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MJ plans a "rebirth" ceremony at the Hollywood Forever Cemetery; newlyweds Reza and Adam call upon Asa to make their marriage official; GG reaches a truce with her mother about her chemotherapy; Tommy makes a gesture that will change MJ's life.

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guess I am watching it now. I always feel bad for MJ when I see her mom and how her mom has not one nice word or comment of look or action for her daughter. 

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God, it is now official. I hate Vida every bit as much as Teresa and Joe Guidice.  There is a special place in hell for the three of them.  Honestly, when Vida passes away I think MJ will be feeling equal amounts of sadness AND RELIEF.  I had a person in my family (very close to me) who was just as vile as Vida.  When she passed away I felt more relief than sadness.  I felt very light as if 5 million tons of absolute shit was lifted off my shoulders and lowered into that coffin with my relative.

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Vida is so terrified that her daughter might get it right in life, find love and happiness, something she, herself, failed at miserably, so she wants MJ to be as big a failure as she is. She is also terrified to her core that if MJ really finds love and happiness, she will turn her back on her for good because that is what Vida would do.

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I had a relative like Vida once. She was a practicing witch. I'm not saying Vida is possessed by a force summoned by the poweres of the Necronomicon or ghoul but she acts like someone full of malice. 

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13 minutes ago, beesknees said:

God, it is now official. I hate Vida every bit as much as Teresa and Joe Guidice.  There is a special place in hell for the three of them.  Honestly, when Vida passes away I think MJ will be feeling equal amounts of sadness AND RELIEF.  I had a person in my family (very close to me) who was just as vile as Vida.  When she passed away I felt more relief than sadness.  I felt very light as if 5 million tons of absolute shit was lifted off my shoulders and lowered into that coffin with my relative.

My grandmother was very similar to Vida, except throw in a dash of Christianity and Jesus. Everyone was terrible, everyone was going to hell.. Everything in her life was someone else's fault. When she died both me and my mom were sooooooo relieved. And sadly there were only 4 of us at her funeral...me, my mom and stepdad, and my uncle. No one else cared. That's what happens when you alienate literally everyone who was in your life. I honestly didn't even want to go the funeral either, but I did it for my mom.

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1 minute ago, fliptopbox said:

My grandmother was very similar to Vida, except throw in a dash of Christianity and Jesus. Everyone was terrible, everyone was going to hell.. Everything in her life was someone else's fault. When she died both me and my mom were sooooooo relieved. And sadly there were only 4 of us at her funeral...me, my mom and stepdad, and my uncle. No one else cared. That's what happens when you alienate literally everyone who was in your life. I honestly didn't even want to go the funeral either, but I did it for my mom.

That's what happened to my paternal step-grandfather.  My grandmother divorced him when she was 80.  Turns out he stole 35k from her to sent to relatives in the old country, so she was awarded 75% of their house and all the belongings in it.  No one cared for him once she divorced him and we only found out he died when his name was mentioned on the local radio station that was in their language.  We would have missed knowing about it if my maternal grandfather hadn't been listening.

 It was scary how Reza was chasing GG, like he was prepared to beat her up.  No one deserves to be touched that way no matter what they've said to another person.

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1 hour ago, voiceover said:

You know, I used to cut Vida some slack, because she sounds like all my aunties (accent-wise only).

But after the "When you're perfect I'll be proud of you",  I was with Mike.  

"Dear Vida,

And I say this with all respect:

Go fuck yourself."

Amen!  Peace be to Allah!

How in the world would Reza think the laws aren't inclusive of surprise weddings?  No one has a surprise wedding.  I yelled it at the tv!

Speaking of yelling at the tv:  Dear Mike, as chairperson of the jury we have found you not guilty and wish you had gone all in on that horrible person.

MJ - she needs to insulate herself from her toxic mother or she will become her.  We already see some tendencies.  See your mom once a month for 30 minutes and set the timer.  Every time your mother says something bad, laugh it off.  It will piss her off.  Keep acting like she is the insane lunatic she is.  This will driver her nuts.  Delete all texts without reading them.  On a phone call, listen for a couple of seconds and if she is mean say something like, "OMG the dog fell off the balcony." or some other crazy emergency. 

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I actually think once MJ brings a child into this world she truly will set boundaries with her mother or x her out of her life 

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Oy, these people. This show. Remember when it was kind of fun and funny? I mean, it's been a while, but that's pretty much gone.

However, I *would* be all in on a "Real Housewives: Tommy Edition" rerun each week. (Think "social edition" with THs featuring Tommy edited in.) His comments on Ramona and Jac would be gold, Jerry! Gold!

all things considered, I was surprised to see a Fiji Water ad during the show...

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Vida doesn't deserve respect.  I am not of the reality TV star school of "At first I don't respect you!  You have to earn my respect blahblahblah."  But you can prove yourself undeserving of respect, and Vida has done that, mainly because she doesn't respect anyone else.  She's vile.

Tommy, Reza, Gigi, etc. are grown up people.  If they wanted to see the peace kept, they should have intervened on Mike's behalf and not sat there giggling and shuffling their feet while Vida poked at their "friend".  All they would have had to do is change the topic and start talking among themselves-they didn't even have to confront her.  Would they have just sat there if she'd started making derogatory comments about Reza being gay or MJ dating a black man?  Is there ever a time when your elder needs to get checked?

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Has it ever been mentioned what Tommy does (or doesn't do) for a living?  I can't recall, but maybe I just wasn't paying attention.  None of these people really seem to work, so I guess he fits right in.  I wonder if the jewelry store comped all or part of the price of the ring as a trade-off for free ad time.

And jeez, MJ, go up a size or three.

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15 minutes ago, ninjago said:

Vida doesn't deserve respect.  I am not of the reality TV star school of "At first I don't respect you!  You have to earn my respect blahblahblah."  But you can prove yourself undeserving of respect, and Vida has done that, mainly because she doesn't respect anyone else.  She's vile.

Tommy, Reza, Gigi, etc. are grown up people.  If they wanted to see the peace kept, they should have intervened on Mike's behalf and not sat there giggling and shuffling their feet while Vida poked at their "friend".  All they would have had to do is change the topic and start talking among themselves-they didn't even have to confront her.  Would they have just sat there if she'd started making derogatory comments about Reza being gay or MJ dating a black man?  Is there ever a time when your elder needs to get checked?

Mike did try and after Vida asked about Adam (Reza answered her) she went right back to asking Mike about Jessica. I don't think anyone could stop her because she saw his discomfort and she revels in making others as miserable as she is.

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MJ sounded drunk and/or high at that ridiculous "ceremony." I can't take Tommy shouting through all his dialogue.

Mike needs to go somewhere and figure his life out. He's perpetually angry and sulking, and I'm not talking about with Vida. Even when he was on WWHL with one of the RHoP  ladies, he looked like an angry drunk and one of the viewers even called him on it. 

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Oh, dear.  MJ's dress at her "renewal" ceremony.  I kept hoping she'd strip it off and throw it into the casket along with her costume jewelry.  

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I just can't with MJ. Good luck, Tommy. I hope she really is going to change cause that woman is a whole big bag of dysfunction. Along with his soon to be mother-in law. 

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9 hours ago, jumper sage said:

MJ - she needs to insulate herself from her toxic mother or she will become her.  We already see some tendencies.  See your mom once a month for 30 minutes and set the timer.  Every time your mother says something bad, laugh it off.  It will piss her off. Keep acting like she is the insane lunatic she is.  This will driver her nuts.  Delete all texts without reading them.  On a phone call, listen for a couple of seconds and if she is mean say something like, "OMG the dog fell off the balcony." or some other crazy emergency. 

This would actually be a fabulous plan.  But for it to be effective Vida would need self awareness.   It won't drive her nuts at all, she'd look at MJ's wacky reactions as confirmation that she's been right this whole time.   Vida and my mother are personality twins.  It was hard to watch that cultural respect your elders, even if you know for a fact they're assholes, thing.  That isn't respect, it's enabling.   I still giggled at how she thought she was *burning* Mike. 

9 hours ago, Petunia13 said:

I actually think once MJ brings a child into this world she truly will set boundaries with her mother or x her out of her life 

Also too logical.  She's not the type to respect boundaries.   MJ won't be able to have any type of relationship with her mom excluding the toxicity.  So ultimately she'll have to decide whether she wants to pick her self esteem up off the floor after every interaction they have or do without her mother altogether.  But Vida without poison isn't going to happen.   She's not ready though.  She's in her mid forties and still at:  that's just the way my mother is {shrug}.    It hasn't occurred to her to wonder why people even ask.  

I was curious about something Vida said about MJ's former boyfriends.  She said she's been proposed to more than once - so the not so subtle question was why this guy?  That made me wonder whether part of her attraction to Tommy is that he's not kowtow-y to her mom.

I fell asleep so I don't know if this is in the coming attractions or actually happened in this episode.  Did I actually see Reza-june fuggin sprinting after GG in a museum?  What happened?  Did she steal his rights to the word bitch?

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I like Tommy so far. He seems like he genuinely loves MJ and isn't necessarily into "reality tv stardom".

Vida is full of so much hate, animosity and bitterness because her husband left her for another woman. She comes across as a man hater who believes there are no decent men on the planet just because she got hurt.

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GG cracks me up. She has no time for a job!. Too busy getting mani's, pedi's, shopping,  hair done and acupuncture, of course. And she's getting a BRAVO paycheck! I like it when she makes fun of herself, she actually has a great sense of humor, too bad she can't keep the dark side from coming out so often.  

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1 hour ago, ZaldamoWilder said:

I was curious about something Vida said about MJ's former boyfriends.  She said she's been proposed to more than once - so the not so subtle question was why this guy?  That made me wonder whether part of her attraction to Tommy is that he's not kowtow-y to her mom.

Because she's in her mid 40's and can't keep screwing around if she wants to get preggers. 

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19 minutes ago, bichonblitz said:

Because she's in her mid 40's and can't keep screwing around if she wants to get preggers. 

No, I know lol, the question is for/from Vida.  It was as though she said you've had much better opportunities than this dude. 

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Just now, ZaldamoWilder said:

No, I know lol, the question is for/from Vida.  It was as though she said you've had much better opportunities than this dude.

Yea, I agree.  Was surprised at that comment, too. MJ is no prize, but I always got the impression that Vida had a problem with ALL of MJ's boyfriends. 

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So dumb, MJ and her faux bridal, getting rid of her costume jewelry so she can make room for the good stuff...complete set up.  Asa screeched over the beginning of the proposal then the actual question got lost in the shuffle and honestly I heard "baby" from either one of them one more time I was going to throw up.

Vida, ugh really, I cannot even imagine growing up with a mother like that.

The DIY cake decorating was awful, those were some terrible looking cakes, has MJ even seen a cake before?

I never noticed GG's apartment was so absent of personality, not one piece of artwork anywhere.  I did notice she answered the door without a knife. 
 

Asa shooting pics of Mike while in heels really prevents her from getting some better angles, she can't really move around in the rough terrain.

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Mike may be an asshole, but I was cheering him on when he clapped back at Vida.  What a terror.  I'd move across the world if she were my mother.

MJ looked a little too bridal to believe the proposal was a complete surprise.  Still, I'm happy for them, especially if they can get married without Vida ruining everything.  I suggest investing in a muzzle.  Or a sedative.

I liked that GG made it clear that her only problem was with Reza and his assholishness about her illness.  I get the feeling she's about to blow his life apart for being a dick to her.  Now does she really have video?  IDK, but she has something.

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20 minutes ago, OnceSane said:

liked that GG made it clear that her only problem was with Reza and his assholishness about her illness.  I get the feeling she's about to blow his life apart for being a dick to her.  Now does she really have video?  IDK, but she has something.

I hope to god she does. Reza is the absolute worst--insinuating himself into everyone else's business under the pretense of being a concerned friend, wreaking havoc and then subsequently backing off to relish in schadenfreude in his talking heads. I don't think that man has a single kind or well intentioned bone in his body. Let GG expose Reza for the lying, cheating scum bag he really is and let the rest of the Shahs be done with his shady ass. It's well past time he was the one ostracized from the group.

 

Sidenote...did anyone catch the way Shervin looked at/checked out the jeweler at Icing on the Ring when he first walked in? I had to replay that scene just to be sure but his eyes definitely lit up in a way they never have around Analise or any other woman for that matter.

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35 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

So dumb, MJ and her faux bridal, getting rid of her costume jewelry so she can make room for the good stuff...complete set up.  Asa screeched over the beginning of the proposal then the actual question got lost in the shuffle and honestly I heard "baby" from either one of them one more time I was going to throw up.

Vida, ugh really, I cannot even imagine growing up with a mother like that.

The DIY cake decorating was awful, those were some terrible looking cakes, has MJ even seen a cake before?

I never noticed GG's apartment was so absent of personality, not one piece of artwork anywhere.  I did notice she answered the door without a knife. 
 

Asa shooting pics of Mike while in heels really prevents her from getting some better angles, she can't really move around in the rough terrain.

I forgot that this part that made me furious.   Vida's (a) picking strips of deco off MJ's cake.   because (b) she hates the way it looks, cakes don't look like that.   wait for it.....(c) she has the same ribbon-y shit on the top of her cake.    I was like Merced-eh?  just leave her, the cake, your bag, the coffee, all of it, just pay the bill get up and never look back at this bitch. 

bwahaaaaaaaaa!!!!  at the reunion wait for reza to say it's probably because her RA makes it hard to hold.

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1 hour ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Asa shooting pics of Mike while in heels really prevents her from getting some better angles, she can't really move around in the rough terrain.

Asa is a dilettante. I wonder who underwrites her "art" projects.

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1 hour ago, Rahul said:

Sidenote...did anyone catch the way Shervin looked at/checked out the jeweler at Icing on the Ring when he first walked in? I had to replay that scene just to be sure but his eyes definitely lit up in a way they never have around Analise or any other woman for that matter.

Totally caught that, too.

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10 hours ago, Petunia13 said:

Tommy works for some security/surveillance company in sales I think. 

 

While he might be on the up and up. just getting tangled with MJ makes me think "security/surveillance company in sales" means he sells stolen ADT lawn signs out of the back of his car.

 

I think Vida is one of the foulest people on pretty much any BRAVO show.  And I think MJ gets a lot of her own vicious hurtful nature from her.  But I'm not all that sure it is 100% nurture.  I think MJ likes hurting people.  She likes tearing people down.  And I think that might just be who she would be if she had a saint for a parent.  Mean can be inborn.  I think Vida might have just honed it a bit.

The only way I want to see any more of Vida is to stick her, Kandee's mother from the Atlanta show and Jill Zarin's mother in an elevator with a camera and sound and leave them there for an hour.   If by chance they actually bond, in the best interests of humanity, of course we drop the elevator 100 floors.  It's the only option.  But I bet mouths will be trying to flay the skin off each other.

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19 hours ago, jumper sage said:

How in the world would Reza think the laws aren't inclusive of surprise weddings?  No one has a surprise wedding.  I yelled it at the TV!

So Reza really isn't married to Adam? Good luck getting Adam hitched now. ha ha

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1 minute ago, Ubiquitous said:

So Reza really isn't married to Adam? Good luck getting Adam hitched now. ha ha

They resaid their vows on last nights episode and Asa signed the wedding license, so.....they are now legally married.

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What was Tommy saying about his past? I couldn’t hear it with the sobbing. Are we talking jail time or something?

MJ has a severely dysfunctional relationship with her mother. From the earlier season I could have sworn MJ said that Vida left her father for another man when MJ was very young. MJ lived with her father and her mother was always critical with MJ when she would visit.  MJ is 45ish she’s not going to break away from Vida at this point.

Asa taking pictures of Mike. No Asa you’re not losing light, you’re wearing SUNGLASSES looking through the camera lens you knucklehead.

Shervyn. I understand if he wishes not to or ever come out of the closet, but he needs to make up a story a little bit more plausible than Australian Barbie. i.e. I am in love with a girl currently incarcerated.

Reza  the hijacker comment was in poor taste I wonder how much flack you’re getting on social media

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7 hours ago, OnceSane said:

Mike may be an asshole, but I was cheering him on when he clapped back at Vida.  What a terror.  I'd move across the world if she were my mother.

MJ looked a little too bridal to believe the proposal was a complete surprise.  Still, I'm happy for them, especially if they can get married without Vida ruining everything.  I suggest investing in a muzzle.  Or a sedative.

I liked that GG made it clear that her only problem was with Reza and his assholishness about her illness.  I get the feeling she's about to blow his life apart for being a dick to her.  Now does she really have video?  IDK, but she has something.

To me, she looked like a bride who forgot to put on her wedding gown.  She looked like she was squeezed into someone else's much too small body shaper.  

If MJ would just learn to size up in her clothing, and maybe do away with all the body-con fashions, she would actually look attractive.

I, too, was virtually high-fiving Mike with his comments to Vida.  She is a nasty, nasty person, and last night, it showed that MJ isn't the only one that she can be nasty with.  

I only tuned in when it was about 1/2 through, so I missed the parts with GG and Reza - I'll catch it on a rerun.  

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1 hour ago, Willowsmom said:

All that really had to happen was Asa and witnesses signing. The rest was nonsense.

Hell they could have just had the county clerk who issued the license do it.

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4 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

MJ has a severely dysfunctional relationship with her mother. From the earlier season I could have sworn MJ said that Vida left her father for another man when MJ was very young. MJ lived with her father and her mother was always critical with MJ when she would visit.  MJ is 45ish she’s not going to break away from Vida at this point.

What?????  If true, how is this not the sword in which to slay the dragon that is Vida?  I would so say nasty things, only because she is nasty though.

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Vida needs to be pushed into a grave so others can dance upon it. God that woman is vile. Not proud of your daughter...you think she is proud of having an acid spewing harpy for a...... germination tank as one shouldn't even call her a mother. I would venture to say she was a harpy to her husband long before he had a mistress and that is why he left. She is poison and toxic. The look of disdain on Vida's face when Tommy proposed..... I hope that woman rots in hell.  I cheered Mike taking on that bitch and thought less of the others for not deflecting the bombardment heaved his way and I think Tommy handled him well when it started to escalate. 

The best thing Tommy could do for MJ is move her back East. The next best would be to lay down the law the moment Vida dives into MJ and boot her ass out any time she is out of line.

Only after a sustained period of time will I believe any changes MJ made.

Don't care about Reza he is the same old tired ass bitch that he was at the beginning of the series. I hope GG does have something on him.

I'm long over Asa's priestess shtick. She hauls out that raggedy ass turban evert time she can poor thing.

 

 

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Maybe I'm in the minority but I actually like Tommy...(well for now, we all know how as the seasons go on, there is usually reasons to NOT like the person you thought was so great lol) and his proposal had me a little misty-eyed. I thought it was so sweet and sincere.  However, I do feel for him as I think MJ is probably too much of a fame whore for their relationship to be "till death do us part".  But he does seem like a good hearted guy.

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10 hours ago, jumper sage said:

What?????  If true, how is this not the sword in which to slay the dragon that is Vida?  I would so say nasty things, only because she is nasty though.

Yeah I'm pretty sure of it. That story was retold by MJ. Vida basically abandonned her husband and child. Vida moved somewhere close by and every once in a while she dropped by to pick up MJ. So from a very early age, MJ was trying to get her mother's approval and was trying to understand what she did to make her mother leave.

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31 minutes ago, KungFuBunny said:

Yeah I'm pretty sure of it. That story was retold by MJ. Vida basically abandonned her husband and child. Vida moved somewhere close by and every once in a while she dropped by to pick up MJ. So from a very early age, MJ was trying to get her mother's approval and was trying to understand what she did to make her mother leave.

I see the psychology there but really, at 40+ years old, it is time to slay the dragon.

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If MJ wants to remain Vida's emotional dart board she has only herself to blame. You cut those people out of your life as much as you can. You block their number, you hang up if they borrow a phone, you don't answer the door. You don't engage because they don't respect you or anything you say. If it starts, and by this time you know the cues, you leave immediately without explanation because they get off on you voicing why you are leaving. It validates that they won. You die and they will blame you, rag on you but love the attention they get. You really don't matter to them.

MJ will never have Vida's love. Even if Vida were on her death bed confessing her love, It won't be real and it's not for MJ but for Vida, she is an abuser with one last head game to play.

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