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S10.E09: Holidazed and Confused 2018.05.30

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2 hours ago, SuprSuprElevated said:

In fairness, for many it is the ultimate grief ... the worst pain they will ever experience.  Doesn't mean they are incapable of being in any other relationships.  Grief is as unique as a fingerprint imo.

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38 minutes ago, AnnA said:

 A good example would be Ramona on the phone with Bethenny last week.   I'll never believe she rattled all that off without any preparation.

 But Ramona needed no preparation -- she's been practicing that speech every night in her bathroom mirror since Bethenny returned to the show ; )

 

~ "i call them afflamations!"

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1 minute ago, film noire said:

 But Ramona needed no preparation -- she's been practicing that speech every night in her bathroom mirror since Bethenny returned to the show ; )

 

~ "i call them afflamations!"

Without a doubt and the opportunity to say it was presented to her when Bethenny tried to pin her fight with Carole on her.

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7 minutes ago, film noire said:

 But Ramona needed no preparation -- she's been practicing that speech every night in her bathroom mirror since Bethenny returned to the show ; )

 

~ "i call them afflamations!"

LOL

Thank you - you confirmed my theory.   Practicing every night is serious preparation. ?

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1 hour ago, AnnA said:

I don't think the HWs are given actual scripts to study either.   However,  I do believe the HWs are given a heads up and time to prepare for some scenes.   A good example would be Ramona on the phone with Bethenny last week.   I'll never believe she rattled all that off without any preparation.

That's Ramona's thing to rattle off all her grievances or attack the character of a friend when in heated arguments; usually involving alcohol! I'm trying to watch Season 4's Reunion, but it's so hard with most of the women unable to shut up for a second to listen! Poor Cindy was on the defensive the entire time trying to get a word in edgewise with these b!tches; Jill still in the cast! Ramona passes judgments on other people's marriages, was being accused of being a functional alcoholic, and was talking a mile a minute knocking people's parenting skills! ;-(

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3 hours ago, Otherkate said:

Same.

I'm not sure there will be fireworks at the reunion with Carole and Bethenny. While Carole seems to be completely obsessed with this whole thing, Bethenny's mind seems to be otherwise-occupied. But, who knows. If pinged with the right thing, B could explode. I suspect Carole is really hoping for it.

I think that may be the biggest issue between the two.  At any given time Bethenny seems to have a of of conflicts. Bethenny has a lot of interests and seems to compartmentalize her relationships.  It is always about how she and Dennis have conflicting schedules.  Yet, she also claimed she didn't want Jason hanging around all the time.  

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4 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

I think that may be the biggest issue between the two.  At any given time Bethenny seems to have a of of conflicts. Bethenny has a lot of interests and seems to compartmentalize her relationships.  It is always about how she and Dennis have conflicting schedules.  Yet, she also claimed she didn't want Jason hanging around all the time.  

Bethenny wants what she can't have until she gets it, then she doesn't want it. 

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2 hours ago, SheTalksShit said:

Finally, Dorinda said what I've been saying and thinking all along - why does everyone put up with the nasty shit Bethenny says to them? Is it just because it's expected and they've gotten used to her? They wouldn't put up with it from anyone else. She starts arguments and insults people with the ease that most of us breathe. 

How nasty of her to say Ramona's mention of her skincare line was an infomercial, when Bethenny's time on the show is 1 giant infomercial, as far as I'm concerned. I am so glad Ramona put her in her place. This bitch needs to be checked and I think the only way it's gonna happen is if she feels ganged up on or iced out by most of the other women she's stuck working with. 

I believe what Bethenny was saying is it was the timing of Ramona's mention.  Most of the stuff seem to be beauty aids or products.  When they are talking about scripted stuff I think Ramona is way too scripted.  It was like when she chose to ask Bethenny about her porn career and now claims it was a clumsy approach brought on by Bethenny being a tough conversationalist-Ramona gets a plot line in her head and just zero awareness of when to work it into a conversation.  I don't think Ramona should have been offended.  We have been there done that with Ramona's skincare line and quite frankly Ramona looks awful these days.

These women, and I hold Bethenny at the top of the list, waste way too much time and energy on fairly benign comments.  For 10 years people have made reference to Luann asking to be introduced as Mrs. de Lesseps to a driver.  Bethenny on the other hand has said so many caustic things to others and she always gets a pass under the "be real" moniker.

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3 minutes ago, Fiero425 said:

That's Ramona's thing to rattle off all her grievances or attack the character of a friend when in heated arguments; usually involving alcohol! I'm trying to watch Season 4's Reunion, but it's so hard with most of the women unable to shut up for a second to listen! Poor Cindy was on the defensive the entire time trying to get a word in edgewise with these b!tches; Jill still in the cast! Ramona passes judgments on other people's marriages, was being accused of being a functional alcoholic, and was talking a mile a minute knocking people's parenting skills! ;-(

Yup!   The best part of Ramona's rants is the cadence of her speech,  sometimes annoying, sometimes funny but always unique.    I opted to skip past the reunion and watch the news.  I had a busy day and I'm just not I the mood for Jill. Then again, I'm not in the mood for the news either. 

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2 hours ago, SheTalksShit said:

Finally, Dorinda said what I've been saying and thinking all along - why does everyone put up with the nasty shit Bethenny says to them? Is it just because it's expected and they've gotten used to her? They wouldn't put up with it from anyone else. She starts arguments and insults people with the ease that most of us breathe. 

I'd say they put up with it from Dorinda as well. Dorinda has been downright nasty to Sonja and they all just kind of sit there and bobble their heads. I've seen nobody go off on Dorinda for her drunken nastiness - Bethenny telling her maybe she shouldn't go to PR in an earlier episode this season isn't really going off on her. BF was also calmly talking to Dorinda the next day about her drunken behavior (basically - the whole "you're a drunk" convo). Not excusing Bethenny's episodes of ridiculousness but - she's hardly alone in that boat. Now that I think about it - Ramona gets off pretty lightly too (although she has been confronted about her attitude). It's kind of like they all get the "Oh that's just (insert HW name here)" response. "Oh that's just Dorinda - She get's loopy when she drinks", "Oh that's just crazy eyes Ramona", "Oh that's just nutty Sonja", "oh that's just Luann and her haughty attitude" "Oh that's just Bethenny and her sarcasm"... (not that they don't get called out in the forums here - LOL)

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Saw a clip of Carole's blog that is finally up - on twitter. She goes on and on about "how absurd" Bethenny's comments were (during the episode). I honestly think it's getting absurd how obsessed Carole is with all things Bethenny.  And for what it's worth - Bethenny's comments about Carole being into her looks, taking selfies etc is absolutely true, her insta has changed. Bethenny wasn't saying she didn't do such things herself - but she's always done that on her Insta, Bethenny really hasn't changed - but Carole sure has. She needs to move on and let it go. She needs a little "Meh - whatever" attitude like she used to have. But then again what would be Carole's storyline if she wasn't obsessed with all things Bethenny.

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35 minutes ago, BodhiGurl said:

I'd say they put up with it from Dorinda as well. Dorinda has been downright nasty to Sonja and they all just kind of sit there and bobble their heads. I've seen nobody go off on Dorinda for her drunken nastiness - Bethenny telling her maybe she shouldn't go to PR in an earlier episode this season isn't really going off on her. BF was also calmly talking to Dorinda the next day about her drunken behavior (basically - the whole "you're a drunk" convo). Not excusing Bethenny's episodes of ridiculousness but - she's hardly alone in that boat. Now that I think about it - Ramona gets off pretty lightly too (although she has been confronted about her attitude). It's kind of like they all get the "Oh that's just (insert HW name here)" response. "Oh that's just Dorinda - She get's loopy when she drinks", "Oh that's just crazy eyes Ramona", "Oh that's just nutty Sonja", "oh that's just Luann and her haughty attitude" "Oh that's just Bethenny and her sarcasm"... (not that they don't get called out in the forums here - LOL)

They all have blow ups but the only one that has gone off on everyone is Bethenny and no one has ever held their own when she goes in on them, that is until Carole. 

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1 minute ago, WireWrap said:

Carole is playing hard ball, she isn't kidding around, Bethenny needs to remember that Carole has the receipts/proof and isn't afraid to show them. http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-new-york-city/carole-radziwill/carole-radziwill-life-is-longplay-it-that-way

Meh - Carole needs to grow up and rise above the petty. I'd respect her more if she just ended things with Bethenny and moved on, and actually has something interesting going on in her life to feature on the show.

I'm starting to think Bethenny should leave the show - and not because I mind her, because overall I don't mind her. (I don't always agree with what she does, but she makes for entertaining reality tv, in my opinion of course - and actually has interesting things going on in her life beyond bickering with the other women) But if all we're going to see is almost all the women being bitchy with her all season it gets old quick. Yes - Bethenny has gone off on all the other women - but it's not all season long and it's not the only thing going on in her life. Enough already. I can only hope the Luann storyline etc shifts the focus from B vs C. I miss the earlier seasons when we actually saw slices of their lives that had nothing to do with the other women. 

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4 minutes ago, BodhiGurl said:

Meh - Carole needs to grow up and rise above the petty. I'd respect her more if she just ended things with Bethenny and moved on, and actually has something interesting going on in her life to feature on the show.

I'm starting to think Bethenny should leave the show - and not because I mind her, because overall I don't mind her. (I don't always agree with what she does, but she makes for entertaining reality tv, in my opinion of course - and actually has interesting things going on in her life beyond bickering with the other women) But if all we're going to see is almost all the women being bitchy with her all season it gets old quick. Yes - Bethenny has gone off on all the other women - but it's not all season long and it's not the only thing going on in her life. Enough already. I can only hope the Luann storyline etc shifts the focus from B vs C. I miss the earlier seasons when we actually saw slices of their lives that had nothing to do with the other women. 

What does Bethenny have going on in her life outside of Bstrong and SG that she shares on the show? Nothing! She is a walking/talking infomercial that only takes breaks from promoting herself when she goes after someone else/puts others down. As for her not going after someone all season long....Luann? She went after Luann for 2 seasons, she has gone after Ramona, Sonja, Jules...….everyone except Carole, that is until this season. With Carole, she is being more subtle about it because Carole knows where Bethenny buries the bodies.  

As for Carole rising above the petty, it's what these shows are built on and none of them rise above it, including Bethenny. LOL I am enjoying watching Carole and Bethenny take each other down, they deserve every nasty thing they say about each other after what they did to Jules.

All that said, I too miss watching the HW family time but none of them have small children except Bethenny, Bryn isn't allowed to be on the show, and none of them are married or live with SOs. So that leaves production with filming them interacting with each other and little else.

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41 minutes ago, WireWrap said:

Carole is playing hard ball, she isn't kidding around, Bethenny needs to remember that Carole has the receipts/proof and isn't afraid to show them. http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-new-york-city/carole-radziwill/carole-radziwill-life-is-longplay-it-that-way

Receipts? Proof?   Fiddle-Dee-Dee!

None of us have any way of knowing what dirt these two have on each other. 

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3 minutes ago, AnnA said:

Receipts? 

My definition: That would be "back up info, facts, and witness testimony" to prove the "TEA" at hand! lol! ;-)

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9 minutes ago, Fiero425 said:

My definition: That would be "back up info, facts, and witness testimony" to prove the "TEA" at hand! lol! ;-)

 I have no idea what TEA means :(

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7 minutes ago, AnnA said:

 I have no idea what TEA means :(

basically the intel - the gossip - the 411 ;)

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S. I do feel sorry for Luann, she is careening from this dinner toward a jail cell. Sure she was drunk and belligerent about Adam – none of it was true - not to mention she randomly demeans all those folks who live in the Mid-west. But still I’m surprised she said anything at all. Since spending the last three years with Adam; I know a lot about her carousing and have never spoken of it. Adam not only cooked for her (for nearly nothing) but he played babysitter for her teenage son when she spent nights out partying with men. So play nice Luann. Karma can be a swift bitch.

Damn. Bethenny is a master of the quick retort, but no one drops the mike like Carole.

 

13 minutes ago, AnnA said:

 I have no idea what TEA means :(

Tea (or T) comes from drag lingo. To have or spill tea means you know a secret. The popular meme of Kermit sipping tea is a more visual translation.

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14 minutes ago, BodhiGurl said:

basically the intel - the gossip - the 411 ;)

 

8 minutes ago, JakeyJokes said:

 

Tea (or T) comes from drag lingo. To have or spill tea means you know a secret. The popular meme of Kermit sipping tea is a more visual translation.

Thanks for the lingo lesson.  :)

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Sonja .. "I forgot to tell you I had sex on the sink".

Handy man... "O.k. Great".          I listened to that like ten times, haha.

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47 minutes ago, AnnA said:

Receipts? Proof?   Fiddle-Dee-Dee!

None of us have any way of knowing what dirt these two have on each other. 

That's what the reunions are all about, lets hope they bring their receipts and show them to all of us! Bully 1 and Bully 2 bashing it out! LOL

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10 minutes ago, WireWrap said:

That's what the reunions are all about, lets hope they bring their receipts and show them to all of us! Bully 1 and Bully 2 bashing it out! LOL

That's what the reunions used to be about.    Unfortunately, they've all been disappointing for a while now.   I'm tired of the Bethenny/Carole BS.    I'd love to see Dorinda in the hot seat for being a drunk and a shit stirrer.

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3 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

For 10 years people have made reference to Luann asking to be introduced as Mrs. de Lesseps to a driver.

Rightfully so imo.  That was a character defining moment to me.  I don't give BF a pass, but I may not continuously air my grievances with her or others due to the sheer monotony of it.

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5 minutes ago, AnnA said:

That's what the reunions used to be about.    Unfortunately, they've all been disappointing for a while now.   I'm tired of the Bethenny/Carole BS.    I'd love to see Dorinda in the hot seat for being a drunk and a shit stirrer.

Lets hope Carole/Bethenny change this reunion back to getting us answers with proof! Then, next season can be all about exposing Dorinda's not so "nice" habits/ways. I don't want any 1 HW thinking they are above being called out on their crap and production needs to stop protecting a certain HW.

1 minute ago, SuprSuprElevated said:

Rightfully so imo.  That was a character defining moment to me.  I don't give BF a pass, but I may not continuously air my grievances with her or others due to the sheer monotony of it.

But Luann has evolved and for the better IMO. She isn't as stuck on herself as in the past but the same can't be said for others, including Bethenny. They all need to remember that all of their "shite" stinks! LOL

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26 minutes ago, WireWrap said:

That's what the reunions are all about, lets hope they bring their receipts and show them to all of us! Bully 1 and Bully 2 bashing it out! LOL

One of the cringiest moments was Bethenny calling Dennis' daughter. Worst "receipt" ever. I was so embarrassed for that poor girl and the rest of Dennis' family regarding that call. 

I can't believe that he would even agree to that stunt. What a douche.

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I missed it. Will someone please tell me why the only woman in the world to go to a blood drive in a pink sequined cocktail dress can’t give blood?

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1 minute ago, Happy Camper said:

One of the cringiest moments was Bethenny calling Dennis' daughter. Worst "receipt" ever. I was so embarrassed for that poor girl and the rest of Dennis' family regarding that call. 

I can't believe that he would even agree to that stunt.

I seriously doubt she actually called his daughter, I suspect it was 1 of her assistants and that Bethenny prearranged the "spontaneous" call. LOL

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1 minute ago, pieinmyeye said:

I missed it. Will someone please tell me why the only woman in the world to go to a blood drive in a pink sequined cocktail dress can’t give blood?

The area they went to in Mexico was on the list which means you can’t give blood for a year.

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Just now, pieinmyeye said:

I missed it. Will someone please tell me why the only woman in the world to go to a blood drive in a pink sequined cocktail dress can’t give blood?

They were in Mexico less than a year ago and can't give blood because of that (think Zika and other blood borne viruses). 

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13 minutes ago, WireWrap said:

Lets hope Carole/Bethenny change this reunion back to getting us answers with proof! Then, next season can be all about exposing Dorinda's not so "nice" habits/ways. I don't want any 1 HW thinking they are above being called out on their crap and production needs to stop protecting a certain HW.

I don't need any answers or proof because I think the whole Bethenny/Carole thing is stupid.   I don't care if they're friends or not.   I do think Adam is an operator.    He used Nicole to get to LuAnn then hit pay dirt with Carole.   She's hurting now but  she's better off without him.   

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6 minutes ago, WireWrap said:

I seriously doubt she actually called his daughter, I suspect it was 1 of her assistants and that Bethenny prearranged the "spontaneous" call. LOL

That was such a weird situation. Even if it was fake, it was damned embarrassing for Dennis' wife and daughter. Why the hell would Bethenny stoop that low?

Adam, Tom, John, Dennis, Mario...none of them have ever appeared to be good guys.

None of the women seems to be very good at picking keepers.

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That blog! So so witty , Carole....and so, so sad. I wonder what she’s trying to acclompish at this point? Beth ain’t going to lose this gig and Carole is no longer going to be on her good side. I feel embarrassed for her right now...while Beth just sits on her throne and says nothing! She is acting like a psycho ex gf, I know because I am one, lol! 

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   7 HOURS AGO,  AUNTIEDIANE6 SAID: 

Yet there are SO MANY similar storylines.  Just a coincidence, eh?  

No, life repeats itself no matter where you live. 

Please.  The vagina restorations?  Skin treatments?  Bikini hair removal?  Etiquette lessons?  

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30 minutes ago, AuntieDiane6 said:

Please.  The vagina restorations?  Skin treatments?  Bikini hair removal?  Etiquette lessons?  

There are only so few places that will allow any HW show to film any more they are desperate!

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21 hours ago, WireWrap said:

They throw 6 -7 women that don't all get along in tight quarters and wait for the fire works to begin! 

And with a limitless supply of alcohol to really get those inhibitions down!

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BTW, someone mentioned Skinny Girls jeans were coming out in September.  Anyone know what stores will be selling them?  My girls want to know.

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