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Sorry about your loss Crosby! Have loved your posts on this site for a long time.

Just saying howdy I'm a committed lurker here and love all the wit and sass on the Y&R boards. As bad as the show is, I'm trying to watch more and get on here to discuss a little more. I'm getting married next month in Mexico and things are really going well in my life but soon-to-be has several days a week where he works LONG days between work and school. Upon self-reflection I'm spending too much of those solo days having too many LONG happy hours in the bar (having a lot of server/bartender friends in the neighborhood doesn't help) and I want to look good at the wedding. Frankly, a little nervous it's creeping out of control--just enough it's bothering me and I really have no excuse as I do have many hobbies that I enjoy. Including the longtime guilty pleasures like Y&R! :) 

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3 hours ago, crosby777 said:

For real.. thank you.. I have been getting lots of real time support but it is especially nice from my soap buds.. bad thing tho I can't even argue about the soaps right now.... they all suck so bad

Anytime, Crosby. Take advantage of your real time support system; they want to help you. Allow something pleasurable for yourself as well -- You deserve a little gentle treatment.

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13 hours ago, Cupid Stunt said:

The Manilla of Ontario is looking very balmy. Are the Durians ripe yet?

No--good thing, too! I don't have the plastic sealing machine ready yet.

The rambutan are looking good though...

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Carol Channing died at 12:31am on Tuesday, January 15th, 2019, at home in Rancho Mirage, CA of natural causes.

B Harlan Boll, MsChanning's publicist, released the following statement: It is with extreme heartache, that I have to announce the passing of an original Industry Pioneer, Legend and Icon - Miss Carol Channing. I admired her before I met her, and have loved her since the day she stepped ... or fell rather ... into my life. It is so very hard to see the final curtain lower on a woman who has been a daily part of my life for more than a third of it. We supported each other, cried with each other, argued with each other, but always ended up laughing with each other. Saying good-bye is one of the hardest things I have ever had to do, but I know that when I feel those uncontrollable urges to laugh at everything and/or nothing at all, it will be because she is with me, tickling my funny bone.

 

Carol was born Jan 31, 1921 in Seattle, Washington, the daughter of a prominent newspaper editor, who was very active in the Christian Science movement. At just two weeks of age, her father's work took the family to San Francisco, where Carol was raised, schooled and eventually found work as a model. Through determination, hard work, and her family's support (not to mention a mandatory IQ test for which she scored one of the highest recorded results), Carol was able to attend Bennington College in Vermont that had one of the few existing arts programs in the country, majoring in drama and dance.

A recipient of the 1995 Lifetime Achievement Tony Award, Ms. Channing has been a star of international acclaim since a Time magazine cover story hailed her performance as Lorelei Lee in "Gentleman Prefer Blondes" writing; "Perhaps once in a decade a nova explodes above the Great White Way with enough brilliance to re-illumine the whole gaudy legend of show business."

Since her 1948 Broadway debut in Blitzstein's "No For An Answer," her Broadway appearances have included "So Proudly We Hail," "Let's Face It," "Lend An Ear," "Gentlemen Prefer Blondes," "Show Girl," "Pygmalion," "The Millionairess," "The Vamp," "Four On A Garden," and "Wonderful Town." In addition to receiving a special Tony Award in 1968, she won the Tony Award in 1964 for her legendary portrayal of Dolly Levi in Jerry Herman's "Hello, Dolly!"

She had since played the role in over 5000 performances, without missing a single performance. She then toured with her own revue, "Carol Channing and Her Ten Stout Hearted Men" and critically acclaimed tours of "Jerry's Girls" and "Legends," in which she co-starred with Mary Martin.

Ms. Channing's happiest film project was in the role of Muzzy in "Thoroughly Modern Millie," which earned her an Oscar nomination and a Golden Globe Award. Other films include "Paid In Full," "The First Traveling Saleslady" (giving new comer Clint Eastwoodhis first on screen kiss), "Skidoo," "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band," "Archie and Mehitabel" and "Thumbelina."

Ms. Channing TV specials, include "Broadway at the Hollywood Bowl," "Carol Channing's Los Angeles," "Carol Channing and Pearl Bailey on Broadway," "George Burns - His Wit and Wisdom" and to millions of children worldwide is best known as the White Queen in "Alice Through the Looking Glass." Other television credits include popular game shows as "What's My Line," "I've Got a Secret," "Password," and "Hollywood Squares," variety shows such as "The Dean Martin Show," "The Red Skelton Show," "The Milton Berle Show," "Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In," "The Carol Burnett Show," "The Muppet Show," as well as many Tony and Grammy broadcasts. A partial list of Carol's Episodic work consist of Playhouse 90's "Three Men on a Horse," "The Love Boat," "Magnum, P.I.," "The Nanny," "Touched by an Angel," "The Drew Carey Show" and "Family Guy."

As one of the most easily recognized and highly imitated voices in the world, Carol's unique sound has been established as characters and narrative in both TV series and documentaries like "JFK: The Day the Nation Cried," "The Adam's Family" (voice of Granny), "Thumbelina," "Free To Be You and Me," "Space Ghost," "Chip 'n Dale Rescue Rangers" and "The Brave Little Toaster Goes To Mars." Miss Channing also cut twenty children's albums of classic stories including "Winnie The Pooh" and "Madeline."

Ms. Channing has recorded ten gold Albums and including the original cast album of "Hello, Dolly!" released in 1964. Miss Channing has appeared in most every grand ballroom and concert hall in the country. Among her other acknowledgments is a Best Nightclub Act of the Year Award, Harvard University's Hasty Pudding Woman of the Year Award, the Oscar Hammerstein Award for lifetime achievement and the Julie Harris Lifetime Achievement Award from The Actors' Fund of America, but is most proud in the role of mother of Chan Lowe, who is a nationally syndicated editorial cartoonist, who has the distinction of being a Pulitzer Prize finalist.

In 1998, Carol moved to Palm Springs/Rancho Mirage to be close to her dear cousin Richard "Dicky" Long and loved the community so much, that she called it home for the remainder of her life. In 2003, the octogenarian released her best selling memoirs, "Just Lucky I Guess" and started touring world wide with her one woman show entitled "The First Eighty Years are the Hardest," after the very successful preview given to New York audiences that prompted the New York Times to say "Back Where She Belongs: Carol Channing Reminisces . . . The audience jumped to its feet more than once. We were watching a master performer" and Associated Press declared "The audience clearly was there to worship, and Channing did not disappoint." In 2004, Broadway's "first lady of musical comedy," received an honorary doctoral degree becoming Doctor Carol Channing from the California State University, Stanislaus Commencement (only the third Honorary Doctoral Degree given in CSU Stanislaus 45-year history).

In 2009, items representing Miss Channing's career were inducted into the Smithsonian Institute in D.C., along with eight other legendary ladies of stage and screen. Her original diamonds dress from the Broadway production of "Lorelei," worn while singing "Diamonds Are A Girls Best Friend" and her "Hello Dolly!" gown (from the 95' tour), as well as her TONY Award for her portrayal of Dolly Gallagher Levy, are currently part of the permanent collection at the Smithsonian Institutions American History Museum. In addition, her 1995 Lifetime Achievement Tony Award can be seen on exhibit at The Hollywood Museum and her star on The Hollywood Walk of Fame is located in front of the Pantages Theater on Hollywood Blvd.

In 2010, Carol returned to the Great White Way, performing at the New Amsterdam theatre on 42nd Street, with many returning "Dolly boys" from previous "Hello Dolly!" tours and received the "Gypsy Award" from Broadway Cares/Equity Fights AIDS." In January 2012, mutli-TONY winning director and producer, Dori Berinstein, released the critically acclaimed and award winning documentary entitled "Carol Channing: Larger Than Life," highlighting Carol's 70 plus year career. Her last public appearance was on her 95th birthday at the McCallum Theater to a record breaking crowd of fans from all around the world, that sold out in only a couple hours and featured an all star extravaganza to honor her. In late 2018, artist Khoi Nguyen, used his PHD in mathematics to create a prolific painting of the actress, comedienne and activist, that allowed more than 43,000 friends and fans (as well as herself) to participate by affixing their fingerprint onto the work, each linked to a personal video interview about Miss Channing and her efforts to raise awareness with regard to the need for arts in education.

Carol is survived by her son, Channing Lowe and close family member, Sylvia Long. Services have not yet been determined.

In lieu of flowers, a tribute gift/donation to the Carol Channing Theater at Lowell High School -- San Francisco, California 94132 or the McCallum Theatre -- Palm Desert, CA in Ms Channing's honor would be very much appreciated.

From Carol Channing's one woman show "The First Eighty Years are the Hardest"

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2 hours ago, Cupid Stunt said:

Thing1 was accepted into the Caltech Physics and Mathematics Division Grad studies -- Yay!

Congrats to you both!

PearliteLite starts her doctorate in September, chez nous.

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On 1/15/2019 at 5:40 AM, crosby777 said:

For real.. thank you.. I have been getting lots of real time support but it is especially nice from my soap buds.. bad thing tho I can't even argue about the soaps right now.... they all suck so bad

Well, you can argue with those of us who think the show is good.  Oh...wait...

I'm very sorry for your loss @crosby777

On 1/15/2019 at 9:37 AM, Cupid Stunt said:

Carol Channing died at 12:31am on Tuesday, January 15th, 2019, at home in Rancho Mirage, CA of natural causes.

The one random stupid think I think about regarding Carol Channing.  My sister's former co-worker saw Carol Channing in NYC in a restaurant's ladies room, and she didn't wash her hands.

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Very late to the party, happy belated birthday @boes!  I hope you had a great day :)

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6 hours ago, pearlite said:

Congrats to you both!

PearliteLite starts her doctorate in September, chez nous.

It's 1987 Crystal Light National Aerobic Championship Jazzersize of joy in the Stunt house!

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Wonderful news, Pearlite and PearliteLite. Congratulations!

Will PearliteLite be going to school in Canada?

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9 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

Congratulations CS and pearlite! You must be so proud and I''m so glad to know two such exemplary parents!

That’s amazing @Cupid Stunt and @pearlite. 🙌🏻 Great job to both kids on their hard work and talent. 

@crosby777 I hope you’re feeling ok - sending lots of prayers your way and vibes. ❤️

Most of my customers are nice or sweet but I’ve had some ... interesting ones lately. Like almost out of a MadTv or Boiling Points episode. This snobby lady today with me had some outlandish demands and was very hostile and aggressive. And she ate a sandwich without paying then threw her chewed up garbage all over. But a coworker, a sweet girl from Germany, had a customer reach out and pull her hair yesterday. 

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2 hours ago, Petunia13 said:

That’s amazing @Cupid Stunt and @pearlite. 🙌🏻 Great job to both kids on their hard work and talent. 

@crosby777 I hope you’re feeling ok - sending lots of prayers your way and vibes. ❤️

Most of my customers are nice or sweet but I’ve had some ... interesting ones lately. Like almost out of a MadTv or Boiling Points episode. This snobby lady today with me had some outlandish demands and was very hostile and aggressive. And she ate a sandwich without paying then threw her chewed up garbage all over. But a coworker, a sweet girl from Germany, had a customer reach out and pull her hair yesterday. 

Petunia13, are you feeling better?  How's the strep?  

Bad customers make good story but what horrors they are in real time.  I'm sorry you and your coworkers have to experience that crap.

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I am feeling much better today.. Got a lot of the bs out of the way so I am feeling more clear headed. Thanks again everyone.

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12 hours ago, Cupid Stunt said:

Wonderful news, Pearlite and PearliteLite. Congratulations!

Will PearliteLite be going to school in Canada?

Yes, U of T. Yale wanted her to stay there--she, on the other hand, wanted the hell out of the Ivies. Oxford and a coupla others were sniffing, but oddly U of T is the only place with advisors who work in her areas--philosophy, comparative literatures, and theology. So, all good!

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One of my best friends went to U of T for law school (he was from Ottawa but did undergrad in the states where we met) and I visited him so much and kind of fell in love with Toronto! I'd move there in a second!

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10 hours ago, Petunia13 said:

But a coworker, a sweet girl from Germany, had a customer reach out and pull her hair yesterday. 

Love it! Why are people so nasty? Is there something in the water? :(

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1 hour ago, JasonCC said:

One of my best friends went to U of T for law school (he was from Ottawa but did undergrad in the states where we met) and I visited him so much and kind of fell in love with Toronto! I'd move there in a second!

Wow, JasonCC, these coincidences are funny!

The whole area where the university is is really nice. I don't know where you live, but you may want to take a pass on January and February here...

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15 hours ago, Petunia13 said:

Most of my customers are nice or sweet but I’ve had some ... interesting ones lately. Like almost out of a MadTv or Boiling Points episode. This snobby lady today with me had some outlandish demands and was very hostile and aggressive. And she ate a sandwich without paying then threw her chewed up garbage all over. But a coworker, a sweet girl from Germany, had a customer reach out and pull her hair yesterday. 

Hair pulling? Why would anyone do that?

Was the deli manager contacted? No service worker should be touched by a customer for any reason -- As if serving customers weren't a difficult enough job, you have to guard from having your personal privacy invaded?

 

Mean and stupid people <shakes head> Why can't they stay home and prey on themselves?

 

6 hours ago, pearlite said:

Yes, U of T. Yale wanted her to stay there--she, on the other hand, wanted the hell out of the Ivies. Oxford and a coupla others were sniffing, but oddly U of T is the only place with advisors who work in her areas--philosophy, comparative literatures, and theology. So, all good!

(((Pearlite!))) PearliteLite's worked hard for this doctorate opportunity. Excellent outcome for your young'un'.

Thing1 will be in Pasadena. Mr.Stunt is looking for housing for her. I would love to have her stay with us, but back to living with M&P … She's been on her own too long.

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Was the deli manager contacted? No service worker should be touched by a customer for any reason -- As if serving customers weren't a difficult enough job, you have to guard from having your personal privacy invaded?

My flower shop was in the lobby of a high rise office building and one time a guy from one of the offices came in a put his hands around my neck because I was out of yellow roses. It was the end of the day on Valentines Day. I told the owners and they 86'd him. He also used to grab the hands of the girls who worked at the deli across the lobby from me. They had to set his change on the counter and never give him the opportunity to touch them. Some people are just way messed up.

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On 1/15/2019 at 9:36 AM, JasonCC said:

Sorry about your loss Crosby! Have loved your posts on this site for a long time.

Just saying howdy I'm a committed lurker here and love all the wit and sass on the Y&R boards. As bad as the show is, I'm trying to watch more and get on here to discuss a little more. I'm getting married next month in Mexico and things are really going well in my life but soon-to-be has several days a week where he works LONG days between work and school. Upon self-reflection I'm spending too much of those solo days having too many LONG happy hours in the bar (having a lot of server/bartender friends in the neighborhood doesn't help) and I want to look good at the wedding. Frankly, a little nervous it's creeping out of control--just enough it's bothering me and I really have no excuse as I do have many hobbies that I enjoy. Including the longtime guilty pleasures like Y&R! :) 

Thanks so much, I love your stuff too,, and congrats on the marriage.. :)

21 hours ago, JasonCC said:

One of my best friends went to U of T for law school (he was from Ottawa but did undergrad in the states where we met) and I visited him so much and kind of fell in love with Toronto! I'd move there in a second!

I lived in TO eons ago.. now I am in Nova Scotia so if you come that way let me know and we can do lunch or drinkies.

20 hours ago, Sake614 said:

Love it! Why are people so nasty? Is there something in the water? :(

I worked in a sandwich shop in Toronto and had some street person follow me to work and then she grabbed an orange from the counter and threw it at me calling me a big titted whore :P

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Germs Bassist Lorna Doom Dead at 61

Lorna Doom, the bassist of the seminal Los Angeles punk band Germs, has died. The cause of death is currently unknown, but her passing was confirmed by former Germs drummer Don Bolles in a Facebook post earlier today. “She left this mortal coil today around 1,” he wrote in a Facebook comment. She was 61.

Born Teresa Ryan, Doom joined Germs in the mid-’70s. The lineup at the time included vocalist Jan Paul Beahm (Darby Crash), guitarist Georg Ruthenberg (Pat Smear), and Belinda Carlisle—who would later become the lead singer of the Go-Go’s—on drums. After a couple of personnel switch-ups, the band recruited drummer Don Bolles and released their lone influential album, (GI) in 1979. Produced by Joan Jett, the album has been heralded as the greatest Punk albums of all time.”

The group released only a handful of singles and live recordings during their brief lifespan. Germs’ multiple performances at storied Hollywood venues such as the Masque, the Roxy, and the Whiskey a Go Go were chronicled in oral histories by Brendan Mullen and Marc Spitz. They were prominently featured in Penelope Spheeris’ iconic 1981 punk documentary The Decline of Western Civilization.

Germs disbanded in 1980 after Darby Crash died by suicide at the age of 22. In 2005, Lorna Doom, Pat Smear, and Don Bolles were joined onstage by actor Shane West for a Germs reunion show, an idea spawned by West’s performance as Darby Crash in the Germs biopic What We Do Is Secret. The “new” Germs continued performed a handful of concerts with this lineup.

 

Is our daily cup of coffee under threat?

 

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I am hoping for clear skies Sunday night. Too many times over the course of 2018’s celestial happenings, clouds obliterated the night sky. Very disappointing. 😫

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Here's a nice picture of the street at the end of my block...for you winter fans.

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10 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

What a quaint, picturesque place you live, pearlite!

Well, it's kind of old, at any rate--1880s give or take. But apparently idiots will ride bikes in the snow.

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We used to have a really good book store within walking distance but the decided to turn the cute little shopping village into a high rise with underground parking. We do however have a library within a few blocks of our house.

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1 hour ago, peacheslatour said:

We used to have a really good book store within walking distance but the decided to turn the cute little shopping village into a high rise with underground parking. We do however have a library within a few blocks of our house.

The loss of bookstores has been stunning.  San Francisco has only two left downtown, both small and only one really decent used bookstore left in the whole city.  The suburb I live in has one used bookstore left and the surrounding towns, zilch.

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This makes me so sad. Our children have lost all of these bookstores to wander around in and talk about books. And our grandchildren are left without having any of these wonderful, comforting memories. Sigh.

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Pearlite, do you remember a kids’ bookstore in Toronto called (oddly enough) the Children’s Bookstore? It may have been on Avenue Road, but I don’t remember exactly. My mom used to take me there a couple times a year when I was a kid, when she had to go to Toronto for business. I also remember she and I would go for lunch at the Courtyard Café - I felt very posh! 😄

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6 hours ago, Capricasix said:

Pearlite, do you remember a kids’ bookstore in Toronto called (oddly enough) the Children’s Bookstore? It may have been on Avenue Road, but I don’t remember exactly. My mom used to take me there a couple times a year when I was a kid, when she had to go to Toronto for business. I also remember she and I would go for lunch at the Courtyard Café - I felt very posh! 😄

The Children's Bookstore

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12 hours ago, Capricasix said:

Pearlite, do you remember a kids’ bookstore in Toronto called (oddly enough) the Children’s Bookstore? It may have been on Avenue Road, but I don’t remember exactly. My mom used to take me there a couple times a year when I was a kid, when she had to go to Toronto for business. I also remember she and I would go for lunch at the Courtyard Café - I felt very posh! 😄

Wonderful place! Ah the Courtyard...

Where I live [Roncesvalles], when I first moved here with PearliteLite, when the area was much less trendy, there was an equally wonderful children's bookstore--can't recall the name of it now.

We do have 3 or 4 independent bookstores along Roncey--varying quality, but they are surviving.

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On ‎1‎/‎19‎/‎2019 at 6:25 PM, boes said:

The loss of bookstores has been stunning.  San Francisco has only two left downtown, both small and only one really decent used bookstore left in the whole city.  The suburb I live in has one used bookstore left and the surrounding towns, zilch.

We have 100's of Little Free Libraries (that's where I drop off books), craigslist lists flea/book sales, 8+ independent new/used bookstores (favorites are Iliad, Burbank Military, and Book Monster), 2 B&Ns, the Rose Bowl Flea Market has 20+ used book stalls, Goodwill has a huge selection of used books, and 10 specialty used books (locally Autobooks/Aerobooks, Larry Edmonds, Counterpoint, Samuel French), esoteric studies, and 3 children's book sellers. All public/private colleges and universities have bookstores. The Los Angeles Central and Regional Library system is an excellent resource. 

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1 hour ago, Cupid Stunt said:

We have 100's of Little Free Libraries (that's where I drop off books), craigslist lists flea/book sales, 8+ independent new/used bookstores (favorites are Iliad, Burbank Military, and Book Monster), 2 B&Ns, the Rose Bowl Flea Market has 20+ used book stalls, Goodwill has a huge selection of used books, and 10 specialty used books (locally Autobooks/Aerobooks, Larry Edmonds, Counterpoint, Samuel French), esoteric studies, and 3 children's book sellers. All public/private colleges and universities have bookstores. The Los Angeles Central and Regional Library system is an excellent resource. 

You're in much better shape bookstore-wise than we are.

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10 hours ago, Cupid Stunt said:

We have 100's of Little Free Libraries (that's where I drop off books), craigslist lists flea/book sales, 8+ independent new/used bookstores (favorites are Iliad, Burbank Military, and Book Monster), 2 B&Ns, the Rose Bowl Flea Market has 20+ used book stalls, Goodwill has a huge selection of used books, and 10 specialty used books (locally Autobooks/Aerobooks, Larry Edmonds, Counterpoint, Samuel French), esoteric studies, and 3 children's book sellers. All public/private colleges and universities have bookstores. The Los Angeles Central and Regional Library system is an excellent resource. 

Yes, I always forget--Value Village has miles of used books, and I've made some surprising scores there. Used bookstores are still at most west-Toronto downtown intersections, but rising rents are hurting some of them. And the Toronto Library system is really good. Oddly, I don't browse in stores or libraries--I nearly always know exactly what I want, and I have running lists, so I just hit Amazon. Sadly, I don't have much time to read exclusively for pleasure, although I do like the things my research and work are based on, so I'm lucky. And you reminded me about university/college bookstores--we're pretty well covered there.

The chain operations like Indigo, and I think B & N moved in up here are mainly tchochke shops with a lot of hard-cover Mari Kondo...

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10 hours ago, boes said:

You're in much better shape bookstore-wise than we are.

It has a lot to do with an active immigrant population, cash transactions, film/TV industry, and land use still available for the secondary/used retail market in LA.

Land is at a premium all over CA, but SF is in a crisis -- affordable retail is being squeezed out for big dollar returns.

 

1 hour ago, pearlite said:

The chain operations like Indigo, and I think B & N moved in up here are mainly tchochke shops with a lot of hard-cover Mari Kondo...

The !ndigo store at the Yorkdale Mall I visited appeared to be a gift/lifestyle franchise with an incidental book section.

Our B&N got rid of the music/movie section, ousted the coffee shop (the neighboring Starbucks expanded their footprint), and moved all their gift items into the void that created. The management expanded their live readings and author meet-and-greets. <shrug> It's a brick-and-mortar store that is doing everything it can to generate foot traffic -- If that means camp followers spending their dosh on organizing theory books to stack on top of the accumulated stuff they cannot let go of -- That's called successful marketing.

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"We know through painful experience that freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor; it must be demanded by the oppressed."

Letter from a Birmingham Jail -- Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.  -- April 16, 1963

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25 minutes ago, Cupid Stunt said:

IThe !ndigo store at the Yorkdale Mall I visited appeared to be a gift/lifestyle franchise with an incidental book section.

Our B&N got rid of the music/movie section, ousted the coffee shop (the neighboring Starbucks expanded their footprint), and moved all their gift items into the void that created. The management expanded their live readings and author meet-and-greets. <shrug> It's a brick-and-mortar store that is doing everything it can to generate foot traffic -- If that means camp followers spending their dosh on organizing theory books to stack on top of the accumulated stuff they cannot let go of -- That's called successful marketing.

; )We know through painful experience that freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor; it must be demanded by the oppressed."

Letter from a Birmingham Jail -- Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.  -- April 16, 1963

Hah, Yorkdale--an experience in suburban aspirational something or other. Also home to the odd shoot-out. Haven't been in in years. But then, other than driving to the university where I teach [in what I call the DMZ], I don't venture too far north or into malls.

The King letter--very familiar--I use it with second-year rhetoric students who are goosey about delving into my stuff on performance rhetoric, and material rhetoric. You'd think they'd wanna write about how videogames work rhetorically, wouldncha? But no.

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3 hours ago, Cupid Stunt said:

It has a lot to do with an active immigrant population, cash transactions, film/TV industry, and land use still available for the secondary/used retail market in LA.

Land is at a premium all over CA, but SF is in a crisis -- affordable retail is being squeezed out for big dollar returns.

It's gotten so bad that even the Union Square shopping district, the prime shopping area for high end retail has an alarming number of empty storefronts, a good number of which have been empty for a year or more.  Plus, there was a new mall built on Market Street only blocks away that has sat empty since it was completed more than a year ago.  All of the tenants who had previously planned to go in there have either rescinded and are pulling back on floor space at their old locations or in some cases, have ceased brick and mortar operations completely.  There's a push to rezone more retail as office space because office space in the city has reached astronomical rents but even there, some landlords are pricing themselves out of the market.

It's nuts, totally nuts.

And don't get me started on rents and home prices - we don't live out of the city because we wanted to.....

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Yeah, that sums up Indigo pretty well. Back when Chapters first opened, and before it was swallowed up by Indigo, it was a great bookstore.

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4 hours ago, pearlite said:

Hah, Yorkdale--an experience in suburban aspirational something or other. Also home to the odd shoot-out. Haven't been in in years. But then, other than driving to the university where I teach [in what I call the DMZ], I don't venture too far north or into malls.

I'll admit it was a peculiar shopping invitation. There was a Hudson Bay kiosk where I picked up a couple of blankets and maple leaf mittens.

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The next day I moved on to vintage and consignment stores, and had a delightful time. 

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The King letter--very familiar--I use it with second-year rhetoric students who are goosey about delving into my stuff on performance rhetoric, and material rhetoric. You'd think they'd wanna write about how videogames work rhetorically, wouldncha? But no.

Hell, no!

Capitulation and cowardice are common enough; One size fits all.

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On ‎1‎/‎21‎/‎2019 at 4:15 PM, Capricasix said:

Yeah, that sums up Indigo pretty well. Back when Chapters first opened, and before it was swallowed up by Indigo, it was a great bookstore.

I worked for Coles and later Chapters until both were closed down. I hate that Indigo has basically become a lifestyle store selling cheap crap rather than books. They also got rid of all their employees with more than five years experience when Chapters closed down. They only  transferred employees with under five years experience including some seasonal hires that had only been with the company for a couple of months. The rest of us were told they couldn't find a 'fit' for us. I don't shop there anymore and buy everything on Amazon. 

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we have a stand alone chapters in nanaimo with a starbucks...my grand daughter requests gift certs. for presents.

my kids and grands are all readers.

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I would love that. When I was a kid we had Smith Brother's Farms. They would deliver milk, cream, butter, sour cream, yogurt and even ice cream. Of course, this was back when many families only had one car. My dad had the car all week and my mom did all her grocery shopping on Saturday

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4 hours ago, Cupid Stunt said:

A local, high end, ice cream company here started with this premise, and it was local, no huge shipping across the country costs.  You buy your wonderful ice cream in a glass jar, and you return the used jar(s) to the local store where you purchased it.  Then the ice cream co. picks up those jars and reuses them.  No money for the customer for returning the jar, but in my neighbourhood, people would do it for the reasons outlined, wanting to help make less of an impact on the environment.  They are already paying more for the ice cream so they don't care about a refund for the returned jar.

I don't know the actual story of why that changed, but that same company switched to plastic.  When I asked in my local store, they told me it was not viable for the company to do the glass reuse jars.  It was costing them more and cutting into profits.  That company is still in business, very popular.

All good ideas, but it always comes down to money.

3 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

I would love that. When I was a kid we had Smith Brother's Farms. They would deliver milk, cream, butter, sour cream, yogurt and even ice cream. Of course, this was back when many families only had one car. My dad had the car all week and my mom did all her grocery shopping on Saturday

We had a milk man too!  My mother invited him to my wedding and that got people talking.

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