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S06.E06: Hooray for Holy Land!

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15 minutes ago, Hockey Addict said:

I hate to break it to Asa but not everyone in the world sees and thinks as she does. A fact, use it as you wish.

I know a lot of people just like Asa.

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1 hour ago, Rahul said:

The veil (or should I say burkha) has been lifted and Asa's true colors are finally showing. She can no longer hide behind the facade of Persian pop priestess espousing ideals of love, acceptance, peace and unity. It was utterly telling that Asa could not even feign a few moments of sympathy for MJ during the dinner at House Number 3.  Instead she whips out her phone to take pictures of her food while MJ is in tears.

Asa has never been my favorite but I must have been one of the few that truly believed she came from a good place and always wanted harmony for their circle of friends. I don't think so anymore. That bitch probably doesn't have a genuine bone in her body. I'm willing to bet she had IVF treatments from one of the frozen embryos.

I've always found Asa's over top top artistic antics amusing (for example, I was cracking up the first time she did her talking head interview with the gold necklace over her face) but her inauthenticity is now vexing. I won't be sad to see her leave the show.

Despite knowing what it is like to be ostracized as he indicated in his histrionic yet all-too-familiar crying speech, Reza has done exactly that to almost every member of the group except Asa (who might actually deserve it). Has he learned nothing from his childhood? That man is utterly loathsome in carrying on the cycle of emotional abuse.

I agree, each season, Asa reveals just enough, accidentally though, that she isn't what she pretends to be. Asa is Reza's number 1 sidekick when he goes after someone!

54 minutes ago, nexxie said:

I get what you're saying - but for me MJ is insufferable and Asa sufferable, so...

Nahhh, Asa is as bad as MJ, worse at times IMO. As an example, last season, Asa went to the hospital to watch GG get a chemo treatment for her RA, she even spoke with GG's family/the Dr. while there but then she stood by Reza when he called GG a liar and a hypochondriac about it and she never corrected him or told him to stfu, instead, she helped him pounce on GG even further. Which makes her just as nasty as Reza, who is the worst of them all. Also, MJ wasn't the one telling other to be "real, honest" about their lives while hiding her own, that was none other than Asa herself. LOL

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I must not pay good attention to these people. What were Mike and MJ being fake about last season? The only thing I remember is Mike pretending he wasn't a hoe.

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1 hour ago, WireWrap said:

Nahhh, Asa is as bad as MJ, worse at times IMO. As an example, last season, Asa went to the hospital to watch GG get a chemo treatment for her RA, she even spoke with GG's family/the Dr. while there but then she stood by Reza when he called GG a liar and a hypochondriac about it and she never corrected him or told him to stfu, instead, she helped him pounce on GG even further. Which makes her just as nasty as Reza, who is the worst of them all. Also, MJ wasn't the one telling other to be "real, honest" about their lives while hiding her own, that was none other than Asa herself. LOL

As I said, FOR ME mj is insufferable - imo her poor-me routine is too much, and she is obnoxious, from attitude to clothing to filthy apartment. I'd like to see her wearing one of Asa's kaftans and sitting in a therapist's office!

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18 hours ago, walnutqueen said:

MJ - needing a kidney and needing a baby are not the same.  And, only being willing to marry Tommy if he knocks you up, but otherwise refusing to consider marriage because he eats hard candy, smokes around your dog, and likes the Mets ...  I have no words for your ignorant ample ass.

Amen.  It almost sounds more like if he can't actually impregnate her, she wouldn't date him after this.  Talk about twisted logic.  "I like him enough to get pregnant and married, but I hate that he smokes around the dog, eats hard candy, and likes the Mets."

I'm hoping this is MJ's attempt to be cute and to have the will she-or-won't-she marry him storyline.

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That bit where Mike mentions Asa using the "miracle" word after freezing embryos cracked me up - "pretty fucking impressive" he says with that creepy, sly expression. HA!

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1 hour ago, Watermelon said:

I must not pay good attention to these people. What were Mike and MJ being fake about last season? The only thing I remember is Mike pretending he wasn't a hoe.

Asa didn't get to specific if I remember correctly, her comments were about Mike's divorce and blaming MJ for what Vida said about her, Asa, on WWHL. It was more of a blanket statement against them. She basically called them out for things she herself does, not sharing her real life on the show. 

30 minutes ago, nexxie said:

As I said, FOR ME mj is insufferable - imo her poor-me routine is too much, and she is obnoxious, from attitude to clothing to filthy apartment. I'd like to see her wearing one of Asa's kaftans and sitting in a therapist's office!

I don't like any of them but I find Asa and Reza to be the most insincere and fake of the group. I find the "Persian Priestess" act as phony as I find MJ's feet to be filthy! LOL

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I don't get Asa.  If she doesn't want to open up.  If she doesn't want to share her life, then what the heck is she doing on a reality show?  She needs to get off the show and become the Virgin Mother, or whatever she wants to be.  

I didn't like MJ saying "bastard child" at all, but fuck, Asa acts like she's pregnant with the second coming.  I was glad Mike defended MJ from nasty Asa and even GG defended MJ.  Asa needs to STFU and get the fuck off this show.  

So Asa already froze her eggs/embryos and then lied to MJ about doing it.  I don't believe it was "au natural" at all, unless by "au natural" you mean "au scientific."

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10 minutes ago, WireWrap said:

I don't like any of them but I find Asa and Reza to be the most insincere and fake of the group. I find the "Persian Priestess" act as phony as I find MJ's feet to be filthy! LOL

To me Asa seems like someone doing the show to promote her business - thus, the wardrobe of mostly kaftans - but she also wants to protect the Jacksons from unwanted press. She may be a little aloof - but also very aware of manipulative, untrustworthy people. I'd rather go to dinner or travel with Asa than most of the others because she doesn't behave like a rude, drunken slob.

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1 minute ago, nexxie said:

To me Asa seems like someone doing the show to promote her business - thus, the wardrobe of mostly kaftans - but she also wants to protect the Jacksons from unwanted press. She may be a little aloof - but also very aware of manipulative, untrustworthy people. I'd rather go to dinner or travel with Asa than most of the others because she doesn't behave like a rude, drunken slob.

Then MJ's mom was right.  Asa is using the show as her own personal home shopping channel.

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1 minute ago, Neurochick said:

Then MJ's mom was right.  Asa is using the show as her own personal home shopping channel.

Paid advertizing - but she's the one getting paid. Not a bad gig, if you can get it.

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Just now, nexxie said:

Paid advertizing - but she's the one getting paid. Not a bad gig, if you can get it.

If that's the case, Asa should have said, "damn straight," instead of getting all upset.  

Still can't stand the Holy Mother Asa though.

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Just now, Neurochick said:

If that's the case, Asa should have said, "damn straight," instead of getting all upset.  

Still can't stand the Holy Mother Asa though.

I don't know when that accusation was made, but of course Asa wouldn't admit it - just like Bethenny Frankel probably wouldn't admit it.

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5 minutes ago, nexxie said:

I don't know when that accusation was made, but of course Asa wouldn't admit it - just like Bethenny Frankel probably wouldn't admit it.

It was made during one of the reunions.  And of course Asa had to make it ALL about her.  Why the fuck did Asa feel the need to stand up and share that she wasn't going to share the sex of her baby and then she shares it.  

I laughed when MJ told the truth about Asa.  Asa froze male embryos and now she's having a boy?  Coincidence, or science?

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3 minutes ago, Neurochick said:

It was made during one of the reunions.  And of course Asa had to make it ALL about her.  Why the fuck did Asa feel the need to stand up and share that she wasn't going to share the sex of her baby and then she shares it.  

I laughed when MJ told the truth about Asa.  Asa froze male embryos and now she's having a boy?  Coincidence, or science?

I'll have to watch that scene again, but I think there was time edited out between MJ first crying and Asa standing up to speak. In any case, imo MJ never stops making it about herself with her endless tears and whining.

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Tonight's observation ....Asa looked beautiful at the Dead Sea. Pregnancy suits her when her makeup isn't overdone

Shervin, guess what? You look exactly like an  Jewish Israeli... I've been there

GiGi, just grow up.... people of all religions pray at the Western Wall... you stood out like a sore thumb because you were sulking and being a bitch

why do I find this show the best of all Bravos crap??? I will never understand it but I love The Shahs!

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23 minutes ago, The Real Real said:

Shervin, guess what? You look exactly like an  Jewish Israeli... I've been there

Was he kidding when he said he looked Palestinian, not Israeli? These people are too much! 

What happened to GG's debilitating RA? Not a word about it this season and last season she was in such pain every day she could barely function. So she said. It kills me how people build an entire storyline around a season and then after they go on hiatus and come back you don't hear a word about what was such a big deal before. 

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1 hour ago, nexxie said:

That bit where Mike mentions Asa using the "miracle" word after freezing embryos cracked me up - "pretty fucking impressive" he says with that creepy, sly expression. HA!

I'm really liking Mike this year.

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57 minutes ago, The Real Real said:

Tonight's observation ....Asa looked beautiful at the Dead Sea. Pregnancy suits her when her makeup isn't overdone

Shervin, guess what? You look exactly like an  Jewish Israeli... I've been there

GiGi, just grow up.... people of all religions pray at the Western Wall... you stood out like a sore thumb because you were sulking and being a bitch

why do I find this show the best of all Bravos crap??? I will never understand it but I love The Shahs!

And did Gigi really have to wear an outfit that looked like military fatigues on that particular day?

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I just stumbled onto this show.  I kept waiting for these trash bags to stumble back to their trailer park.  And Reza looks like Freddie Mercury after swallowing Peter Griffin.  

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2 hours ago, nexxie said:

To me Asa seems like someone doing the show to promote her business - thus, the wardrobe of mostly kaftans - but she also wants to protect the Jacksons from unwanted press. She may be a little aloof - but also very aware of manipulative, untrustworthy people. I'd rather go to dinner or travel with Asa than most of the others because she doesn't behave like a rude, drunken slob.

She didn't have any "businesses" when the show first started, she introduced her "diamond" water 3 - 4 seasons ago (it failed) as her first try, then started the kaftan business the following season. JJ doesn't have to be on the show, that is his decision but that doesn't mean that Asa can hide that she is in a long term relationship, like she did for years. Asa has no business calling out anyone else for what they chose to keep private when she keeps so much of her own life off camera as well. 

True, Asa doesn't get drunk but she helps wind the others up so that they act out. As for going on a trip with her, don't let her make the plans because you will find that the most interesting parts of the trip are for her only and you are excluded (like she does the rest of the cast). 

2 hours ago, nexxie said:

I don't know when that accusation was made, but of course Asa wouldn't admit it - just like Bethenny Frankel probably wouldn't admit it.

Bethenny admits that she uses the show to promote her SG crap, that it is the main reason she is back on it. 

2 hours ago, nexxie said:

I'll have to watch that scene again, but I think there was time edited out between MJ first crying and Asa standing up to speak. In any case, imo MJ never stops making it about herself with her endless tears and whining.

There was no break, no editing at play there, MJ's face was still wet from crying when Asa interrupted them to first admonish them for not being her "good friends" and then to make her announcement. Even in her TH, filmed later, she says that she had no sympathy for what MJ/her dad were going through. Imagine how Asa would flip if MJ said that had it been Asa going through this with her mom. 

1 hour ago, bichonblitz said:

Was he kidding when he said he looked Palestinian, not Israeli? These people are too much! 

What happened to GG's debilitating RA? Not a word about it this season and last season she was in such pain every day she could barely function. So she said. It kills me how people build an entire storyline around a season and then after they go on hiatus and come back you don't hear a word about what was such a big deal before. 

GG mentioned, in passing, that she was feeling much better this year health wise, that her pain was either gone or much less. I guess the chemo treatments worked for her. 

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2 hours ago, nexxie said:

I'll have to watch that scene again, but I think there was time edited out between MJ first crying and Asa standing up to speak. In any case, imo MJ never stops making it about herself with her endless tears and whining.

It was a miracle of editing.  That scene of her saying the sex came out of nowhere.  Continuity and Bravo and not very cohesive.

The part the bugged me the most was MJ saying she was drinking to excess because she was saying good bye to her childhood.  Girl is 45.  45!

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I still don't understand why Destiny is on this show. She's like a wannabe poor man's poor man's Kartrashian. (Not that the other's aren't, but there's something lacking about her). I'm totally channeling "She doesn't even go here!" from Mean Girls. 

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40 minutes ago, WireWrap said:

 

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I have family with R.A and one day they're in a wheel chair and next week they're walking better than I do. It goes through phases and she appears to be in remission.

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4 hours ago, Mu Shu said:

And Reza looks like Freddie Mercury after swallowing Peter Griffin.  

You may well have just slain me with that one.  

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Hi Guys! And to Mike S.---I'm 59 years old. My Mother was 41 when she had me. Naturally. There were no other choices in 1958! SO you can shut it. I've had plenty of Aunts & friend also, who have had "change of life babies". Go read a biology book. Woman get pregnant after 40! And trust & believe NO ONE in my family has $$$ for artificial anything!

I have no sympathy for MJ. NONE. My parents are in a nursing home & I would NEVER leave the state, much less the country, if they were that ill! 

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13 hours ago, nexxie said:

To me Asa seems like someone doing the show to promote her business - thus, the wardrobe of mostly kaftans - but she also wants to protect the Jacksons from unwanted press. She may be a little aloof - but also very aware of manipulative, untrustworthy people. I'd rather go to dinner or travel with Asa than most of the others because she doesn't behave like a rude, drunken slob.

13 hours ago, nexxie said:

Paid advertizing - but she's the one getting paid. Not a bad gig, if you can get it.

13 hours ago, Neurochick said:

If that's the case, Asa should have said, "damn straight," instead of getting all upset.  

Still can't stand the Holy Mother Asa though.

 

10 hours ago, WireWrap said:

She didn't have any "businesses" when the show first started, she introduced her "diamond" water 3 - 4 seasons ago (it failed) as her first try, then started the kaftan business the following season. JJ doesn't have to be on the show, that is his decision but that doesn't mean that Asa can hide that she is in a long term relationship, like she did for years. Asa has no business calling out anyone else for what they chose to keep private when she keeps so much of her own life off camera as well. 

True, Asa doesn't get drunk but she helps wind the others up so that they act out. As for going on a trip with her, don't let her make the plans because you will find that the most interesting parts of the trip are for her only and you are excluded (like she does the rest of the cast). 

Bethenny admits that she uses the show to promote her SG crap, that it is the main reason she is back on it. 

 

 

Asa has always been on this show to promote Asa. First, it was her music, which went nowhere. 

 

Then it was diamond water and her art. Her art went nowhere and she designed her diamond water bottles too tall to fit on grocery shelves. They have gone nowhere. Finally, it's Asa Kaftans and her dumb book, Golden: Empowering Rituals to Conjure Your Inner Priestess. Her Kaftans are successful. Her book...

The woman has never been candid or forthcoming, but expects others to be. It's unbelievably hypocritical.

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On 8/20/2017 at 8:53 PM, HunterHunted said:

It is. A woman's fertility starts rapidly declining after 35. There are about 4 million births every year in the US. About 4,000 births are to women 45 or older.

That statement is based on outdated information.  It was taken from French women in the 1600s, I believe.  Your fertility does drop but not the huge amounts that people have said.  This video explains it and gives sources  

Remember that monstrosity of an outfit that MJ wore to the party, that beige pantsuit with the criss cross boob covers?  I found someone wearing a top like that and it fit and looked pretty darn good for what it was. Of all people, it's Bethanny Frankel, and I'm actually pretty surprised that I kind of like it.  MJ's top was, for once, too big.  

 

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And speaking of too big, MJ's boobs were too big for that plaid thing she was wearing.  I was utterly horrified that she knowingly let her tit pop out when talking to her dad.  It was almost like she wanted him to have one last chance at seeing a boob that wasn't in Playboy.  That whole scene, talking to her dad, repeatedly recovering her breast, even her boyfriend telling her that they need to be covered up...it as rather incestuous. I would imagine when she's 60 years old she'll go around in an unbuttoned housecoat, talking to the delivery guy with  ratty hair a bottle of booze in one hand and a cigarette dangling from her lip.  She'd be in one of these things, which I guess technically is a duster:

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3 hours ago, HunterHunted said:

Asa has always been on this show to promote Asa. First, it was her music, which went nowhere. 

 
 

 

Then it was diamond water and her art. Her art went nowhere and she designed her diamond water bottles too tall to fit on grocery shelves. They have gone nowhere. Finally, it's Asa Kaftans and her dumb book, Golden: Empowering Rituals to Conjure Your Inner Priestess. Her Kaftans are successful. Her book...

The woman has never been candid or forthcoming, but expects others to be. It's unbelievably hypocritical.

You are much kinder than I am, I never considered her music/art business attempts!  She really does believe she is all that and a box of chocolate doesn't she? LOL

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10 minutes ago, WireWrap said:

You are much kinder than I am, I never considered her music/art business attempts!  She really does believe she is all that and a box of chocolate doesn't she? LOL

They ALL do.

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14 minutes ago, Willowsmom said:

They ALL do.

LOL, Yes, they all think they are special but Asa more so IMO. She really believes that she is THE special snowflake of the SOS crew. LOL

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These women all look like Persian versions of Dog the bounty Hunters wife to me, especially the very fugly, sloppy one.

Trashy asses.  They make the Kardashians look like Klassy Hos.  At least the Kards are extremely attractive women.  These hoo haws are busted, except maybe the little one who looks like a cute ferret. 

The shit I watch !  I think this is the wall for me, though.  

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On 8/21/2017 at 4:28 PM, Giselle said:

 

Asa will never hurt for money even if they never marry or they break up. 

Does Jermaine Jr. have any money??  I thought it was publicized that Michael's 4 brothers were all extremely broke.  I think Michael was the only one with any money in that family, now his kids have it.

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With this show I constantly find myself asking - Are these people really friends? Do they even like each other?  

I ask because my friends and I don't treat each other like this.  

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Asa definitely isn't friends with anyone from the group (though she appears to actually like Reza's husband, but he's pretty shady, himself). I'd also argue that GG's not friends with anyone on the show, save for Mike because of their history. Reza and MJ are toxic twins. I've seen duos like them, and it's best to stay out of their orbit. 

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I think the toxic twins are GG and Mike. Have they ever taken a trip together without getting into drama and fighting? I would avoid Reza and MJ too, as they'd double team anyone who'd try to come between them.

Hey Shahs, bring back the food porn. Just not in MJ's house for sanitations sake. 

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11 minutes ago, cyberfruit said:

'd also argue that GG's not friends with anyone on the show, save for Mike because of their history

I am pretty sure she and Shervin are friends, he is BFF with her cousin and they hangout when not filming.

 

3 minutes ago, Mindthinkr said:

Have they ever taken a trip together without getting into drama and fighting?

GG really hasn't had any fights/drama with the group this trip. She even shared her issue with Reza with him the next day in an adult manner. And she was low key when people were confronting Asa just saying that she wished Asa would feel comfortable and share more with her.

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On 8/21/2017 at 10:18 PM, nexxie said:

And did Gigi really have to wear an outfit that looked like military fatigues on that particular day?

Wow,  what a good observation! 

On 8/22/2017 at 0:21 AM, Willowsmom said:

I have family with R.A and one day they're in a wheel chair and next week they're walking better than I do. It goes through phases and she appears to be in remission.

You are so right! You do have flare ups.... some days are better than other. I think the producers are the one that decide if they are going to focus on GGs RA or not

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On ‎8‎/‎21‎/‎2017 at 11:50 PM, MVFrostsMyPie said:

I still don't understand why Destiny is on this show. She's like a wannabe poor man's poor man's Kartrashian. (Not that the other's aren't, but there's something lacking about her). I'm totally channeling "She doesn't even go here!" from Mean Girls. 

I think they are introducing Destiny this season to be the eventual replacement for Asa.  I doubt she will return next season now that she has a baby.  I for one will take Destiny over Asa any day.  Asa is such a hypocritical self-involved pretentious phony wanna-be artist I can't stand it.  AFAIC she can take her organic cotton caftan clad baby and get off my tv!!!

Oh...and if her an Reza are such true friends that she talks to him about stuff that no one else knows, then how come he didn't know she was preggers until she was 5 months along??  Or was that whole scene fake and he knew all along?  Either way it's shitty....if he didn't know, then you aren't as close friends as you think, and if he did know than HE AND ASA are the fake ones for not admitting it! 

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