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They will be an intercultural family. Gotta adapt & compromise.

So the first time you meet your prospective spouse's family, you refuse to eat the food they have prepared for you and say "Sorry. You have to adapt and compromise"??  

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2 hours ago, AZChristian said:

I googled his bowing, and found that it was probably his version of a Philippine practice of showing respect to elders.  At least he tried with that - although FatherJenny looked a bit askance at him.  

I thought it looked like he was trying to kiss his hand.  

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2 hours ago, AZChristian said:

With a last name like Passariello, and his crossing of himself before he put that tiny bite of pork into his mouth, I think it's unlikely that he's Jewish.

OK. I'm not sure where I got that he might be Jewish from, then. I haven't been able to find any clips of him saying that he is, either. So, I owe you all a big "mea culpa" for even bringing this up. I hope you'll all forgive my posting incorrect information. :)

1 hour ago, Quof said:

You're a guest in their house, you eat the damned food.   You don't want to do anything non-American, don't leave America or seek out a non-American spouse. 

Especially since he has no reason not to, he should be gracious and eat the food. Personally, when I saw the pig, the first thing I thought was "ohhhhhh, pig cheeks. YUM". That pig looked delicious and I'd have eaten a belly full. I also would have taken them some gifts that are either unavailable in the Philippines or are expensive to get in the Philippines (and that would also be useful for them, of course).

51 minutes ago, shockermolar said:

Actually no one is saying Larry needs to adapt - what everyone is saying is that he needs to be respectful and cognizant of the customs of the  country to which he CHOSE to travel and perhaps should have made a modicum of effort to learn about before deciding to marry someone from another culture. And the same holds true for all of these idiots really.  

On another note - I saw something and rewound and froze the screen to confirm it. When the producer finally finds Paul and they're standing around in the parking lot discussing the mugging of Karine she tells him that Karine has gone back to the hotel, packed and is moving out to stay with a friend. The camera pans over and you can CLEARLY see Karine sitting the backseat of the maroon SUV tapping away on her phone. 

That first paragraph is so spot on. I don't understand why none of these people bother to learn about the culture and customs. That information is right there at your fingertips. They're planning on marrying someone from another country and they're not the least little bit curious about their culture and customs? Really? As for learning even a little bit of the language, I would think they'd be even more motivated wrt this than they are to the culture and customs. Why wouldn't you want to be able to carry simple conversations in that language? Or be able to ask for directions? Or to just be able to say "I want to go to the boat docks" FFS?

We'll be watching this episode tonight. So, I'm going to keep an eagle eye out for this. This is one reason I enjoy reading these forums before watching the show. We would watch it on Sunday nights, except that I have to go to bed for work the next day before it's over. So it gets watched on Mondays (and Lucifer gets watched on Tuesdays :(  ).

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1 hour ago, bichonblitz said:

Just plain ignorance

I don't think his physical responses were ignorant (can't be helped), but his social responses sure were. 

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I have an odd food intolerance to the sugar molecule fructose along with suffering from gastoparesis. I cannot eat much at all and very small amounts of high fructose corn syrup, honey or molasses results in projectile vomiting, at minimum. It has, in the past, cause my small intestines to swell landing me in the hospital for a few days on IV Dilaudid. When my mother's aunt invited us over for dinner, I questioned her on the food, including the rolls that I was pretty sure was a frozen dough that typically contained high fructose corn syrup. She was greatly offended and insisted she made it from scratch. She also had negative comments about how little food I had on my plate, and loudly questioned me about not liking her cooking. My mom said that I just couldn't eat that much. Two bites of the roll later, I had an immediate cramping pain in my stomach and I stood up, threw the roll at her and started to walk to the bathroom to vomit. Unfortunately or fortunately as the case may be, I made it two steps before projectile vomiting and fainting. I woke up as the paramedics were loading me into the ambulance. 

I tell that long personal story to say I sympathized with Larry when presented with something he didn't want to eat. He tried and just couldn't do it. Food anxiety is paralyzing. I've been through cognizant behavioral therapy for my food anxiety and still can't go over to people's homes to eat. The thoughts about it leading up to the visits are all consuming, and my CBT training can't overcome the fear. Until I finally decide I just can't go, the crippling anxiety has control of all my thoughts. People get very offended, insist they wouldn't do something to make me sick, but still, my great-aunt insisted it too, and she did.

That's where my sympathy with Larry ends, though. I don't believe any one on this show is in a legitimate relationship and think all of them just want to be on television. This show is so obviously scripted and I don't like any of the participants.

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3 minutes ago, Christina said:

I have an odd food intolerance to the sugar molecule fructose along with suffering from gastoparesis. I cannot eat much at all and very small amounts of high fructose corn syrup, honey or molasses results in projectile vomiting, at minimum. It has, in the past, cause my small intestines to swell landing me in the hospital for a few days on IV Dilaudid. When my mother's aunt invited us over for dinner, I questioned her on the food, including the rolls that I was pretty sure was a frozen dough that typically contained high fructose corn syrup. She was greatly offended and insisted she made it from scratch. She also had negative comments about how little food I had on my plate, and loudly questioned me about not liking her cooking. My mom said that I just couldn't eat that much. Two bites of the roll later, I had an immediate cramping pain in my stomach and I stood up, threw the roll at her and started to walk to the bathroom to vomit. Unfortunately or fortunately as the case may be, I made it two steps before projectile vomiting and fainting. I woke up as the paramedics were loading me into the ambulance. 

that's very interesting, I've never heard of that before.  And given that HFCS is in almost everything, that must be very difficult for you.  Gotta say...I did feel some satisfaction at the thought of you throwing the roll and then vomiting in front of your great aunt (not that you vomited, but that it then became an issue for great aunt to deal with), a sort of revenge.  

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@Christina Oh. My. God. I think the fact you only made it two steps before vomiting was the perfect karmic result of your great aunt being such a horrible, demonic bitch. I can't imagine how hard it must be for you to find foods you can actually eat. I avoid HFCS because I don't like the bitter aftertaste it leaves and because I don't like its effects on my body, though I don't have the problem you do. I'm sorry you suffer such anxiety over it, too. We've had guests who had dietary proscriptions and had no problem observing them. I can't understand people like your great aunt who do have a problem with it. You're a guest and I have a thing about not wanting my guests to get sick. Maybe I'm funny that way. :D

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He could have taken a small mouthful along with the noodles and rive and proclaimed " That was awesome! Such a wonderful feast you put on for me!"

Then eaten other things and told JennynotJenny he had an allergy to pork.

 The family spent mega bucks which they dont have - to honor him and he came across as rude.

Do these people not Google customs before they come over so they dont appear like ignorant morons??

 

I want to drown Paul

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3 hours ago, AZChristian said:

I googled his bowing, and found that it was probably his version of a Philippine practice of showing respect to elders.  At least he tried with that - although FatherJenny looked a bit askance at him.  

. . . 

I kept wanting the camera to pan out and show more of Sacre Coeur and less of Patrick.  We, too, visited there.  The only thing more beautiful than the outside was the inside.  

Re: the bowing, I am so glad you went further than I did and googled it because I definitely got the feeling that at least he had tried to do some homework and that was his bumbling way of TRYING ...

And re: Sacre Coeur, totally with you there ... with all of the iconic sights and sites of Paris, for some reason sitting at the top of the Sacre Coeur steps and looking down at everything from there is the single most recognizable one for me! We're going back to Paris for a few days (actually bracketing a river cruise in Burgundy with a few days in Paris on either side) and while there are several places I want to go that we didn't get to the first time, that is one place I REALLY want to revisit (Sacre Coeur, Montmartre, etc.)

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11 hours ago, gavinmac said:

Yeah, it's terrible than she hasn't seen her mom. Many Filipinas leave the Philippines to earn money as domestic helpers in Hong Kong, Singapore, the Middle East, etc.  And many of them are not treated well by their rich Chinese or rich Arab bosses. Or they work for an employment service that hold on to their passport while they are abroad, deducts huge amounts from their pay to repay the plane ticket, etc.  Some of the younger ones then also work as freelance prostitutes in sleazy bars in Hong Kong.

If you want to read something heartbreaking on this general topic, read this story from the Atlantic about an American family that had a Filipina slave for 50 years.  https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/06/lolas-story/524490/

As far as Jenny is concerned, she's not going to reject Larry for being too poor.  He likely earns 10X what anyone in her family makes. Even if they can only send couple of hundred bucks a month home from Florida, that makes a huge difference. And she can work in the USA and send 90% of that money back.  Most definitely.  Jenny's not that young or that pretty and is in no position to reject any decent 30-55 year old American suitor. 

Thank you for that clickable link. I found the story both moving and heartbreaking. 

It's sad to think that there are women in this world who's dire circumstances make them feel that it is ok for them to submit to a man so that they can come over to America and try to find the dream. 

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1 hour ago, booboopbedoo said:

He could have taken a small mouthful along with the noodles and rive and proclaimed " That was awesome! Such a wonderful feast you put on for me!"

I got all excited when I saw "rive" and thought "Oh! a dish I haven't heard of! Wonder what it is? Wonder if ManilaMart has it? Off to The Google!" Then my brain caught up with my taste buds and I figured out it was a typo for 'rice.' Dammit. When it comes to foods from other cultures, if it didn't swim/live* in the ocean, I'll try it!**

(*allergies)
(**I'm not trying balut. Not happening.)

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1 hour ago, Christina said:

People get very offended, insist they wouldn't do something to make me sick, but still, my great-aunt insisted it too, and she did.

That's where my sympathy with Larry ends, though. I don't believe any one on this show is in a legitimate relationship and think all of them just want to be on television. This show is so obviously scripted and I don't like any of the participants.

Like you, I have very severe food restrictions, to the point that I can no longer eat in restaurants, and I share the anxiety that accompanies it.  If Larry has something similar, he should have communicated it to his hosts in some tactful way, but he didn't.  

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12 hours ago, gavinmac said:

Yeah, it's terrible than she hasn't seen her mom. Many Filipinas leave the Philippines to earn money as domestic helpers in Hong Kong, Singapore, the Middle East, etc.  And many of them are not treated well by their rich Chinese or rich Arab bosses. Or they work for an employment service that hold on to their passport while they are abroad, deducts huge amounts from their pay to repay the plane ticket, etc.  Some of the younger ones then also work as freelance prostitutes in sleazy bars in Hong Kong.

If you want to read something heartbreaking on this general topic, read this story from the Atlantic about an American family that had a Filipina slave for 50 years.  https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/06/lolas-story/524490/

As far as Jenny is concerned, she's not going to reject Larry for being too poor.  He likely earns 10X what anyone in her family makes. Even if they can only send couple of hundred bucks a month home from Florida, that makes a huge difference. And she can work in the USA and send 90% of that money back.  Most definitely.  Jenny's not that young or that pretty and is in no position to reject any decent 30-55 year old American suitor. 

That had to be the saddest article I have ever read.  I totally understand why these young women from Thailand and the Philippines want to escape poverty.  Thanks for sharing the article

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5 hours ago, Dobian said:

I guess Larry's never been to a luau before, that's always the centerpiece.  It's a freaking pig!  Hey Larry, where do you think your pulled pork sandwich came from?  Or your side of bacon?  What an idiot.

Larry took out his 401k to find a wife... I highly doubt that guy has been anywhere near a Luau. 

5 hours ago, MrSmith said:

Well, I might be remembering incorrectly (regarding Larry being Jewish). I'll try to find a clip later today when I have time.

Don't feel bad - I totally thought I remember Larry talking about being Jewish in one of his first episodes too.  I wonder who we were both thinking about since it must not be Larry??

50 minutes ago, Sprockets said:

Like you, I have very severe food restrictions, to the point that I can no longer eat in restaurants, and I share the anxiety that accompanies it.  If Larry has something similar, he should have communicated it to his hosts in some tactful way, but he didn't.  

But then you wonder... what has Larry been eating the entire time he's been there!?  You would think at some point whatever situation he has with food he would share it with her at some point.  Or maybe he has gotten the runs from some of the local food and that's why he was hesitant? But his shaky/nervous reaction was very bizarre. That dude gets way too nervous. 

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1 minute ago, gunderda said:

But his shaky/nervous reaction was very bizarre. That dude gets way too nervous. 

Maybe at some deep level - if he possesses such a thing - he realizes how screwed up his current situation is.  

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1 minute ago, Straycat80 said:

 

Is it too much to hope that none of these idiots end up together? 

 

Being idiots, nothing will work out well for them, whatever happens.  

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2 hours ago, Granny58 said:

I thought it looked like he was trying to kiss his hand.  

Actually, in the Philippines, you show respect to your elders by taking their hand and placing the top of the hand to your forehead. It should be a very quick and smooth gesture. This is what Larry was trying to do. Children are taught this at a very young age. Filipinos don't typically bow to each other, I think that is just Larry being nervous.

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4 hours ago, Quof said:

You're a guest in their house, you eat the damned food.   You don't want to do anything non-American, don't leave America or seek out a non-American spouse. 

Too true that.

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38 minutes ago, Waveywaves said:

Actually, in the Philippines, you show respect to your elders by taking their hand and placing the top of the hand to your forehead. It should be a very quick and smooth gesture. This is what Larry was trying to do. Children are taught this at a very young age. Filipinos don't typically bow to each other, I think that is just Larry being nervous.

Oh, thank you!  Is it normal for an adult to do it to an older adult too?

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25 minutes ago, Granny58 said:

Oh, thank you!  Is it normal for an adult to do it to an older adult too?

Yes.  I lived there a year in my late 30's and would do it to my elders (I am not Filipino). I don't know of any hard rule, but I wouldn't do it unless they were a generation or more older (so I wouldn't do it to say a 40 year old). 

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18 hours ago, Bibi said:

I know we're bitching around but no need to go this far. Jenny may be poor but still . She's a woman.  Not a pig.

Larry knew he was going to a feast. Why did she need to tell him about? You go to a feast, you eat and you drink.  First of all, he didn't bother to dress properly. And Jenny should have told him he was expected to eat?

 "Why is it such a big deal?" Seriously Larry. This family is so poor they can only afford one bed in a studio. They offer you a meal and you don't even taste it. I thought he was vegan maybe. Hell no, he just fears diarrhea. It's not veggies !  It's roasted meat!

I'm very proud of her father. Despite his poverty he didn't offer his daughter like Karine's  parents and Abby's did. " Oh American? Yes take my daughter away please. Do whatever you want!"

I'm so tired of these stupid Americans (thank you Mother Pedro). I won't eat this, I won't it that, I'm not going into the water, I run half-naked in the middle of Paris...

I really hope Jenny can get her green card, dump him and find a smart guy.

Larry was an idiot for not just scarfing down some pork and pretending to like it.  But, I think Jenny probably shares some of the blame.  I believe she told the camera what a rare delicacy the roast pig was for her family and all the cost and trouble they went through to prepare it for him, but it didn't seem like she told Larry.  When he didn't want to eat it she just pouted and when she did speak to him, she still didn't really seem to explain why it was so important for him to eat it.  She just said, "You're rude" (and I think it took 3 times before he understood she was saying "rude").  

If she had laid out the whole pig situation to Larry beforehand and he still cringed at it, I would put it all on him, but I don't think she did that.  

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2 hours ago, puppytoes said:

That had to be the saddest article I have ever read.  I totally understand why these young women from Thailand and the Philippines want to escape poverty.  Thanks for sharing the article

Yeah, I can't remember if the article touches on it, but a major motivator for these girls is helping their parents. In the USA our parents often have pensions, savings, Medicare, social security.  In developing countries, when you are too old to work you often have no money to pay for things like food, housing, medicine, health care, etc.  Children support the parents, then their children support them, etc.

The girls can marry a Filipino guy her own age from the same lower economic class and basically give her parents nothing, or go abroad to work/marry an older foreigner and use the money to support her impoverished parents in their helpless elderly years. Tough choice.

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20 hours ago, TrininisaScorp said:

I'll never understand WHY these people don't do a quick Wiki about appropriate cultural norms.  But then...we wouldn't have a show.

Cortney continues to be a big ole' idiot.   Samuel was obviously playing wingman for Antonio, and she fell for it hook, line, and sinker.  In the same way I laugh at Jorge's suffering b/c "all American girls are evil feminists", I laugh at Cortney for "I thought Europeans were all about family".  Ya dumbass.

Larry, Larry, Larry...homie.  This chick isn't even a little into him.  Every talking head is about her going to America, and Larry is soooo awkward.  Family Jenny are obviously trying to be kind, but the second they step out of Larry's comfort zone, he behaves terribly.  I can tell you in my culture (we are Indo Caribbean), it would be very offensive to treat the food my family spent time, effort, and money to acquire and make, and behave like Larry did that lechon.  Also, Larry lives in Pinellas....HOW HAVEN'T YOU BEEN TO A CUBAN'S HOUSE FOR CHRISTMAS LECHON BEFORE?!  I don't eat pork and I've been invited multiple times for lechon.  Come on, man.

Karine should be done with Paul.  I'm completely with his continued "poor me" POV:  He should be alone.  And sad.  And leave all the women alone.  

Myriam and Patrick are frustrating.  Why, WHY is Patrick always flipping and tumbling on things?  That's weird.  Stop.  And Myriam needs to pick a situation and stick to it.  This is getting sad.

Whatever, Sean.  You experienced Abby for real last episode, and you still are considering marrying her?!  My.  Gawd.  I hope she fleeces you for every Buckeye penny you got, man.  Lame.

The thing that drives me crazy about Sean is the "soul mate" talk.  Your "soul mate" (if such a person exists) is NOT someone less than half your age living in a foreign country who you have zero in common with.  This is true even if she is not likely an either current or former prostitute and sleeping with a guy 3 times her age.   

With that sort of age difference you MIGHT be able to hope for companionship and a largely mutually beneficial relationship where you get sex, someone to cook and clean, etc. and she gets out of the 3rd world to live a much more comfortable lifestyle with a man whole will treat her decently.   There might be some chance that some sort of love would develop during the marriage (though I don't like the odds).  But, to think somehow you are missing out on your "soulmate" because the 20 year old who obviously had no feelings for you is into another guy is pathetic.  

I do sense that Sean is going to do the smart thing and forget about her.  It seems like the show is intentionally dragging that story out, because there isn't going to be much to see. 

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6 hours ago, bichonblitz said:

Larry is a classless asshat. 

I think you should trademark the expression "classless asshat" because it is AWESOME. (As is your screen name ... we call it the Bichon 500 but I like yours better!)

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I'll give Larry a potential benefit of the doubt: I dated someone with the most Italian last name ever but his mother was Jewish and he was raised in the Jewish faith. He ate bacon though. And shellfish. But still...

 

My heart breaks for Karine. She is smart enough to know that Paul is a psychotic loser and I loved when she was telling him off. But then she realized she was losing her potential visa and said she forgave him. No woman should have to suffer that to escape poverty. Abby seems smarter and is definitely a hustler but she's in the same boat. She may be more savvy -- getting laptops and iPads -- but she's at the will of 2 disgusting men to get ahead. I'm not sure what to think about Jenny. She's a robot, "yes, my love." "no, my love." She knows the game well enough though. If she does last with Larry it will be literally to the day she can get divorced and not lose her green card status. 

 

Patrick doesn't bother me. Men run shirtless around here all the time. I think he's making the best out of a crappy situation not knowing about the boyfriend and he's trying to win her over. I actually think they're cute together. I'd like one of these moronic couples to be somewhat genuine. 

 

I love how Courtney thinks she's in charge yet that doofus has let her down at every turn (the airport, being late to meet her, taking her to a beauty pageant..." She acted like she *finally* deemed him worthy for sex when really that's been number one on her agenda from the jump. 

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Listen, some people are grossed out by food that is shown in its entirety. My son was going to cook chicken for a woman he was dating. They went to the store to get it and she had a hissy when he picked up a whole chicken from the showcase! She wasn't going to eat anything like that. So he asked her what did she think chicken looked like and she honestly could not reconcile the two. 

And what if the show knew he had faith reasons behind some of his choices but pushed the family to have the traditional roasted meat? IDK, he just doesn't seem THAT uncouth. He's not a smooth cool daddy-o but he would have to have some type of presence in order to have a job even at McD's.

And does anyone else thing Molly (the bra lady) looks and talks like Amber on Teen Mom?

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2 minutes ago, Lambie said:

I'll give Larry a potential benefit of the doubt: I dated someone with the most Italian last name ever but his mother was Jewish and he was raised in the Jewish faith. He ate bacon though. And shellfish. But still...

 

My heart breaks for Karine. She is smart enough to know that Paul is a psychotic loser and I loved when she was telling him off. But then she realized she was losing her potential visa and said she forgave him. No woman should have to suffer that to escape poverty. Abby seems smarter and is definitely a hustler but she's in the same boat. She may be more savvy -- getting laptops and iPads -- but she's at the will of 2 disgusting men to get ahead. I'm not sure what to think about Jenny. She's a robot, "yes, my love." "no, my love." She knows the game well enough though. If she does last with Larry it will be literally to the day she can get divorced and not lose her green card status. 

 

Patrick doesn't bother me. Men run shirtless around here all the time. I think he's making the best out of a crappy situation not knowing about the boyfriend and he's trying to win her over. I actually think they're cute together. I'd like one of these moronic couples to be somewhat genuine. 

 

I love how Courtney thinks she's in charge yet that doofus has let her down at every turn (the airport, being late to meet her, taking her to a beauty pageant..." She acted like she *finally* deemed him worthy for sex when really that's been number one on her agenda from the jump. 

Karine is about the only sympathetic person on this show for me.  She seems to be very sweet and does not seem stupid.  Jenny, I'm on the fence about.  I don't know if she is a scammer or sincere.  All the rest seem like either idiots, psychos or scammers.  Maybe not Patrick and Myriam, but their whole "relationship" seems pointless and hopeless.  

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I'm not going to bash Larry for not eating the pig. I'm a vegetarian & I think that's gross. But i know plenty of omnivires who would also find it gross, for various reasons. Just like the Americans are expected to adapt to the nonAmerican customs, the nonAmericans need to adapt as well. I seriously doubt the family would be that offended by a foreigner not wanting the food. Did Jenny discuss this feast with him beforehand? I just hope the family didn't pay for the food.

I guess for me a pig roast is a pretty normal "American" thing. I go to at least one if not two or three each summer. You go get a pig at the butcher shop bury it in the ground, cover with banana leaves and hot coals and let cook for 12 hours or so. It is the best thing ever. If I knew ahead of time I was picky and going to a family meal I would probably say I was vegetarian ahead of time to avoid any really outside my comfort zone animal products, chicken feet are outside my comfort zone. Larry was just plain rude.

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16 minutes ago, ethalfrida said:

Listen, some people are grossed out by food that is shown in its entirety. My son was going to cook chicken for a woman he was dating. They went to the store to get it and she had a hissy when he picked up a whole chicken from the showcase! She wasn't going to eat anything like that

Ever since the chicken foot episode on the other show I have had a problem with chicken.   I used to love the wings from Whole Foods, not anymore.

So, there is no way I would of been able to eat any of that pig. But, I would of eaten the rice and tried my best to not offend anyone.

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7 hours ago, Palomar said:

Jenny contacted lots of guys until one actually stuck.  Unfortunately for her it was Larry.  What you see is what you get.

I do understand the reluctance of Larry to eat the pig.  It really turns me off to see the entire pig, head and all, myself.  However, the meat itself IS delicious if you get the vision of the pigs head out of your thoughts.  Regardless, he should have eaten a generous portion and been very complimentary and thankful for the meal that this family presented to him which they mentioned they only do for special occasions.

To be honest, I've always thought that Larry was mentally challenged. There are many mentally challenged people who function in the everyday world (I have a family member who is mentally challenged and holds down a job and is married) but they are not always aware of social situations. Larry really is one of those.  I don't think he had any idea he was being rude....he just tells it like it is.  There is no way Jenny will have the patience to be married to someone like Larry.  But, she might just go ahead with a marriage and get the green card and take off....he is ripe to be taken advantage of that is for sure.

I think he does have a lower IQ but he also strikes me as someone who could potentially fall on the autism spectrum (awkwardness, trouble understanding social cues/situations, difficulty empathizing) with some social anxiety thrown in. (I’m a therapist)

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12 hours ago, Alonzo Mosely FBI said:

This! Did someone really get shot? Did Karine get her phone back out of the guys cold dead hands ? 

I did NOT miss Jesse and Darcy this week. At all.

I did laugh went Larry went in for the hug on Father Jenny and Father Jenny did the evasive move that Ellen Griswold does when Cousin Eddie goes in for the hug w. Her!! :-)

Yeah, but they did show a preview with Jesse and a ring, at which point my husband got up from the couch and said he needed to vomit.  I guess Darcy took to teetotaler pledge. 

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8 hours ago, jennyf said:

I don’t know if Larry is Jewish or not, but I’m also Jewish and I eat bacon and other pork products as well as shellfish. Many reform and non-practicing Jews do the same. Not eating those things are part of the stricter rules of religion. I think Larry was just being a wuss. 

I'm Jewish too. Most reform Jewish people I know have eaten pork. When the defense was made upthread that Larry is Jewish so he COULDNT eat the pork, I thought, "ok so where is his yarmulke?" Because the only Jewish folks who feel that strongly about pork, also wear yarmulke and tzitzit. So sorry. You have no excuse, Larry!

I don't eat pork but I'm also a vegetarian. The aquaintances of mine who aren't clear on that have in the past served meat and I've eaten some of it. It's just the right thing to do when people go to the trouble to serve you. I couldn't imagine going to another country where rules of etiquette can be drastically different and acting like Larry did. I'm appalled by him and I think Jenny's dad should send him on his way.

What's with these men and their neuroses? Paul and Larry are both ridiculous and Paul still hasn't taken off that long sleeve shirt. He probably reeks because he's too scared to bathe in the poop water. Maybe penis fish swim through the pipes so he can't wash his nasty hands just in case he has to scratch his balls later and an invisible penis fish is clinging to his fingers. 

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6 minutes ago, Drogo said:

Paul: "I could have been there and fought them off and defended her in some way." 

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None of us has a doubt that if Paul had been there, he'd have been hiding behind Karine.

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11 hours ago, CoachWristletJen said:

You make some really good points here. I get that Larry is Jewish, but when he wasn't eating the meat, he didn't say anything about that. He talked about his intestines. I might be wrong here, but I got the impression that it was more about his physical wellbeing than his religious convictions.

And, he still didn't get that he was SO RUDE.

He's not a very bright man.

It was such a kick in the teeth to Jenny's poor family. And, Larry just didn't get it.

What's the learning curve like for this guy, anyway?

I can’t agree with you more.  He is extremely socially awkward for someone working at McDonalds.  The kicker is the clip from the preview when he claims that she was upset and angry because he didn’t eat the food.  He just doesn’t get it!

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18 minutes ago, Drogo said:

Paul: "I could have been there and fought them off and defended her in some way." 

This from a guy who ran away in terror from his own confession. I also missed the part where, when he was told she'd been attacked, he said "Oh my God, is she all right?" or some other suitable response.  

11 minutes ago, Emmeline said:

He is extremely socially awkward for someone working at McDonalds.

How suave does he need to be to work there?  But seriously, he probably functions very well within strict parameters, in a familiar environment.  

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7 hours ago, PamelaMaeSnap said:

We're going back to Paris for a few days (actually bracketing a river cruise in Burgundy with a few days in Paris on either side) and while there are several places I want to go that we didn't get to the first time, that is one place I REALLY want to revisit (Sacre Coeur, Montmartre, etc.)

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3 hours ago, Cherrio said:

So, there is no way I would of been able to eat any of that pig. But, I would of eaten the rice and tried my best to not offend anyone.

I'm not a big fan of pork, or food with the head still attached...so this would not have been my meal of choice.  But yeah, I would have had SOME and loaded up on rice and veggies.  And if I was having GI problems (as Larry was afraid he would have diarrhea) then mostly rice.  

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Karine's phone was gold and flat, but the one she used to call her mom in this episode was silver and bedazzled (is that still a thing?)  Probably a producer's phone she had to borrow. 

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2 hours ago, goofygirl said:

Yep, looks like Darcey went for the ring and gave up the wine,  I wonder how long that will last?

Not long. I'm guessing she was tipsy on the plane ride home!

Some people use alcohol to relax at the end of the day or to celebrate with friends... birthdays, family dinners, etc.

That's not easy to give up, but it can be done.

It's like asking someone to give up desserts. It sucks, but it can be done.

However, Darcey was using alcohol to cope when she was upset. That's a different thing entirely. In my experience, that's very hard to break. It's going to take help, and she's going to have to want to do it for herself. Right now, she's just doing it for Jesse.

I'm sure Jesse is more than willing to jump in there and start therapizing her or whatever. She probably has a glass of wine after each time they Skype because he stresses her out so much.

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4 hours ago, Lambie said:

My heart breaks for Karine. She is smart enough to know that Paul is a psychotic loser and I loved when she was telling him off. But then she realized she was losing her potential visa and said she forgave him. No woman should have to suffer that to escape poverty. Abby seems smarter and is definitely a hustler but she's in the same boat. She may be more savvy -- getting laptops and iPads -- but she's at the will of 2 disgusting men to get ahead. I'm not sure what to think about Jenny. She's a robot, "yes, my love." "no, my love." She knows the game well enough though. If she does last with Larry it will be literally to the day she can get divorced and not lose her green card status. 

I get cold comfort from the fact that she has the sense to realize that she's stuck with a volatile dud, at least for now. Once she gets to the United States, it won't take her very long to break free from him. She'll be able to get restraining orders for real. As long as that joker helps her get a work visa, she should be okay in the end as long as she works on her English. Then a divorce and a permanent green card.

It will be easy to show that the marriage couldn't work out because she was stuck with a criminal.

Jenny cast a wide net and Larry was the first one she caught. She would like to throw him back, but she knows she can't do any better. She's probably been at this for quite some time. She'll definitely wear the pants in that relationship. And she can't wait to get rid of him.

And Abby can't wait to get rid of Sean.

These people are so insanely dumb.

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2 hours ago, Drogo said:

Paul: "I could have been there and fought them off and defended her in some way." 

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Run for the bodoc, run for the bodoc !!

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I did not enjoy this week's episode of Patrick's Got Talent.

Worse than his backflips and mugging for the camera is the trick he's trying to pull on Myriam -- pretending to be a friend and confidante while shamelessly trying to undermine her relationship for his advantage.   I think it would be great if Boyfriend Myriam shows up next week and kicks Patrick's happity ass.

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Larry could have pulled a Mama Chantel and said "It smells a-MAZ-ing" like she did before Chicken Feet Gate, but then refused to eat the pork citing a fake allergy or digestive issue. Or, he could have been like Mohammed when he refused to kiss Daniele at the wedding and cited religious regions. He might have choked down a couple of bites of that yummy white meat then switched to the rice. Can you imagine if they had presented the guest of honor with a special delicacy like the EYEBALLS! 

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14 hours ago, ethalfrida said:

Listen, some people are grossed out by food that is shown in its entirety. My son was going to cook chicken for a woman he was dating. They went to the store to get it and she had a hissy when he picked up a whole chicken from the showcase! She wasn't going to eat anything like that. So he asked her what did she think chicken looked like and she honestly could not reconcile the two. 

And what if the show knew he had faith reasons behind some of his choices but pushed the family to have the traditional roasted meat? IDK, he just doesn't seem THAT uncouth. He's not a smooth cool daddy-o but he would have to have some type of presence in order to have a job even at McD's.

And does anyone else thing Molly (the bra lady) looks and talks like Amber on Teen Mom?

This poor family, truly poor family probably spent a month or more wages on that pig. It is disrespectful becuase of the situation this family is in and they spent money on somethign they themselves rarely get to eat. A celebration meal, they were honoring him.  It has nothign to do with food preferences, its disrespectful toward them giving him a true gift. Just eat the dang pig once. I've worked in some of these places and its possibly the worst thing you  could ever do is turn down the gift of food. 

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