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S02.E05: Seeds of Doubt

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7 hours ago, TheRedQueen said:

bag of rose petals straight from a Harlequin romance novel. Btw I’ve never seen a bag of rose petals for sale. EVER. 

Maybe he took back the roses he bought for Melissa. 

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Jessie saying “they aren’t my daughters” reminded me of The Royal Tenenbaums, where Royal always referred to Margot as his adopted daughter.

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What is with the short wisps of hair along Jesses hair line. I don’t  know much about cooking steak but that looked awful. Darcey you stay in your lane 

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10 hours ago, Kangatush said:

I have never been to Africa, but this show makes me believe it makes your shoulders really hot.

How dumb is she to talk about the hot weather to the locals?  ?

10 hours ago, JennyMominFL said:

That steak WAS badly cooked. Just sayin

and sliced! was she using a butter knife??  oh but she worked in a restaurant she knows how to do it ?

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Kreeeeny lives and looks,  with her complexion and lifeless eyes, like a dull-witted slattern. 

In fact,  none of the foreign choices is appealing. 

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5 hours ago, millennium said:

She kept challenging Michael like someone who'd been on Jerry Springer too many times

You’re not far off. 

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I felt so bad for that poor translator in the Karine and Paul convo with her parents. Will there be a translator when they recite their wedding vows to each other ?

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On a side note, I feel like I need subtitles when Angela speaks. 

My heart broke for hazel when dean questioned why her son doesnt live with her and made insinuations against her. Even though she is clearly just a run of the mill opportunistic seeker. 

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Looking so forward to everyone’s thoughts...

Jon continues to give me a complete psycho vibe every time I see him. If he is unable to get a visa to come here, what are their plans? She has another child at home. Jon’s been in 50 or 60 fights. Mike Tyson had 58 fights. Rachel is crazy to trust him. All they need is one night in a bar and for Jon to think someone is looking at Rachel in a way that is “disrespectful” to him.

Paul and Karine are getting more unwashed and gross by the week. Paul is lucky that Karine’s family did not beat his ass when she told them he’s not nice to her when her parents are not around. I didn’t get a feeling that he’s mean to her. I think she’s secretive and doing stuff behind his back and he knows that. His answer is to “forbid” her from being “social” online but she lives on her phone and spends her days lounging in bed chatting up whomever while he does the dishes and puts her toys away. Bleh.

Ricky is irritating to me. He tries to come across as a puppy dog/good catch that has just had unfortunate luck with women, but I’m not buying it. His first message to this second choice girl was asking her for sex upon meeting? A hopeless romantic? How about a pig? He made it sound like he went to Colombia to meet her when hat’s not the case at all. He’s full of shit. Once the new gal arrived at his hotel, I FF’d through. No interest in this fool and I’m sad that he had a backup plan that will keep him on the show.

I get that smoking is not healthy but if Angela wants to smoke, that is up to her. If Michael does not like the smell of smoke or whatever, that is fine. It means they are not a match and should part ways. Same with Jesse and Darcey. If he wants a woman that does not drink, then don’t date one. Don’t get involved in a relationship and expect to dictate what the other person does. Looks like Angela did not bring a single appropriate shirt with her. I would have been TERRIFIED on that shaky walk. Ha. Angela does not want to work on their relationship, she wants to tell Michael what to do. Telling him “You make me snap and need to stop doing whatever it is that makes me snap,” is something an abuser would say. Michael has to make her happy so he doesn’t ruin his ticket to America. Angela should take her layaway ring and go home.

Watching Darcey and Jesse turn every single conversation into an argument is getting tiring. I just don’t understand why anyone would put up with this bullshit. They can’t even make a shopping list? Darcey’s “We have a lot of issues to work through,” was laughable. Issues? What exactly are the positives in the relationship? Oy, she wants him to be “into” shopping for dinner ingredients? Lord. The dinner making was a riot. Let’s have the kids watch us nearly kill each other while cooking steak and Rice a Roni. Madness indeed. The rice looked like it was brown in one picture but when finished in the pan looked like white rice.  There were some priceless looks on the faces of Darcey's kids during that fun, family bonding moment.

Tarik and his backward baseball cap needs to go away. I don’t think Hazel is attractive at all. I thought the brother was kind of mean to Hazel with regard to her son. She as no money. She’s dirt poor. I don’t know that I would judge her on that. I agree that something isn’t right with the relationship and I usually FF through their segments but I seem to recall people posting here that Hazel is very upfront that she is looking for a meal ticket.

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48 minutes ago, Neurochick said:

But Hazel is a user and if Tarik isn’t careful she’ll drain him and there will be nothing left for his daughter.  Come on, Hazel is not some innocent little flower.  She’s woman enough to get on the Internet to look for an American man.  Goodness, Dean was just being honest.  I’ll say it again, Hazel is a vampire and she’s fooling many with her act.

That's true. The only reason she cried was because she was frustrated. Tarik's brother was an obstacle in her way of America and that house full of larger than 8' x 8' rooms. She doesn't care about Tarik or what either one of them really thinks as long as she gets to America. And she will probably wind up leaving her son in the Philippines; he won't be joining in on her 'better life.' Seriously, if it were a labor of love, her parents would probably already be helping her take care of him. And, we can just imagine how much compassion she will have when she's alone with Tarik's daughter. 

If she knew how to manipulate American style, she would have screamed and yelled about how much she loved her child, but again, she's accustomed to communicating very differently. Her tears will work wonders on Tarik. As for the rest of it, she can close her eyes and think of her ex. 

She'll probably dump Tarik and run off with another guy in 2 to 4 years. Serves him right.

That's probably what happened to him before.

What's tempering my judgment of Hazel is the fact that she's dirt poor and desperate. I wouldn't want to work in a factory for a pittance for the rest of my life either. Not sure who her employers are, but I'm guessing they are not Fair Trade.  She sees something better. Maybe she envisions having enough money to get her son back.

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10 hours ago, lucy711 said:

Maybe Karine and Paul wouldn't have communication issues if they actually spoke the same language.

Paul should have picked up some Portuguese by this point.  And if Karine intends to come to the USA, she should be studying English.

Paul is a creep and annoying, but even he doesn't deserve to be responsible for the kid that Karine is clearly baking in her oven!

From Paul's IG:  "Karine wanted a baby so I bought her a baby."  creeped out..

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10 hours ago, Kangatush said:

A note on steak.  "juice" is retained by letting it rest.  Cutting across the grain, whether or not at an angle, makes it more tender to eat.  

Don't correct her, she worked at a restaurant!

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10 hours ago, sainte-chapelle said:

Jon "Do you trust me." Rachel "Yes." I saw nothing but fear and doubt in her eyes.

she is a complete idiot.  this is stuff she needed to find out before she dragged her baby to meet him.  i have zero sympathy for her.

9 hours ago, hookedontv said:

All of Angela’s hootin’ and hollerin’ hurts my ears. And my eyes. 

haha hootin' and hollerin' made me think of Yosemite Sam 

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9 hours ago, Suzywriter said:

Darcey has an eating disorder. She always starts fights and walks away from meals. That's a common technique with people who are making excuses to avoid food. 

I had eating disorders as a teen/young adult, you may be onto the something.

9 hours ago, Frozendiva said:

No one can 'make' you do something unless they say hit me and then put your hand on them to hit them.

Abusers come in many forms. Many go on about being a 'victim' and that nothing is their fault. Always someone else. Nope, someone triggered something in them, and they chose to react in the way they do. Most are very very weak and have no power. So it is a prop to get them to perceive themselves to have power.

Absolutely!!  When Angela said he "makes her" go off, I went off!

9 hours ago, JasonH said:

He said “I know steak”. You dont cook steak in a stone cold pan. She needed to cut it on a “bias”? What the fuck does that mean? An angle? Both these assholes are too much. I feel sorry for those girls.

And after it was cooked she tells him he needs to get a chargrill on it.  The idiocy never ends.

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My 91-year-old mother,  who smoked since age 25 (coincident with my birth,  haha!), didn't have anywhere near the wrinkles of Angela.  And that's an understatement. 

And does Angela think she is NOT fat? She really does shop at Delusions 'R' Us. 

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8 hours ago, iwasish said:

Can you imagine Darcy’s reaction when her 11/12 yr old daughters are 17/18 and    strutting around in front of 30 yr old stepdad Jesse while 50 yr old Darcy sits and stews. 

 

Thank God we know that won't happen now.  Or will it?

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8 hours ago, magemaud said:

 

Hazel looks like she’d rather be doing anything other than giving Tarik “some lips.”

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This picture says it all. Hazel is cutthroat, and I kind of get it. She works long days at a grueling job for a pittance. She either sleeps in a 10 x 10 cell with her parents or at her ex's place. 

Gauging by her mom's imperious 'judgy face' there has probably been a fair amount of friction there. After all, their daughter has a child with another husband and clothes at a different boyfriend's house and is perusing for strange men online? I envision Hazel's mom sprinkling holy water on her in her sleep because she can't afford holy oil.

I would think a woman has to summon her inner cobra to turn herself over to a man who repulses her. That being said, Tarik's brother was nothing more than an obstacle. He didn't hurt her feelings. His hold on Tarik's brain was just something that needed to be detonated so that she could move on her way to the U.S. Her tears did that quite effectively.

Tarik, you repulse her.

She will leave you when she gets the chance.

I still like her a whole lot more than I like him.

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8 hours ago, Frozendiva said:

Jesse needs to learn a lot more about #twinflames. I have a soul connection. They are about healing and I have done a lot of work on myself - released and continue to release pain, deal with my triggers, my issues. Maybe he and Darcey just romanticize it. It's hard work. Jesse and Darcey still are very much in egoland.

When she told her sister they have ups and downs like everyone else I thought, what planet are you on?

8 hours ago, TheRedQueen said:

This show is becoming less entertaining and more heart breaking. 

Call me cold but the entertainment factor just keeps getting better!

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1 hour ago, Quof said:

Maybe he took back the roses he bought for Melissa. 

Or he picked them up when she threw them out of the taxi. 

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10 hours ago, Frozendiva said:

Ricky, you can get out of the Melissa thing with Ximena and tell the truth. You came to meet someone else, but that didn't work out, you didn't connect, yadda, yadda,  and thought you would call her since you were in the area, not expecting anything either.  Or you will have your own bad romcom of losing two girls in 10 days. You are pressuring yourself to find a lifemate in a few days. You too have to figure out what you can bring to a relationship, besides finding some sort of exotic beauty who will be enthralled by you.

He made me sick when he texted if she'd like to have intimacy with him tonight  then "let's get to know each other".  He is such a loser!!

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9 hours ago, EllaDisco said:

Well, TBH, that was the best thing to say whether she trusted him or not.  If she was worried, she shouldn't be saying anything to upset him while she's in a vulnerable position.

Seriously?,  Do you people really think he's gonna haul off and smack her?.  I actually believed his friends that he didn't start the fights, he just doesn't back down, while he's on the "piss". Has he ever hit a woman?  I don't think that's the case. 

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8 hours ago, PityFree said:

 They do sell bags of rose petals.  The first time I saw them was when I was a flower girl for a family wedding.  They opened up the bag and put them in a little basket so I could drop Rose petals on the ground in front of the bride.

Yep! You can get them at craft stores and dollar stores. Many colors as well.

Ximenia seems lovely and I kind of feel bad that she was the second choice. She seemed really excited to meet Ricky so I think she’ll let it slide that she wasn’t the first choice. I do think she’s crazy to travel that long to see a man she only knows through a dating app though and to stay at his place. I’ve watched too many Lifetime movies, I guess.

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Not defending Jon- but being in 50-60 fights doesn't make you a terrible person, and certainly doesn't mean you would ever attack your wife/ children/anyone who isn't trying to hit you.  I spent 2 nights in the UK in the early aughts and was involved in no less than 3 fights. Bars there do a lot less "cutting people off" than they do stateside. 

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59 minutes ago, LennieBriscoe said:

Kreeeeny lives and looks,  with her complexion and lifeless eyes, like a dull-witted slattern. 

I love learning new words, thanks!  "A dirty, untidy woman."

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18 minutes ago, Honey said:

Seriously?,  Do you people really think he's gonna haul off and smack her?.  I actually believed his friends that he didn't start the fights, he just doesn't back down, while he's on the "piss". Has he ever hit a woman?  I don't think that's the case. 

 No, I dont think he will smack..... at least not yet. The US refused to allow him on a visitors visa for a reason... he might be dangerous ... 50 or 60 fights is NOT the norms for the average man. And, I do believe she already knew all this info about him prior to flying and was just asking the questions so he could tell the viewers the story. He has had a violent, aggressive past. He might never harm her children- but why take a chance ? There are plenty of men to fall in love with who dont have aggravated assault on their criminal record. I was surprised he said he hadn't served prison time. 

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55 minutes ago, Lily247 said:

On a side note, I feel like I need subtitles when Angela speaks. 

My heart broke for hazel when dean questioned why her son doesnt live with her and made insinuations against her. Even though she is clearly just a run of the mill opportunistic seeker. 

i can't blame her for being an opportunistic seeker, seeing her living conditions.

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I don't think any of these internet "friends" should be upset that there are multiple "friends."  I mean, they live in different countries, for goodness sake. I think if Ricky tells Ximena in a nice way, she'll get it. 

Tarik's brother was a bully. Who does he think he is talking to someone like that? He was cruel--and scary!

Karine is a young girl, who is likely trying to hedge her bets. Paul is in the U.S. for long stretches, so she's probably spending her time checking out who else she can find on the interwebz besides Paul. I mean, she got one guy to travel, and I think she's got high hopes someone else will. 

Jesse and Darcy make me sick. Darcy is exhausting. She just doesn't know how to shut up! And why are they even together if he wants kids? She's 43! Her eggs are spoiling as we speak!

Jon and Rachel--this isn't gonna end well. One day, he's gonna snap. People with those kinds of issues just don't turn it off. It requires work. 

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8 hours ago, Splithair said:

Yes!  What the hell is a bias??

It is a cut on an angle. I personally would say cut cross grain. I think the word comes from fabric cutting and cutting along the bias. I didn’t find the word choice odd but I am Canadian and we often use some different terminology from Americans.

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40 minutes ago, noveltylibrary said:

And after it was cooked she tells him he needs to get a chargrill on it.  The idiocy never ends.

She's all about appearances.  Does it look good to have a steak with your family for family time together with insta-stepdad in an uncluttered CT rented condo?  Does the steak have nice criss cross lines?  If not, get a chargrill on it.  Now it has the lines -  awesome!  Does it taste good?  Who cares!  Shut up and smile because this is Love and Perfect or at least Looks Like It To Other People, which is all that's important.

P.S.: Do not doubt me on this snarky comment.  I worked in a restaurant once, babe.

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That above close-up of Angela? Let me be serious for a sec: Pretty eyes,  well-formed nose, blonde,  and we know she has big bazooms. I'm thinking that Young Angie might well have been quite the looker. 

Funny how memory can sustain us. 

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9 hours ago, Splithair said:

Yes!  What the hell is a bias??

It really is a term in the culinary world.   I worked in a restaurant.  @@. I really eally legit was a cook in the Marines and then in the civilian world. It means cut at an angle. Its commonly done with carrots and other veggies.  Personally, I  render the fat on the steaks, cook each side in a hot cast iron pan to get caramelization on the outside. If its thick i pop it in the oven for a few minutes, Then let it rest and cut on a bias.   That is If I cant use  BBQ

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9 hours ago, charmed1 said:

Tarik in no way loves Hazel and vice versa. Hazel is a fetish to him. He’s probably graduated from a porn fetish, to a real life one. Because, “Asian girls are hot,” according to this doofus.

Replace with "hot and submissive" and you're probably closer to the truth.

1 hour ago, Neurochick said:

But Hazel is a user and if Tarik isn’t careful she’ll drain him and there will be nothing left for his daughter.  Come on, Hazel is not some innocent little flower.  She’s woman enough to get on the Internet to look for an American man.

This is Nikki all over again. I remember how they let slip (in a bonus clip, I think), that Nikki was actually 16 when she first met Mark online. They made it sound like Mark found out she was 16 and then he chivalrously told her they had to wait for each other and have no contact until she turned 18. Give me a break. More likely is that they were in touch the whole time but had to lie about it because him talking to an underage girl online and then going to meet her is a federal offense that should have had his pedophile ass in jail. At any rate, Hazel is an adult, but using the same playbook. Someone on another site posted screenshots of her from social media and she was filtering the crap out of her pics to make her skin look lighter/clearer/younger, etc. Probably why we perceive this disconnect between Tarik thinking she's the most beautiful woman ever and the reality that she's kind of average looking.

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1 hour ago, configdotsys said:

Paul and Karine are getting more unwashed and gross by the week.
 

Yes.  Did anyone else notice how long Paul's fingernails were in the scene where the two of them were sitting in the restaurant, passing the cell phone to and from each other whilst discussing his sudden, oh-so serious rage issue?  Few things gross me out more than a guy with long, and in Paul's case, dirty, fingernails. 

6 hours ago, Lizzing said:

 

Rickey and those booster boots...he's turning into Costanza.  Next week he'll color them black with a sharpie!

 

Ha!  I heart you, Lizzing! 

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8 hours ago, islandgal140 said:

 

The only time a person should be involved in 50-60 fights is if they are competing for the Golden Glove championship. And he allegedly never started any of them but it sounds like he damn near finished them. I guess he is the very definition of 'don't start none, won't be none!' Him vs a gang of college students made him sound like Jackie Chan. 

Jon chose his more respectable friends to introduce to Rachel. LOL!!! It is funny though that they weren't saying anything different from any of his other friends.  If all his friends, his mother and his sister say that he is pretty much an irresponsible manwhore who loves to drink and fight than I am apt to believe them!

 

 

Jon is what my UK friends would call a chav, and they are known for getting in fights. More little skirmishes than anything.

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I can't take my eyes off of Hazel's hair during her segments. It's thin and falling out. Part of the problem may be poor diet and lots of stress, but that reddish-blond dye isn't helping anything. The roots look gray in some spots too. She probably colors her hair to make her stand out in a place where most people (and her competition for foreign men) have dark hair, but she'll stand out more if she goes bald. 

Because I don't trust this show even as I enjoy it, maybe Ximena and Rascal Ricky were communicating online before he came to Colombia. Maybe she's the one he came to meet in the first place, and True Love Melissa was a plant. Ximena certainly had her bags packed and a plane ticket in hand when he called. 

I have to have a new conspiracy theory about this show now that my idea of Jon's being Lucy's bio dad has been shot down. Maybe we'll get to see his mug shots like we did with Pole's. 

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I knew what Darcey meant by cutting the steak on the bias, and I have never worked in a restaurant, babe, but I was feeling stabby by the 100th time in five minutes that she said bias, I worked in a restaurant, and this is how my kids like it. She just doesn't stop nattering. Ever. I feel sorry for her daughters, they're still young enough to take her "side" on things. Give it a few years and they'll be calling her out. Good luck, girls, you're going to need it. 

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28 minutes ago, Major Bigtime said:

That Maury clip made my day! i wonder if she sent that in as her audition tape for 90-Days?? LMAO!!

Smoking isn’t doing Angela’s teeth any favors.

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teeth are the least of her issues ;p

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2 minutes ago, Gigglepuff said:

I knew what Darcey meant by cutting the steak on the bias, and I have never worked in a restaurant, babe, but I was feeling stabby by the 100th time in five minutes that she said bias, I worked in a restaurant, and this is how my kids like it. She just doesn't stop nattering. Ever. I feel sorry for her daughters, they're still young enough to take her "side" on things. Give it a few years and they'll be calling her out. Good luck, girls, you're going to need it. 

Darcey is the kid who picks at a scab for hours then cries when it bleeds. 

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The smell of Angela's cowboy boots after one day in Nigeria, on a scale of one to ten:

                                                                                X  10

After day 3*:

                                                                                   10 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------X

* This post best viewed on a wide computer desktop screen

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1 hour ago, noveltylibrary said:

not sure where you get that! she really looks like angie jolie to me, without makeup.

I also think AJ is ugly too.

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9 hours ago, Kangatush said:

Tarik and Hazel:  Damn it Dean.  I had such hopes for you to burst your brother's bubble.  But you went too low.  You should have questioned the love, not her ability to parent.  Making a difficult choice, in the best interest of your child, does show your character.  In that respect, she's solid.  What she really wants from Tarik is the way in.

Ricky and Ximena:  OK, I think we all agree he's an idiot if he mentions the Melissa debacle, but since the genius is on a tv show, she'll find out any ways.  Which is too bad since she seems like a normal woman who inexplicably actually likes him.  If he calls himself a "gentleman" one more time while acting any way but, I' going to be sending him psychic throat punches.

Jon and Rachael:  50 or 60 fights and he somehow never started any?  Where does he live, the Thunderdome?  I'd be pushing him a lot more on why that behavior before committing to him.

Angela and Michael:  Oh Ang, I so wanted to like you, but you've killed it.  You can't have an actual conversation to save your life.  I understand, you're probably having extreme nicotine withdrawals, so go smoke and come back rational.

Jesse and Darcey:  He nailed her wanting to appear like an awesome mom.  But I'm over the two of them.  Want to place bets on which daughter will leave home, like Olivia, because she's sick of taking care of mom?

Karine and Pole:  I really don't like how he's now being painted as an abusive douche.  Idiot, yes, impatient with Karine and her lazy ass, yes, abusive?  I'm not willing to say yes.

Thunderdome!......ROTFL!!!!!!

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