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S02.E07: Truth or Lie

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Jesse's trip to America comes to an end; Karine and Paul continue to bicker; single mom Marta plans a trip to Algeria; Rachel learns more about Jon's dating history; Angela's frustration with Michael boils over; Ricky reveals all.

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4 minutes ago, TwirlyGirly said:

Paul and Karine:

From what I know, in Latin, Central, and South American cultures, guests in your home are offered, and entitled to, your food. It is considered bad manners NOT to allow them anything they may want, even if that means they eat the last crumb you have. OTOH, they'd be expected to reciprocate when you are a guest in THEIR home. My ex is Puerto Rican, and I admit I had a hard time with this (especially when we first got together and had very little money). He had a nephew that knew exactly when we ate dinner, and he just "happened" to be in the neighborhood and stopped by every.single.night. - at dinner time! The way I was brought up, that was rude. The way my husband was raised, that was perfectly okay. I'd like to say I got over it, but it always bugged me. The best I could manage was to stop complaining about it.

Very few of these Americans bother to learn about the cultures of their intendeds. Angela is a prime example. Paul is a selfish, insensitive SOB.

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Yes it's a cultural thing. I was married to a latino and every time we went to his family's I told him they always force food and drink on me. Of course they didn't but that's what it felt like to me. They bring the drinks out to you right after you get there and then I would be sitting there holding an unopened drink the entire time because I wasn't thirsty.

On the other hand they probably thought I was a bitch because I didn't offer anything when they came to our house but we don't typically do that in the US.

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I was hoping that Melissa and Ximena were roommates are were doing a nice job on Ricky. No, she did not have to know about Melissa but at some point it would come up. Especially if she meets Ricky's kids and they ask about 'Melissa'. No, no one wants to be #2 on the list. And it was wrong of Ricky to do so. What he should have done was gone home and *then* chatted her up on the Colombia Cupid site. She also took money from him to probably pay for her plastic surgery. What she did with that cash was her business, but if push comes to shove, he can sue her for it to be returned.

It was wrong of Paul to treat Karine's family like thieves. However, her family knows that Paul is not wealthy, Karine has no income, and the expenses add up. A simple sandwich and cookies or whatever would have been fine. Karine has known what Paul has been like all along and still chose to marry him. Suck it up sweetheart. He's the price of life in America.

Angela, you were quite vulgar with Michael. You may have also gotten yourself arrested in Nigeria and you'd have more worms in your can than you do. There is no true love with you two. You are abusive and abrasive and rude. Michael may seem more mild-mannered, but his goal is on the prize to get to the US.

Don't know enough about Marta and her Algerian dude - however, when he starts to tell you what to do, the red flags do come up. Watch where ya goes.  Stay in the US, take care of your kids, ease yourself out of the exotic dance job, go to school and get some skills and then find a better dude. Funny that none of the love interests will meet someone halfway.

Rachel, you are in a two week fantasy with Jon. You really don't know him at all. And he has not been sick, or angry, or anything. Just on his best behavior. Listen to his friends. And it's hardly unfair that you have to go home.  Both you and Jon have a lot of hurdles to get past before there is any happy ending - at least for now. True love has nothing to do with need. Both you and Jon need to deal with immigration lawyers and various consulates and embassies if you have any plans to get together.  Both of you are not in a really good place right now to bring anything to a relationship. Once you get bored of Jon and vice versa, it will end.

Jesse, stay in Amsterdam and move on and let Darcey also move on. Both of you will not have a happy ending with each other.

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Frozendiva, you just brought up a good point, these people are so quick to hop, skip and jump on a plane and fly all over the world to meet their "true love" but that is so scary to me! At least here in the US you are on your own home turf, if you act a fool, yeah, there's consequences, but you are on your own soil, so to speak. On the other hand, going to say Lagos Nigeria and acting a fool the way Angela did is very reckless and dangerous. Jails and/or prisons abroad are different than here!

You can't just go to another part of the world and act all entitled like here at home. SMH these people are just plum crazy!

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11 hours ago, Deafening Roar said:

Michael & Angela: Angela, go home. Take whatever you want, the MAGA hat, your pride, Michael's balls on a silver platter, whatever, but just GO HOME.

Pol & Kreeny: I'm not making fun of him because he may have been born with some kind of issue, but when he runs, his legs don't bend??

Ricky & Ximena: I think once she weighs the options, she will stay with him. Coming to America is the whole point for these dumbass foreigners.

Darcey & Jesse: if only he truly was coming back to dump her but we all know their old song and dance, same shit, different day.

Marta & Dia: since they are so new, I'm just not invested enough to make any observations. They are culturally very different so we will all be onboard this trainwreck as usual.

Rachel & Jon: wahhhhhh Rachel is so whiny and she has a long road ahead with his record. I'm just glad we get to see baby Lucy, she's the highlight of the show ❤️

Tarik & Hazel: she doesn't love you Tarik, it appears she barely even likes you. Either take it or leave it, bud, that's about the best you're gonna get out of her.

LMAO at “his legs don’t bend”.

eta:  if Pole has a medical reason for not being able to bend his legs, it isn’t funny...... but the way Deafening said it did make me laugh. 

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7 minutes ago, Deafening Roar said:

Frozendiva, you just brought up a good point, these people are so quick to hop, skip and jump on a plane and fly all over the world to meet their "true love" but that is so scary to me! At least here in the US you are on your own home turf, if you act a fool, yeah, there's consequences, but you are on your own soil, so to speak. On the other hand, going to say Lagos Nigeria and acting a fool the way Angela did is very reckless and dangerous. Jails and/or prisons abroad are different than here!

You can't just go to another part of the world and act all entitled like here at home. SMH these people are just plum crazy!

I would hope that the various embassies/consulates would enclose a contact information sheet along with any visas you get to visit X country - where the nearest US Embassy is, how to get help if you find yourself needing any help. Or it is in your best interest to get some information. Most of the folks who are part of this show are not world travelers. Seems like a lot of them spend their life savings to meet a 'true love'. True love is rare and you have to work at it.  For a lot of them, this is their first time abroad. They are not savvy and most seem pretty clueless. Michael could easily bring Angela up on assault charges. Granted she is behaving in a stupid, selfish, and entitled manner, so he probably wouldn't. And he may have secrets that he wouldn't want coming out at this time. She would not want to have to deal with the Nigerian police and also various diplomatic issues.

Few of these folks' stories seem to be about true love. More like power over another.  You hold the visa cards. However, you are also signing away 10 years of your life looking after this person, so you must choose to do so wisely.

Rachel is lucky that Jon is British and there aren't as many hurdles to overcome culturally. He has to deal with his criminal record and she has to see if she can move to the UK. Jobs are hard to find, and she doesn't seem highly skilled. She also shares custody of another child with her ex-husband. It's too bad that the universe is keeping them apart. The universe knows what it is doing. Maybe it is sending her warning signals to slow down. Jon kept his open relationships with other women from her. What else is he keeping?

Paul and Karine are semi-doomed unless they both learn a language in which to communicate. The translator app will not keep this alive. Karine is young and immature. Paul is immature. Surprised that he was allowed to travel to Brazil with his criminal record. Ah well.

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6 minutes ago, islandgal140 said:

And Rachel please, the gov't isn't keeping you apart, Jon's criminal past is. 

Yes. His criminal past isn’t even a non violent crime (like drug possession or tax evasion), he hurt another person. Imo crimes against people are another level compared to a property crime. 

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1 hour ago, Deafening Roar said:

Pol & Kreeny: I'm not making fun of him because he may have been born with some kind of issue, but when he runs, his legs don't bend??

I was going to say that when he runs, it looks like he’s wearing cement shoes. He doesn’t pick his feet up at all. 

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1 hour ago, Kangatush said:

My new go to to pick a fight is to follow someone while bleating, "fala".  

I don't think feeding guests is a cultural thing, it's a good manners thing, at least to me.  But I also understand bitching to your wife afterwards since neither of you are currently earning any money.  She's way too immature to be a wife and/or mother, and he's a weird, hairy, stress ball.  Just a bad match.

Thank you so very much for this.

"FALEEEEEEEE"

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3 minutes ago, Frozendiva said:

Jesse was probably amazed at the size of the supermarkets/grocery stores. And the food selection available. Plus the large fridge sizes here in North America.

And the jumbo-sized whine-fests.  Free refils on those.

Anyone else hear that Darcey wants him to get a work visa, not a K1 - because that would be less, um, details?

So, to recap: (a) they meet; (b) she visits; (c) he visits; (d) at some point he figures out that she can't sponsor him with a K1; (e) COMPLETELY UNRELATEDLY he's an asshole and won' t propose though she thought he might.    

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1 hour ago, Rt66vintage said:

Yes, this! The way she curls her lip & thrusts her "1-2-3 lies" fingers at him, snarling like an animal, over what!? Admit it, Ang, you really can't stand it that you're way too old for him, he prefers black women and you're far too insecure. No need to get nasty mean about it.

Agree

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1 hour ago, Deafening Roar said:

Frozendiva, you just brought up a good point, these people are so quick to hop, skip and jump on a plane and fly all over the world to meet their "true love" but that is so scary to me! At least here in the US you are on your own home turf, if you act a fool, yeah, there's consequences, but you are on your own soil, so to speak. On the other hand, going to say Lagos Nigeria and acting a fool the way Angela did is very reckless and dangerous. Jails and/or prisons abroad are different than here!

You can't just go to another part of the world and act all entitled like here at home. SMH these people are just plum crazy!

Ever watched Locked up abroad? Fascinating and frightening.

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3 minutes ago, rideashire said:

She is so needy that I feel the urge to run from her just sitting in my living room. Every single thing she says is a leading question, designed to drag him into a conversation that will produce enough commitment to satisfy her. (but will anything satisfy her?)

I know right? Like when she says "I love when you do _______. It makes me fee like you _________". I don't know, it sounds somewhere between desperate and speaking to him like a child. That's the best way I can articulate how she comes off to me. It's so unsettling and I really truly hate listening to her. Don't get me wrong, he's no prince but there is just something more about her that just screams phony. The airport romantic goodbye act is a good example. I wish she was a lot younger, at least I could justify her corny act but this is a woman with two teens. I want to be embarressed for her kids but I suspect they're just used to it. 

3 minutes ago, rideashire said:

She's also really strange with her own kids, too, hanging off them and being extra needy, which is a talent. 

Yeah that group hug thing was just all sorts or weird. 

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Angela/Michael= -He must want to come to America real bad.  She is insane.  The only  person making Angela look like a fool is Angela.  Micheal is better off.  And I say that with him being a garbage person too.

Pol/ Karine- What was that vest? The food thing was rude and probably done to piss Pol off, but I certainly believe he has anger issues and becomes a scary and insulting a-hole to Karine when he's mad and off camera. If the camera crew wasn't there he would probably burn down her house. She has her faults but doesn't deserve Pol.  That poor interpreter having to convey all that crap and sit there between them.  Go, Karine's mom!  Knock some sense into your child.  She was so correct in that Pol didn't have to put their business on social media to drag Karine through the mud.  Karine should get together with the interpreter.

Jesse/Darcy- Her kids were making faces as they hugged him.  Even children know this relationship is doomed.

Ricky/ Xim- Has he even told her he's STILL MARRIED?  I think that's worse than hey I was talking to two chicks on a dating app but decided you were prettier and nicer.

 

Rachale/ Jon- I think all that open relationship stuff was just trotted out for drama on camera.  I think the real them are weird but pretty boring and Jon seems very devoted to Rach and Lucy.

Marta- Why?  Just stay at home with your kids. 

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3 hours ago, Adeejay said:

Rachel said that she doesn’t trust easily, and yet, she got pregnant on a one night stand and travelled all the way to England to be with a man she met online.  

Ximena was sure to find out about Melissa when the show aired, but Ricky had plenty of time to come up with a plausible explanation.  Why the rush?!

Based on the goodbye between Jesse and Darcey, I knew our nightmare would continue.

Angela is either going through serious nicotine withdrawal or losing it. 

I guess all these folks are so delusional, of course Rachel trusts way too easily, that’s probably been her biggest problem in relationships.

And it’s not nicotine withdrawal for Angela, ciggies were right there on the table,  She’s just a wicked witch of the sou

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4 hours ago, Major Bigtime said:

Why are we just now seeing Marta the exotic dancer, er, stripper?

Paul really looks like an out of place psycho.

Was he wearing a bullet proof vest? What a maroon, as Bugs Bunny would say.

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