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1 minute ago, Chalby said:

Was he wearing a bullet proof vest? What a maroon, as Bugs Bunny would say.

That was my guess. 

No sympathy for anyone on this show, except the kids. Even Dicky’s daughters. Imagine being in jr high or high school and having your classmates watching you father be an idiot horndog on tv. 

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3 hours ago, Deafening Roar said:

Pol & Kreeny: I'm not making fun of him because he may have been born with some kind of issue, but when he runs, his legs don't bend??

I think he  has a genuine physical issue. I noticed his posture and the way he moves and it seems he's either in some sort of pain or he has some joint issues or both. It was rather painful to watch him walking the streets.

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Kreeny has dead eyes, yet they manage to look daggers at Pole (not to be confused with Alpha Woman Dancer Polette). 

Jon stepped in it,  big-time.

Jesse loves Connecticut and free refills. Darcy, HJNTIY. 

Decolletangela has no verbal boundaries. #sad

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This entire show is bullshit (tm Jicama)! Next week Pole is getting called to the the clinic...yeah, so Kreeny can pass off her illegitimate baby as his. WHAT A SUPRISE WE HAD NOOOO IDEA THAT WAS COMING! 

That car ride to the airport was PAINFUL, as is any scene those two morons are in. They broke up, pretend got back together and she wants to know if hes moving there? What the hell is wrong with her? And when they were in traffic and he got that furious look and sort of punched the air or whatever the fuck he did? Dude has serious anger issues and he isn’t even masking them anymore for the camera. In fact, I thought her younger daughter wasn’t tearing up being near him, but not in a good way, in a scared way. Am I the only one who caught that? It’s so embarrassing for Fodder to think all his superficial professions in his confessionals are actually believed out here in Viewer land. Then he shows his true loathing of Darcey now and then and it’s actually scary to see. 

Big Ang...Those udders flapping in that hot pink hot mess...”this is embarrassing...you made a FOOL of me!”...No Angela, YOU are embarrassing and YOU made a fool of yourself, so stop with the victim act. Michael said it all when he said if she broke up with him he’d be stuck in Nigeria. Yup dude, and that is heaven compared to a life with Ang. But my favorite part of last night was Angela grabbing her beloved magical red hat back because Myyyyyycul isn’t good enoug to wear it. That was hilarious.

Jicama ain’t gonna leave Little Ricky, even though she should. None of these folks will give up their ticket to the US, not even Kreeny and the Kreeper. 

I don’t give  shirt about the new couple, and I didn’t realize Basil and Boutique weren’t in this episode so, yanno...YAWN.

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5 hours ago, lgprimes said:

So I kinda watch this show intermittently ( missed tonight’s second half) but am surprised to hear people ragging on Paul so much. I mean, I get that he’s an utter weirdo, but any time I’ve seen he and Karine lately she’s been the one acting like a lazy entitled melodramatic teenager.

Seems like he doesn’t deserve to get so much of the blame for that dysfunction.

 if I’m way off base please tell me what I’ve missed so I can understand!

I agree. Yes, he definitely has issues, but the worst of the things he is being faulted for are far in the past, and most of the rest are about him being an oddball.

Sure wish we could have seen what went on about the food, especially whether Karine invited her brother to partake. On the face of it, Paul's version is that her brother and his friends came over and cleaned them out of all the food he had bought to last them a week! I'd say that's excessive by any means if true. He didn't mention anything about Karine's offering it or preparing a meal, but he did say they didn't ask permission.

I was very surprised to hear mama Karine call him a smartass. I don't think we've ever seen him to be anything but respectful to them. Karine seems to be the smartass of the couple - as well as lazy and brattish. I think her parents have spoiled her.

This couple has problems not only with communication, but the age difference with them is huge, because Paul, despite all his faults is an adult who takes responsibility while Karine is content to be a petulant pain in the butt.

However, dragging her on social media is just wrong!

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3 hours ago, millennium said:

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Love this! I said this before but her town is going to have to pass some kind of ordinance forbidding those two to live within the same zip code.... something! 

I started to say forbidding those two to be within 500 feet of each other but then I realized that they have those types of judgments that can be enforced if necessary.

Sometimes it just takes a village.

1 hour ago, pollywood said:

I could tell from the previews before the season that Angela was violent.

Good call.

She's even worse this week than last week.

Poor Michael! He's a very polite and well composed young man. I really hope a nice young woman notices him and hits him up on Instagram! 

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It's a little scary to me how Karine is turning into this bitch with a gift for gaslighting.

1 minute ago, jennyf said:

I have lived in states bordering Connnecticut for my entire life and I had no idea it was a thing to call it “C.T.”

I don't know about CT, but we call Pennsylvania "P.A."

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When I saw Paul in his bullet proof vest I was this is why he can’t be in a relationship no one is gonna be able to deal with how  anal/ocd he is, he would drive me nuts! And when Karine says she doesn’t wanna talk he needs to except that it’s her personal choice, but he doesn’t he pushes and pushes he hasn’t learned boundaries which is what got him in a world of shit before

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1 minute ago, Mainer said:

When I saw Paul in bullet proof vest I was this is why he can’t be in a relationship no one is gonna be able to deal with how  anal/ocd he is, he would drive me nuts! And when Karine says she doesn’t wanna talk he needs to except that it’s her personal choice, but he doesn’t he pushes and pushes he hasn’t learned boundaries which is what got him in a world of shot before

Karine doesn't want to talk now, and wants a divorce because she's now got a legal father for her unborn child. She doesn't need Paul around anymore, just his child support.

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2 minutes ago, trimthatfat said:

 “I did the BJ”...oh, Michael. I am going to have that printed on a shirt.

LOL!!  That was my favourite part of the episode.  "I did the BJ."  Omg.  You can't make this shit up.

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7 hours ago, Scarlett45 said:

Yes basically. I’d also add if anyone had accused me of sexual assault (full exception).

Seems that Jon was single and liked to sleep around (sometimes with people who were married) but HE was free. Rachel has no room to talk as she has a baby by a one night stand. A BABY, so she had unprotected sex with a stranger......

Who were all these women who found Jon attractive? I don’t see it, he strikes me as slow witted and  boring. Maybe he’s well endowed and knows how to use it ?

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  8 HOURS AGO, RENATAE SAID:

This woman is nuts. How on earth can a person who is Catholic and claims it is important to her think

things that people who are very serious about their Christian faith should not do:  1.  Have not 1 but 2 children out of wedlock.  2.  Be a stripper.  3.  Go to fortune tellers (I know that was her mom, but mom is Catholic too).

  8 HOURS AGO, SAJE81 SAID:

Good lord. Watching Pole lumber around in his bulletproof vest, whining into his phone app makes me want to puke. I stacked 2.5 cord of firewood today. Pole is younger than me and can’t walk up slight grades on the street without straining. What a sorry excuse for a man. 

This is the one thing I give him a pass for because, for all we know, we has a terrible back problem.  It would explain a lot in regards to his posture and old-man gait.

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5 hours ago, renatae said:

I think he  has a genuine physical issue. I noticed his posture and the way he moves and it seems he's either in some sort of pain or he has some joint issues or both. It was rather painful to watch him walking the streets.

So it seems to me as well, that's why I wanted to preface my comment because he may genuinely have an issue. Whatever it is, he needs to ix-nay the unning-ray, it is doing him no favors.

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11 hours ago, TwirlyGirly said:

Paul and Karine:

From what I know, in Latin, Central, and South American cultures, guests in your home are offered, and entitled to, your food. It is considered bad manners NOT to allow them anything they may want, even if that means they eat the last crumb you have. OTOH, they'd be expected to reciprocate when you are a guest in THEIR home. My ex is Puerto Rican, and I admit I had a hard time with this (especially when we first got together and had very little money). He had a nephew that knew exactly when we ate dinner, and he just "happened" to be in the neighborhood and stopped by every.single.night. - at dinner time! The way I was brought up, that was rude. The way my husband was raised, that was perfectly okay. I'd like to say I got over it, but it always bugged me. The best I could manage was to stop complaining about it.

 

Pole is stressed out because he's running out of money. He cannot afford this kind of lifestyle. He should have stayed in the U.S, living in his mother's basement and keep masturbating on free "hairy moms" porn on the internet.

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The only person I really like on this show apart from baby Lucy is Ximena.  I liked Karine a lot more during the first season we saw her.  She didn't come across as so whiny and lazy.

I guess I'm ok with Jon, too.  Rachel annoyed me with her complaints about it being "unfair" that she is separated from her beloved.  One would think that as a "mature" adult, she would understand that the USA might have some problems letting someone with a violent criminal record into the country,

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21 minutes ago, Granny58 said:

  8 HOURS AGO, RENATAE SAID:

This woman is nuts. How on earth can a person who is Catholic and claims it is important to her think

things that people who are very serious about their Christian faith should not do:  1.  Have not 1 but 2 children out of wedlock.  2.  Be a stripper.  3.  Go to fortune tellers (I know that was her mom, but mom is Catholic too).

  8 HOURS AGO, SAJE81 SAID:

Good lord. Watching Pole lumber around in his bulletproof vest, whining into his phone app makes me want to puke. I stacked 2.5 cord of firewood today. Pole is younger than me and can’t walk up slight grades on the street without straining. What a sorry excuse for a man. 

This is the one thing I give him a pass for because, for all we know, we has a terrible back problem.  It would explain a lot in regards to his posture and old-man gait.

Actually, many Hispanic Catholics get their fortunes read. My mom took me to a Tarot card reader and she herself would read a coffee cup.

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I don't understand why some people are so offended by Jon's fighting past. He probably fought with some other jocks or some drunk guys in bars. He was a young, alcohol loving, man playing sports for godsake. I grew up in Canada, playing hockey and drinking in bars. I fought with guys on a weekly basis as well. That's what young men do. It's just high testosterone. Fight and screw lots of girls. Very normal to me.

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1 hour ago, trimthatfat said:

He was wrong to call her family thieves,

It's entirely plausible that the translator app used "thieves" when he used a less judgey term.  

1 hour ago, trimthatfat said:

I would never go into someone’s home and eat all they had...that is just rude.

Amen!

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5 minutes ago, Eric said:

I don't understand why some people are so offended by Jon's fighting past. He probably fought with some other jocks or some drunk guys in bars. He was a young, alcohol loving, man playing sports for godsake. I grew up in Canada, playing hockey and drinking in bars. I fought with guys on a weekly basis as well. That's what young men do. It's just high testosterone. Fight and screw lots of girls. Very normal to me.

it's the conviction that is different.  he seriously harmed someone.  

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6 minutes ago, Granny58 said:

it's the conviction that is different.  he seriously harmed someone.  

And he was too dumb or psychotic to leave before the cops came. 

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32 minutes ago, libgirl2 said:

Actually, many Hispanic Catholics get their fortunes read. My mom took me to a Tarot card reader and she herself would read a coffee cup.

I agree, while the Bishop may have followed the rule book to the letter many people, including those who attend every obligation sometimes get seduced by the alternatives in life. The old sin on Saturday night and repent on Sunday troupe.

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Who were all these women who found Jon attractive? I don’t see it, he strikes me as slow witted and  boring. Maybe he’s well endowed and knows how to use it ?

Not to mention, isn't he like 5 feet tall?

Oh Pole and Karine... you kids are never going to make it. Karine really looks awful this season. I don't know if it's the pregnancy, drug use, or simply being with Pole. Marriages based on using a translator app are NOT a good idea. The cooling vest, sidewalk flowers, and frog run do make great TV though. 

Jesse has the longest torso and weird sloping shoulders. I can't stand him or Darcy. I'm convinced that all of Darcy's bags and jewels must be fake. Otherwise, she is wearing 20k in Cartier bracelets on her wrist. I wonder if the girls' father had money??? That condo didn't scream authentic Birkin bag to me. 

Angela is terrifying when she's mad. There must be someone else Mahkull can scam from the USA. "I did the BJ," is comedy gold! 

Marta's kids are adorable, but I think she is completely delusional, and this is going to end badly. Maybe that's why they've waiting until episode 7 to introduce her? I'm convinced her Algerian guy is a catfish. I don't think she mentioned anything about facetiming or skyping. 

Ricky is such a dolt. I can't with him. Ximea should get used to being called Melissa, as his children think that is who he's bringing home!

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4 hours ago, pollywood said:

I could tell from the previews before the season that Angela was violent.

I also think she is a drunk. Mahkull, is there Al-Anon in Nigeria? 

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Marta even entertaining meeting a man who is Muslim and trying to get her to convert ASAP...what are her kids going to do, convert too? Does none of these bubble heads think about the ripple effects they cause?

26 minutes ago, calpurnia99 said:

I cannot stand the slurry way Angela speaks. I live in Georgia and it is not the Southern accent that is annoying.  Like Paul, she leaves out entire syllables.  She says "Rlayshunship"  and I just keep "replan it" in my head.  It's not "romanic".  My doter, my shild. "I'm at my Brayin point." Right when she hit him what the hell did she say? I rewound it 3 times, it sounds like she said "Better get my Georgia Assface"

I want to turn on my closed caption but I don't think even it could figure out what these people are saying.

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11 hours ago, Godfrey said:

Jesse & Darcey need to get married, if for no other reason than to spare the rest of the world from having to date either one.

Post of the week. Congratulations.

9 hours ago, Kangatush said:

I'm team Jon on this one.  As long as it was before I was in an actual relationship with you, I don't have any communicable diseases, and I either don't have, or you know about any, kids, my past sex life is absolutely none of your business.  

The one half exception is if I have been married, you have the right to know why that marriage ended, including if I cheated.

Exactly. Jon never even breathed a word Rebecca about wanting an open relationship or anything else that might be considered less than traditional. Lots of guys are male whores when they're young, then settle down to become exemplary husbands and fathers. What exactly is Rebecca on about? What's past is past.

8 hours ago, Owwwww ma leg said:

Ever watched Locked up abroad? Fascinating and frightening.

I love that show so very, very much. I don't watch the ones about people who get kidnapped or something though, just the dumbasses who think they'll be able to smuggle cocaine out of Peru or Colombia, because "all the airport security are paid off" and "there's no chance at all of your being arrested". My son and I sit on the couch and judge mightily, and laugh heartily. My favorite is the one about David, the blues guitarist, who thought he'd just smuggle a few kilos of drugs out of Venezuela, and who ended up in Los Teques prison. We agreed that him doing hard time could only enhance his bluesman cred.

8 hours ago, TrininisaScorp said:

Besides doing a pretty good Chantel/Pedro ("Chu deal wid jour family, bay-bee") and Anfisa/Jorge ("GET. MY. RED. BAG.") arguing comedy routine, my adorable husband and I have added screaming "FALA" to each other and following each other around the house and surprising the other one with FALA.  We laugh until it hurts.  Man, I love this show.

Will you please move next door to me?  This made me laugh and laugh.

1 hour ago, CoachWristletJen said:

I never thought I'd see a living soul who could make Danielle appear demure, but... MEET ANGELA!

Definitely shades of Nicole, pushing Michael around, those sun-scorched, pendulous bosoms of hers swinging all over the place...

Then she's got to calm herself down and simultaneously work herself up by calling her daughter whom she's been grooming to be her best friend and confidant since she was, like, 8.

What's more annoying to me is she has Danielle's attitude of, "I bought myself a man. I own him now. Why isn't he doing what I say?"

Also no fair taking the gifts back. He can't take the sex back although I'm sure he wishes he could!

Angela's mistreatment of Michael makes Danielle's self-confessed door squatting look mild by comparison. (To keep Mohamed from leaving of course.)

And, maybe I shouldn't go here, but I can't help but get the feeling that she has even more feelings of superiority and ownership because Michael is Nigerian and black.

I'm sure Angela would deny being a racist and she would quickly rattle off a list of black men she'd had intercourse with to prove it.

Still, I just get this very uneasy feeling about her... Like she feels superior because of her skin color, and she would use the fact that he was her boyfriend to justify many unseemly remarks and attitudes? 

She puts down everything Michael says. And, she steamrolls over his culture, wanting absolutely nothing to do with it.  She doesn't really want to learn very much about him or his history other that to find out how many girlfriends he's had.  And, any suggestion or idea of his has no weight compared to hers. He's her boytoy, nothing more to her than that.

I think she mistreats white guys, too. I just get an impression that she has more of an inherent disregard for Michael because he's black.

I concur with your conclusions about Angela.

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52 minutes ago, snarkish said:

Pole/Kreeny: They've been married 5 minutes and Kreeny finds an excuse to ask for a divorce. Shocker! Who the Hell insists on a divorce after a newlywed fight? Oh, someone who was just looking for a ticket to the US and child support for her baby. Got it. I used to like Mama Kreeny until this episode. Obviously last week's drama tears were all BS because she's obviously in on the game. Could Kreeny look any more dead in the eyes when she refused to "FALAR!"?

Darcey/Meester Meister: OMG, these two. They feed off of breaking up and separating vs. the actual food they kept leaving on the table. Such a toxic mess. I can't take Darcey's over-enunciation of words and how her lips work when she speaks. I'm going to start using their parts as potty breaks from now on. They give me gas anyway.

Icky Ricky/Noxema-Jicama: Although I'm pretty sure that was all staged and she's not going anywhere that fast, he deserved every bit of that. Dumb ass has waited way too long tell her she was "2nd plate". And fuck you, Ricky, for being a spin doctor and trying to make it sound like it took so much courage to bring it up to her. 

Marta Jackson and Alegerian Catfish: Can we please be done now with translator app relationships? A good Catholic girl that works a pole? And as I mentioned in the live thread: Parents - STAAAAHP with involving your young children in your love lives! Especially when you haven't even met the other person yet! Otherwise, so far this couple is going to be a snoozefest for me.

Marlboro Angie/MAHkull: Ahhh, the Jerry Springer scenes finally emerge. As a Georgia resident, you are a full blown Redneck, Cracker-Ass, Angie. I felt assaulted by your saggy tits all episode that smacked all viewers in the face. All I could stare at were those wrinkled bags. And as someone upthread mentioned, yes, I believe she probably has a list of Black men she's slept with although calls them the N word behind their backs. 

Karaoke Rachel/Garbage Gnome: Mostly Rachel, again, who I want to slap all  the way back to New Mexico. Whinging about unfairness? You deserve a little real tragedy in your life, Sweetheart. Sick of seeing her under layers of fleece, looking like a ranch hand while Lucy's little head and feets are uncovered in England in December! I also agree with others who mentioned friend Matt being the real catch!

Oh @SNARKISH, will you marry me? LOL.

It's like you read my mind. 

I am most interested in how Karine will spin the pregnancy thing.  Paul seems like an easy mark for her to do a mind meld thing with him telling that sex on the wedding night (even though he probably condomed up), worked and the baby will be premature.

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2 minutes ago, PeaceLily2 said:

I was brought up the same way.  

Also, I’ve never had a family member clean out all the food.  I think we are missing a lot of the story.

Paul did imply that it wasn’t just the brother who came over. I assume his or Karine’s friends came as well and participated in the feast.

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3 hours ago, LocalGovt said:

I live in the US and was always brought up to offer guests who come to my home, refreshments.

Same here. And when we’d visit our relatives down south, my mom would tell me to always accept their offer of food even if I wasn’t hungry, because it was rude not to. I’d usually say no thank you to the food, but ask for a glass of water to oblige them. 

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3 hours ago, jennyf said:

I have lived in states bordering Connnecticut for my entire life and I had no idea it was a thing to call it “C.T.”

I'm next door and I have never heard it called CT.

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The way Jesse kept hoisting little Darcey-sized Darcey into his arms at the airport, while she wrapped her legs around his gangly torso?  GAG.  These are the people in public I laugh at. 

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I'm scratching my head over here.  If I was in a long distance relationship with established boundaries, It'd be over if they were violated; BUT, if exclusivity wasn't the case, I'd MUCH rather my boyfriend hook up than accept oral as payment for a ride.  One is normal behavior, the other is prostitution (of the exploit the downtrodden type).

Also, Jon, when you're dating two married women who are in open relationships too, that's usually called the Lifestyle in the US.  If monogamy is not appealing to you, be straight with Rachel; stay single or find a lady in the LS   If it's just a matter of being young and finding it where you can, but monogamy is your preference, carry on.  

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