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Your probably right but when season two ended I really though we'd get to see more interaction with Louis and his heir in season three. They went to the trouble to show his son at the execution in the last episode of season two I thought there was a reason for it. 

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Well you got to see him in the finale, so there's that.

At least Philippe, Chevalier and Palatine got a happily ever after. It didn't feel quite finished, though, with Marchal languishing in jail. 

It just irritated the heck out of me whenever they cut to these dumb peasant characters nobody gives a hang about. The ended up being utterly pointless. Total waste of a season, overall.

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On ‎12‎/‎9‎/‎2018 at 10:50 AM, iMonrey said:

Well you got to see him in the finale, so there's that.

At least Philippe, Chevalier and Palatine got a happily ever after. It didn't feel quite finished, though, with Marchal languishing in jail. 

It just irritated the heck out of me whenever they cut to these dumb peasant characters nobody gives a hang about. The ended up being utterly pointless. Total waste of a season, overall.

Yes, they did. I liked that Philippe, Chevalier and Palatine got happy ever after. I liked Chevalier holding the guard at gun point to release Delphine although I still don't like or get their relationship and Philippe appearing and ordering the guards to let her go. Maybe because something actually happened? The rest? Nothing really happened. Everything was so pointless. The endless hours spent on the peasants for a completely pointless scene. All the time spent on Marchal breaking or considering breaking for nothing. Philippe's whatever was wrong with him, the Shokemaker, Louis getting worse and worse, it would be a shorter list that wasn't pointless this season. They wasted the entire last season and for nothing.

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The peasants really were pointless.  Phillipe didn’t even get to react to Guillome being killed.

I think this show could have gone another year because some things were wrapped up in a nice bow that really shouldn’t have been.

Fabien deserved better than a final shot sitting in prison.

Phillipe and Chevalier deserved better than an out of no where reunion.  Their last scene should have been them agreeing to try again.  Not Phillipe wanting to hear ILY from the guy he dumped and gave no thought to until he had nothing else going on. WTF changed his mind?

The Louis and Phillipe relationship deserved better than the two being on fine terms after murdering their father and Louis being at his most tyrannical self.  Phillipe always called out Louis so how did he not go all I told you so after killing Louis’ would be assassin? Their last scene in s2, ep. 10 was so much better.

Poor Colbert.  He was the only advisor worth a damn.  

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On ‎12‎/‎12‎/‎2018 at 1:12 PM, ch1 said:

The peasants really were pointless.  Phillipe didn’t even get to react to Guillome being killed.

I think this show could have gone another year because some things were wrapped up in a nice bow that really shouldn’t have been.

Fabien deserved better than a final shot sitting in prison.

Phillipe and Chevalier deserved better than an out of no where reunion.  Their last scene should have been them agreeing to try again.  Not Phillipe wanting to hear ILY from the guy he dumped and gave no thought to until he had nothing else going on. WTF changed his mind?

The Louis and Phillipe relationship deserved better than the two being on fine terms after murdering their father and Louis being at his most tyrannical self.  Phillipe always called out Louis so how did he not go all I told you so after killing Louis’ would be assassin? Their last scene in s2, ep. 10 was so much better.

Poor Colbert.  He was the only advisor worth a damn.  

They really were pointless and in the end nothing matters. Its also like they jumped to the "ending" without explaining how any of them got there. Suddenly Louis and Philippe are on fine terms as if none of the previous scenes happened. No apology from Louis, no Philippe calling him out, nothing. Suddenly they are close again. Same with Philippe and Chevalier as much as I liked the reunion it still made no sense from where they were up until that moment. We never get to see Chevalier call out Philippe or Philippe apologizing and explaining why he dropped him whether it was PTSD or what. Chevalier deserved an explanation. They don't even really explain why Chevalier, Philippe, and Lisolette are so happy to be back at Versailles after everything that happened? Chevalier is totally cool with being back living under Louis's roof after being locked up? When Lisolette tries to explain to Philippe why they should go back. It doesn't make any real sense given how crappy they were treated. It would make more sense if we saw any kind of pay off for them to return. We never get to see if Louis goes back to being normal or is still being horrible to everyone. For all we know he's using the assassination attempt to execute more people. No, we didn't see anything of it. But given his behavior up until that moment there's nothing to suggest he wouldn't either. They've given us no signs that Louis changed back. With Maintenon by is side happily agreeing with everything he's done. Its really unlikely that he's stopped.    

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I think the writers were caught with their pants down.  I think the news of no season 4 made them wrap things up late in filming.

I like Phillipe, Chevalier and Liselotte but their last scene made me cringe.  It was way too cheesy for me. 

I also don’t understand when Versailles became home for them. Especially since we have seen St. Cloud is home to Phillipe and I would think home for Liselotte would be wherever her forgotten son is.  Phillipe viewing Versailles as home just because he killed someone for his brother doesn’t work for me.

And speaking of things not mattering - the show ended with Delphine who?   The ending just proved to me that she was there to give Chevalier something to do while Phillipe was playing investigator. Waste of time.

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I'm just getting into this show.  Loving it, but at first it was a little confusing.  Not helped by my close captions even misnaming the people!  First time I've seen that happen.

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On ‎12‎/‎27‎/‎2018 at 5:01 PM, ch1 said:

I think the writers were caught with their pants down.  I think the news of no season 4 made them wrap things up late in filming.

I like Phillipe, Chevalier and Liselotte but their last scene made me cringe.  It was way too cheesy for me. 

I also don’t understand when Versailles became home for them. Especially since we have seen St. Cloud is home to Phillipe and I would think home for Liselotte would be wherever her forgotten son is.  Phillipe viewing Versailles as home just because he killed someone for his brother doesn’t work for me.

And speaking of things not mattering - the show ended with Delphine who?   The ending just proved to me that she was there to give Chevalier something to do while Phillipe was playing investigator. Waste of time.

I admit I like the scene but it makes no sense with everything that happened up until that moment. Chevalier just got over being imprisoned? He just got over Philippe dropping him with no reason? Why? It would have made more sense if we saw how they got to that moment. I don't understand how Versailles became their home either. Philippe and Liselotte never acted like they liked it there and even less after everything that's happened. Even when Liselotte's saying the words at St. Cloud that they have to back. There is no reason for it. Why would she want to go back to a place she didn't like? Where her son was taking away from her? And after Chevalier was arrested? While Louis's been even more of a tyrant then before. There's no reason for them to ever want to go back. But in the season before it made more sense. Philippe brought out the good in Louis. That having him there. Having both of them there was better for Louis (he's made remarks that he likes Liselotte's honesty and doesn't play politics) it would have made more sense if Louis sent someone or went asking for them to come back. Pleading that he needed them, apologized for his behavior and/or gave them some reason to return. But that doesn't happen. We get no reason why they went back or why later they are happy to be there. 

I agree Delphine ended up being something that gave Chevalier something to do. If they hadn't made him fall in love with her it would have made it better. There was no reason for that. They had zero chemistry and zero reason why Chevalier is suddenly so in love and with a woman. Friends would have been fine or one or both needing each other as reasons to stay at court. Chevalier lost his reason and then his position it would make more sense he finds a reason to stay. The only reason I like his part is he ends up being the only character all season who does something. Louis a tyrant for no reason, Philippe drops everyone and is changed for no reason, etc. Chevalier befriends Delphine, helps sneak Protestants out when things go bad for them, he risks his life to help Delphine's father and gets imprisoned, gets out and is mad at Philippe, then goes and forces Delphine's release. The love part makes no sense and once she's gone its like he forgets about her but he's still the only one who does something all season. His story arc ends up at least having a conclusion. None of the others did. It still makes no sense though after all he went through he's happy to still be at Versailles and in love with Philippe.

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The one thing Phillipe did (and to an extent Liselotte since that is actually the main reason she went to Phillipe) was save Chevalier’s ass.  Without Phillipe getting his release Chevy wouldn’t have succeeded at being a hero.  Even at the the end the reason Delphine escaped was because of Phillipe’s intervention.

Phillipe helping to release Delphine I guess was supposed to be enough for Chevalier going back to Phillipe no questions asked. As I said they deserved a better ending and a last season where they actually had more than 5 minutes together.

I know in the finale they had Louis say that he and Phillipe needed each other but honestly I didn’t see it.  Louis presented himself as needing no one and the only one he listened to was Maintenon (not surprising since she fed his ego). And in all 3 seasons Louis treated Phillipe like shit so i can’t help but think Phillipe would have been better off without him.

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9 hours ago, ch1 said:

The one thing Phillipe did (and to an extent Liselotte since that is actually the main reason she went to Phillipe) was save Chevalier’s ass.  Without Phillipe getting his release Chevy wouldn’t have succeeded at being a hero.  Even at the the end the reason Delphine escaped was because of Phillipe’s intervention.

Phillipe helping to release Delphine I guess was supposed to be enough for Chevalier going back to Phillipe no questions asked. As I said they deserved a better ending and a last season where they actually had more than 5 minutes together.

I know in the finale they had Louis say that he and Phillipe needed each other but honestly I didn’t see it.  Louis presented himself as needing no one and the only one he listened to was Maintenon (not surprising since she fed his ego). And in all 3 seasons Louis treated Phillipe like shit so i can’t help but think Phillipe would have been better off without him.

True he did do that and it is hard to believe that was enough for Chevalier. I agree they deserved better. Almost everyone deserved better. 

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Of course Fabien ended up in jail.  That's his happy place.

I felt for Colbert's death.  He worked until his death for a King he no longer respected.

King Louis was the villain of this piece.  I am glad the show reflected that.  He persecuted protestants during his reign - that's a historical fact.  In terns of limiting Rome's power in France.  That was probably a good idea.  

As for the peasants.  Its Versailles you need peasants.  When the King crowed about his legacy - all I could think was - the revolution is only a century away.  I think we needed to follow a peasant family throughout the entire show.  The show's approach was not coherent. 

I was annoyed that we were no longer had a carefree Phillipe and Chevalier.  But it really helped me to binge watch the last few episodes.  And I appreciated their characters' growth. 

As for the Daddy issue - Killing Daddy was way over the top.  But the idea of the King and Phillip actually being bastards is something to be considered.  An underlying theme this season was royal inbreeding.  Charles II of Spain, that everyone was trying to have their candidate married to, is the poster child of royal inbreeding.  He was unable to produce an heir which led to a war.  Now the King  and Phillipe's parents couldn't produce a child in nearly 20 years.  There had been 4 still-born births.  And then they had 2 healthy sons that lived until their old age??  Very unlikely.  

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On ‎10‎/‎31‎/‎2018 at 6:00 PM, andromeda331 said:

Both of these. Maintenon isn't interesting. She's a bore who's thinks she's better then others because she sprouts religious crap and the actress isn't playing her interesting either. Just boring. I don't see what Louis sees in her. She's boring, sprouts crap and is a hypocrite

I think he is using her in some way to salve a conscience he pushes away. And I agree, she's a bore.

Farewell, Fabian, he of the leather pants and "come hither" scowl.

(from the shallow pool)I want EVERY pair of earrings all the actresses' wore.  Divine.

For me I adore the show and it's sustaining me until GOT comes back.

And I LOVE Philippe's' tug of war between loving his brother and hating his king. Well done.

didn't Phli drop chevy after he conspired against the king?  He may not love the king, but he certainly loved his brother.

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Hello, I've a question ... I watched the first and second seasons of Versailles on Netflix. However, I  felt there were things I missed, so I decided to watch the first and second seasons again. Did anyone else notice scenes that seem to have been cut? For example, when I rewatched just a few weeks after originally viewing, Madame Montespan's infant child's death was completely missing from the show. This was the reason for the dismissal of the young doctor Claudine. Where did this scene go and why would Netflix remove a major part of the story line?  Thanks so much!

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