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35 minutes ago, Stan39 said:

Exactly. Stuff happens. As a LEADER Kristin should be the way reassuring her staff so that they don’t get upset and the bug gets fixed. Stuff happens. If you want to FIX it, calm the F down, sort things out, and if someone really screws up deal with it. There’s nothing productive about Kristin freaking out like that. I’ve “messed up” at work and already feel awful, my good managers reassure me that I’m a good worker and stuff isn’t my fault. Then we figure out a solution. 

Yup. And everyone who commented about her walking in and yelling was unprofessional. And she closed the door like after she did most of her yelling. I’m sure people heard her. Maybe not though. Who knows. But nothing about her storming in proved good leader and business owner to me.

It was good drama for the show. It was in previews all the way from the start of this show they were showing that moment, so yeah. Good for a tv drama.

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I agree with everyone else. Kristen, at her core, is not a good leader. She's not a good boss and she's not a great CEO. Yelling at your employee's is unprofessional and tbh, I probably would have rolled my eyes too. Obviously Shannon screwed up, but if you've been holding her hand for an entire year, then it's on you to fire her, replace her, or get a professional trainer in there to shape her up. 

Britt didn't screw up, the website bugged---like they do---and fixed it quickly. She is, without a doubt, the most professional out of the entire bunch. I actually liked Reagan in this episode and I was kinda eh on her before---she did her job and stayed out of the mess. Good for her. 

Britt's boyfriend needs to go, why she's wasting her time is beyond me. She'll regret and resent him later on, I guarantee it. 

This was my favorite Jay episode and I didn't really love him at the beginning. 

At the end of the day, Kristen cares too much about what people think of her. "This all comes back on me..." "It makes me look bad..." No one cares. Glitches happen. If you cared about your store opening you would have had a real soft opening (not a party) and a few online trial runs to ensure everything was priced appropriately. Britt should have called to confirm the food as well, but she clearly was wearing too many hats so I'll give her a pass on that one. 

But seriously, Kristen should have been at the store from the moment it opened to the moment it closed. She should have opened the door herself and welcomed everyone in. She should have been there to answer questions about the product, walk around, be visible and close up. You wanna disappear and demo a house? Okay, do that day 2. 

The fact that this show is getting a Season 2 doesn't surprise me. Kristen has a fan base and this show does have drama. 

But, if her website is half sold out imagine what her store looks like? EEK! I doubt it'll last. 

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16 minutes ago, Loves2Dance said:

But, if her website is half sold out imagine what her store looks like? EEK! I doubt it'll last. 

And hopefully all the behind-the-scenes meltdowns are being captured for next season.

I don't know much about management, but I think Kristen is trying to be a friend and a boss, and it's not working real well.

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49 minutes ago, Loves2Dance said:

I agree with everyone else. Kristen, at her core, is not a good leader. She's not a good boss and she's not a great CEO. Yelling at your employee's is unprofessional and tbh, I probably would have rolled my eyes too. Obviously Shannon screwed up, but if you've been holding her hand for an entire year, then it's on you to fire her, replace her, or get a professional trainer in there to shape her up. 

Britt didn't screw up, the website bugged---like they do---and fixed it quickly. She is, without a doubt, the most professional out of the entire bunch. I actually liked Reagan in this episode and I was kinda eh on her before---she did her job and stayed out of the mess. Good for her. 

Britt's boyfriend needs to go, why she's wasting her time is beyond me. She'll regret and resent him later on, I guarantee it. 

This was my favorite Jay episode and I didn't really love him at the beginning. 

At the end of the day, Kristen cares too much about what people think of her. "This all comes back on me..." "It makes me look bad..." No one cares. Glitches happen. If you cared about your store opening you would have had a real soft opening (not a party) and a few online trial runs to ensure everything was priced appropriately. Britt should have called to confirm the food as well, but she clearly was wearing too many hats so I'll give her a pass on that one. 

But seriously, Kristen should have been at the store from the moment it opened to the moment it closed. She should have opened the door herself and welcomed everyone in. She should have been there to answer questions about the product, walk around, be visible and close up. You wanna disappear and demo a house? Okay, do that day 2. 

The fact that this show is getting a Season 2 doesn't surprise me. Kristen has a fan base and this show does have drama. 

But, if her website is half sold out imagine what her store looks like? EEK! I doubt it'll last. 

It didn’t even dawn on me that she neither opened nor closed her own store opening until I read it on here. Lol. I think I’ve said it on here before, but why after shows like Shark Tank have proven successful do networks think we want to watch people be bad at their jobs? Or promote bad ideas? Or suggest you can survive in business focusing on petty BS? If you want to show personal life “drama” that’s fine. But one of my biggest pet peeves is watching people being awful/unprofessional/barely competent at work and then be rewarded with more TV time or a life lesson about “coming together as a family”. I’d much rather see the inner workings of a real startup business trying to make it on merit, dealing with the REAL stresses of creating something that may not make money. It’s just jarring watching people pretend to run a business when anybody watching knows that’s not how you run a business. 

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2 hours ago, tobeannounced said:

And hopefully all the behind-the-scenes meltdowns are being captured for next season.

I don't know much about management, but I think Kristen is trying to be a friend and a boss, and it's not working real well.

I think this is also a big problem. Like I said earlier in the thread, I would never drink with any of my employees, or go on vacation with them (not that I'm currently the boss of anyone, ha). I think a line needs to be drawn. It's clear the girls see Kristin as a friend and as such, don't really respect her as an authority. Do we really think Kristin would fire any of them as long as they're friends and, even more, a cast member on their reality show?

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4 hours ago, Loves2Dance said:

At the end of the day, Kristen cares too much about what people think of her. "This all comes back on me..." "It makes me look bad..." No one cares.

I think what people think and being a big success is her motivation in life.  She doesn't really need the money as she is financially well off through marrying Jay and the gigs she gets being Kristin Cavallari.  She wants public success: to be thought of as a successful businesswoman with a successful lifestyle and jewelry brand, successful store, bestselling cookbook, hit reality show centered around her, etc.  Ultimately, she is still competing with Lauren Conrad.   

So her money is her money, so she can walk out and not stay married because she is dependent on Jay for money and his money is their money.  Sounds fair to me. <<sarcasm>>

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10 minutes ago, Bazinga said:

I think what people think and being a big success is her motivation in life.  She doesn't really need the money as she is financially well off through marrying Jay and the gigs she gets being Kristin Cavallari.  She wants to be thought of as a successful businesswoman with a successful lifestyle and jewelry brand, successful store, bestselling cookbook, etc.  Ultimately, she is still competing with Lauren Conrad.   

So her money is her money, so she can walk out and not stay married because she is dependent on Jay for money and his money is their money.  Sounds fair to me. 

I get that. But with all her gigs, she would have her own money  she doesn’t need this store,- I still think opening the store was a big mistake. From my understanding the business was doing good online but how she has a store that I agree with others looked way too empty on opening day and her website has hardly anything in stock and that doesn’t look good.

And that Instagram I posted she was all “I knew the show would increase the sales but I didn’t expect this” which.. I’m sorry but she should have anticipated higher volumes due to her show. It just seems not great.

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12 minutes ago, WhosThatGirl said:

she doesn’t need this store

Agreed she doesn't need the store.  Like we both agree, she has money, brick and mortar stores are not the way to go, and the size of that place for the amount of inventory will make it an albatross.  But online success is one thing, having a STORE!!! is another.  Kristin wants to look successful to others, that is my point.  She wants to top Lauren and/or doing things Lauren has not done.  She is competing with Lauren Conrad, either consciously or subconsciously. 

Prediction: at some point, she will open a restaurant.  That will be the next big "success" for her.

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1 minute ago, Bazinga said:

Agreed she doesn't need the store.  Like we both agree, she has money and brick and mortar stores are not the way to go, anyway.  But online success is one thing, having a STORE!!! is another.  Kristin wants to look successful to others, that is my point.  She wants to top Lauren and/or doing things Lauren has not done.  Prediction: at some point, she will open a restaurant.  That will be the next big "success" for her.

That sounds like a good prediction. Also I agree about the Lauren Conrad thing. I think she is trying to surpass Lauren but I feel like as much as their business are similar, they seem very different, at least to me. I feel like Lauren’s market has always been fashion she hasn’t ventured anywhere. Kristen seems to want to do anything and everything, which yeah sounds great but also makes her items seem kind of random. 

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23 minutes ago, Bazinga said:

 

So her money is her money, so she can walk out and not stay married because she is dependent on Jay for money and his money is their money.  Sounds fair to me. 

Wait, what? How is this fair?

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1 minute ago, Bazinga said:

In context, I was being sarcastic.  It's totally not.

Lol. Ok. That’s what I thought but couldn’t tell. 

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51 minutes ago, Bazinga said:

I think what people think and being a big success is her motivation in life.  She doesn't really need the money as she is financially well off through marrying Jay and the gigs she gets being Kristin Cavallari.  She wants public success: to be thought of as a successful businesswoman with a successful lifestyle and jewelry brand, successful store, bestselling cookbook, hit reality show centered around her, etc.  Ultimately, she is still competing with Lauren Conrad.   

So her money is her money, so she can walk out and not stay married because she is dependent on Jay for money and his money is their money.  Sounds fair to me. <<sarcasm>>

And losing, so miserably, losing. 

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I’ve always felt the “store” was really more an office and storage place first. As some have noted it’s not in the best shopping area and they did start the series with them moving out of her home. I don’t know if Jay is a business genius, but I’m sure they have advisors giving them tips. For instance Kelly is a stylist, so she may be giving advice on jewelry trends. Maybe some of Kelly’s payment was a spot on the show. I actually am impressed with some of the things Kristin has done. Compare her to other LB/Hills cast and she’s accomplished some decent things. Now of course LC did very well, but she had an air of success about her, so it was expected. Kristin just always seemed to be destined as the party girl. So I’m impressed by her success. Not so much the vaccine issue though!

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Just now, Bblack3 said:

I’ve always felt the “store” was really more an office and storage place first. As some have noted it’s not in the best shopping area and they did start the series with them moving out of her home. I don’t know if Jay is a business genius, but I’m sure they have advisors giving them tips. For instance Kelly is a stylist, so she may be giving advice on jewelry trends. Maybe some of Kelly’s payment was a spot on the show. I actually am impressed with some of the things Kristin has done. Compare her to other LB/Hills cast and she’s accomplished some decent things. Now of course LC did very well, but she had an air of success about her, so it was expected. Kristin just always seemed to be destined as the party girl. So I’m impressed by her success. Not so much the vaccine issue though!

Oh man, I was just about to comment on my theory that Kristin isn't driven by competition with Lauren, but more competition with herself and the low expectations people have had for her. She went from party girl villain on reality TV to people thinking had reached her potential when a rich NFL player to put a ring on it. I think Kristin feels like she has more to offer and feels the pressure of proving all of the naysayers wrong. I think feeling like a fuck up is probably too reminiscent of what the opinions of her were back in her Laguna Beach days. I think she's found some humble success in her ventures and that's great, but I still can't understand the rationale in opening a brick and mortar store in this day and age. With the media access she has to promote her site, it just doesn't make sense to not use her name to land those media opportunities and market the hell out of the online business. Not having to worry about rent, utilities and in-store clerk salaries is all money that stays in her pocket or can be re-invested into her business.

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1 hour ago, Bblack3 said:

I’ve always felt the “store” was really more an office and storage place first. As some have noted it’s not in the best shopping area and they did start the series with them moving out of her home. I don’t know if Jay is a business genius, but I’m sure they have advisors giving them tips. For instance Kelly is a stylist, so she may be giving advice on jewelry trends. Maybe some of Kelly’s payment was a spot on the show. I actually am impressed with some of the things Kristin has done. Compare her to other LB/Hills cast and she’s accomplished some decent things. Now of course LC did very well, but she had an air of success about her, so it was expected. Kristin just always seemed to be destined as the party girl. So I’m impressed by her success. Not so much the vaccine issue though!

That's how I feel too. The online business was doing well and growing, and they needed to get out of the house, so they found this space that also had a store front and thought, "Why not?"

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1 hour ago, tobeannounced said:

That's how I feel too. The online business was doing well and growing, and they needed to get out of the house, so they found this space that also had a store front and thought, "Why not?"

Yeah I said this thing too. Kristen probably realized she needed more space to House the people working for her and Jay was probably not loving having an open house with a revolving door of people in it and then Kristen was like “wait I want a store!”

I just don’t see her being able to do that in this capacity. Like someone else said I don’t think she’s ever worked in retail and doesn’t know the in and outs. Again as I said a few pages back, I think the store will probably do fine as long as this show goes on and it’s featured. Then again when the show is off for the season, who knows how it will do. 

Also im not surprised it got a second season. The network has a relationship with Kristen, she works their Oscar pre shows(and other award shows I think too, e takes up like three hours for every award show, I think for the odcars they take up five or four!) and they do like a good reality show.

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I wonder if the Casaamigos tequila (which Clooney and Gerber (and others? have ties  to they sold for a Billion- what I have done wrong with my life ) with soda and jalapeño will start being a thing. It looked so good in that glass. 

When Brittany and gross man were talking on their hike and she was so beautiful and refreshed I gagged when the camera panned to him. I like her!  I don’t care if she ends up with a not so hot guy but damn she could do so much better than him!  I hate to hear they’re still together.   He’s a total d bag who I think views himself introspective when the reality is he’s a horrible bore and not very kind. 

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4 hours ago, Bblack3 said:

I’ve always felt the “store” was really more an office and storage place first. As some have noted it’s not in the best shopping area and they did start the series with them moving out of her home. 

This. It was a way to get merchandise out of their home.  Also, the store provides fodder for the show and the lease is covered by the E! money.  

In terms of retail success, Kristin's had a shoe line with Chinese Laundry for many years, carried by good retailers like Nordstrom.  I notice that they're also now carrying her jewelry line, so she's doing something right.

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12 hours ago, KnoxForPres said:

I wonder if the Casaamigos tequila (which Clooney and Gerber (and others? have ties  to they sold for a Billion- what I have done wrong with my life ) with soda and jalapeño will start being a thing. It looked so good in that glass. 

Oh it’s been a thing for several years now, even though Clooney & Gerber have since sold their shares of the business((and made major bank)). It’s a REALLY, surprisingly good and smooth tequila. Lots of bars stock it and many bartenders love it; in fact, I sorta got hooked on it thanks to several bartenders recommending it.

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The only reason to have an actual store is to have a location for filming. If it was an office, they wouldn’t have the products on display as much. It’s just one big infomercial. 

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On 8/29/2018 at 9:54 AM, prettybird said:

The only reason to have an actual store is to have a location for filming. If it was an office, they wouldn’t have the products on display as much. It’s just one big infomercial. 

That’s a pretty shitty infomercial. 

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On ‎8‎/‎26‎/‎2018 at 1:28 PM, Sun-Bun said:

Basic brunette #2 Kelly must be doing okay if she’s living in a house in that neighborhood, unless the show rented it for her. I can see why she’s single though; seems like she has all the sexual naivety of a tween.

Basic brunette #1’s boyfriend is just gross all around. The smugness just reeks from him; probably just because he literally looks smelly. Maybe he has those almighty “connections” that wannabes like her enjoy. I’m guessing at the very least he probably has good weed connections.

Shannon is beyond annoying and definitely thinks she’s way hotter than she really is. Probably swans around town acting like a VIP now; she seems like the type who gets high on her own fumes. Her boyfriend is your typical Nashville basic bro singing lame country tunes; you see young douches just like him alllll over his native habitat of Midtown.

Wirth comes from family money; his dad is the head of HCA. He went to college on a football scholarship and appears to be your typical young trust funder who does odd jobs as a male model/trainer and is otherwise just the main Manbun about town. 

SHUT  UP!!! MANBUN about town?!?!? I screamed w laughter & swallowed my gum! GENIUS!

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10 hours ago, DrSparkles said:

SHUT  UP!!! MANBUN about town?!?!? I screamed w laughter & swallowed my gum! GENIUS!

Thank you kindly! And I actually *finally* had a run-in with the MANBUN about town at a Halloween event here, no less. He was all painted up, biceps bulging, and posing for selfies with gaggles of gals; he seemed like a nice enough dude and all, but nothing more than that.

Say something nice time: as boring and basic as this lame show’s equally lame cast is, I dare say the cast of “Southern Charm Savannah” is even more sad/pathetic than this bunch.

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On ‎11‎/‎6‎/‎2018 at 12:25 AM, Sun-Bun said:

Thank you kindly! And I actually *finally* had a run-in with the MANBUN about town at a Halloween event here, no less. He was all painted up, biceps bulging, and posing for selfies with gaggles of gals; he seemed like a nice enough dude and all, but nothing more than that.

Say something nice time: as boring and basic as this lame show’s equally lame cast is, I dare say the cast of “Southern Charm Savannah” is even more sad/pathetic than this bunch.

Woah.

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On 8/9/2018 at 6:18 AM, Jaclyn88 said:

Why after all these episodes does the Canadian not have a name? You'd think they'd mention it at least one time .

Like 'Big' from Sex and the city.

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On 8/20/2018 at 12:45 PM, EarlGreyTea said:

 Having Jenny McCarthy on the show reminded me that Kristin and Jay are anti-vaxxers. Therefore I can't fully respect either of them.

Why does no one on this show wear a seatbelt?

I work in healthcare.  As in with medicine and science, and not with herbs and chanting circles.  Anti-vaxxers shit me like you wouldn't believe.  Ironic how Kristen herself was once vaccinated. 

 

The seatbelt thing bugs me too.  Oh, and I have half a heart attack when they use their phones and use SCREENTIME conversations Whilst They Are DRIVING!!!  Sorry, I can't calm myself down with that.  It's up there with leaving your kids in the car on a hot day.  And NOT vaccinating your kids!!!  ARGH!!!

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On 8/20/2018 at 10:08 PM, Bazinga said:

I wasn't going to comment on this show.  I swear I wasn't but... 

Obviously Kristin is over her head.  Kristin only has this store because she is famous and has the bankroll (mostly Jay's, I assume) to fund this endeavor; it is not based on merit.  She is terrible at setting up a chain of command, which causes all of their problems.  Kristin just strolls in to complain about how bad others are doing.  Maybe being there all the time, actually supervising, would be something a "boss CEO" would do in order to get things done the way you want in the first place instead of waiting for others to screw up and then complaining.  ETA, she seemed to have no clue how to figure out the shipping on other types of products.  Shouldn't she have known how to handle that while handing it off to someone else?  Shouldn't there be someone in charge of the online sales presence and shipping and not let it fall to Brittainy, who is the store manager? 

That store???  A gigantic store to sell stuff like earrings, tongs, and a smattering of clothes, all of which you can buy online.  Why????   There is so little inventory in that gigantic space.  How much must they have to (over)charge just to pay the rent?   

This whole show is just designed to promote the store.  One big infomercial disguised as a reality show.  Please may it fail. 

Hate that her fame allows her to have free promotion and opportunities to promote the store on social media, TV, and radio.  

I was actively rooting for her cookbook to not make the bestsellers list, but knew it would, as if it didn't, that would not make it on air.  Why would anyone want a Kristin Cavallari cookbook, especially sight unseen?  Is she somehow known for cooking?  Why would anyone pay for this when you can Google recipes for free?  Do I dare look up reviews to find out if it is actually good? 

Above people are down on the Canadian but he is way better then Kelly, who thinks she is all that and certainly is not.  

I didn't like Gurney's song.  That won a songwriting contest?  It seemed so generic and dull. 

One episode to go.  Will this get a season 2?  Why am I watching, as I don't like Kristen, as she is full of herself and self-important, Jay is an (intentional?) bore, as in a dull, uncongenial person, the others are irrelevant, uninteresting, and unlikable?  But I hate watched every single episode of 'Life of Kylie' and felt the same way about that show. 

^^^^^^ Every single thing you said ^^^^^^

 

Because of social media and online businesses, people who would never have been successful before the year 2000 are making lots of money.  There used to be a time when you needed years of business studies and having to put in 100+ hours a week to see some kind of profit.  Now someone with zero business experience can do it.

 

 

On 8/21/2018 at 12:52 AM, Stan39 said:

I’ve heard other (real) authors talk about the backroom stuff that happens to get on the NYT best seller list. Unfortunately, the list is not merit based or talent-based. I’m sure a deal was worked out somewhere to get Kristen enough pre-orders to make the list.

Didn't Paris Hilton and the Kardashians have some best sellers?  That should tell us something.  You could write something like Gone Girl or The Da Vinci Code, or you can do whatever the eff these clowns are doing. 

 

On 8/21/2018 at 1:27 AM, Stan39 said:

It feels like "John Stone" is a character an actor is playing as "Worst Boyfriend". Seriously, everything he is, does, and says is the opposite of anything a decent person would do. And what's with his "2.5 week tour"? Is that even a thing? Don't people tour for months on end? 7 countries in 2.5 weeks? Where is he playing? I can't even imagine him getting gigs in 7 states let alone 7 countries. 

On 8/27/2018 at 1:03 PM, EarlGreyTea said:

Could Jon have looked like any more of a douche in that bun? He has the most punchable face on TV. I'm glad his mom took Brittainy's side. He is such a baby. He couldn't have supported her for a few hours by eating some canapes and standing around? My God. On the flip side, Jay was supportive by pushing Kristin to thank people and getting everyone to shut up so they could hear her. And he looked great in his jacket.

 

I find him repulsive with no redeeming qualities.  I think Britt said that he's an only child.  It's effing wankers like him, who give other only children a bad name and the "Oh, you must be soooooooooooooo spoilt" bullshit.  He's so gross.  It doesn't matter how much older he is.  I've met 18-20-year-olds who are SO much more mature than him, and have their shit together. 

 

On 8/21/2018 at 1:28 PM, Sun-Bun said:

That’s what’s so pathetic about this store—-it’s NOT in a good location. It’s NOT a destination; there’s zero cool vibe in this store, as it’s literally just a hollow, cave-like shrine to KC and her retail whims. It’s located several streets around the corner from a stylish area of town, but on the far end/seedy backside of this area. Not a pretty or desirable area at all. In fact the shop is right next to a former thuggy nightclub that got shut down a year ago due to multiple violent incidents that went down there...makes her overpriced basic white girl boutique seem all the more random. And it’s wayyyyy too big of a space for the small amount of haphazard and overpriced little items she has in there. I’ll be shocked if it lasts over a year there...of course her grumpy hubby will probably keep paying the rent just to keep her happy.

 

I caved and went to their website.  What piles of overpriced bullshit!!!!  You can get much better-quality jewellery for 10th of the price at sites like aliexpress or blingjewelry.  I saw stud earrings on UJ site which were nothing but gold-plated brass or copper.  You can buy SOLID 14 ct gold studs from Bling Jewelry for less. 

 

 

On 8/27/2018 at 12:31 PM, MinorL said:

If Kristin cared so much, she wouldn’t have hired a bunch of incompetents based on their looks and whether E! thinks they’d be good for a reality show. It all seems fake. 

 

That's like Lisa Vanderpumps only hiring a bunch of effing morons for her restaurants.

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