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Paul is the creepiest creep who ever crept.  Even if he didn't have a criminal background, his awkwardness would keep him single forever and ever and ever.  Unfortunately (or fortunately for him) the language barrier is disguising how weird and cringe inducing everything he does is.  

 

The reason he was looking in the Amazonian for a woman is that no American women will give him attention that doesn't involve the use of pepper spray or a rape whistle.  

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38 minutes ago, PityFree said:

Paul is the creepiest creep who ever crept.  Even if he didn't have a criminal background, his awkwardness would keep him single forever and ever and ever.  Unfortunately (or fortunately for him) the language barrier is disguising how weird and cringe inducing everything he does is.  

 

The reason he was looking in the Amazonian for a woman is that no American women will give him attention that doesn't involve the use of pepper spray or a rape whistle.  

This is where I have a problem with this show. It does a lot of image damage to that other country where the spoused is being hatched.  It is always some disturbed Ameircan guy with the obvious reasons like being mentally unstable or financially insecure that travels across the world and finds a vulnerable girl. I understand this kind of scenario gives good ratings, but i would rather watch something more realistic & inspiring. 

Yes, no American woman in her right mind would take Paul or Sean. What the show fails to portray (or the public fails to understand thus creating a bad stereotype is that no woman in that other country in her right mind would take those guys either. Sure, Amazonian teenager living in a shack is probably bursting with happiness for having found her prince charming, but take a girl living in Sao Paolo with education & good job & healthy mentality and she would laugh herself to a heart attack if she gets approached by someone like Paul. 

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Her dad looked pissed, but like he lacked control over the situation. The cameras there didn't help, but I'm guessing that's why he didn't argue about her going to the hotel. He also said that Karine 'knows what she wants', & the way he said it struck me he meant she wants to get to the US. She's not innocent at all, with the way she seemed upset Paul didn't want sex right away. To me it seemed like she was worried he wasn't impressed enough & was changing his mind. Her behavior, to me, falls right in line with the pics & videos showed where she was pretty much advertising herself.

Paul has a pointy chin & that beard pointing down makes me imagine him with little horns on his head.

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52 minutes ago, gonecrackers said:

Her dad looked pissed, but like he lacked control over the situation. The cameras there didn't help, but I'm guessing that's why he didn't argue about her going to the hotel. He also said that Karine 'knows what she wants', & the way he said it struck me he meant she wants to get to the US. She's not innocent at all, with the way she seemed upset Paul didn't want sex right away. To me it seemed like she was worried he wasn't impressed enough & was changing his mind. Her behavior, to me, falls right in line with the pics & videos showed where she was pretty much advertising herself.

Paul has a pointy chin & that beard pointing down makes me imagine him with little horns on his head.

Brazilian women are proud of their bodies and wearing skimpy clothes and swimwear is no big deal.  It does not make them promiscuous.  Like women everywhere, they come in all shapes and sizes. 

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10 minutes ago, Arwen Evenstar said:

Brazilian women are proud of their bodies and wearing skimpy clothes and swimwear is no big deal.  It does not make them promiscuous.  Like women everywhere, they come in all shapes and sizes. 

I did not ever call her 'promiscuous', nor did I ever call all Brazilian women promiscuous as implied. Maybe she's genuinely 'in love' with Paul. Maybe she just wants out. By 'advertising', I meant she was trying to attract someone to get her to the US; that's all.

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1 minute ago, gonecrackers said:

I did not call her 'promiscuous'. Maybe she's genuinely 'in love' with Paul. Maybe she just wants out. By 'advertising', I meant she was trying to attract someone to get her to the US; that's all.

Sorry, I wasn't implying you did. She could very well be in love with him or want out or both.  

I was trying to say and maybe I said it badly, that wearing a swimsuit or shaking her booty that she may not have been advertising, just being Brazilian.n

I too was a bit surprised she was disappointed that he wanted to hold off on being intimate with her, this same girl who seem all My Little Pony.

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Sure could be her just being playful or whatever, Arwen... my thought was the pics & vids were sent as an incentive for him to get her out of there; at least that's how I was interpreting it. Much like her not having a problem having sex with the guy after just meeting him & then being confused about him wanting to wait, like maybe she thought he was changing his mind about her.

I still think his pointy beard is somewhat satanic.

If her end game is the US she'd have been better off starting over & letting her retired law enforcement dad vet the guys for her.

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5 hours ago, gonecrackers said:

Sure could be her just being playful or whatever, Arwen... my thought was the pics & vids were sent as an incentive for him to get her out of there; at least that's how I was interpreting it. Much like her not having a problem having sex with the guy after just meeting him & then being confused about him wanting to wait, like maybe she thought he was changing his mind about her.

I still think his pointy beard is somewhat satanic.

If her end game is the US she'd have been better off starting over & letting her retired law enforcement dad vet the guys for her.

Maybe she couldn't resist a man in a mosquito suit.  It's always been a fantasy of mine. ?

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16 hours ago, Desert Rat said:

How do you say "serial killer" in Portuguese?

 

14 hours ago, Landlord said:

assassino em série. 

Soon, in Tonatins the colloquialism used for serial killer will be "Bo Dock Pól"

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28 minutes ago, EastCoast4Life said:

I know it's petty, but I hate his tiny shoulders! He practically looks frail. His little noodle arms, and tiny sloping shoulders are just... not attractive.

would that make me uber petty to say that I find his face and personality (basically his entire being) to be just... not attractive?

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Aren't people on probation prohibited from leaving the country? He is beyond creepy!

I hope the people that saw him w/his shirt off were wearing protective eyewear! He is so white!! I almost never go out in the sun so I am white, but I have never seen anything like that! 

Oh, I was also wondering about her name & if he is pronouncing her name correctly. I've never heard of anyone pronouncing their name Karin-e. Makes me wonder if the E is supposed to be silent. 

It looked like Karine was a little freaked out by his creepiness but what could she do? Judging by his criminal past it looks like it would be a bad idea to break up with him. I dont think she had any idea what she was getting herself into. I dont think ANYONE who meets someone (who lives a long distance away) online knows what they're getting. They all act like they know the person inside out but unless you've met that persons friends, or seen how that person acts when they're angry or have had a bad day you don't really know them. When your skyping with someone they are on their best behavior. There's no way you can really know someone from talking on the phone and skyping with them.

Darcey seemed to learn that lesson the hard way. Before she met Jesse in person she was acting like a lovesick 15 year old. Actually she was still acting like that even after they met. It was crazy the way he was ordering her around and talking to her like she was a 3 year old. "She'll put her panties here next to mine, shirts go here, and pants go here...". "don't you want to take your makeup off before we go to bed, I like natural". Every other word out of his mouth was "Beautiful" and every other word out of hers was "engagement ring".  I don't know, judging by the look on his face, he didn't look like he was that impressed by her and when she used the world "bullshit" he seemed a little taken aback (even offended) and definitely embarassed.  I expect when they got back to his apt and were alone he said something like "Youre such a beautiful woman, using that language takes away from your beautiful spirit". I imagine that would be his passive aggressive way of telling her to watch her mouth. 

Those two couples really creep me out.

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7 minutes ago, Cmiller360 said:

Oh, I was also wondering about her name & if he is pronouncing her name correctly. I've never heard of anyone pronouncing their name Karin-e. Makes me wonder if the E is supposed to be silent. 

I thought that was cute, but now that you mention it, it shows what a failure their communication is. He can't even get her NAME straight, and she can't let him know.

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While Brazilian women who live in metropolitan cities across Brazil may indeed show more skin in their daily dress - and not all do - Karine lives in a small Amazonian outpost which is hardly cosmopolitan. I too, would view her dress as culturally inappropriate for where she lives. In addition, Creeper Paul, Idiot 'Murican With Zero Cultural Interest or Common Sense, brings Karine - who is dressed in a very skimpy dress by local rural standards - to a hotel with him in full view of a large group of men who were standing across the street from the hotel. Review that scene, the men are all gathered together on the corner staring at the foreigner and local girl being filmed going into a hotel together. The typical cultural norms in a town/outpost like Karine's is that nice women don't dress like that and they surely dont go into hotels with foreign men to "just talk". Her reputation in her hometown is more than likely ruined at this point, unless she is already known as such a woman and it's no surprise to anyone and the film crew is the attraction (who more than likely stayed at the same hotel if its the best one in town).  I've spent time in places like her town and you're either a nice girl or you're not. Either way, news travels faster than fast, and spending the night, regardless of what actually happens in the room, is not okay if you're not married. They're not in a Ipanema Beach hotel, where her dress and their behavior wouldn't even be looked at twice...I find it unbelievable that Father Karine allowed this and didn't just drag Paul's creepy ass down to the boat docks and put him in a dinghy to sink or swim.

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2 hours ago, Cmiller360 said:

Aren't people on probation prohibited from leaving the country? He is beyond creepy!

No, it depends on the terms of his probation. 

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5 hours ago, gingerella said:

eview that scene, the men are all gathered together on the corner staring at the foreigner and local girl being filmed going into a hotel together. The typical cultural norms in a town/outpost like Karine's is that nice women don't dress like that and they surely dont go into hotels with foreign men to "just talk".

This! I am amazed Paul wasn't very considered or curious about peculiarities of Karine's envrionment & culture. I live in relatively big city, and my side job is related to interacting with a lot of older gentleman from all over the world (sounds like escort, when i tell people, but it is actually for local dog shows). And even I, an adult woman with average looks, get that "aha" grin from hotel staff sometimes. In a small rural setting that Karine lives in, the grin must be wider than the Amazonian river. 

Why do I believe that Paul was just swinging the globe, trying to find the most remote & exotic place where his fame hasn't yet reached the eyes & ears of the locals? He probably looked at South Pole first but then figured no pinguin would ever interact with him, so he went along with plan B. 

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13 hours ago, biakbiak said:

No, it depends on the terms of his probation. 

Also, it's "shock" probation - so he is a less serious offender and his probation/community correction officer would be lenient. 

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On 8/28/2017 at 2:33 AM, Izabel said:

As a 66 years old Brazilian living in the USA for a little over 40 years I am EXTREMELLY concerned about the well being of this young naive 21 year old girl Karine. I am from the northeast of Brazil and culturally this girl will have a shock when she moves to the US and also when she discovers his criminal past.  This girl will have no one to run to if the going gets tough once she moves up here and this guy turns violent with her.  I personally think it is INSANE for a young person to move from one country to another not knowing the language not knowing anyone else but the "fiancée". Are young people SO DESPERATE now a days to find a partner?

exactly, not to mention, she cant even communicate w her partner in the same language w/o a shitty translator app !!!

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23 hours ago, Cmiller360 said:

I hope the people that saw him w/his shirt off were wearing protective eyewear! He is so white!! I almost never go out in the sun so I am white, but I have never seen anything like that! 

There's probably no windows in his mom's basement.  And on top of that, he probably only gets to leave the basement if he sneaks out at night while she's asleep.   This trip is probably the most sun he's ever gotten in his entire life.

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On 8/30/2017 at 11:59 AM, EastCoast4Life said:

I know it's petty, but I hate his tiny shoulders! He practically looks frail. His little noodle arms, and tiny sloping shoulders are just... not attractive.

Well in all fairness nothing about him is attractive.  Nothing.

 

6 hours ago, MrHufflepuff said:

There's probably no windows in his mom's basement.  And on top of that, he probably only gets to leave the basement if he sneaks out at night while she's asleep.   This trip is probably the most sun he's ever gotten in his entire life.

No kidding!  Paul just tees it up for us to mock him!  The folks on this board do it so well, too!!!  

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On 8/21/2017 at 9:24 AM, Gigglepuff said:

I just have to get something off my chest, lol. I hate the term "third world." It's so outdated and offensive to people who live in certain countries. Also, the term doesn't mean what people think it does anyway. Over the last few decades, the term "third world" has taken on a misconstrued meaning and though many third world countries are/were poor, the term was never intended to mean, "poor." By the old standard, Brazil is a third world country, but not for the reasons Paul thinks. He's an idiot, and I kind of hope he gets eaten by piranhas.  

Well, I learned something today! Thanks for making me go look that up. I really appreciate it. My wife will be fascinated. I expect both of us will use "third world" in reference to politics only or not at all (probably not at all since it doesn't have much application anymore). We'll certainly share this information around because it is fascinating. I would bet that most of our families will stop using "third world", as well!

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On 8/24/2017 at 11:39 PM, Arwen Evenstar said:

Yes, thank you! I'm glad to know it wasn't just me who was bothered by the way he brought it up, how judgmental he sounded, and by way of demand rather than broaching the topic in a caring, sensitive way.

Maybe he's the virgin. Any guy whose mother gave him a clump of her hair balled up in a Kleenex on national television is just not going to be getting laid anytime soon.

Oh, you're not the only one. That's for sure. My wife and I were offended on Karine's behalf when we saw that. Even if everything else in his past were absent, that alone would make him an asshole. He's dealing with another human being and one he purports to love; be respectful and compassionate!

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On 8/21/2017 at 7:24 AM, Gigglepuff said:

I just have to get something off my chest, lol. I hate the term "third world." It's so outdated and offensive to people who live in certain countries. Also, the term doesn't mean what people think it does anyway. Over the last few decades, the term "third world" has taken on a misconstrued meaning and though many third world countries are/were poor, the term was never intended to mean, "poor." By the old standard, Brazil is a third world country, but not for the reasons Paul thinks. He's an idiot, and I kind of hope he gets eaten by piranhas.  

Here, here! From international development standards, the term 'Third World' has not been used for a very long time and is considered extremely condescending, colonialistic/paternalistic and patronizing because it referred to people living in impoverished situations outside industrialized countries like America, Europe, Australia, etc. I would liken it to someone using the term 'Oriental' rather than 'Asian'.  'Third World' infers that there are people that are living in a different world than us, which desensitizes us to other realities, and reduces others with less than we have to 'Oh but it's a different world there so...' As in somehow it's okay that people in Africa, Asia, Latin America or elsewhere live with less than, but in OUR a country it's not done. Which is bullshit because a lot of people in rural America live like that, especially in Kentucky.  Karine's family, from what I have experienced in many countries, is not too bad off overall. The fact is, Karine lives in the same world as we all do, and is entitled to the same human rights we all are. We live in one world, there are not three different worlds out there, and every persons existence, no matter how much they have or do not have, is as real and valid as anyone elses is . 

And dumb fucks like Paul - and that supreme douchnozzle Mark of Mark and Nikki - think they're saving these women because they are white knights. fuck that shit. these guys are such damaged goods that's they cannot get a decent human being in their own county so they go prey on women in other countries who maybe want a ticket to a better life and see this as an easy way out and up. I don't understand how this show churns out predatory freaks like Mark, Mohamed, Anfisa and Paul, and the INS isn't taking notes, cracking down on this shit, and sending these assholes home. It boggles the mind...

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7 hours ago, MrSmith said:

Any guy whose mother gave him a clump of her hair balled up in a Kleenex on national television is just not going to be getting laid anytime soon.

That was SO CREEPY.   I wonder if that's what she pictures when she hears or reads about "a lock of hair."   EWWWWW...

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On 8/31/2017 at 0:47 PM, Cmiller360 said:

He is so white!! I almost never go out in the sun so I am white, but I have never seen anything like that! 

I'm old and PALE!  I was a pale redhead before; now my hair is also WHITE!!! Thirty years ago or so one of my friends (another too-white person) said, "I'm so pale my stretch marks glow in the dark."  I stole that line from her and used it ever since (over 40yrs).  I always give her credit.

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2 hours ago, Former Nun said:

I'm old and PALE!  I was a pale redhead before; now my hair is also WHITE!!! Thirty years ago or so one of my friends (another too-white person) said, "I'm so pale my stretch marks glow in the dark."  I stole that line from her and used it ever since (over 40yrs).  I always give her credit.

I'm cottage cheese pale.  Protective eyewear advised.

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On August 27, 2017 at 11:41 PM, LunaMia said:

Here is an article about the current status of Paul and Karine's relationship. Click if you don't mind the spoiler:

http://realityblurb.com/2017/08/26/90-day-fiance-paul-and-karine-update-still-together/#more-1769

Also has information about whether Karine will find out about his past.

Does ANYONE here who clicks on this and looks at those two pictures think for even a nanosecond that those photos are not TOTALLY photoshopped by Paul? The one of him and Karine, her hand seems to be growing out of an unseen limb and the lighting on each of them is completely different. DEFINITELY her photoshopped into his picture ... The other one, I think, is her and her family and who knows who with Paul photoshopped into it. Funny if the network made Paul take it down when it's so obviously not them and him just still laboring under some sort of creepy delusion. 

Just me?

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1 hour ago, PamelaMaeSnap said:

Does ANYONE here who clicks on this and looks at those two pictures think for even a nanosecond that those photos are not TOTALLY photoshopped by Paul? The one of him and Karine, her hand seems to be growing out of an unseen limb and the lighting on each of them is completely different. DEFINITELY her photoshopped into his picture ... The other one, I think, is her and her family and who knows who with Paul photoshopped into it. Funny if the network made Paul take it down when it's so obviously not them and him just still laboring under some sort of creepy delusion. 

Just me?

Not just you.  I am the world's WORST when it comes to picking out photoshopped stuff, but even I could tell the lighting and focus are off here.  Maybe Paul had his mommy do it.

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I'll go back and check to see if I can find stray crumpled hair on the photo! And I'm the same, where I am NOT that observant and I went over to the link thinking it would be legit pix so I did a double and triple take. 

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I had really hoped there was a lot edited out there, but he really did seem to want to get out with her quickly. He also can't actually speak to anyone, & doesn't seem like the most engaging personality even in English.

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His motivation for inviting her to the hotel seemed like he saw the bad conditions she lives in and couldn't have her spend another minute there... That's how he sounded in his comments.

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I think Paul is so awkward, weird, deranged and strange that he needs a girl that is innocent and has no idea what a wack job he is. He will marry her and bring her home where his Mom will teach her how to bathe him and knit him underwear from her hair.

What amazes me is that her family let her go to the motel and ruin her reputation and theirs - unless it  is already ruined?

I believe her father is NOT that kind and understanding and T:C nicely greased his palm.

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Who brings food and a full medical kit on an overseas trip?  And a mosquito net? Why would he chose the Amazon jungle to find love if he's afraid of insects?  And her parents don't even speak English? Really, Pauly Bob Thorton? Frickin' duh!  If THEY did then SHE would. For 65 reals ($20), he could have hired a translator. Total imbecile! And its so disrespectful not to have considered it. Anyway, he picked the right girl. She is darling!  I was married to a Colombian for 9 years. It didn't go the distance, but South America women, if she's sincere, make the best wives in the world.  

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Paul is just embarrassing himself and Karine's father is like what the fuck when Paul was explaining that he is going to propose to her which he is probably think he is going to fuck her 

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1 hour ago, DVDFreaker said:

Paul is just embarrassing himself and Karine's father is like what the fuck when Paul was explaining that he is going to propose to her which he is probably think he is going to fuck her 

I laughed so hard, I had to stop the DVR and have Mr Evenstar come see this clusterfuck for himself.  

Perhaps Paul should try out for the next casting call of An American Idiot Abroad.

That was one heavy duty penis sheath. It was certainly several sizes too big for his little tallywhacker.

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6 minutes ago, Arwen Evenstar said:

 

Perhaps Paul should try out for the next casting call of An American Idiot Abroad.

That was one heavy duty penis sheath. It was certainly several sizes too big for his little tallywhacker.

 

That penis sheath looked like it could have been one of moms knee-hi stockings.......(which he plans to hold on with a condom)

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23 minutes ago, happy hobo said:

That penis sheath looked like it could have been one of moms knee-hi stockings.......(which he plans to hold on with a condom)

LOL...it did look like a heavy duty compression stocking!!!

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On ‎2017‎-‎08‎-‎25 at 1:14 PM, Gigglepuff said:

Yeah, it really does say a lot. It's creepy. If she were at least from one of the bigger cities in Brazil, she wouldn't have to be as dependent on him even if the language and cultural barrier remained. She'd at least be familiar with other cultures and be a little more worldly. This girl is from a remote Amazon village. What power or control could she possible have if she does end up going to the US with him? Zero. She'll be totally dependent on him, which is what I suspect he wants. I know living in a small remote village in the Amazon has it's challenges, but it would be better than moving to a foreign country, not speaking the language, having no resources, being 100% dependent on a creepy mama's boy with a criminal past. What possible support could she find in Kentucky if she ever needed it? I'm not sure, but I'm guessing there's not a whole lot of Portuguese speaking people there in case she ever needed to talk to someone in case of an emergency. 

Totally agree. It is in Karine's best interest to learn English - fast. The language barrier is huge. No friends in the US, no support system, her parents are not wealthy and live in a remote Amazon village with probably minimal phone and Internet service. He holds all the power and the relationship is unequal in every respect - control is not cool. The dude is showing her who he is - the creepy stuffed toys, the insistence on an STD and pregnancy test. My Spidey senses would be at 11 and I would be running. She gets a trip to the US, which might be exciting. She knows little about her husband and probably doesn't really want to find out.  She will be his 'slave' or whatever he wants until she gets on a more equal footing with him - if he allows that. If he allows her to work - which will mean she will be around others. Does she have the ability to call her parents or any relatives living in the US if there is trouble?  Would she know how to call the cops or find a women's shelter if necessary? Is there a Portuguese community in the city in Kentucky? If her dad was on the police force, surely he has some buddies that can do a check on his prospective son-in-law. If there is Internet access, Google the dude's name and see what comes up - few people are ghosts on the Internet. Might be just standard stuff like employment, but if he does have a record there may be newspaper articles about any court cases, criminal records, etc.

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On 8/30/2017 at 9:59 AM, EastCoast4Life said:

I know it's petty, but I hate his tiny shoulders! He practically looks frail. His little noodle arms, and tiny sloping shoulders are just... not attractive.

Also - has anyone noticed that he seems to have a very odd gait?  Or is it just me?  There aren't many clips of him actually walking, and those we do see, cut away rather quickly, but its almost like he limps/tiptoes/wobbles - I can't even quite figure out what I'm seeing.  And he always seems to be holding on to Karine or a banister.  A medical condition perhaps?

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10 minutes ago, Horrified said:

he limps/tiptoes/wobbles

He does sort of tiptoe. That is a type of neurological pathology, but I am sure he was never diagnosed properly, because a ball of his mother's hair a day keeps the doctor away. 

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19 minutes ago, Grumpy Lobster said:

He does sort of tiptoe. That is a type of neurological pathology, but I am sure he was never diagnosed properly, because a ball of his mother's hair a day keeps the doctor away. 

 

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5 hours ago, Horrified said:

Also - has anyone noticed that he seems to have a very odd gait?

It's from walking around with water-filled footie waders for most of his life, I suspect.

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