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On ‎01‎/‎26‎/‎2017 at 7:55 PM, WendyCR72 said:

For the Gen X people (like me!), it was announced that a deluxe soundtrack from the movie Singles is being released in May in a 2-CD set, with some previously-unreleased material and inclusion of a song by the (fictional) band Citizen Dick "fronted" by Matt Dillon's character (and with Eddie Vedder as backup...) If anyone is curious, here is all the info.

I guess I'm a Gen X-er (born in 1965), but musically, I'm a baby boomer.  Maybe it's because my musical taste was heavily influenced by my brother, who's 5 years older.  The only songs I even know on the Singles soundtrack are the ones originally by Led Zeppelin and Jimi Hendrix.

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On ‎05‎/‎06‎/‎2017 at 1:24 PM, Hrairoo said:

Miley Cyrus seems to be changing her sound and look.  In fact, now she dresses more like Minnie Mouse...

http://people.com/music/miley-cyrus-responds-backlash-hip-hop/

Okay, so, did Miley "wear hip-hop culture like a costume" the way some of these people say, or was she being genuine at the time?  Is she changing because no one cares about her anymore, or am I just being a cynical old lady?

I'll preface this by saying that I don't care about Miley Cyrus one way or the other, but can't she have genuinely appreciated it at the time, and yet still move one to something else?  Can't it simply be that her interests have changed, or that she's trying to grow as an artist?

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35 minutes ago, proserpina65 said:

I'll preface this by saying that I don't care about Miley Cyrus one way or the other, but can't she have genuinely appreciated it at the time, and yet still move one to something else?  Can't it simply be that her interests have changed, or that she's trying to grow as an artist?

YMMV but no. Appreciating a different sound and culture involves experimenting with a different sound, working with certain producers, artists, etc. It's not changing your entire wardrobe, way of speaking, point of reference and basically going extremely far left to what you were before. Basically it's the same issue some are having right now with Drake and his use of Jamaican/Dance Hall music in his songs. It's not that he's experimenting with a new sound that's the problem. It's that suddenly he now has some fake Jamaican accent, trying to talk with some faux patios, etc. It's insulting. 

Miley just didn't add some hip hop/rap elements to her sound. She embraced and perpetuated every negative stereotype about the genre with the over the top sexual behavior, talking in some fake African American Vernacular, trying to insist how much she'd always loved hip hop music so much even if a few years earlier she couldn't name one Jay Z song. Miley was a young white girl who clearly has no freaking clue who the hell she is and just becomes whatever latest fad she's taken up. And while I would have mostly just rolled my eyes at her antics, it's the fact that so many came for some black people who called out why her behavior was offensive that bothered me.

I read so many comments by her little white teenage fans going on about how black people are so racist and always making things "a black thing" while emulating Miley's same stupid behavior and insisting that this was Miley truly being "herself". Sure it was. And even still, I would not have cared about her latest image change because the minute she and Liam got back together, I knew it was coming. But the gall of her to then come and talk about the offensive aspects of hip hop and that's why she's no longer feeling it when it's like really girl? When you perpetuated EVERY SINGLE one of those stereotypes and happily made your money off it. 

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Thank you, truthaboutluv, for your answer.  I had just thrown my random thought out there, and you took the time to offer insight.  I appreciate that.

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For all of Miley's mishaps in the past, like I said above, I was genuinely moved by how much she supported Ariana this weekend in Manchester (and since the explosion first happened, really). It's clear the two of them are true friends. 

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8 hours ago, proserpina65 said:

I guess I'm a Gen X-er (born in 1965), but musically, I'm a baby boomer.  Maybe it's because my musical taste was heavily influenced by my brother, who's 5 years older.  The only songs I even know on the Singles soundtrack are the ones originally by Led Zeppelin and Jimi Hendrix.

Interesting.  I always considered myself a Gen Xer even though I was born in late 64. My sister is 7 years older than me.  While she certainly turned me onto classics like the Beatles and Led Zeppelin, and I like Yes, ELP and Rush, my love is 80s metal and  90s grunge. I loved Singles.

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I'm really surprised by this song by Niall Horan, called Slow Hands. It's not what I would expect, I like it.

 

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13 hours ago, UYI said:

For all of Miley's mishaps in the past, like I said above, I was genuinely moved by how much she supported Ariana this weekend in Manchester (and since the explosion first happened, really). It's clear the two of them are true friends. 

Just to be clear, I agreed with the sentiment, even if I could only watch snippets of the show because much as I sympathize with what Ariana's going through, her inability to enunciate her words is still incredibly grating and painful to listen to. But yes, she and Miley were adorable and my understanding is that they are actually friends. 

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7 hours ago, GaT said:

I'm really surprised by this song by Niall Horan, called Slow Hands. It's not what I would expect, I like it.

 

 

Sounds like Dirty Laundry from Don Henley.  He's quite an up and coming songwriter.

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I don't like Coldplay, & I don't like The Chainsmokers, so why do I love this song?

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I like that song, too, but I liked it when the Chainsmokers originally used that beat on their song "Roses." (Which is IMO a better song.) 

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I've never listened to Miley Cyrus before. Is it just me, or is she a bit flat in terms of vocals?

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36 minutes ago, Joe said:

I've never listened to Miley Cyrus before. Is it just me, or is she a bit flat in terms of vocals?

yeah she's not a brilliant vocalist (though by no means the weakest we've got out there atm)

at the Manchester Love concert I thought Little Mix blew everyone else out of the water, performance-wise. They're the least known of the acts there and their styling is kinda tragic but those girls can sing and seem to be good performers too. I never gave them much thought but they really impressed me.

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Just now, cpcathy said:

Funny, I thought Coldplay blew everyone out of the water with their performance.

Agreed. I did enjoy Little Mix but that's because they performed my favorite song of theirs. But yeah I thought Coldplay really stood out.

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16 hours ago, Silver Raven said:

I like Miley Cyrus's voice, but "Malibu" has too many words and no hook.

My favorite by her is still The Climb.  She had a bit more of a country twang and it suited her, imo.  Plus, I like the lyrics.

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1 hour ago, cpcathy said:

Funny, I thought Coldplay blew everyone out of the water with their performance.

that's true, they were great as always. But I'm used to them being good performers so maybe that's why I focused on the girls. They surprised me, cause I hadn't seen them perform before.

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I've come here to ask people who like rap whether this is good or not. I really like Sahyba Kaur's singing, & the song is very catchy, but Nick Cannon rapping sounds truly horrible to me. Is it just me, or is he that bad?



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On 6/5/2017 at 1:34 PM, truthaboutluv said:

YMMV but no. Appreciating a different sound and culture involves experimenting with a different sound, working with certain producers, artists, etc. It's not changing your entire wardrobe, way of speaking, point of reference and basically going extremely far left to what you were before. Basically it's the same issue some are having right now with Drake and his use of Jamaican/Dance Hall music in his songs. It's not that he's experimenting with a new sound that's the problem. It's that suddenly he now has some fake Jamaican accent, trying to talk with some faux patios, etc. It's insulting. 

Years ago, Rosie O'Donnell did a bit in her act about having seen Tina Turner win one of her many Grammy awards, and how when she came up to the stage to give her acceptance speech, her accent was very different than when she first started out; "Isn't Tina Turner from Tennessee? When did she decide she was from the British West Indies?"

As for the rest of it, I think Rihanna's way ahead of Miley Cyrus in terms of the use of sexuality in her music, and it's just as damaging. If only because I think Rihanna's more talented and a better singer, but I don't think we should gloss over Miley's having picked up the idea that that kind of stuff works when it comes to selling music. I don't dispute that she's an annoying little twit, and that like Bieber she underwent a radical image change in the hopes it would disguise her shortcomings as an artist, but is it any less insulting to see Rihanna do it than it is for anyone else?

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14 minutes ago, Cobalt Stargazer said:

Years ago, Rosie O'Donnell did a bit in her act about having seen Tina Turner win one of her many Grammy awards, and how when she came up to the stage to give her acceptance speech, her accent was very different than when she first started out; "Isn't Tina Turner from Tennessee? When did she decide she was from the British West Indies?"

As for the rest of it, I think Rihanna's way ahead of Miley Cyrus in terms of the use of sexuality in her music, and it's just as damaging. If only because I think Rihanna's more talented and a better singer, but I don't think we should gloss over Miley's having picked up the idea that that kind of stuff works when it comes to selling music. I don't dispute that she's an annoying little twit, and that like Bieber she underwent a radical image change in the hopes it would disguise her shortcomings as an artist, but is it any less insulting to see Rihanna do it than it is for anyone else?

I am not sure what this comment has to do with my comment you quoted. The issue was not about Miley's being over the top sexual. It's that when she decided she was going more urban and hip hop with her sound, she suddenly took on this very over the top vulgar persona, as if that's all the genre is. Whatever flaws Rihanna has, I have seen no indication that she isn't true to who she is.

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2 hours ago, Cobalt Stargazer said:

Years ago, Rosie O'Donnell did a bit in her act about having seen Tina Turner win one of her many Grammy awards, and how when she came up to the stage to give her acceptance speech, her accent was very different than when she first started out; "Isn't Tina Turner from Tennessee? When did she decide she was from the British West Indies?"

I'd hardly call Turner's evolving accent an affectation (via comparison to the Bieber example), rather than simply a natural result of her lifestyle -- she divided her time between the U.S. and Europe back then, living in several different cities (more often in Europe than here; she was HUGE there, and the man who would become her husband was German, often working in London), eventually moving full-time to Switzerland (she's not even a U.S. citizen anymore).

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So Jay Z's latest album 4:44 has gone platinum in three whole days. The problem? It's fake news. Basically, Sprint bought the exclusive rights to the album then gave their customers free downloads. One album sale is the equivalent of 1,500 streams, apparently, so that mixed in with it being free on Tidal, and people just buying it, gave him a Platinum record.

At the risk of sounding like a hater, isn't this, uh, cheating? There are other artists who don't have his pockets and his connections to do something like that, so they have to actually come out with a project that's both good, gets attention, and they have to work to keep the attention on the record. But with Jay Z, there was no grind beyond putting out the record. And I've heard it's a very good record, but without having heard any of it, my guess is this is Lemonade all over again:

1. Jay Z is a private person, so for him to start telling his business is compelling in a novel kind of way.

2. Jay Z is well-respected in the hip-hop world, so people who are not really into today's biggest acts (Migos, Rae Sremmurd, Lil Yachty, Future, etc) finally feel like they have some "adult hip-hop" to listen to.

3. OMG IT WENT PLATINUM OVER THE LONG WEEKEND

I...think Beyonce and Jay Z are due for a fall off.

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This is not new for Jay Z and most people are aware of it. He did the exact same thing with his last studio album Magna Carta Holy Grail and there was a whole debate and discussion about it then. Consequently, while the RIAA recognized and certified it platinum, Billboard did not because of the Samsung deal. 

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I just think it's bogus for so many artists to struggle to go Gold because of streaming while Jay Z just cuts to the front of the line and sells his album to a cell phone provider. The RIAA probably only changed the rules because it's good for appearances to have at least one album go Platinum in a year. Part of what keeps sales low is because people talk about how few sales there are. But Jay Z just wants his legacy to be that all his albums went Platinum. It's cheap and makes me think this entire thing is just one big ruse. I think I mentioned an article on Pitchfork a few years ago that talked about how we'll probably look back in a few years and see "Drunk In Love" as a bit of a ruse. Like, they were just putting on but really they were headed for divorce. After Lemonade and 4:44, that seems kinda true. I mean, they're still together obviously, but...you know. Barely.

But enough about Jay Z.

I came here to post about Kesha. This bitch...I don't even know really how to...say this, but Kesha might win 2017. I mean, I'm a little surprised to hear myself say that, but yes, the "Tik Tok" chick released a song that is emotionally arresting, mature, well-crafted, and she sings her ass off. It's called "Praying" and I was listening along, like, okay it sounds alright, then she unleashes a high note that would make Mariah Carey proud. I didn't know Kesha had a whistle register or even a real singing voice, since she was introduced to us as the trashy rapping white girl. But she goes from looking like she passed out behind a dumpster to looking like a new millennium hippie granola chick, which works, and she channels a lot of her struggles with Dr. Luke into this song.

(BTW, my 2c on that situation is that Kesha is probably not entirely telling the truth and I think she probably just wanted out of her deal more than wanting to accuse Dr. Luke of sexual misconduct, BUT I don't feel sorry for him because from what many people have said, he's kind of a dick, and I think he probably did sign her to a shitty deal when she was young and got rich off her and then when she wizened up and wanted to renegotiate, him and Sony probably turned their asses up to her. So even though I'm skeptical of the facts, I'm happy for Kesha being free from all that. )

The song is the first Top 40 song this year has provoked any real sense of...anything in me. Pop music has been in a weird nothing place this year, which I think has a lot to do with politics sucking all the air out of the room. Hopefully this song can bring it to a new place. It kind of reminds of "Skyscraper" by Demi Lovato, in that, there's a barely contained quality to the vocal that speaks to something more than technique. It's emotional without being showy. So, kudos to Kesha. It's crazy that 2017 has seen both Miley and Kesha become mature, but alas, that's where we are.

Kesha - Praying

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http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/6266683/one-direction-steal-my-girl-new-found-glory-journey

I've always thought "Steal My Girl" from One Direction sounded like Journey's "Faithfully" but I assumed it was just a sample. It's not the first time they've borrowed a bit of music like with "That's What Makes You Beautiful" having a bit from Grease. But tonight it came up on shuffle and I decided to do some digging. http://www.mtv.com/news/1947531/one-direction-steal-my-girl-journey/

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The song is now #1 on the iTunes songs charts and, not surprisingly, it was instantly loved by fans. But many critics couldn't help but notice the similarities between the piano opening of 1D's song and the classic Journey ballad "Faithfully," something Julian wasn't even aware of until he read the song reviews.

"When we sat down and played the piano lick, nobody had any references in their head about what they wanted to write or anything and then I saw all the things about that [Journey song]," he said. "At the end of the day, the lyric and the melody have nothing to do with any other song that I have ever heard. Sometimes there's only so many things you can do with a piano at that tempo.

"There is an age-old saying that great minds think alike so, naturally, sometimes people are going to write on the same inspirational wave lengths and come up with things that are similar and it wasn't anyone's intention to do that at all...

He added, "But at least we are being compared to a classic song and not a sh---y song, so that's a compliment."

That is some hot garbage. It's not a sample? You just stole it without giving them credit and/or financial compensation? And deny that you stole it when you so clearly stole it? BOO.

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Calvin Harris has a new song out that features Pharrell, Katy Perry, & Big Sean, it's called "Feels".  It's just your basic pop song, but this is the chorus Katy Perry sings:

Don't be afraid to catch feels
Ride drop top and chase thrills (Hey)
I know you ain't afraid to pop pills (Hey)
Baby, I know you ain't scared to catch feels
Feels with me

"I know you ain't afraid to pop pills"????? What???? 

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Yeah, that song is kinda weird. To his credit, though, Calvin Harris' latest album is pretty good. I heard it described as the soundtrack to the coolest pool party you weren't invited to, which sounds about right. I wish he'd work with more up-and-coming artists, though. I'm a little tired of the usual features, especially Migos.

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Kesha had a protracted fight with her record label over her producer, whom she accused of sexually and emotionally abusing her.  The court ruled in favor of the court, but the label at least replaced the producer.  And now her new songs are out.  "Praying" is pretty much about her reaction to the producer.

 

 

And "Woman" is an anthem to being a woman. NSFW!
 

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Mary Chapin Carpenter. Patty Loveless. Pam Tillis. Trisha Yearwood. Suzy Bogguss. Emmylou Harris. Kathy Mattea. THIS is what country music USED to look like.

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Ah, I remember my mom playing that song, as well as a couple of Tillis', a lot when I was a kid. I pretty much only know those few songs, but I do like them. 

Also, I found a live version of a Crowded House song that Mary Chapin Carpenter covered once, so she gets extra cool points from me for that :D. 

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On 7/28/2017 at 10:35 AM, UYI said:

Mary Chapin Carpenter. Patty Loveless. Pam Tillis. Trisha Yearwood. Suzy Bogguss. Emmylou Harris. Kathy Mattea. THIS is what country music USED to look like.

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8 hours ago, UYI said:

Hard to believe it has been so long. He died only about a month before my 5th birthday, so I honestly don't remember Elvis' death. (Although I grew up around his music - especially his Christmas album - as my parents liked his music.) But I do remember when John Lennon was killed a little over 3 years later.

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9 hours ago, MyAimIsTrue said:

I was never an Elvis fan but I remember that day like it was yesterday even though I was only 12 years old.

I was eight, on a family vacation in Virginia. We were coming back from the motel pool when the news came on the radio, and my mom burst into tears.

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I wasn't born when Elvis died and I am not a huge fan my any means but it was super interesting to watch the coverage yesterday and see just how big the impact he had on culture was and continues to be. In Australia we have an Elvis festival every summer in this small rural town called Parkes in New South Wales and you can get a special intercity rail service to this event that is Elvis-themed from Sydney about seven hours away.

I think the first really big musician's death I can remember in detail was George Harrison's. Kurt Cobain died when I was 12 and I vaguely remember it but at the time my musical tastes veered distinctly toward pop and he didn't have a big cultural impact on me until a few years later. 

When George died it was about midnight, maybe later and I was browsing a soap opera forum (can't remember which one) and the news popped up in the forum. Then my mum came home from work (she is a residential care worker) and I told her and it was sort of odd because we were both giant fans of his music but we both felt a sense of relief more than anything else. 

My mum got super pissed off the next day when the Daily Telegraph made their coverage of George's death all about Paul McCartney.

Edited by Jac · Reason: Damn autocorrect

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24 minutes ago, DkNNy79 said:

She looks just like her father

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Not to me she doesn't, & I'm not talking about skin color.  Maybe I can see similar eyes, but I see different face shapes, different eyebrows, different noses, & different smiles. They don't look anything alike to me.

And as a side note, I like her hair so much better in this picture than the long turquoise stuff.

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Me too. Funny thing is, I just came here to post, in part, about Halsey. I just saw her (mostly awful) performance with the Chainsmokers at the VMAs last year. The interesting thing to me about Halsey is that she has this uncanny ability to look totally different depending on her hair and makeup. Maybe it's because I'm not totally *into* her, but it seems like every time she changes her look, she looks like a different chick. Even if you compare the above photo with the one on her Wikipedia page, she doesn't look the same. The same goes for both of her looks in the Closer video.

While I think that anonymity makes her intriguing, Halsey miiiight need to pick a style and stick with it for a minute. I like the restless need to reinvent oneself, but that chameleon quality mixed with the fact that on wax she sounds like a slightly-less-good Ellie Goulding, makes her a shade anonymous. Not to mention "Now or Never" which is blatant "Needed Me" rip-off that her and her label should whoop Starrah's ass for, but I digress.

Speaking of Rihanna, I had an epiphany about her recently: she really was not slaying with that red hair. I mean, she only kept it for like nine months between albums, but I've seen some photos of her from the Loud-era and, nah. She looked like a sexy ass Ronald McDonald, and that's not a good look.

I've been hoping that one day this country would wake up to the greatness of P!nk. I can't say I'm too crazy about "What About Us", her latest single, though. I would've preferred something a little tougher than an It Gets Better ballad set to an understated disco beat. But that being said, I'm glad she's back. I missed her. I hope the single does well, because I like P!nk. And I'm glad she's gonna get the VMA Vanguard Award. Bold prediction: I think Christina Aguilera's gonna present the award to her. You know they had history which: okay. Let me say this. Ron Fair, Christina Aguilera's A&R guy, wanted her to sing the high part of "Lady Marmalade". I get the feeling he was probably kind of an asshole about it, but the man knew what the fuck he was doing because, you know, the song went #1, won two VMAs, and a Grammy. I love P!nk, but you know damn well Christina needed to sing that part. Now, the other part of their feud, where Christina started working with Linda Perry after P!nk brought her out of obscurity and achieved success and in some ways made the blueprint for pop-rock in the new millennium, I'm torn. On one hand, I think Pink was being kinda petty. On the other, I said during Stripped that Christina was trying to do some weird hybrid of Britney and Pink, you know, which out-singing both of them. It kinda worked, maybe, sorta? Stripped hasn't aged well, I didn't really like or pay attention to many of her performances during that era, and I was happy to see her looking fresh-faced and sounded powerful on Back to Basics, but maybe it worked in Christina's narrative? Eh. I digress. Yay P!nk's back.

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2 minutes ago, 27bored said:

Me too. Funny thing is, I just came here to post, in part, about Halsey. I just saw her (mostly awful) performance with the Chainsmokers at the VMAs last year. The interesting thing to me about Halsey is that she has this uncanny ability to look totally different depending on her hair and makeup. Maybe it's because I'm not totally *into* her, but it seems like every time she changes her look, she looks like a different chick. Even if you compare the above photo with the one on her Wikipedia page, she doesn't look the same. The same goes for both of her looks in the Closer video.

I didn't even realize she was in the Closer video. I hate that song.

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14 minutes ago, GaT said:

I didn't even realize she was in the Closer video. I hate that song.

She isn't in the video.  The couple in the video are actors.

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20 hours ago, Silver Raven said:

She isn't in the video.  The couple in the video are actors.

I think that actually IS Halsey and Andrew from the Chainsmokers in the Closer video. 

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