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S06.E10: Divided

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Finally watched the entire ep. I still don't get the anger at Oliver not trusting them as he trusts Diggle and Felicity — these three have more than 5 years of history, relationships, etc. Felicity is his wife! Diggle is his brother! How do they expect to get to that level? How is that going to be resolved? 

Also, wow, JH, dial back on the overacting. That scene where she punches Vince was so overwrought and over the top it took me out of the scene. They could have a nice chemistry: He's doing the right amount of flirting but she keeps overplaying it with the sultry looks and the soft voice like she's about to jump his bones. Go take a cold shower, lady. 

There was a moment I kind of felt bad for Rene when he was worrying about how he betrayed Oliver. At least he recognized that. But that disappeared right quick. I want him gone after what he said to Felicity. She's never spoken to him in such a dismissive manner so I don't get where he comes off saying he's tried of her speaking to him like that. 

Curtis is an idiot and a hypocrite and a moron. He should go away. Forever. 

I've had a few friends comment that Oliver and Felicity didn't seem married and while they had that lovely "Bull Durham" quote scene they really weren't as affectionate as we've seen them in the past, specially in early 4A. We know how they are when they're in a relationship so this felt a little off for me. I wonder if they're dialing it back because of the comic boys' wailing about how GA had become a wuss back in S4A.

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2 minutes ago, SmallScreenDiva said:

I've had a few friends comment that Oliver and Felicity didn't seem married and while they had that lovely "Bull Durham" quote scene they really weren't as affectionate as we've seen them in the past, specially in early 4A. We know how they are when they're in a relationship so this felt a little off for me. I wonder if they're dialing it back because of the comic boys' wailing about how GA had become a wuss back in S4A.

Tbh, while I get the argument, I think I'll still give them some points since on paper that scene doesn't necessarily give off as an affectionate vibe as they actually staged/acted it. It seems like they went out of their way to make something that seemed more platonic (especially since Diggle was in the scene) into something more romantic. It was kind of a combo of s5 and s4 to me, since they'll never necessarily be their 4a selves again. Then again I was kind of disappointed that there wasn't at least one mention/reference that they were married, though there was like a whole 10 min celebration over it last episode. 

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16 minutes ago, SmallScreenDiva said:

I wonder if they're dialing it back because of the comic boys' wailing about how GA had become a wuss back in S4A.

That would be my guess.  But I'm okay with it since married couples often aren't as physically affectionate in public as ones just falling in love because they have all that extra time at home to be affectionate.

I really liked them in the bit where Felicity talks about Oliver getting into bed with a Bertinelli going wrong because it's just the sort of teasing secure couples do. I can see Lyla and Diggle doing that.

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IDK I guess to me you don't have to be touchy - feely to get married vibes. I don't know any married couple who are affectionate all the time so I don't expect them to be like that every episode. 

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I don't think it was a big on olicity episode so yeah they weren't very couple-y to me.But I don't think they were in every episode of season 4a either so I don't think yet that it might be on purpose.It made sense in the episode I guess since they note how tired they are and how they barely even slept but I do think their basically first episode as a married couple could have included some more moments reflecting that in some way.

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I was fine with the lack of touchy feely Olicity in this episode but I hope this isn't a precedent. I do want to see some outright signs of affection at some point, especially as they've only been married a few weeks. Even a kiss on the cheek would do. Haha. But as I said, I didn't have an issue with the lack of it here. 

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Was i the only one that straight up rolled my eyes when Thea said Malcolm was "good" in the end?

Didn't he literally help rewrite the timeline causing everyone's life as they know it to go away together with the 2 biggest villains the Arrowverse has ever seen?
 

What a great guy! Yea BS can totally be good like Malcolm no worries!

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12 minutes ago, DeadZeus said:

Didn't he literally help rewrite the timeline causing everyone's life as they know it to go away together with the 2 biggest villains the Arrowverse has ever seen?

To be fair, I doubt Thea knows anything about that. Wasn't she still in a coma the last time the Legends were around? And I imagine she was referring to the fact Malcolm took a landmine for her. A 'good', fatherly thing to do. I wouldn't think Thea was saying he was a good guy, she's fully aware of all the awful things Malcolm did. Like brainwashing her to kill Sara. NO ONE will forgot that one.

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9 hours ago, SmallScreenDiva said:

I've had a few friends comment that Oliver and Felicity didn't seem married and while they had that lovely "Bull Durham" quote scene they really weren't as affectionate as we've seen them in the past, specially in early 4A. We know how they are when they're in a relationship so this felt a little off for me. I wonder if they're dialing it back because of the comic boys' wailing about how GA had become a wuss back in S4A.

I find it pretty consistently hilarious whenever the comic fanboys (at least the hard core anti Olicity ones) go into bitch fits because Oliver being in love makes him a "wuss" and how "the show is all about shipping now", because...have they read a comic book? Superhero stories are basically soap operas with fight scenes. Oliver is VERY well known in the comics for his romances, and comics in general books spend quite a bit of time on dating and the relationships and romances of the heroes, and even the villains. Did they just forget all of that? 

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35 minutes ago, tennisgurl said:

I find it pretty consistently hilarious whenever the comic fanboys (at least the hard core anti Olicity ones) go into bitch fits because Oliver being in love makes him a "wuss" and how "the show is all about shipping now", because...have they read a comic book? Superhero stories are basically soap operas with fight scenes. Oliver is VERY well known in the comics for his romances, and comics in general books spend quite a bit of time on dating and the relationships and romances of the heroes, and even the villains. Did they just forget all of that? 

These same people who scream and moan about comics only hate Felicity because she's married to Oliver and Laurel is dead. They still can't get over it. So they mask their hate by saying "green arrow shouldn't be married." When really they just want him to be with LL all the time.

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When I first watched this episode, I was taken a little aback that you couldn't even tell that Oliver & Felicity were married. Then upon reflection, I thought that maybe they just decided to keep their "work" life separate from their "personal" life. When they're working, they'll be all business. I can accept that. I just hope that we also get scenes of them together when they're not working.

When Diggle and Lyla are together with Team Arrow, they aren't all touchy-feely. Lyla is all business. But when they're at home or alone, then they're more openly affectionate.

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Strangely, I will miss poor Jerry Bertinelli, who had two of the best lines in this episode...

Bertinelli: "You're a hard man to find. You ever consider a web site - maybe a spotlight in the sky, you know, a big silhouette of an arrow?"

Bertinelli: "I - I never actually wanted to get in this life, you know, but we do certain things for family, am I right? Now the ports, these docks, it's all we got left, and last night, these people came over and threatened to take it from me, you know, some dweeb in glasses, a thug, a woman with superpowers."

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1 hour ago, tv echo said:

When I first watched this episode, I was taken a little aback that you couldn't even tell that Oliver & Felicity were married. Then upon reflection, I thought that maybe they just decided to keep their "work" life separate from their "personal" life.

Maybe they did. It was just a bit odd, IMO, because we'd seen them being openly affectionate, like when Oliver was rubbing Felicity's back while she was working on one of the Ghosts tooth. Although now that I think about it, I think that's when it's only the two of them in the lair. And they didn't have a scene where it's just them. Diggle was always there. Anyway, it just struck me as odd, that's all. I hope we get to see a peek at their home life — sans William, please. Just them chilling at home like they did in S4. 

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I've noticed that this season the show has not done casual Olicity in episodes where their being together isn't some kind of a plot point.  So far this year, they couldn't go long before it was a plot point and I'm hoping they being a couple will continue to pop up (like anytime they are home or with William it's a plot point) but yeah, it does feel like they are purposely spacing out the Olicity moments so it's not glaringly there in every episode which is dumb anytime they avoid something natural in a situation.  It wasn't a bad episode but there were a couple moments where I felt it just would have made more sense to lean into it a bit more.   

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It's possibly an attempt to keep it lowkey to stave off complaints about talking over the show, wahwahwah, although that's futile anyway. Also since they're married now and happy for the moment that the writers feel they've "ticked that box". And as you say so far it has come up as a plot point due to their marriage/William.

Let's face it when they start going on about how awesome their life together is we'll start to worry ala you could tell exactly when they started gearing up for LLs death in S4.

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Curtis: What does it look like?

Me: It looks like you losers are all going to die

 

Finally watched this. It was actually an okay episode, although I'm a bit bored with the whinging of Team Loser. Felicity was spot on with her "Stop being mad at Daddy" comment. 

If I have one gripe with this season, it's with the awful "Don't kill him yet" trope because of the bad guy's "Plan". I guarantee when we find out what "The Plan" is, it'll be lame. 

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