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I'm late to the goose stuff but I adore geese and wanted to mention that the best way to humanely be rid of them is to hire someone with specially trained border collies. they patrol while the geese are on their way through, making sure that none stay long enough to nest there.

It was the slug excrement that attracted me to this thread. I deal with ALOT of honest to goodness shit every single day. It is really just bile mixed with undigested food. So could someone starving find nutrition in animal scat, providing it was really really really well rinsed? I'm thinking like deer or bunny scat  porridge, or that kind of thing. Is this nuts (aside from being gross).

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16 minutes ago, zamberlan said:

... So could someone starving find nutrition in animal scat, ....

Saw someone do it on a survival show, but do not remember which show or what kind of scat it was.

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Does anyone here watch "Building Alaska"?  The season that just ended, there was a father/son builder crew that was making a floating building in Edna Bay, Alaska.  They had a young apprentice carpenter named Carleigh.  I think it was "our" Carleigh of this season of Alone.  She certainly looked just like her.  Guess that's where she got her building skills.

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On 2/16/2017 at 3:21 PM, zamberlan said:

It was the slug excrement that attracted me to this thread.

Why hello! That line was certainly an attention-getter. I must ask, have you ever tried a variant of that as an ice breaker at a party?

On 5/31/2017 at 5:42 PM, ethalfrida said:

I hadn't. Now I'm wishing I'd been wearing ear plugs. I'm sure the bear would have liked that option, too.

Some people do not understand the concept of wild animals. It boggles my mind.

While touring Denali National Park in Alaska via bus, we came across a grizzly. The grizzly came extremely close to the bus. It walked right up beside it, past it, around in front of it, and wandered slowly down the road in front of it. The driver had repeatedly told us the importance of remaining quiet so that the bears (and other animals) did not acclimate to the presence of humans, and he reiterated about 82 times that no one could get off the bus. As the grizzly was walking just outside the bus, the oncologist in front of us loudly asked her (very annoying, very spoiled) children, "Do you want to get off the bus to see the bear?" SimplyMom, a former teacher, snapped in her best iron teacher's voice, "No one is getting off this bus." Dead silence. Topic dropped. Later SimplyMom confessed she just snapped and probably should have kept quiet, but I pointed out that her comment was more tactful than what I was about to say (which would have included a curse word followed by the word moron). My brother was slightly disappointed we hadn't gotten rid of the really annoying kids, but that would have ended poorly for the bear.

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17 hours ago, ChiCricket said:

OMGosh! Her voice! I wanted the bear to EAT her to shut her up! ;-)

 

16 hours ago, simplyme said:

Why hello! That line was certainly an attention-getter. I must ask, have you ever tried a variant of that as an ice breaker at a party?

I hadn't. Now I'm wishing I'd been wearing ear plugs. I'm sure the bear would have liked that option, too.

Some people do not understand the concept of wild animals. It boggles my mind.

While touring Denali National Park in Alaska via bus, we came across a grizzly. The grizzly came extremely close to the bus. It walked right up beside it, past it, around in front of it, and wandered slowly down the road in front of it. The driver had repeatedly told us the importance of remaining quiet so that the bears (and other animals) did not acclimate to the presence of humans, and he reiterated about 82 times that no one could get off the bus. As the grizzly was walking just outside the bus, the oncologist in front of us loudly asked her (very annoying, very spoiled) children, "Do you want to get off the bus to see the bear?" SimplyMom, a former teacher, snapped in her best iron teacher's voice, "No one is getting off this bus." Dead silence. Topic dropped. Later SimplyMom confessed she just snapped and probably should have kept quiet, but I pointed out that her comment was more tactful than what I was about to say (which would have included a curse word followed by the word moron). My brother was slightly disappointed we hadn't gotten rid of the really annoying kids, but that would have ended poorly for the bear.

I am cracking up at both of you! 

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We were discussing Dave's revelations, and now wondering how much more fakery is involved in this show. Alan, who lives nearby, never mentions the show any more in interviews. I'm signed up for one of his upcoming  self-defense classes, but I'm now a little wary of bringing up the show or questions. On a recent radio interview, he didn't mention the show at all, only when the host brought it up at the end, and then he brushed it off and changed the subject.

History has ruined this show. The ratings have to be suffering.

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I'm about to lose my mind!!

We are in the total eclipse zone, and we're having a big thing at our local park Sun/Mon. I managed to escape duty on Sunday, but I'll be there Monday. Our town's population is around 2,000. I'm already seeing traffic picking up and the local Ingles was packed yesterday and today. I'm afraid to go near Walmart. The Red Cross is here, as well as major catastrophe groups. Lord help us. :)

I am in charge of vendor and volunteer parking passes, and the list grows by the hour. Another lady was there today, spray painting the parking spaces and numbering them. I bet she's lost her mind along with mine. Maybe they can each find their way back to us. LOL

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The Red Cross and major catastrophe groups?  What do they think might happen?  

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It's one of those better safe than sorry scenarios.

Here's an interview with the mayor's wife, Barbara Hughes. She and her husband lived next door to us when I was little. Her husband was the principal at our elementary school back then, so I couldn't get away with anything.

First post/video on his page:

https://www.facebook.com/JMartinWRCB/?hc_ref=ARTGLY32pIUAsGQ69pVRarFVRXOGHHjG-ujZEwL1zIaaAPZjyIRBpT37FESjjRu2Fk0&fref=nf

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Murphy looks like a really nice town.  Beautiful scenery!  I hope the eclipse watchers don't cause problems.

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54 minutes ago, ClareWalks said:

Watching the Discovery show Bushcraft Build-Off, it is fascinating! Alone fans might enjoy it!

Thanks for the heads up... I heard Matt had a new series in the works about shelter building, but didn't realize it was airing... and, what the hey, it was starting right after I read your message. DVR now set to record.... Matt was always a favorite from Dual Survival.

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there's no way that they can keep you from taking stuff out of which you can make 1000+ sq ft of 2" mesh netting. You can use that netting to make seines, to catch every fish  in an inlet, or stretch of creek, , or to make a baited net-weir out in a lake or the ocean. It's nothing at all to average catching 5 lbs of fish per day with that much netting.  Netting can also catch snakes, turtles, crabs, crawdads, birds, mammals. When you  have some fat in which to fry it, tree cambium offers starches/carbs.. On Vancouver Island, there's kelp everywhere, so juice it. It only offers  50 calories per lb, so you can't eat enough of the plant-fiber to do you any good. It will give you the ripping trots. But juicing it, with a big wooden mortar and pestle will work. Netting protects your catch from predators (a bit, at least). the sapling framed box traps are readily portable, unlike deadfalls. You can use netting  to keep fish alive while you prepare the drying/smoking racks needed to preserve them, if you've caught more than you can readily eat. That's what you need to be doing, for the times when you can't gather any food.

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On 11/26/2017 at 11:39 AM, ClareWalks said:

Watching the Disc?overy show Bushcraft Build-Off, it is fascinating! Alone fans might enjoy it!

I would enjoy that and I am a big fan of Matt. What day and time is it on?

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11 minutes ago, qtpye said:

I would enjoy that and I am a big fan of Matt. What day and time is it on?

Oh heck that was back in November, LOL! Not sure if they show reruns or what. It might be online somewhere!

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1 hour ago, ClareWalks said:

Oh heck that was back in November, LOL! Not sure if they show reruns or what. It might be online somewhere!

Thanks...I'll try to see if I can find it.

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If the producers ever decide to do a "celebrity" edition, they should recruit those folks from the show "Life Below Zero".  Those people life in remote areas of Alaska/the Arctic Circle and know how to live off the land in harsh conditions.  Also, that woman Sue is a tough bird who lives alone most of the time by choice.  She has said that she can't function in an urban environment. I can't see her getting all boohoo about being alone or needing to be around people.  She even had a bear encounter and lived to tell about it.  Most of the other people on LBZ are equally as capable and experienced in living off the land.   They would be a great lineup for future Alone seasons.

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He's said that he was starving at his original site. It never  even occurred to him to make a pontoon outrigger raft, so that he could get around an outcropping of rocks, to a better spot. He finally, after losing  25 lbs of bodyweight in  a month, discovered that he could, at low tide, clamber over a lot of slimy boulders and reach a better foraging area. He didn't MOVE there, tho, cause he didnt dare try to move 70+ lbs of gear and clothing over those boulders. All he had to do was pick a calm half an hour on the sea, and paddle around the outcropping, with everything aboard the raft. You can build such a raft in a day. They give you lots of stuff that will float, so the" flotation-quotient" of local wood doesn't matter. You aint trying to cross the Atlantic with your little craft. You just want to be able to service your netting/and-sapling-framed crab traps, net-weirs and gillnets without getting soaked in cold water. Nothing keeps you from bringing a commercial fisherman's rainsuit, ya know!

 

Dave's claimed that he lost no weight his second month, due to finding a natural crab trap in the kelp beds, and making a net out of a hunk of flotsam-rope. Well, you need at least  3000 calories per day for that, under those conditions, and it could EASILY be 4000+  per day, too. Top swimmers have to eat  TEN thousand calories per day while in training and they aint fat! Do you think that they eat nothing but ice cream? So you CAN learn to eat  10+ lbs of food per day, folks. Only  1/4 of a crab's live weight is edible flesh and the flesh, ready to eat, is just 400 calories per lb.  (google it, you'll see) So, he'd need to eat  8 lbs of crab per day, which means catching  32 lbs of crab, EVERY day. without crab traps!   Now, if you "think" that's feasible, I"ve got a bridge in brooklyn that you need to buy!  

Let-s say that  he  caught  15 lbs of crab per day (very unlikely) . That's 4 lbs of edible flesh,  1600 lousy calories.  So he'd need another  1400 calories, EVERY day, in order to not lose weight. Only a bit over  half of a fish or animals' live weight is edible flesh and fish, ready to eat, is just 600 calories per lb. So he'd have to eat 2.5 lbs of fish per day, along with the crab, which would mean that he had to catch  5 lbs of fish, every day. Now, if you CAN do that, with netting made from a bit of rope, why could you NOT catch a LOT more fish and crabs, with the 4000 sq ft of  2" mesh netting that you can make out of the  20x20 tarp and local vegetation, hmm? So Dave's fos.

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Who cares if he’s claiming he lost weight or not.  I find the title negative toward someone who outlasted all the others, and could’ve gone longer.  It’s no skin off my nose if he lost it, gained it, or had a tummy tuck.

Why do you have to drag him down?

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He survived  11 years in the Idaho wilds (1930's) with just a hunk of tarp, a wool blanket, some hooks and line, a pocket knife, a skillet, a coffeepot, flint and steel and the clothes that he stood in!  He took down the phone wires between the forest fire towers and snared deer with it. He survived  2 more years, but he had a single shot  .22lr rifle and 50 rds of ammo. He said that he killed a deer a month with it,  1 shot each. That doubtless meant  sub-10m brain hits. 

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maybe, but I doubt it. They have no experience at filming themselves or foraging with such limits on gear or small areas in which they must stay. Also, the producers want this show to END within 2 months. They very carefully set it up to almost never get past  3 months. It costs them too much if it does.

On 2/17/2017 at 7:27 AM, ProfCrash said:

There was a participant on a Alaska adventure show that picked berries out of bear scat and ate them. The others thought he was crazy.

he is. those berries barely have any calories when they are fresh. There's nothing whatsoever to gain from already eaten berries, much less the risk of illness from feces, and all the trouble of doing it is a waste of time and calories.

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There's this ABC show Castaways that is basically a super-overproduced bastard child of Alone and Naked And Afraid. Without nudity. Thank god.

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