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Roswell (1999)

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On the DVD commentary for the Cry Your Name episode, Ron Moore talked about how they were always getting notes and pressure from the WB that Max was too weak and I think the end of season two domineering-stuff was probably a reaction to that.

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On 5/8/2018 at 6:53 PM, slf said:

I still can't believe that the writers decided to write Max as such a prick in the back half of season two when they intended to reunite him and Liz. He's domineering, condescending, entitled, and manhandles Liz and Isabel quite a bit.

Watching the DVDs, one of the commentaries had Shiri and Majandra talking about how they kept telling the producer they didn't want the girls to be with Max and Michael when they were treating them so poorly because they were worried about sending a bad message.

I just finished rewatching season one. Maybe it was just nostalgia, but I really enjoyed it. I thought Jason Behr did a good job with some of the white room stuff and I've always liked how they incorporated the Valentis more and put them on the aliens' side. 

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On 5/30/2018 at 10:04 PM, bettername2come said:

Watching the DVDs, one of the commentaries had Shiri and Majandra talking about how they kept telling the producer they didn't want the girls to be with Max and Michael when they were treating them so poorly because they were worried about sending a bad message.

I just finished rewatching season one. Maybe it was just nostalgia, but I really enjoyed it. I thought Jason Behr did a good job with some of the white room stuff and I've always liked how they incorporated the Valentis more and put them on the aliens' side. 

Season Onederful was hands down the best season of Roswell.  I'm watching S2 right now and it's very different.  The human characters turned into complete props for the alien characters - Season 1 did a much better job of exploring the interior lives of ALL of the characters - not just the alien ones.  The writing felt more balanced.

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48 minutes ago, nosleepforme said:

Honestly, they just never had a handle on the sci-fi-stuff and it showed. I remember that I was so excited that they were introducing antagonists for the show's characters at the end of the first season, but they never really figured out the Skins and then they were just discarded in that two-part-episode, because they did not know what to do with them. I think they had a much better handle on the FBI/Conspiracy Stuff in season one, because they didn't have to make up an entire world and rules. They never even went anywhere with the whole Kivas-Storyline that was actually a fairly interesting backstory. I think he possessed a man in season three for one episode, but that was so lame, when that character had been made so important in the backstory of the four aliens that he could have had so much more potential. The second season was my least favorite of the show when I rewatched it a couple of years ago. I think the third season was better again and had a better handle on both sci-fi and romance elements, but by that point they were still somewhat spinning their wheels.

I could have written this entire post!  I agree.  I was glad we got some antagonists - to help drive the story - but not when it turned Alex, Maria, Kyle and Liz into props.  The heart fell out of the story.  And worse, the sci-fi, though promising left so many hanging chads that it was unfulfilling.  I remember some fans did incredible fan-fiction on it... 

They dropped so many plots in S2... Future Max, Liz being able to astral project (they finally picked it up in S3), the Dupes, K'Var/Khivar/Kivar, Brody, Nikolas... where Tess got the alien bomb that almost killed Liz, Maria and Michael, how Alex translated the book, the Granolith going from this super powerful thing to a one-time use spaceship (side eye), why the future friend Serena never showed up, why the Granolith could be both a one-time use spaceship but ALSO rigged for space travel (guess it's like Superman's Phantom Engine from his spaceship), the whole "we have to remain a unit of 4" nonsense that led to Future Max and the fallout, like a million things they just left hanging.  I still get mad when I watch The End of The World episode and realize that we NEVER got a payoff from it.

The writers just gave up I guess.

I still thought S3 lacked any depth in its scifi elements - they could have done so much more with Liz's powers and why she had them and why Kyle didn't.  Kyle seemed to think he'd get powers a year after Liz manifested - but she manifested a whole season earlier and Kyle still had no powers.  They should have explored why Liz had powers and why Kyle didn't - that could have explored more mythology much more deeply.  I also thought there were missed opportunities to have aliens sympathetic to them not come across them more - after Courtney that got dropped - I guess they just killed all of the Skins?

Reminds of how Sleepy Hollow abandoned the mythology of S1 and S2 and kinda hurt the show - losing the horsemen and the whole Apocalypse thing hollowed out the show, imo and made it feel ungrounded from its premise.

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Liz developed powers in season 3, so about three years after he healed her. Kyle was healed about a year after she was (the end of season 1). Therefore he was right in thinking he might develop them too.  As not as much time past for him.

 

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after Courtney that got dropped - I guess they just killed all of the Skins?

She was killed by that Skins kid (Nicholas?) when she wouldn't give him what he wanted. She turned out to really be on the good side. Most of the skins were killed in the one two parter. The rest were killed by Tess.

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On 9/15/2018 at 7:53 PM, nosleepforme said:

The plot twist with Liz developing powers was cool, but also kind of silly TBH, because it came three years after it occurred. And if we are to assume that everybody who is healed by the aliens gets power, then all those sick children that Max healed in the christmas episode in season two will also eventually become super-humans with powers.

I thought the same thing about all of the sick children. But it was not three years after her healing that Liz developed powers. Max healed her during their Junior year of high school and the season three series finale was their graduation. So a little over a year. This also means that Kyle wasn't healed a year after Liz. It was probably more like months.

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On 9/19/2018 at 11:57 PM, Mikita said:

I thought the same thing about all of the sick children. But it was not three years after her healing that Liz developed powers. Max healed her during their Junior year of high school and the season three series finale was their graduation. So a little over a year. This also means that Kyle wasn't healed a year after Liz. It was probably more like months.

They were sophomores in season 1, so two + years. Although in fairness, I think it's hard to hypothesize how long it would take for the effects of alien healing to alter the brain to the point of giving powers.

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On 9/15/2018 at 7:53 PM, nosleepforme said:

The plot twist with Liz developing powers was cool, but also kind of silly TBH, because it came three years after it occurred. And if we are to assume that everybody who is healed by the aliens gets power, then all those sick children that Max healed in the christmas episode in season two will also eventually become super-humans with powers.

I like to read this post-Graduation fanfiction called Chameleon, by Carol000/spacemom, which resolves all the loose ends and even addresses the issue of the sick children that Max healed at Christmas time.  I think the writer is very talented and she produced a very satisfying ending to the saga.  The only problem for me is that there is a ton of Max and Liz sex that I need to skip over.  (Some people may like that stuff, but I prefer not to read anything graphic.)  Anyway... I was reminded of it when I read your post, so I thought I would mention it here since I found it very well written and it gave me a much greater sense of closure than I had when the show was ended way too soon.

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My theory on the kids is that they may not develop powers, as Max didn't directly heal them from immediate death, just their illness which in a way isn't that different than healing someone's injury. What he does for Kyle and Liz is heal them moments before death. He may have also done this for Jim too (in that lab in season 3). So it's possible both Kyle and his dad with develop powers.  I wish the show had more time to explore all of this.

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On 9/22/2018 at 1:07 AM, AnnaRose said:

I like to read this post-Graduation fanfiction called Chameleon, by Carol000/spacemom, which resolves all the loose ends and even addresses the issue of the sick children that Max healed at Christmas time.  I think the writer is very talented and she produced a very satisfying ending to the saga.  The only problem for me is that there is a ton of Max and Liz sex that I need to skip over.  (Some people may like that stuff, but I prefer not to read anything graphic.)  Anyway... I was reminded of it when I read your post, so I thought I would mention it here since I found it very well written and it gave me a much greater sense of closure than I had when the show was ended way too soon.

This story would have made a really great season of the show!

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I loved the show from the pilot through "Sexual Healing," but when Tess arrived to become the third part of the worst (IMO) type of relationship triangle, I really should have bailed. I guess I kept thinking she would go away, but I should have considered that IRL the Max-Liz relationship was forever damaged. At least my blind faithfulness in the show and the relationship was rewarded in the series finale. 
And my then-young teen daughter and I regularly bonded while watching my video tape of the "I Married an Alien" episode.

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