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Based on the comments I read on "health coach" Jessica's Instagram, they're shilling Optavia, a scammy MLM version of NutriSystem. If anyone wants a fun read here are some Consumer Affairs complaints about the program:

Shocking-not-shocking is the theme of poor customer service and difficulty of cancelling once you've signed your life away to the company:

https://www.consumeraffairs.com/nutrition/medifast.html

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Joy probably used to spend more than $14 a day at Chik-Fil-A and thinks it's a bargain.

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Why would she put out her email address publicly and tell people to send her their numbers for her to call them?  What if we all actually did?  And why would anyone think Joy is suddenly an expert on health and weight loss?  

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And she doesn’t even show her body for the ad. Oh poor simple Joy.

I’m sure she’s got some fundy flunkies going through the emails. 

I seem to still like her for some reason. Maybe it’s because she double dipped in front of Austin. I don’t know. Or just that she seems sort of feisty and dim. And she doesn’t seem to bat an eye about doing manual labor in sandals. 

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On 12/30/2018 at 4:27 PM, Nysha said:

Granted we haven't seen much of Joe's little one, but Jill seems to be the only Duggar sibling whose kids are constantly fearful and/or apprehensive. I think she's the only one who bought into the Pearl's infant abuse discipline regime.

Maybe, but I think I remember a time in the past year when Joy and Austin were singing the praises of the Pearl approach. I wouldn't bet on Jill being the only one, really. Especially when the kids get a little older. They're all very steeped in that general philosophy. 

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10 hours ago, BitterApple said:

Based on the comments I read on "health coach" Jessica's Instagram, they're shilling Optavia, a scammy MLM version of NutriSystem. If anyone wants a fun read here are some Consumer Affairs complaints about the program:

Shocking-not-shocking is the theme of poor customer service and difficulty of cancelling once you've signed your life away to the company:

https://www.consumeraffairs.com/nutrition/medifast.html

Email this to Joy.

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12 hours ago, BitterApple said:

Based on the comments I read on "health coach" Jessica's Instagram, they're shilling Optavia, a scammy MLM version of NutriSystem. If anyone wants a fun read here are some Consumer Affairs complaints about the program:

Shocking-not-shocking is the theme of poor customer service and difficulty of cancelling once you've signed your life away to the company:

https://www.consumeraffairs.com/nutrition/medifast.html

Interesting. Way back in history, Medifast was a diet system created by a doctor and sold to patients through doctors' offices. I actually used it back in the early 00's and lost weight. I had a great local program representative who was an RN, who'd had a lot of experience with Medifast during the time when it was really medically supervised.

But it looks it has now evolved to a direct-to-consumer (through "coaches") thing. About six years ago I tried it again - still via the same local RN "coach" (I'm not sure that's what they were called back then), but had an adverse reaction to the soy-heavy ingredients. My RN lady was great and said oh yes I needed to stop. 

But yes, it seems as if these days anybody can be a "coach" for this Optavia stuff. If it's the same food as before, it's really soy-heavy and a lot of people may not be able to tolerate it. I'm not flat-out allergic to soy but my bod just couldn't take that much of it day in and day out. 

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10 hours ago, Jeeves said:

But yes, it seems as if these days anybody can be a "coach" for this Optavia stuff. If it's the same food as before, it's really soy-heavy and a lot of people may not be able to tolerate it. I'm not flat-out allergic to soy but my bod just couldn't take that much of it day in and day out. 

The 'Jessica" that Joy refers to as an Optavia health coach is none other than Joy's sister-in-law's mother-in-law, Jessica Ballinger.  Jessica is the mother-in-law of Austin's sister Meagan Forsyth Ballinger.

I think that Joy should have disclosed this relationship, but in true Duggar fashion she chose not to be entirely honest.  I'm ashamed of Joy.  Behavior like this makes the baby Jesus cry.

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I'm pretty sure Joy IDed Jessica as a Ballinger in her initial post shilling this crap. There's no other way I would have known to go poking around on her IG at the time.

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The Ballingers are having some interesting tax problems right now. They have a lien on their property for not paying state taxes, which they SWEAR they knew nothing about until the lien was publicized, despite everybody saying you get several notifications before you get a lien. Yeah, local media is having fun with that, and Ballinger is being indignant about it. It's very Duggar-esque. 

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But he's a good buddy of Boob's. I knew the Ballinger name long before Joy married into the Forsyths. Nice company the Duggars keep but not in the least surprising.

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37 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

But he's a good buddy of Boob's. I knew the Ballinger name long before Joy married into the Forsyths. Nice company the Duggars keep but not in the least surprising.

Yeah the Boob/Ballinger connection isn't surprising. Weirdly enough, I've been aware of Ballinger for awhile since he's one of the local strivers but despite following the Duggar circus for years, had no idea about his Duggar connection until a few months ago. In fact, I think I might have learned about it from one of your posts! 

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So how much weight did she lose prior to starting this program?  It sounds like she had done most of the work herself.

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This is Joy’s typical response to questions:

 

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@michellerenedoveYES!! Totally! I didn’t the same thing!! You can Direct Message my health coach, @jessilynnballinger and let her know you need more information!

 

So, I went to her “coach’s” Instagram. There  are 2 videos, posted on December 24th:

 

 

 

 

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On 1/14/2019 at 8:05 PM, Spencer Hastings said:

 

Joy has become that friend from high school (the dining room table in this case) who keeps trying to get you to join her pyramid scheme. Whatever she is trying to sell costs *only* $14/day. 

40lbs in 9 weeks? Unless you're obese I don't see how that's possible if you're a normal weight

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1 minute ago, Darknight said:

40lbs in 9 weeks? Unless you're obese I don't see how that's possible if you're a normal weight

He likely was obese. (A lot of people are including me) She was likely post partum which helped (her body was getting back to its “normal weight”). Not knocking them, losing weight is HARD no matter what, but a post partum woman dropping her pregnancy weight isn’t the same as someone dropping 40lbs they’ve carried for 10yrs. 

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12 minutes ago, Scarlett45 said:

He likely was obese. (A lot of people are including me) She was likely post partum which helped (her body was getting back to its “normal weight”). Not knocking them, losing weight is HARD no matter what, but a post partum woman dropping her pregnancy weight isn’t the same as someone dropping 40lbs they’ve carried for 10yrs. 

Is she marking towards after birth or just regular people?

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18 minutes ago, Darknight said:

Is she marking towards after birth or just regular people?

I thought she was marketing it as a post partum weight loss program (although others can use it)- I could be wrong don’t quote me!

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He is obese, and his wife has had 8? kids, including one who's still fairly small. 

 

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FWIW, his wife seems like a nice lady (at least in public). She's better liked than him. (Not that that's hard. . . .)

Edited to add: the youngest kid was born late Dec 2017. 

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From behind that could almost pass for a throw back pic of Jill, Jana and Joy.

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4 hours ago, floridamom said:

The World's Worst Dressed young ladies...Why are they staring at a wall???

To show off their godly, never-trimmed hair?

21 minutes ago, Barb23 said:

I am in no way a fashion person but poor Jennifer.   A pink lace skirt & some type of flip flops being worn in the winter with an oversized blazer (look how long the sleeves are) that doesn't go with the skirt & shoes at all. Plus the blazer looks like it should be worn by someone older, not an 11 year old. 

I wish I could take the younger girls on an age appropriate shopping spree.

Plus they all must be freezing.  Isn't that frost on the ground, or salt spread for ice?

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31 minutes ago, Barb23 said:

I am in no way a fashion person but poor Jennifer.   A pink lace skirt & some type of flip flops being worn in the winter with an oversized blazer (look how long the sleeves are) that doesn't go with the skirt & shoes at all. Plus the blazer looks like it should be worn by someone older, not an 11 year old. 

I wish I could take the younger girls on an age appropriate shopping spree.

Don't forget the leggings sticking out from under the lace skirt. yeesh.  Although I guess at least it's warmer that way. 

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Hannie looks like she's going to a country western type / clogging / BBQ place for some wholesome family fun, and wants to be the most feminine tween there in the skirt. 

Joy looks like she's on her way to work as the frumpiest librarian ever, on a rainy day when she has her period and is running late  

Jennifer looks like she is going to a spring wedding, but it just got colder out than they thought, so they found Mom's blazer in the back seat and threw it on her, just to wear into the church. 

I swear, I think the way they dress sometimes can be attractive (not here, but sometimes), but what bothers me is they have absolutely zero concept of dressing for an occasion! These three girls are at completely different levels of dressy!

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Apparently Joy responded to a SM poster worried about using the product she's shilling because the poster struggled in the past with anorexia by saying "Awesome ...".

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8 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

OMG Joy, do you even know what anorexia is?

I'm shocked she can safely swallow the shakes without choking.

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1 hour ago, Sew Sumi said:

OMG Joy, do you even know what anorexia is?

Probably not, but I'm doubtful about the person who asked her. I don't know many eating-disordered people (including me) who would admit it. 

 

P.S. I'm recovered. 

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Maybe it's easier for that person to talk about when posting anonymously on IG?  

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4 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

Maybe it's easier for that person to talk about when posting anonymously on IG?  

Or it's a fraud. Who knows. Could very well be a Duggar snarker. 

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11 minutes ago, Heathen said:

Or it's a fraud. Who knows. Could very well be a Duggar snarker. 

Wow, I snark with the best of them, but I would never dream of impersonating someone with an ED. That's just sick.

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Maybe she was going for awful and it autocorrected on her and she's so clueless that she didn't catch it?

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1 hour ago, doodlebug said:

Even if the original poster is a troll, there are undoubtedly people with eating disorders, particularly young people, who are reading Joy's IG.  When she apparently applauded someone's history of anorexia and proceeded to recommend a liquid meal replacement she is shilling; it simply demonstrated her ignorance and perhaps encouraged some kid to pursue disordered eating.  No bueno.

That's a given, and also beside the point. 

 

1 hour ago, Sew Sumi said:

Wow, I snark with the best of them, but I would never dream of impersonating someone with an ED. That's just sick.

There are people who have role-play Duggar Instagram accounts. Apparently, nothing is off the table when it comes to the Duggars' followers, either leghumpers or snarkers. 

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15 hours ago, Barb23 said:

I am in no way a fashion person but poor Jennifer.   A pink lace skirt & some type of flip flops being worn in the winter with an oversized blazer (look how long the sleeves are) that doesn't go with the skirt & shoes at all. Plus the blazer looks like it should be worn by someone older, not an 11 year old. 

I wish I could take the younger girls on an age appropriate shopping spree.

Can’t JB splurge an extra 10 bucks and get some longer coats for the girls? I almost always wear skirts or dresses year round. Not for any made up religiousy reason, but because I look horrible in pants. I have a few knee length and ankle length coats that I got from thrift stores and discount department stores over the years. I get that it may not be that cold where they live, but they have to get cold in those thin little skirts. My butt and legs would be freezing.

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26 minutes ago, Temperance said:

But Michelle had an eating disorder and supposedly taught her girls all about them. 

I never bought the eating disorder story. 

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