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Jana is a quite, private person who, yes, has had the spirit in her beaten out of her from when she was a child. This 'coming out' on social media is NOT like her. I"m sure she was instructed by her parents to do this. This grown woman does not like, nor does she seek publicity for herself in the least. Goes against her character from what I have observed about her. After so many years, she is still quite uncomfortable in her TH interviews and by now should be used to doing them and appear quite comfortable. She still does not project this IMO.

I don't buy Jana's appearance as being her own idea or desire. Jana's age,  personal life restrictions and circumstances have now become a bit embarrassing to her parents. Michelle knows she has been doing Jana wrong.

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I agree with the poster who said she’s had social media coaching. Her posts are just too well put together, composed, and secure for a person who just started an IG. Most people’s early posts are relatively awkward until they get the hang of their favorite types of posts and photos but hers are polished off the bat and God knows that none of her sisters (even Jinger who sticks to mostly safe pictures of her husband and kid with minimal captions) have set that example.  I think, like most things Duggar, this isn’t exactly as innocent as they want it to seem.  However, if you are a relatively well known personality, this is definitely the way to go to build a social media presence and I’m glad someone is investing that effort in jana. 

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35 minutes ago, Mojitogirl said:

I agree with the poster who said she’s had social media coaching. Her posts are just too well put together, composed, and secure for a person who just started an IG. Most people’s early posts are relatively awkward until they get the hang of their favorite types of posts and photos but hers are polished off the bat and God knows that none of her sisters (even Jinger who sticks to mostly safe pictures of her husband and kid with minimal captions) have set that example.  I think, like most things Duggar, this isn’t exactly as innocent as they want it to seem.  However, if you are a relatively well known personality, this is definitely the way to go to build a social media presence and I’m glad someone is investing that effort in jana

I agree. Her IG account is polished and well-managed. She's barely arrived on IG and already has 268,000 followers. Her profile photo is very well done, probably shot by a professional. She'll be making money from it in no time. She's already way ahead of clueless Messy Jill, and will probably outpace Jessa one of these days if she keeps posting good stuff. Jessa does have those cute boys but has nothing in the homemaker department which may be the niche Jana's going for.  Leghumpers must be in heaven with all the older Duggar daughters on social media now. And more ka-ching! for the Duggars.

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I hope Jana if she is courting is what she wants. Not her parents. I hope and pray the guy is normal for her sakes. 

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On 1/14/2019 at 11:07 AM, Tasya said:

I think Jana is the best looking of the sisters. Given that, and the general looks focused aspect of Gothard, I have to then believe that her still being single is either forced or completely her choice. I definitely don't believe that some man has never approached the family about "courting" her. It just doesn't make any sense. I hope that it's simply that the people who did approach her, she wasn't interested in and said a firm no, rather than selfishness on her family's part in a desire to keep her there to look after all of their kids. 

does anyone think they had to marry off all the girls josh molested first and this was the reason.  ie. she had to wait until joy turned 18 and was married so they would be able to sue those people for leaking the names of who was molested. notice only the married sisters defended josh back in the day,  since jana wasn't mentioned,  she couldn't  get married until joy was taken care of and they were on a statue of limitations to sue to police for leaking the josh report.  Jim bob is such a grifter, would have been really fucking strategic about getting money out of the city for that report leak.  but would be obsessed with marry off the victims first because his fucked up cultures mind molested girls might be thought of as no longer pure or virgins and would need to snag a good husband before going public. maybe it's why they end up with fundie losers.  people think these 7 year old girls were giving a teenage boy a come hither look or some other fucked up idea.  look at how little they were at the early specials when this was going on when they shaved josh's head.  jessa and joy omg so little...

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I can't help but wonder if the social media presence is out of desperation on JB's part. Jana is nearing 30 and unmarried, a public relations disaster by his standards.  Maybe JB thinks that putting her out there will help to lure a suitably Godly prospect or two.

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12 hours ago, Bayarea4 said:

I can't help but wonder if the social media presence is out of desperation on JB's part. Jana is nearing 30 and unmarried, a public relations disaster by his standards.  Maybe JB thinks that putting her out there will help to lure a suitably Godly prospect or two.

This is exactly what I think.  She’s 29 and not a suitor in sight. If she meets someone tomorrow and follows their typical path, she wouldn’t be married until summer. The earliest she’d be giving birth to JB and Michelle’s latest precious grand baby would be next summer. She’s be 30.5. I think JB is worried his bidders want a younger model that can provide a dozen or more arrows for their quiver.  Jana won’t be able to reach that level starting this late.   

Personally I don’t think jana wants that many - if she wants any.  I want her to have what she wants.  I just wish JB and Michelle did. 

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I think that she might be in a courtship, mostly because we haven't seen any kind of "first look" thing for counting on yet. Makes me think they're waiting to announce some big news close to the air date, and then give us a trailer full of jana + boyfriend moments. Or, she just started courting because JB thinks this season will be a dud, but he can tease TLC with that in his back pocket for next season. I guess we will see!

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Jana herself seems content to live quietly with a female companion in her parents' home. This arrangement may suit Michelle just fine because she has two adult women to relieve her of the burden of childcare and housework. But for Jim Bob, it might be a different story. He might be freaking out about the lesbian rumors floating around in cyberspace - rumors to which Michelle may be in denial or happily oblivious to.

Jim Bob, on the other hand, may see Jana as a threat to the brand. Her lifestyle doesn't conform to the Gothard narrative. She's as close as you can get in Gothard land to an independent single woman. This nonconformity must be deeply threatening to a fundie patriarch like Jim Bob and might make him even more motivated to venture beyond his comfort zone and let Jana have a social media presence so that - in addition to attracting more potential suitors -  she seems more "normal" to fans of the show.

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Laura's latest IG posts make it appear that she has left the Duggars. She identified her home as Indiana, but I am the first to speculate that she could be using diversion tactics to get the Jana/Laura stanners off her jock. She's from Indiana, but she hasn't lived there in years, first at Gothard HQ for several years, then with the Duggars for what, two or three years since Tabby Paine left to marry the anal rapist?

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With the exception of Jill, JB had nothing to do with any of his daughters' marriages. Ben pursued Jessa, Jeremy pursed Jinger with help from Ben and Joy pursued Austin. Maybe JB could have steered Derick toward Jana but Jill was the one who "had a heart for missions" which she had in common with Derick. Jana has said she wants a guy who works with his hands and is around the house a lot. She sounded like she was describing someone like Chad Paine.

Who knows why Jana isn't married. Maybe she is avoiding it, maybe she is desperately longing for the right guy or maybe she's just casually waiting for God to drop a guy in her lap "in His timing".

I'm sure JB wants Jana to be married because in their world that's the way it's supposed to be and maybe he's tried to pair her off without success. IMO, JB has no more control over his children than the average parent other than years of brainwashing. And he had no control over who the girls married other than delaying Jessa's and Ben's marriage by a few months. I also am guessing if JB was controlling these marriages Jessa and Jinger would have different husbands or would still be single. 

JB would like to think he's in control and would like to have the reputation of having control, but IMO he doesn't.

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I think that Jana has trust issues. Her statement after the Josh incident said it to me...'who can you really trust?' were her words.

I also think Michelle is NOT pushing for Jana to find someone that she 'can trust' for marriage because of her own agenda in keeping Jana handy as the housemaid she desperately needs and wants. Lazy, uncaring mother that she is.

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My opinion is that Jana does not know what she wants. When asked a few years ago on the show how she envisions her life in the next 5 years, she shrug her shoulder and had no response other than that she didn't know. This woman does not think for herself other than what she would like to cook or bake that day. She had has her whole life dictated to her by her parents, especially Michelle who handed her a LONG LIST of household/childcare duties. I would like to see a comparative list between Jana and Josie as to what Josie's chores and responsibilities are at this time and Jana's when she was Josie's age. I think the difference would be shocking. I understand that there are 3 older sisters than Josie, but you know what I mean. I'm sure Johanna is shouldering the majority of the duties between the youngest 4 girls. Michelle? side stepping yet again, all of her responsibilities.

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For some reason, Jana's birthday extravaganza with mom made me flip my thoughts on her.

I don't think Jana is sober and mature and waiting for the right guy, or hoping to have a smaller family, or anything else. I think she's LESS mature than her sisters. I think that she's looked at her sisters' less than ideal marriages, and terrifying birth experiences and has a childish fear of it, rather than a reasoned, adult preference for something different. The "carrots" offered to the married siblings like instagram accounts and "date night with mom and dad!" just aren't appealing enough to her to risk leaving the safety of the TTH.

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13 minutes ago, Scarlett45 said:

I don’t think that fear is childish though. 

Personally- if you offered me Jana’s life or Jill’s life I’d take Jana’s in a heart beat. The devil you know is better than the devil you don’t- to me that isn’t being childish it’s being risk averse. 

I don't think I expressed myself well. I agree with you that there is nothing better about Jill's life vs Jana's. My point is that I used to think that Jana made that choice as an adult based on what she wanted for herself in her life. My feeling now is that Jana sees herself as a child, and doesn't want what her sisters have because she doesn't want to deal with the realities of adult life (being fearful and childish as opposed to rational and risk-averse).

YMMV, of course, but I think that we've given Jana a lot of unearned credit on this board simply for remaining single and ascribed motives to her that may not be true. It only took one day of her having her own instagram account before I flipped my thoughts about her.

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2 minutes ago, cmr2014 said:

I don't think I expressed myself well. I agree with you that there is nothing better about Jill's life vs Jana's. My point is that I used to think that Jana made that choice as an adult based on what she wanted for herself in her life. My feeling now is that Jana sees herself as a child, and doesn't want what her sisters have because she doesn't want to deal with the realities of adult life (being fearful and childish as opposed to rational and risk-averse).

YMMV, of course, but I think that we've given Jana a lot of unearned credit on this board simply for remaining single and ascribed motives to her that may not be true. It only took one day of her having her own instagram account before I flipped my thoughts about her.

No it’s okay. We all have different opinions here and it’s good! Michelle is awful, but she is Jana’s Mother, so the birthday extravaganza (and wanting to be with your mom on your bday) is a perfectly normal thing to me. I don’t see that as childish at all.

I too like to spend my bday with my Mom (the actual day, we often go to the spa)- but I have celebrations with my peer group as well. I do wonder what happened to Laura, it was nice for Jana to have a PEER companion to spend time with. 

 

Your Mom being your best friend isn’t odd to me, if she’s your ONLY friend (and you have no close friends that are peers) I give people a side eye. But I’m sure we all know typical people in mainstream society that only hang out with their spouse or their relatives, and I think that’s WEIRD AF, but they think I’m weird for not being in a romantic relationship. People have different social needs and I think our own personal experiences color our interpretations of Jana (and other Duggars). 

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18 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

I don't think it's strange to say your mother is your best friend, but in Jana's case it's not true. Real friendship is reciprocal. Friends appreciate one another, help each other and don't take advantage. Does any of that apply to Michelle? 

Nope cause she’s completly self absorbed. I don’t think Jana knows that though. 

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1 hour ago, BitterApple said:

I don't think it's strange to say your mother is your best friend, but in Jana's case it's not true. Real friendship is reciprocal. Friends appreciate one another, help each other and don't take advantage. Does any of that apply to Michelle? 

It seems to me I've heard at least Jessa -- and maybe Jill -- make that Meeechelle "is my best friend" comment, too.  (Not Joy, of course, because her best friend is Sierra. WTF?) Maybe when they went out to lunch together in the runup to Jessa's wedding?

It must be part of the TTH Catechism. IOW, no actual connection to reality. Nevertheless, an absolute must-say mantra on certain occasions. Hard to know what any of the kids think about those things because they're so programmed to say them.... and it's not clear they actually ever think, since it's not one of the approved activities.

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The cheese post is kinda weird but I guess this is the type of stuff people post these days for attention. They are really working hard to show off Jana.

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I’m not one to be suspicious about every move the Duggars make but I’m pulling out the tin foil hat for Jana’s Instagram.  Every picture is so well polished and composed...what’s their angle here? 

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5 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

"Friends forever"?

Interesting. Remember Jinger saying she and Jana never spent time together until Jessa moved out of the house? Pepperidge Farm remembers....

Maybe Jinger found a man for Jana down in Texas and “friends forever” is the new narrative they are going with because they’ll be in closer  proximity.

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28 minutes ago, Spencer Hastings said:

I’m not one to be suspicious about every move the Duggars make but I’m pulling out the tin foil hat for Jana’s Instagram.  Every picture is so well polished and composed...what’s their angle here? 

I feel the same way. It's actually giving me the creeps. 

ETA: (Although when I think about Jana, I only really feel sure about two things -- she seems to be a hard worker with high-ish standards for stuff she does, and she doesn't seem to like to reveal herself to the public -- at all......And I guess the social-media persona that's emerging kinda goes with that. .... ....But now that makes me wonder if she's on social media with a gun to her head or something! .... That first cheese picture really does creep me out. What the hell is that phony smile?.... For some reason, it's giving me a kind of Twin Peaks vibe. lol)

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I never got the BFF vibe from these two. I don't recognize that house, maybe it's Jana's 

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26 minutes ago, Lunera said:

 

I never got the BFF vibe from these two. I don't recognize that house, maybe it's Jana's 

Maybe it's a house in an alternate universe. 

Seriously. 

ETA: Could it be another part of the same porch that Jingle and Jer are on in this pic? -- Jingle's got the same dress on. 

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Aren't they all at the 3G cult training? Maybe they're staying with "friends" or rented a house.

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Maybe Jana has gotten kind of depressed and lonely lately, with Laura gone. So Jessa and Jinger are rallying around her, helping her to “find her way.” And they convinced Boob to give Jana a little bit of freedom - instagram. Plus, like I said before, Jana might be able to make some $$ on social media; Boob likes that.

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Aaaaand ...the mustard sweater is back and "goes" with everything, including her new granny gown.

Boob is working overtime to get that TV wedding for  ratings Jana.  

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21 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

Laura's latest IG posts make it appear that she has left the Duggars. She identified her home as Indiana, but I am the first to speculate that she could be using diversion tactics to get the Jana/Laura stanners off her jock. She's from Indiana, but she hasn't lived there in years, first at Gothard HQ for several years, then with the Duggars for what, two or three years since Tabby Paine left to marry the anal rapist?

Laura probably is not pleased at the sexuality rumors, especially if she is a convert. Her parents weren't fundamentalist right? She is a bit more worldly and I expect she was reading all the snark forums. She probably went "Oh hell no, I didn't sign up for this".

 

3 hours ago, Spencer Hastings said:

I’m not one to be suspicious about every move the Duggars make but I’m pulling out the tin foil hat for Jana’s Instagram.  Every picture is so well polished and composed...what’s their angle here? 

Learning from the Dullards' and Seewalds' social media mishaps. If Jana isn't courting I think they may be paving the way for her to be a social media influencer. I suspect they're trying to market the Howlers as some sort of fundamentalist Christian boy band too. The Lost Girls had their CD and they're trying to make Josie into some sort of child star. The Duggars are diversifying for some reason outside of the TV money.

Probably a little too late. Jessa had the best shot and while she wouldn't have hit the jackpot like Kylie Jenner with the lip kits, I'm sure there would have been a niche that would have provided a comfortable living for the Seewalds once the TeeVee money runs dry.

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3 hours ago, Churchhoney said:

And I guess the social-media persona that's emerging kinda goes with that. .... ....But now that makes me wonder if she's on social media with a gun to her head or something! .... That first cheese picture really does creep me out. What the hell is that phony smile?.... For some reason, it's giving me a kind of Twin Peaks vibe. 

 I thought Stepford wives. 

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3 hours ago, Lunera said:

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I never got the BFF vibe from these two. I don't recognize that house, maybe it's Jana's 

This picture looks so staged and fake. The dresses, the laughter, the pose. 

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Poor Jana boob is clearly trying to sell her off, like cattle. Like the tv show isn’t enough with wow look at everything Jana can do, now social media as well. 

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JanaMDuggar officially replied to a comment asking if she and Lawson are a "thing". Jana says "No We're not a thing." So it's official. Free Jinger has a screen shot. 

I could have seen them together. Jana is supposedly the most devout (or is that Jill? or etc.?) and in that case she would probably chose a guy from IBLP. Good for Jana for denying it herself!

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46 minutes ago, Temperance said:

JanaMDuggar officially replied to a comment asking if she and Lawson are a "thing". Jana says "No We're not a thing." So it's official. Free Jinger has a screen shot. 

I could have seen them together. Jana is supposedly the most devout (or is that Jill? or etc.?) and in that case she would probably chose a guy from IBLP. Good for Jana for denying it herself!

Maybe it's just me, but Lawson seems too into himself to worship anyone but himself.

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10 hours ago, Churchhoney said:

Maybe it's a house in an alternate universe. 

Seriously. 

ETA: Could it be another part of the same porch that Jingle and Jer are on in this pic? -- Jingle's got the same dress on. 

 

You know what they say about people who feel the need to express how much they love their partner on social media. 

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On 1/13/2019 at 2:23 AM, Lunera said:

Why aren't her sisters there? I'd hate to spend the evening with Bitchelle.

Michelle picked out and bought that skirt.

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9 hours ago, PikaScrewChu said:

 

Probably a little too late. Jessa had the best shot and while she wouldn't have hit the jackpot like Kylie Jenner with the lip kits, I'm sure there would have been a niche that would have provided a comfortable living for the Seewalds once the TeeVee money runs dry.

I completely agree.....If they weren't too stupid, lazy, arrogant, fearful and short-sighted to find that niche and, you know, actually learn about it and WORK it. ..... Alas, this is not who they are, the Seewalds. Jessa hasn't actually got the character or personality to do this, I expect, and Bin's just too dumb, poor slob. 

8 hours ago, awaken said:

This picture looks so staged and fake. The dresses, the laughter, the pose. 

Maybe they could go into the business of producing stock photos. They've definitely got that phony "We're being so spontaneous and natural!" thing down pat. And they do filters. 

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On 1/19/2019 at 8:56 PM, 3 is enough said:

I also think that Jim Bob felt compelled to marry off the "damaged" daughters first.   Then Joe because one of the boys needed to prove that he could find a wife.  Of course Josiah had to be dealt with.  And then, surprise! J.D. went off and found someone.

As long as J.D. was single, Jana being unmarried and able to run things at home was a bonus, but with her twin married, the internet speculation about her friendship with Laura ramping up, suddenly it is time to find her a husband.  Plus, Hannie is going to be 14 this year so she is old enough to take over running the household.  And a Jana courtship/wedding will be ratings GOLD.

That's my theory.  YMMV.  Obviously I doubt anyone has bothered to ask Jana what SHE wants, because she is just a woman.  

I think jim bob planned the kids marriages out like some kind of a business plan to max ratings with births etc. once the 19 kids gravy train ended...

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23 hours ago, cmr2014 said:

For some reason, Jana's birthday extravaganza with mom made me flip my thoughts on her.

I don't think Jana is sober and mature and waiting for the right guy, or hoping to have a smaller family, or anything else. I think she's LESS mature than her sisters. I think that she's looked at her sisters' less than ideal marriages, and terrifying birth experiences and has a childish fear of it, rather than a reasoned, adult preference for something different. The "carrots" offered to the married siblings like instagram accounts and "date night with mom and dad!" just aren't appealing enough to her to risk leaving the safety of the 

i think it is more like if all you know if  dysfunctional families, parents neglect kids jana must raise, josh cheats on wife, jessa has to raise ben and her kids, derrick is a grifter without the sense to shut the fuck up ends up getting kicked off paying show his wife was a title character after cyber bullying a teenager, I think in her position laura would be my best option too.  her twin just got married so maybe she will learn that people can have relationships that are not unhappy and exploitative, if they work out well.  we expect what we know. she knows this shit show we watched unfold but she lives it 24/7

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Hmmm, the Jinger-found-Jana-a-man-in-TX theory is interesting:

1. Jana and Jinger are suddenly besties

2. When Jinger posted the photo, she hashtagged "wishyoulivedcloser"

3. Jana is on Instagram when historically, this only occurs when a Duggar is courting

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3 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

Michelle picked out and bought that skirt.

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I look at these people and i am amazed where do they get their sense of self esteem.  I am much to hard on myself think I am not pretty, thin, or stylish enough for instagram.   I would never in a billion years wear that shirt or live in a non ironic 80s fantasy hairstyle.   it gets bigger every year   wtf...

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17 hours ago, Lunera said:

The cheese post is kinda weird but I guess this is the type of stuff people post these days for attention. They are really working hard to show off Jana.

fuck her cheese smile is so scary,  we didn't plan this my ass. hire a real publicist.  what subculture is orchestrating this.

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