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Also, I wish I had never watched that preview show that introduced the Ambassadors. As hot as Aristotle is, I can't move past his gross, filthy apartment. Matter of fact, I feel like most of the cast smells like self tanner, cheap booze and regret. 

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On 1/10/2019 at 5:22 PM, GussieK said:

Very sad. Yesterday she was on Howard Stern. He asked if she was upset at not getting acting roles any longer, and is she upset when she sees someone like Emma Stone, who is comparable in age and look, getting great roles. She said yes, and she attributes it to her not living in LA anymore. When you’re not around they don’t think of you, she says. No insight or just a sad cover up. There’s a picture of LL in today’s NY Post in Page Six, where I swear she looks like a 60-year old Joan Crawford. 

She was jobless and tragic living in LA and NY for at least a half a decade. That's just something she tells herself so she can sleep at night. When she did live in LA, the only movie part she could get was that awful movie The Canyons, opposite porn star James Deen. The reason she wasn't cast in anything is that she was uninsurable. Production companies take out insurance policies against all kinds of production problems, like delays, stars dropping out, etc. She was so renown for being unreliable and a flake, insurance companies finally just refused to insure projects to which she was attached. The Canyons only got made because the producers were able to self-insure. And, even though it was her first starring role in YEARS she was still constantly late to set or a no-show, a total disaster on set (refusing to film, etc), and almost tanked the whole movie. BTW, when I say "late to set" I don't mean the normal 15-30 minutes that would irritate your employer or get you put on probation -- I mean like 6-12 HOURS late to set which means she would cost them entire days of production which are insanely expensive, and critical when you're working on a no-budget movie like The Canyons. They used to send a car for her and of course that flipped her out and she would be abusive to the drivers or refuse to go with them, etc.

tl;dr: Linds' location has nothing to do with her getting film work, its the fact she's a disaster and completely uninsurable and therefore cannot be hired by the majority of production companies.

(PS, as an examples, Javier Bardem and Penelope Cruz live in Madrid, George Clooney lives in Italy, Julia Roberts lives in New Mexico, Bruce Willis lived in Idaho, Jensen Ackles and Jared Padalecki live in Austin, Robin Williams lived in Marin County, Fan Bing Bing lives in China; I could go on and on. Geography doesn't mean shit.)

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19 minutes ago, xtwheeler said:

She was jobless and tragic living in LA and NY for at least a half a decade. That's just something she tells herself so she can sleep at night. When she did live in LA, the only movie part she could get was that awful movie The Canyons, opposite porn star James Deen. The reason she wasn't cast in anything is that she was uninsurable. Production companies take out insurance policies against all kinds of production problems, like delays, stars dropping out, etc. She was so renown for being unreliable and a flake, insurance companies finally just refused to insure projects to which she was attached. The Canyons only got made because the producers were able to self-insure. And, even though it was her first starring role in YEARS she was still constantly late to set or a no-show, a total disaster on set (refusing to film, etc), and almost tanked the whole movie. BTW, when I say "late to set" I don't mean the normal 15-30 minutes that would irritate your employer or get you put on probation -- I mean like 6-12 HOURS late to set which means she would cost them entire days of production which are insanely expensive, and critical when you're working on a no-budget movie like The Canyons. They used to send a car for her and of course that flipped her out and she would be abusive to the drivers or refuse to go with them, etc.

tl;dr: Linds' location has nothing to do with her getting film work, its the fact she's a disaster and completely uninsurable and therefore cannot be hired by the majority of production companies.

(PS, as an examples, Javier Bardem and Penelope Cruz live in Madrid, George Clooney lives in Italy, Julia Roberts lives in New Mexico, Bruce Willis lived in Idaho, Jensen Ackles and Jared Padalecki live in Austin, Robin Williams lived in Marin County, Fan Bing Bing lives in China; I could go on and on. Geography doesn't mean shit.)

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19 hours ago, CeeBeeGee said:

Shouldn't it be whom?

Either The Body (which was the basis for the movie Stand by Me) or It.

What do the Ambassodors do?

 

It's from the book Dreamcatcher.  SSDD

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So, what I've gathered is that an "ambassador" at this hellhole basically just parties all day, swims in the sea, and brings their personal drama to the workplace in order to get a "5" on their performance appraisal for "Ability to Whore Self Out on Work Time." 

Honestly, this show is bordering on the unwatchable. 

And I guess it's because I'm not a super-rich asshole but the last thing I'd want for my thousands of dollars was some washed-up, coke-binging former actress shooting me in the face with a champagne gun. 

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I realized this about this show, as well as many shows.  It's not for me.

It's on MTV, right?  I am NOT the audience for this show.  Maybe folks in their teens and 20's might find this interesting, but it's boring to me.  

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Isn't this show considered to be similar to Vanderpump Rules. Lilo is the new Lisa Vanderpump without the successful track record.

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2 hours ago, Neurochick said:

I realized this about this show, as well as many shows.  It's not for me.

It's on MTV, right?  I am NOT the audience for this show.  Maybe folks in their teens and 20's might find this interesting, but it's boring to me.  

I would hate to be on vacation at this resort.  I would never be able to relax, after one minute, I would figure out whats going on and just worry about every damn kid

 

22 hours ago, oakville said:

Isn't this show considered to be similar to Vanderpump Rules. Lilo is the new Lisa Vanderpump without the successful track record.

I've heard people say that.  But it seems to me like more of the Aprentice.  Only because we are trying to see who can make the most money.

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On 1/25/2019 at 2:51 PM, Neurochick said:

I realized this about this show, as well as many shows.  It's not for me.

It's on MTV, right?  I am NOT the audience for this show.  Maybe folks in their teens and 20's might find this interesting, but it's boring to me.  

ITA, I'm 45 and OMG I feel like a senior citizen just watching this show much less if I visited this resort.  It seems like its meant for the Instagram Influencers to visit, take selfies, tweet it, whatever and that's how it gets buzz...its giving me Fyre Festival vibes. 

Greece is a beautiful country with one of the oldest cities in the world in it, take a once in a life time trip and visit Athens! 
 

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Isn't this show considered to be similar to Vanderpump Rules. Lilo is the new Lisa Vanderpump without the successful track record.

I've heard people say that.  But it seems to me like more of the Aprentice.  Only because we are trying to see who can make the most money.

 

True, plus if they are only going to be here a month then I guess it's not like working at Sur.  Enh the show is ok, its a fun silly distraction from real life so I will continue to watch simply for the escapism.

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On 1/24/2019 at 3:04 PM, xtwheeler said:

She was jobless and tragic living in LA and NY for at least a half a decade. That's just something she tells herself so she can sleep at night. When she did live in LA, the only movie part she could get was that awful movie The Canyons, opposite porn star James Deen. The reason she wasn't cast in anything is that she was uninsurable. Production companies take out insurance policies against all kinds of production problems, like delays, stars dropping out, etc. She was so renown for being unreliable and a flake, insurance companies finally just refused to insure projects to which she was attached. The Canyons only got made because the producers were able to self-insure. And, even though it was her first starring role in YEARS she was still constantly late to set or a no-show, a total disaster on set (refusing to film, etc), and almost tanked the whole movie. BTW, when I say "late to set" I don't mean the normal 15-30 minutes that would irritate your employer or get you put on probation -- I mean like 6-12 HOURS late to set which means she would cost them entire days of production which are insanely expensive, and critical when you're working on a no-budget movie like The Canyons. They used to send a car for her and of course that flipped her out and she would be abusive to the drivers or refuse to go with them, etc.

tl;dr: Linds' location has nothing to do with her getting film work, its the fact she's a disaster and completely uninsurable and therefore cannot be hired by the majority of production companies.

This is how I feel as well. I once read a great article detailing exactly what Lindsay was like on the set of that film, which was essentially her final chance, and it certainly didn’t endear her to me. She should be thrilled she ever even got the chance to do this mtv reality show after everything. Speaking of this show, I’m mostly through  watching it after the three episodes I’ve watched so far. It’s somewhat dull and to echo others, it feels like something more unseemingly is going on underneath it all. I’d rather watch Below Deck, which is without the potential prostitution.

The article I referenced is here https://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/13/magazine/here-is-what-happens-when-you-cast-lindsay-lohan-in-your-movie.html

It’s been said but warrants repeating, that bizarre accent is fooling exactly zero people.

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I rewound that "fist fight" scene like 10 times and every time I watched, all I could see was Jonitta raising her hand, PALM UP, and swinging it towards Gabi's face. I never really saw that it connected. 

And LOL at Lindsay's claim that she ""won't stand for violence."

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All these future Challenge contestants who keep trying to ambassador-so-hard-it-hurts? I've yet to see them do anything at that club that remotely resembles working.  But, I suspect that's not really the point of this show. In fact, I really don't know what the point of this show is. 

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Jonitta was ridiculous in the latest episode. I liked her up until this point but I just can't stand people who are always looking for a fight. 

Why am I still watching this show? Most of these people are dumb and unlikable. I think I'm only watching for Lindsay and Panos - everything they say is scripted BS but they are doing their damndest to sell it.

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I wasn’t a big fan of Gabi before, but she didn’t really do anything to Jonitta and then no one in the house took her side when she was assaulted, I felt bad for her. I’m old and never had experiences with physical fights between girls so until I started watching reality shows, I wasn’t aware how prevalent it was.  My DVR cut out before the end so what happened? 

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3 hours ago, Caseysgirl said:

I wasn’t a big fan of Gabi before, but she didn’t really do anything to Jonitta and then no one in the house took her side when she was assaulted, I felt bad for her. I’m old and never had experiences with physical fights between girls so until I started watching reality shows, I wasn’t aware how prevalent it was.  My DVR cut out before the end so what happened

Nothing.  Panos and Lindsay arrived at the house and are supposedly going to sit down and talk with Jonitta and Gabi and this is how it ended.  My guess is both girls will apologize and no one will get sent home. 

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4 hours ago, Dirtybubble said:

Nothing.  Panos and Lindsay arrived at the house and are supposedly going to sit down and talk with Jonitta and Gabi and this is how it ended.  My guess is both girls will apologize and no one will get sent home. 

The previews seemed to imply that they're sent, as Lindsay mentions two replacements and Kailah from The Real World/Challenges is shown arriving.  Probably a fake out.

Anyone how are the ratings are doing? It doesn't seem like there's a lot of buzz around the show and MTV not promoting it much of late either.

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The fact that Jonitta’s story made HERSELF  the dog and not the person was highly amusing.

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3 hours ago, snarts said:

The previews seemed to imply that they're sent, as Lindsay mentions two replacements and Kailah from The Real World/Challenges is shown arriving.  Probably a fake out.

Anyone how are the ratings are doing? It doesn't seem like there's a lot of buzz around the show and MTV not promoting it much of late either.

I doubt the ratings are good. They are moving the show from Tuesday at 8 to Monday at 10.. seems like a downgrade out of a prime time slot.

2 hours ago, bosawks said:

The fact that Jonitta’s story made HERSELF  the dog and not the person was highly amusing.

I thought that was hilarious too. Honey you are comparing yourself to an animal that has no ability to reason and in your example is prone to violent attacks.. this doesn’t help your argument. 

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Kailah's coming?  Why?  She's not a ratings draw.  But since this appears to be a grooming show for "yacht life", maybe Kailah is looking for a new money flow.  She sure isn't raking it in by doing repeated seasons of The Challenge!

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19 hours ago, Gothish520 said:

Jonitta was ridiculous in the latest episode. I liked her up until this point but I just can't stand people who are always looking for a fight. 

I am utterly mortified for Jonitta. Jesus Christ. You full-on HIT someone in the FACE because...they gently touched you? After you specifically invited them to? ("Go on, touch me again.") No, wait--it was because she...kissed someone on both cheeks? Which, as she pointed out, is customary in Greece?

Fucking seriously?

Her posturing and defensiveness to Panos was fucking RIDICULOUS. Fire her ass, Panos. No, both sides are not to blame. Jonitta fully and solely owns this. (And my God, if I have to hear the word "thirsty" again, much less 10 or 20 times, I'm going to vomit on Jonitta's bed. She came off very badly in this episode.)

12 hours ago, Caseysgirl said:

I wasn’t a big fan of Gabi before, but she didn’t really do anything to Jonitta and then no one in the house took her side when she was assaulted, I felt bad for her. 

Yeah, I'm no Gabi fan but the Cool Kids powwow afterward was shitty. Stop tittering over the drama with Jonitta. She acted badly. Someone should've gone out to Gabi.

4 hours ago, bosawks said:

The fact that Jonitta’s story made HERSELF  the dog and not the person was highly amusing.

Holy shit, I was dying at that. WHY ARE YOU CALLING YOURSELF A PITBULL. Pitbulls have an excuse. You do not.

And who the HELL is Brent to criticize another for being defensive and refusing to apologize? Both he and Jonitta should've been fired by now.

Disgusted and disappointed with Jonitta. 

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Comparing herself to a dog was actually apt because she was acting like a dog with a bone over this guy.  If anyone was behaving pathetic and “thirsty” it was Jonitta.. girl relax and take a deep breath. You seriously are that worked up over some dude you literally just met. Gabi merely greeted him.. I can’t imagine what she would do if she was actually in a relationship with the guy. Future suitors beware.

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43 minutes ago, CeeBeeGee said:

I am utterly mortified for Jonitta. Jesus Christ. You full-on HIT someone in the FACE because...they gently touched you? After you specifically invited them to? ("Go on, touch me again.") No, wait--it was because she...kissed someone on both cheeks? Which, as she pointed out, is customary in Greece?

Fucking seriously?

Her posturing and defensiveness to Panos was fucking RIDICULOUS. Fire her ass, Panos. No, both sides are not to blame. Jonitta fully and solely owns this. (And my God, if I have to hear the word "thirsty" again, much less 10 or 20 times, I'm going to vomit on Jonitta's bed. She came off very badly in this episode.)

Yeah, I'm no Gabi fan but the Cool Kids powwow afterward was shitty. Stop tittering over the drama with Jonitta. She acted badly. Someone should've gone out to Gabi.

Holy shit, I was dying at that. WHY ARE YOU CALLING YOURSELF A PITBULL. Pitbulls have an excuse. You do not.

And who the HELL is Brent to criticize another for being defensive and refusing to apologize? Both he and Jonitta should've been fired by now.

Disgusted and disappointed with Jonitta. 

Brent is not even entertaining in a trainwreck kind of way. He is completely full of himself for no good reason. Why anyone would want to go on TV and present themselves in that unflattering a light is beyond me.

Didn't he say he was overweight and picked on as a kid? So, instead of letting that kind of trauma turn him into a better, more compassionate person, Brent chose to go in the opposite direction and become a full-on douchenozzle.  He was hurt that Sara was talking to Billy and like a little boy he decided to insult every female in the house. Then he apologizes and asks Sara to be his girlfriend. And the obviously brimming with self-confidence and pride Sara goes along with it. Good, get them both off the market so no one else has to deal with them.

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Did they purposely hire every Ambassador with a sad story of being poor or ill or bullied or from another country, because every time these entitled kids tell their story, that’s what we hear.  Meanwhile, if I had enough money to go to one of these places, I do not want a cabana full of young people hanging all over me. Brent is a mental case. One minute he’s falling all over Sara planning their future together; the next minute he’s gaga over a model and the next minute he’s like, we’re through. ADD much?  How is Pano’s able to get any work done when all he does as spy on his employees - yikes! And what EXACTLY are they all learning from Lindsay with this wonderful opportunity.

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I knew that nobody was going home, no one will ever go home on this show.  How can they, and why should they?  Look at who they're working for?  How many chances has Lindsay Lohan had?  I mean MTV gave her a reality show.

How can you send someone home for fighting when:

No one was ever sent home for fighting on the later seasons of The Real World. 

MTV has a show called "Made in Staten Island" which is about people getting into fights/getting sent to jail, etc.

They work for Lindsay Lohan who really can't judge anybody's behavior IMO.

This show is nonsense and not to be taken seriously.  

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Yeah, I had hopes for this show shining a spotlight on how one runs a money-laundering operation but it's turned out to be The Real World: Mykonos and...I'm out. 

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I could just watch a Panos show 😂 He’s just a straight shooter no bullshit says what he means I love it 

The Mike vs May seems like it’s just made for tv . He’s almost laughing while he “yells” at her about the fuckin dishes And if it’s not for the show it’s cruel that he’s zoned in on the weakest person. Kinda dickish. Especially after Lindsey and Panos said be team.  Make a damn schedule for cleaning if it’s a problem . LL Beach House is a show of manufactured drama

These 20 somethings are idiots 

Brent & Sara 0-100 😂

Seems like every reality ‘Tv participant tries to be the standout , craziest so they can somehow get Snooki rich as a realty “star”⭐️

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On 1/19/2019 at 9:15 PM, sasha206 said:

I'm not saying that she looks great but Lindsay does look about 32.

What age are the commemorators putting her

I don’t know what Lindsey did to her face but she looks awful. Especially this weeks ep it seemed more noticeable.  If you compare the other Mean Girls : Rachel Mcadams , Amanda Seyfried, Lacy Chabert ( ignore my sp of the names) . Lindsey hasn’t aged well with the smoking , drugs & alcohol. Those actresses who are i assume about LL’s age ( not googling it) look pretty damn good

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1 hour ago, DNR said:

I don’t know what Lindsey did to her face but she looks awful. Especially this weeks ep it seemed more noticeable.  If you compare the other Mean Girls : Rachel Mcadams , Amanda Seyfried, Lacy Chabert ( ignore my sp of the names) . Lindsey hasn’t aged well with the smoking , drugs & alcohol. Those actresses who are i assume about LL’s age ( not googling it) look pretty damn good

For some reason, what you quoted was attributed to me (this forum is funky). My comment was this:  "To me, she looks like a very skinny 50 year-old that has plumped her face with fillers.  I look fresher than her and I'm 51."

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Not only does no one go home but they still add 2 more people?!  Uh-oh this show is starting to reek of desperation.  I see this being a 1 season wonder. 

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So Mike wasn’t getting enough attention being bisexual and wanting to screw both  a man who vowed to be faithful to his partner and a woman, now he starts screaming at someone because the dishes weren’t done? It looked like NO ONE was doing the dishes. Don’t worry, Mike, Brent has already won douchiest bro in the house & Lindsey doesn’t want anyone taking her shine.

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BRAVO needs to get on hiring Panos.

Just keep on doubling down on the ridiculousness Panos, I appreciate you!

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"This wine is s**t."

I LOVE Panos. And I must thank him for rewarding my loyalty to this crazy-ass show - well HELLO there, Kyle!  ;)

Mike came off like an idiot, and Sara and Jonitta acted like giggling schoolgirls. Brent is a douche, but I don't really blame him for being pissed at those two and their pre-teen antics. And is it just me, or is Sara really not all that? 

Gabi, you get that, girl!

Already over Kailah - I thought she was cool for about five minutes. Yeah, let's see how badmouthing the star of the show helps your "career" next week.

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2 hours ago, Gothish520 said:

Already over Kailah - I thought she was cool for about five minutes. Yeah, let's see how badmouthing the star of the show helps your "career" next wee

😂 And excuse me Kailah , you’ve been in what is it? The Challenge? Ms. Lindsay Lohan starred in MEAN GIRLS, only one of the best movies ever made! Check Yo self!

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Kailah always loves to downtalk women who have had more success than her.  IDK why she thinks it makes HER look better, but she'll learn.  Hopefully.

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We had some drinks out and watched the next three shows. I agree with the comments that the hosts must smell like tanner, axe, and regret. 

This is obviously a real club/beach bar. Did they film on top of that while the operation went on? What is the location usually, because the setting looks great.  What is the actual location/operation? 

Lindsey seemed to fly between understanding and controlling-- and wigging out high. Is she still using, or was it an act? Who was actually running the place? Is it still open?

I googled the island, which looks awesome, and I think the runway is only 3k foot. So you need to catch a regional from the mainland?

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On 2/5/2019 at 9:49 AM, DNR said:

I could just watch a Panos show 😂 He’s just a straight shooter no bullshit says what he means I love it 

I love Panos.  He just doesn't give a shit and I appreciate that he calls them out when they start to get aggressive towards him.  That behavior is way too normalized amongst several of them.  

That being said, I can't take him and Lindsay seriously when they say they're trying to build a brand and they want drama-free Ambassadors who won't start shit or get out of hand when they get mad, but then they bring on Kailah of all people.  KAILAH!!!!!!!

breakfast club drake GIF by REVOLT TV
 

GTFOH!

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Ok, so the business 'geniuses' decide it's a great idea to send whathisname to go see grandma and take along two co-workers?  They'll get a feel for the 'real' Greece?  That beach club is not at all like what the 'real' anything is.  It's a beach club, not the Sistine Chapel, stop trying to make it more than it is.  It's a club, for drinking, partying, on a beach.  (I've got this on because too lazy to turn the channel).

Then Lindsey swoops in on the crew while they're out, supposedly to promote the club.  Instead, they're drunk.  Lindsey chastises them?  I'm surprised lightening didn't come and at least scorch the ends of her hair.  

If I took a drink every time she's said it's my name, or my reputation, or my brand, yeah I'd be probably ready for AA now.

It's like MTV was going for Vanderpump Rules/The Hills/Laguna Beach goes to Greece.  What they got is MTV ratings go to shit.

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11 hours ago, hoosier80 said:

If I took a drink every time she's said it's my name, or my reputation, or my brand, yeah I'd be probably ready for AA now.

It's like MTV was going for Vanderpump Rules/The Hills/Laguna Beach goes to Greece.  What they got is MTV ratings go to shit.

Being an alcoholic doesn't have anything to do with how much you drink, it's what it does to you.  The AA comment makes no sense to me.

I thought the ratings were great for this show.  Maybe people are wising up.

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Jules just seems like such a Colorado stoner girl. She needs to be working in Vail or Aspen, not Mykonos. I like her, she just doesn’t belong in this group of wanna-bes and doesn’t have the energy to bring the drama MTV is surely looking for.

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This latest episode just kind of meandered. None of the drama from last ep was even addressed, except for Sara mentioning being "homeless". No resolution to the Mike/Maya dish situation (apologies, a household chore schedule), no mention of how the Sara/Brent situation played out. Drama is introduced and then cut off with no explanations. I'm not sure who I loathe more now, Sara or Brent. Or Kailah. Or Mike. So many to choose from!

If the ambassadors don't have a client in a cabana, what the heck do they do all day? It looks to me like they are mostly standing around looking confused. Maybe Lindsay and Panos could save some money on staff by having the ambassadors wipe down tables and serve the regular folks when no VIP clients are around. At least they wouldn't be standing there looking like they are waiting for a bus.

On 2/12/2019 at 12:23 AM, hoosier80 said:

Ok, so the business 'geniuses' decide it's a great idea to send whathisname to go see grandma and take along two co-workers?  They'll get a feel for the 'real' Greece?  That beach club is not at all like what the 'real' anything is.  It's a beach club, not the Sistine Chapel, stop trying to make it more than it is.  It's a club, for drinking, partying, on a beach.  (I've got this on because too lazy to turn the channel).

Well, that was the point, that the club isn't reality and visiting a Greek family would show them a bit of the real Greece.

They really hammered home the fact that Alex's Grandma was not cool with him being gay, didn't they? I feel bad for anyone who feels the need to hide who they are from their loved ones - but that just really highlighted Grandma's homophobia. Maybe that was the point? I suppose the point could also be that it isn't necessarily beneficial to come out to everyone you know.

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On 2/6/2019 at 3:38 PM, Caseysgirl said:

So Mike wasn’t getting enough attention being bisexual and wanting to screw both  a man who vowed to be faithful to his partner and a woman, now he starts screaming at someone because the dishes weren’t done? It looked like NO ONE was doing the dishes. Don’t worry, Mike, Brent has already won douchiest bro in the house & Lindsey doesn’t want anyone taking her shine.

I never understand why shows like this don't hire a housekeeper.  What does anyone learn from having to do dishes and laundry, especially when you have such different people living together.  We are not talking one or two people.  You put 10 people in one house and have to teach slobs to clean up after themselves.  That alone will never let me be on shows like this.

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On 2/5/2019 at 1:41 PM, DNR said:

I don’t know what Lindsey did to her face but she looks awful. Especially this weeks ep it seemed more noticeable.  If you compare the other Mean Girls : Rachel Mcadams , Amanda Seyfried, Lacy Chabert ( ignore my sp of the names) . Lindsey hasn’t aged well with the smoking , drugs & alcohol. Those actresses who are i assume about LL’s age ( not googling it) look pretty damn good

I agree and all of those actresses are older than Lindsay - Rachel is actually 40!

On 2/12/2019 at 11:42 AM, lgprimes said:

Jules just seems like such a Colorado stoner girl. She needs to be working in Vail or Aspen, not Mykonos. I like her, she just doesn’t belong in this group of wanna-bes and doesn’t have the energy to bring the drama MTV is surely looking for.

She’s so boring I keep forgetting she’s even there. She should’ve left with May.

14 hours ago, GordonGartrelle said:

I never understand why shows like this don't hire a housekeeper.  What does anyone learn from having to do dishes and laundry, especially when you have such different people living together.  We are not talking one or two people.  You put 10 people in one house and have to teach slobs to clean up after themselves. 

That has always been a big source of drama on reality shows with people living together, that’s why they don’t just hire housekeeping.

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Wow - did Brent read a manual on how to remain relevant as a reality star? We’ve seen him pull out every trope of the genre - trying to be the best, calling the girls ugly, falling in love with a castmate,breaking up and becoming violent, trying to romance a client, claiming to have been fat and bullied as a child and now a dead Grandma. We get it, Brent- you don’t want to be one and done.  You aren’t generically handsome enough for the Bachelor or rich enough for Bravo so I guess we’ll see you on the Challenge.

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