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The hand/burning scene was hard to watch (not sure porn is the right word for it, nothing was or was intended to be sexual). I'm not sure I agree with the idea that they went too far or that shouldn't have been shown. I mean, we've already had brutal executions like stoning, physical torture like removing eyes, concentration death camps, and the whole show is based around organised mass rape on a monthly basis. Any one of those earlier examples could also have been skipped - skip too many, and it defeats the point of the show.

I was curious by the airport scene. Wouldn't immigration rules be what the destination country requires? Now of course, I'm not expecting Canada to suddenly be relaxing its rules (and sadly, in times of crisis we hear people get even more opposed to immigration and asylum seekers). But they would still recognise same-sex marriage - although I suppose it's not hard to see the US/Gilead authorities deciding to interpret Canada's rules in their ways. Or maybe the point was that Gilead was increasingly clamping down on freedom of movement out the country, no matter what other countries allowed?

On 04/05/2018 at 4:40 AM, SourK said:

Because they don't hate lesbians. They f--ing love lesbians because it gives them somebody to feel superior to and because it means they get to punish all the unbelievers who don't live according to the strict set of rules they've imposed on themselves. There's no scenario where Gilead wanted everyone who didn't agree with them to leave the country. Then they wouldn't have anyone to boss around. They needed to keep people there if they could.

I agree - although also any woman fleeing was a potentially fertile woman.

On 02/06/2018 at 8:15 PM, Clanstarling said:

Speaking just for myself (and not all Americans), no - not so extreme. The seeds that led up to the Handmaid's Tale universe are present in our reality at an alarmingly increasing rate. I don't know that I think it will go that far, but is more of a possibility (in my mind) than it was when I read the book originally.


I agree about comparisons to America. But worryingly many other countries too that are already further down that road, and all some people (in society, not here!) can do is moan about asylum seekers. It would be interesting for the show to show that side: people make it all the way to Canada, only to be turned away; or those who stay experience anti-immigration abuse, with people assuming they must have the same views as those they fled from.

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