there were references to a couple of other earlier episodes and it's good to see the writers paying attention to details like that.  If they continue doing more ensemble/teamwork stories I'll definitely be looking forward to season 2.

@alexa, thank you very much for the info on the song Made It Home.  The entire album, In Our Time, is available on YouTube and I suspect I'll end up purchasing it since I quite like several other songs on it.

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I  thought this episode was pretty good.  I agree that Magnum should have kept at least some of the money to pay his debts.  I had a problem with the criminal going to all the trouble to get the gun from behind the wall.  What are the chances a small gun would be found in the rubble after  the building is destroyed?    It would most likely never have been noticed.

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12 hours ago, ALenore said:

I  thought this episode was pretty good.  I agree that Magnum should have kept at least some of the money to pay his debts.  I had a problem with the criminal going to all the trouble to get the gun from behind the wall.  What are the chances a small gun would be found in the rubble after  the building is destroyed?    It would most likely never have been noticed.

But the criminal didn't know that. 

Personally, I wonder how likely it would have been that the gun, if noticed, wouldn't have just been taken home or sold at an auction, or in some other ways ended up in the hands of someone else (meaning no finger prints, or ways to trace it back to the original criminal).

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4 hours ago, kirkola said:

the gun, if noticed, wouldn't have just been taken home or sold at an auction, or in some other ways ended up in the hands of someone else (meaning no finger prints, or ways to trace it back to the original criminal).

Yeah, if someone did find the gun, there's a good chance they wouldn't turn it into the police.  And even if they did, it would have probably been impossible to figure out which apartment it had come from.

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On 1/29/2019 at 9:48 AM, sigmaforce86 said:

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So, Season 2 is a go - wondering when we'll get the inevitable Magnum/H5O crossover.   Anyone here old enough to remember the Magnum/Simon & Simon cross over on the original run?  Watched both shows at the time and was and still am a huge Gerald McRaney fan so that was one I remember well.  Despite the ret-con needed to forget the H5O team mentioned the TV show and sang the Magnum theme song in Kamekono's chopper that time it could make for an interesting two parter bringing the two groups together.  Actually I would love to see a scene between Higgins and Danny; a cargument between those two would be worth watching!

I always thought Simon & Simon was a more consistent show, while original Magnum was  good with the more serious episodes and weaker in the relative comedic episodes. With Kamekona and Noelani already making regular appearances it feels like we are halfway there with the crossover. I would propose that instead of another SEAL reunion, even if that is the only way McGarrett would put up with a PI besides Dogg The Bounty Hunter maybe use H50's ex MI6 reoccurring character to make Higgins the link

I am not seeing the point of Auntie Kumu, except to have another Asian cast member . Especially after the flack over the Grace Park and Daniel Day Kim departures from 5-0

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On 1/25/2019 at 5:54 PM, BW Manilowe said:

From TV Line: CBS Renews Magnum P.I. for a Second Season

Also renewed were FBI & The Neighborhood.

Good news. The ratings haven't been great, but they have to know that this is precisely the type of show that can dependably run forever on Friday whenever either Hawaii Five-O or Blue Bloods finally ends. 

On 1/31/2019 at 12:47 AM, Raja said:

 

I am not seeing the point of Auntie Kumu, except to have another Asian cast member . Especially after the flack over the Grace Park and Daniel Day Kim departures from 5-0

Well, you sort of answered your own question there. :) They went from having no Asian cast members to having two. That's likely something they felt was important, especially with the 5-0 issues (where they abruptly added, what, like, 16 Asian cast members to the show all at once to make up for Park and Kim's departure?). 

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On 1/29/2019 at 12:48 PM, sigmaforce86 said:

I did like Katsumoto coming to the rescue.  As others have said he and Magnum need to call a truce and work together a bit.  Obviously Katsumoto believes him at least some of the time and he was willing to come to the mill on TC's say so that there was an SOS text from Magnum with no other details or context.  They need a little more of that, just a little balance would be nice.  But still his being part of the rescue was a good addition. 

One of my favorite games when I watch this show is see what reason they come up with in that given episode to have Katsumoto mad at Magnum. They obviously A. want Katsumoto to be irritated at Magnum constantly but they also realize B. that if Magnum keeps saving the day, it is hard for Katsumoto to stay irritated at him, so in each of the recent episodes (and I bet going forward the rest of the season), there is a line where Katsumoto says something like, "This is why I don't trust you" or "I was just getting to like you, but now you did this." Just something to make us know that Katsumoto is still irritated by Magnum. It's kind of cute how they always find a way to work it in there.

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On 1/29/2019 at 12:48 PM, sigmaforce86 said:

My problem with The Deceased episode is the timeline; I'm just having trouble buying, even in TV magic wave things away world, that the guy was killed 12 hours ago.  So in 12 hours TPTB managed to:  Police/Fire recover the body, Police/ME identifies the body, Police notifies next of kin, Someone notifies the guys attorneys, Attorney finds "mail in event of my death" envelope, Attorney mails or hand delivers said envelope, Envelope is waiting for Magnum when he wakes up that morning.  That's assuming it is morning and all this happened overnight going by the guys last (poisoned) dinner which could have been his lunch but then 12 hours later it wouldn't have been light out when Magnum got the envelope.  That is some fast moving work on everybody's part!   

I did like Katsumoto coming to the rescue.  As others have said he and Magnum need to call a truce and work together a bit.  Obviously Katsumoto believes him at least some of the time and he was willing to come to the mill on TC's say so that there was an SOS text from Magnum with no other details or context.  They need a little more of that, just a little balance would be nice.  But still his being part of the rescue was a good addition.  

So, Season 2 is a go - wondering when we'll get the inevitable Magnum/H5O crossover.  Anyone here old enough to remember the Magnum/Simon & Simon cross over on the original run?  Watched both shows at the time and was and still am a huge Gerald McRaney fan so that was one I remember well.  Despite the ret-con needed to forget the H5O team mentioned the TV show and sang the Magnum theme song in Kamekono's chopper that time it could make for an interesting two parter bringing the two groups together.  Actually I would love to see a scene between Higgins and Danny; a cargument between those two would be worth watching!

There was also a crossover with Murder She Wrote.

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I thought The Day the Past Came Back (1 x 15) was another decent episode.  It feels like the tone of the show has changed lately and now they’re involving all the characters more instead of just focussing on Magnum and Higgins.  Plus we finally got to see what Rick was talking about in the third episode when he told Magnum that even though Hannah had hurt all of them, he and TC didn’t blame Magnum for it.  That’s some serious friendship there.  It was great seeing everyone working together to search for Magnum and it was nice that Magnum himself was actually competent and escaped from his kidnappers and then managed to stop Hannah from getting away with the gold.  

I just hope they’re not planning any sort of redemption arc for Hannah since it seems that ship has sailed, even if Magnum does still have some residual feelings for her.  I also wish they’d either cut down on the cgi or do it better - the tunnel explosion and truck crash were pretty obvious.

Oh, and Rick and TC’s kitchen karaoke at the beginning while in their uniforms was worth the price of admission to me.

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1 hour ago, Rose Quartz said:

Oh, and Rick and TC’s kitchen karaoke at the beginning while in their uniforms was worth the price of admission to me.

Yes.  This was priceless, as well as Higgins's and Amy's delight at being serenaded,  and the whole spanx exchange.

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1 hour ago, HurricaneVal said:

Yes.  This was priceless, as well as Higgins's and Amy's delight at being serenaded,  and the whole spanx exchange.

I forgot about TC asking to borrow Higgy's spanx but that conversation was also a thing of beauty.

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I liked this episode.

It had everyone working together from the very beginning, which was really nice. I'm hoping that this is a turning point, and we won't have to have Thomas begging everyone to help him each week.

And can we stop having a freaking DIAL TONE for a CELL PHONE. Lately they do two beeps, as if that's a thing. It's not. When someone hangs up or the line goes dead, there is silence. That's why half the time you don't know when a call's dropped off, so you just keep talking like an idiot, until you realize the other person is being really quiet. 

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3 hours ago, chitowngirl said:

I missed part of the climax. What happened to Hannah after the crash?

We don't know.  By the time Magnum got to the truck she was long gone, presumably so she can return to cause more problems in a future episode.

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12 hours ago, Rose Quartz said:

We don't know.  By the time Magnum got to the truck she was long gone, presumably so she can return to cause more problems in a future episode.

Can I be shallow and just say that I wish Jordana Brewster, the actress would put on a little weight?  She used to look so much better in her soap opera days....  She has been too skinny for a long time, and it distracts me when she is acting.  I think partly because she is very pretty, but much less so with being so thin in her face.  

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On 2/19/2019 at 1:34 PM, kassygreene said:

I suspicion an upcoming trope: the reason Hannah can't kill Magnum will be explained when the reboot version of Lily Catherine is introduced.

So much trope.

I was thinking triple agent like Michelle. But between this and Hawaii 5-0 how does any HPD officers make it to retirement?

I wasn't expecting Mac version 1. Up to now Juliet had been doing what Mac 1, then Maggie did in the original show

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