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2 hours ago, Petunia13 said:

I find it hard to believe Steve is so angry at Kayla he’d avoid his entire family and friends for over a year now. 

Kayla could no wrong in Steve's eyes, so there is no way that he would stay away from her willingly.. 

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2 hours ago, Petunia13 said:

@ boes was right about Ted’s ridiculous logic and hypocrisy. He is tough on immigrants...but is one. Tough on victimless crime but has commited it recently. It’s cracking the whip on Eli and Lana to work on their time off...but Hope spends actual company time having personal discussions, relationship tiffs, going on vendetta quests. 

You mean you DON'T get paid to conduct your entire life in the office (when you bother to show up, of course?)  And, of course, your employer would never mind the major PDA, fights, and endless relationship discussions.   Why on earth would they expect you to do the job for which you were hired?  But, of course, since the Salem Police force only has one case at a time (and this time they don't even have their own case - it's borrowed) it's only a matter of time before EVERY scene in the police office is Hope and Rafe having fights in front of Ted, Lani, Eli, and any other random day player they make sit at one of the desks (except, of course for Lani and Eli declaring their undying love - again in front of said day player).  You'd think they could at least reference crimes in the dialog - even minor ones like property damage or cell phone thefts.  And as far as the hypocrisy - this is Salem - you need to show your hypocrisy card at the border - if you can't produce one, you are denied entry.

I need to snark on the little stuff because this show is really boring lately.  John is crying over Marlena (again) who is in a coma (again) Eric and Brady are trying to act like humans for Marlena's sake (again.)  We ALL know that Marlena will come perilously close to death (again) and be miraculously cured at the last second (again!)  All we're missing is Belle trying to pull the plug while blaming Sami.  And Diana being a cartoon villain is not making this dreck any more believable.  Then, we have Eric getting involved with a woman who is involved with his brother (again.)  

While I hate that they are ret-conning the whole Clair as fire-starter thing, at least this is something we haven't seen lately - A "good" character snapping and doing bad things.  Of course (no spoilers here, just speculation) they'll probably explain it away with a brain tumor.

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The entire town of Salem is such a nepotist's dream.

Parker didn't react to Holly's screams?

So Diana fudged the DNA results, huh?

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3 hours ago, DaphneCat said:

While I hate that they are ret-conning the whole Clair as fire-starter thing, at least this is something we haven't seen lately - A "good" character snapping and doing bad things.  Of course (no spoilers here, just speculation) they'll probably explain it away with a brain tumor.

If Ron C. hadn't have gone to the DID well so many times, that would have been my bet.  He probably thumbed through the DSM for another mental disorder that he could portray in the most shallow, ridiculous way possible. 

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9 hours ago, Petunia13 said:

I find it hard to believe Steve is so angry at Kayla he’d avoid his entire family and friends for over a year now. 

If ever Steve does return, I bet it'll be another Bo situation. Where he originally wrote some letter but then it was found he was a hostage, etc.

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I too have a penicillin allergy.

Do wonder if it would actually remain stable if injected in to the cookies.

Nice of Rex to not tell Sarah that he applied for a job at the hospital. I must be weird because I would never knowingly apply for a job where any of my relatives are without asking them first - if I didn't know where they worked, I wouldn't care.

Wasn't too interested in Will and Sonny.

Leo, your dad probably isn't John Black. Mommy may have faked the test. Do wonder what is in the envelope.

Little Holly is cute.

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On ‎3‎/‎11‎/‎2019 at 10:01 PM, enchantingmonkey said:

A box of macarons.  Hattie would probably think they're donuts, though, and I bet she'd eat them.  ☺️

And did Diana inject every single macaroon with penicillin?  Perhaps a smaller box would have made more sense.

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7 hours ago, WendyCR72 said:

If ever Steve does return, I bet it'll be another Bo situation. Where he originally wrote some letter but then it was found he was a hostage, etc.

And Jack, too, yes? Before his last return when Jenn was with (ick) Daniel. 

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Ok Diana can go now.

That poor child having to listen to Stefan’s weird rambling. 

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Diana is such a OTT villian. I feel like I'm watching a bad soap from the 90's that was cancelled long ago. I'm sure JC is having a ball though. It's too bad she's been written as a cartoon and not a smart "normal" woman. I find it kind of funny that they are doing a paternity tampering storline with a bunch of people in their late 60's. Aren't they a little long in the tooth for this storyline?

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23 minutes ago, ByaNose said:

Diana is such a OTT villian. I feel like I'm watching a bad soap from the 90's that was cancelled long ago. I'm sure JC is having a ball though. It's too bad she's been written as a cartoon and not a smart "normal" woman.

It was really bothering me at first, then during the episode with John at the door announcing all the ways Marlena had died, I decided to stop trying to take things seriously and just enjoy the show as the comedy it's become.

Same with Claire. At first I was disgusted that he'd made Shelle's daughter a sociopath, but now I'm just enjoying the ride, and ORK's performances. Not sure if that what Ron had in mind, but it's making watching more enjoyable.

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13 hours ago, Kitty Redstone said:

[RC] probably thumbed through the DSM for another mental disorder that he could portray in the most shallow, ridiculous way possible. 

LMAO! This is actually probably 100% true.

Stefan's weird "head, heart, heaven" or whatever story was hilarious. I thought TC did a pretty good job selling the emotions after he told it though tbh.

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I think TC has done a good job playing Stefan. He has pretty good chemestry with NB, too. I had heard he was leaving but it looks like it must have been a rumor. Anyway, I look forward to seeing more Stefan & Chloe as a couple. They look great together. That said, I don't think Brady is going to let up anytime soon. I thought it was funny that he went to see Eric for comfort but got slammed by him and Rex. None of them are actually related to each other, right?

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1 hour ago, ByaNose said:

That said, I don't think Brady is going to let up anytime soon. I thought it was funny that he went to see Eric for comfort but got slammed by him and Rex. None of them are actually related to each other, right?

Brady is the son of John and Isabella. Eric is the son of Roman and Marlena. Rex is the son of Roman and Kate (with Marlena as the surrogate). So Rex and Eric are half brothers and Brady and Eric are stepbrothers. Rex and Brady are not related to each other, but are both related to Eric.

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2 hours ago, plurie said:

Brady is the son of John and Isabella. Eric is the son of Roman and Marlena. Rex is the son of Roman and Kate (with Marlena as the surrogate). So Rex and Eric are half brothers and Brady and Eric are stepbrothers. Rex and Brady are not related to each other, but are both related to Eric.

That's awesome. I had to read it three times but now I understand the family tree............I think. LOL!!! That was a great break down. Thanks.

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attention females!!: no one over the age of 8 looks good withe their hair in mickey mouse ears. actually even then it looks stupid. 

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1 minute ago, msrachelj said:

attention females!!: no one over the age of 8 looks good withe their hair in mickey mouse ears. actually even then it looks stupid. 

Do tell.

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2 hours ago, plurie said:

Brady is the son of John and Isabella. Eric is the son of Roman and Marlena. Rex is the son of Roman and Kate (with Marlena as the surrogate). So Rex and Eric are half brothers and Brady and Eric are stepbrothers. Rex and Brady are not related to each other, but are both related to Eric.

And for 5 years, Rex WAS Brady!

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DOOL is past due for a good murder mystery.  I think the show should make it a double whammy with Diana and Leo being the victims. 

It makes no sense that Victor hasn't had one or several of his goons escort Leo off the property, John's son or not.

Ciara had one of the stupidest hairdos I've seen in awhile.  At least she's not buying Claire's story, though.

Y'all are right about Haley's pointing.  It's a bit over the top.

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I wish Show would quit doing all of these flashbacks.

Right.  Because Haley would have signed a card to go along with those doctored macarons.

Have they tested that note for fingerprints?

"Why would somebody sign your name to this note"? What a stupid question.

If Mrs. Caney hates Clair, why would she go after Haley?

So Diana finally got to change clothes, and ditched the Cruella opera gloves.

No, Ciara, Claire is not a good person.

Has Justin ever won a case?

Greg Rikaart is killing it.

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54 minutes ago, Silver Raven said:

Greg Rikaart is killing it.

I agree. I'm really enjoying him.

Kind of a boring ep tbh. Claire's sociopathy is still fun though.

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Every time Diana is on, all I can think about is Carol Burnett’s Mona Desmond character! 🤣🤣🤣 I’d link a picture but I don’t know how. 

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39 minutes ago, Kitty Redstone said:

OMG I forgot all about her Nora Desmond!  Now this is all I'll see, lol.

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Kitty Redstone, you win the interwebbynet!!!

LOL, you done killed me

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Fuck this show and what they are doing to Steve and Kayla

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When Haley starting yelling at JJ and stabbing the air w her hands, Justin was like this: 

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This writing is shitty. Diana and Leo and their plot lines are giving me high key Passions vibes. I liked Passions but this is a less funny version and the treacly loud string music contrasts with the camp 🌽 😖. Also Diana when she gets worked up her voice gets that pitchy thin theatrical shit that sounds old lady-ish or bad black and white movie 1930s “acting”. Leo’s just fucking weird he’s practically begging at this point for a job/friend/attention and when that is curtly rebuffed, he asks to see people’s dicks or bang him instead. Stefan O gives me the creeps like I wonder when Chloe’s away if he looks at her lingerie drawer or he watches her sleep. I do ship her with Rex. They have fantastic light chemistry and it would be a miracle to have a breezy, fluffy, slow beat romance on this soap. 

Eli’s detective skills suck. If Haley was going to kill Marlena she wouldn’t sign a note with the weapon of choice. Also she had access to the site she could have switched or exposed her existing meds to penicillin.  The entire Salem criminal justice system is trash. 

Even John was like “I’m so sad, a coma when this just happened this summer....” I guess I can time when to change a foundation or replace my sneakers by when Marlena has her medical crisis/attacking by stalker. 

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5 hours ago, Silver Raven said:

Has Justin ever won a case?

Once. When Sami was on trial for killing cop that worked for Stefano.  But then again that was because EJ basically begged Stefano to save Sami and release the evidence that would exonerate her.

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Haley probably couldn't afford expensive macarons and be stupid enough to leave a note. The hospital would have security cameras that would show she was nowhere near Marlena's office. Stupid plot line. And stop the pointing, Haley. You are going to hurt someone.

Ciara, Claire is not really all that nice. You said to Tripp that she has jealousy issues - hope he listens.

Poor Brady, sleeping in almost nothing and finding Leo in his room.  He is playing the role, but he's getting tiring.

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As glad as I am to see JJ/Justin scenes I rather they talk about Jack coming BFTD rather than this immigration storyline which is beyond nonsensical for a variety of reasons. Claire is the best part of this storyline because she's acting like a typical soap character and I'm not being forcefed a social issue storyline.

I also don't feel bad for Haley either because as I've said before JJ offered her a reasonable solution weeks ago to set her up with an immigration lawyer to stay in the country legally and she turned him down. I mean really if you don't do anything to try and help yourself I am not going to feel bad for you. 

I wanted JJ to have his own storyline but why do they give him such bad ones.... and why can't he go back to being the fun messy bad boy he used to be *sigh*.

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1 hour ago, CanaryFan98 said:

I wanted JJ to have his own storyline but why do they give him such bad ones.... and why can't he go back to being the fun messy bad boy he used to be *sigh*.

So did I, but IMO he’s being wasted with Haley and I’m not enjoying the pairing, which surprised me as CM typically has such good chemistry with his co-stars - romantic or otherwise. I was shocked that I enjoyed his and Lani’s scenes the other day better than any of his scenes with Haley. I really wish they would put him back in Gabi’s orbit. But I guess given what Gabi did to Abigail that won’t happen anytime soon...

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10 hours ago, CanaryFan98 said:

As glad as I am to see JJ/Justin scenes I rather they talk about Jack coming BFTD rather than this immigration storyline which is beyond nonsensical for a variety of reasons.

Since Jack is doing all this stuff that they seem to feel is out of character and orchestrated by Eve why is no one doing anything other than trying to appeal to what they think is Jack's better nature?   Why isn't Jennifer running editorials about Jack?  Why isn't JJ plastering social media with stories about how Jack can't be trusted/is only interested in his own ends - not the good of Salem/ and his own son wouldn't vote for him because he is not honest?  His family could go a long way to derail this nonsense (and Eve) but they are all acting like they are helpless.

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Hell, that would even be socially relevant since there was a big story in the last big election about a guy who's siblings all did a commercial slamming him and promoting his opponent.  

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1 hour ago, DaphneCat said:

Since Jack is doing all this stuff that they seem to feel is out of character and orchestrated by Eve why is no one doing anything other than trying to appeal to what they think is Jack's better nature?   Why isn't Jennifer running editorials about Jack?  Why isn't JJ plastering social media with stories about how Jack can't be trusted/is only interested in his own ends - not the good of Salem/ and his own son wouldn't vote for him because he is not honest?  His family could go a long way to derail this nonsense (and Eve) but they are all acting like they are helpless.

I would eat this up with a spoon if they had the wit and gumption to really do this kind of thing the right way. But we expect too much from the show, I'm afraid. 

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If I didn't know any better, I would believe Tyler was drunk today. Face flush, words slurring. Oh, boy.

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47 minutes ago, Sidney said:

If I didn't know any better, I would believe Tyler was drunk today. Face flush, words slurring. Oh, boy.

I noticed too but tuned in late and thought Stefan had been drinking. Was Stefan drinking?

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I enjoyed Gabi, Stefan and even Leo today.  Stefan is right about one thing - that pillow is ugly.  I also wondered if it was the same one Gabi used when she had Leo tied up and am glad they addressed that.  In any event, this story is one I'm really enjoying.  DOOL needs to do whatever is necessary to keep Camila Banus happy.  She's the main reason I look forward to watching this show.

Eric and Sarah were ok, too.

Judith Chapman was really chewing the scenery today.  When she turned around to face Nurse Santos when she accused her of poisoning Marlena, the look of her face was pure Nora Desmond (Prairiemakeup's brilliant observation)!

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Today was fun. I did skip Eric/Sarah though so that helped.

Sarah's makeup offended me. Makeup must hate her as much as wardrobe hates Ciara.

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46 minutes ago, rcc said:

I noticed too but tuned in late and thought Stefan had been drinking. Was Stefan drinking?

 He was drinking coffee. You could tell he was breaking character.

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You won't get out of it, Shelley.

Rex couldn't wait to open that door when Chloe said she had some treats for him.

Right, Eric, because praying has worked so well for you.

All of the pillow stuff today is just hilarious.

I wish we could have seen Leo coming on to Ben.

You can't "steal" a woman unless you think the woman is a man's property.

Are people in Salem really supposed to be thinking that nobody can come back from the dead?

"Half black".  OK, that's funny.

Stefan is nobody to make fun of people using multiple names.

I actually see chemistry between Tyler and Camila.  Too bad. I hope Stefan and Gabi can develop it further, despite his characterization.

Sarah wants to bone Eric right there in the chapel.

Y'know, if Ben is standing outside protecting the Mansion, Gabi might want to make her phone calls further away from the front door.

Shut it, Brady.

Did the police bother to come and talk to Nurse Santos?

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2 minutes ago, Sidney said:

 He was drinking coffee. You could tell he was breaking character.

Well that explains why he is no longer on the show. Thanks for responding.

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7 hours ago, peachmangosteen said:

Today was fun. I did skip Eric/Sarah though so that helped.

Sarah's makeup offended me. Makeup must hate her as much as wardrobe hates Ciara.

They say less is more, and I agree.  However her makeup looked fine in other days though. 

Okay, where do I begin about today's show?

Stefan/Gabi: Two things. First, Gabi's clothes are tighter and more exposed as her visit to DiMera Mansion are becoming more frequent lately. Second, Stefan and her are acting more and more like 12 years old fighting over an extra cookie.  Hopefully, Brandon Barash's interpretation will bring some degree of depth and maturity to the dynamic. Regarding Gabi's decorative pillow cover patterns, I do agree with Stefan that less is more (again). By the way, did he really crack her iphone screen or is it still durable?

Vampiric Mama Cooper: I will continuously refuse to acknowledge this repugnant person is the real Diana, no matter how many times those idiotic writers are trying to convince me. They may have a repellent obsession with character demonization or one dimensional writing but I don't. 

Eric/Sarah: It's an eye-opener to me that her presence continues to mellow Eric out.  Their interaction in the chapel was pleasant. She was being a good friend/listener who got him to open up about his past which he might not feel comfortable to bring it up. I also liked Sarah bluntly admitted that part of the bible quote she remembered was from one of the football signs, and Eric's reaction was priceless lol.  I think Greg and Linsey can make this relationship work since both are good actors.

Rex/Chloe: If Rex had Chloe as his friend early on, perhaps he'd be a whole lot less dense and more likeable. 

Brady: Can this guy be any more transparent? His outrage has nothing to do with Rex's well-being.  It's all about getting back at Eric for not helping him to get Chloe away from Stefan.  

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3 hours ago, Sidney said:

If I didn't know any better, I would believe Tyler was drunk today. Face flush, words slurring. Oh, boy.

There was talk a while back that he got kicked off the set for being drunk. Maybe this was filmed around that time?

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16 hours ago, BoldDays said:

So did I, but IMO he’s being wasted with Haley and I’m not enjoying the pairing, which surprised me as CM typically has such good chemistry with his co-stars - romantic or otherwise. I was shocked that I enjoyed his and Lani’s scenes the other day better than any of his scenes with Haley. I really wish they would put him back in Gabi’s orbit. But I guess given what Gabi did to Abigail that won’t happen anytime soon...

Well except the Lani part since I hate her. Yeah there's something really off granted there's like zero build up but I did like their little duet together however Haley had the worst intro ever. She gets a suicide attempt and then its forgotten.

Then this storyline where her backstory changes every 5 seconds. They are trying too hard with this character. They should've just started as friends where he supports her having a terrible relationship with her sister  and her support him dealing with Jack back in his life. 

They should also have delved more into Haley and Melinda's relationship that would've also helped too.

Instead we get this and the show tapes 6 months in advance so they can't really correct this anytime soon if at all. Plus Days will likely be cancelled after they hit the 55 mark anyways so I could see them being together by default in the end.

JJ/Gabi are never going to happen again because of Abigail and the show has no interest in them. Which is fine with me as Gabi will never love him back anyways so what's the point?

This is why I will take JJ trying to seduce Eve from Jack as either revenge for messing with his life like this or to get Eve way from Jack and have him see her true colors. It would be a step up for him story wise.

This show doesn't see CM as leading man material he'll get these stories where he's the nice guy loser and advance a social interest issue for the show but not much else. Maybe a sounding board scene or two with Jennifer/Jack but that's about it. They don't care about JJ the way they do Abby😒

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2 hours ago, Silver Raven said:

You won't get out of it, Shelley.

Rex couldn't wait to open that door when Chloe said she had some treats for him.

Right, Eric, because praying has worked so well for you.

All of the pillow stuff today is just hilarious.

I wish we could have seen Leo coming on to Ben.

You can't "steal" a woman unless you think the woman is a man's property.

Are people in Salem really supposed to be thinking that nobody can come back from the dead?

"Half black".  OK, that's funny.

Stefan is nobody to make fun of people using multiple names.

I actually see chemistry between Tyler and Camila.  Too bad. I hope Stefan and Gabi can develop it further, despite his characterization.

Sarah wants to bone Eric right there in the chapel.

Y'know, if Ben is standing outside protecting the Mansion, Gabi might want to make her phone calls further away from the front door.

Shut it, Brady.

Did the police bother to come and talk to Nurse Santos?

Leo/Ben is tomorrow. I believe this was the last airdate of Tyler's BB comes on the 22nd. So if he was looking drunk well.....

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2 hours ago, YupItsMe said:

There was talk a while back that he got kicked off the set for being drunk. Maybe this was filmed around that time?

Considering BB ends up replacing him like a week later yes this was a precursor to that. I also heard he went to rehab and since he and his wife are Indiana residents it appears she's filed for divorce(there's a petition in one of the papers filed by her for divorce). She's an heiress of Pedigo Racing so I can see how this flew under the radar news wise.

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Gabi would bring the same pillow to Stefan that she used to decorate Leo? Ewwww. Hopefully she had it cleaned first.

How convenient that the person who allegedly poisoned Marlena was Kristen DiMera! All the folks at the ISA, FBI, Interpol, etc. have no leads on her? Hello, hospital security! Check your cameras and you will see Norma Desmond/overly concerned and seemingly always at the hospital Diana Colville on your feeds.  Nurse Shelley should come clean and implicate the real person.

No one can steal someone from another. The relationship is not working on some level and both parties know that. So no, Eric cannot 'steal' Sarah from Rex or from anyone else. Sarah is not Rex's property and she has the free will to make her own choices. There are obviously some unresolved emotional issues with both. A lot of Brady's issues are about control and his immaturity.

Did like Leo's quip about being half-Black.

Chloe had a nice spring-like dress.

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8 hours ago, Sidney said:

 He was drinking coffee. You could tell he was breaking character.

I must have totally missed it. How did he break character??

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1 hour ago, MsTree said:

I must have totally missed it. How did he break character??

I think they mean by being drunk when he's not supposed to be.  So not intentionally breaking character but real person coming through.  I didn't notice additional slurring but I did notice his face seemed redder than usual.

2 hours ago, Frozendiva said:

Gabi would bring the same pillow to Stefan that she used to decorate Leo? Ewwww. Hopefully she had it cleaned first.

Did like Leo's quip about being half-Black.

The writing for these scenes was genuine fun.  I'd love for the show to capture more of that.

8 hours ago, sweetautumn said:

Vampiric Mama Cooper: I will continuously refuse to acknowledge this repugnant person is the real Diana, no matter how many times those idiotic writers are trying to convince me. They may have a repellent obsession with character demonization or one dimensional writing but I don't.

Fans always talk about wanting to mine history to tell stories.  Somehow, soaps think that bringing back a character, usually recast, and basically in name only, is mining history.  It's not.  This is not Diana.  They haven't given any reason for the drastic change in her personality.  If I recall correctly, she left John/Roman.  She wasn't pining over him.  Marlena wasn't a factor in her decision. She was still dead when Diana left town.  Making it seem like it was about Marlena erases Isabella from John's life even though their son is still on the damn show. I know they just did some random fling child but they may as well have done the same thing again if they're going to basically ignore everything about the character or the relationship.  Why not make her Yvette? She was after Diana and before Isabella.  She was a prostitute who Justin brought in to hurt Victor.  I would bet she's far less memorable to most than Diana is?  Probably not enough to care if she were trashed. And given her tough past, perhaps this descent would make more sense.

This goes with Eve as well. I love Kassie.  Blair is one of my favorite soap characters.  I thought she and Jack would have a great dynamic but they don't really have what they could have had if they had only written to history.  Yes, they were married before but they hated each other.  I'd be having a little more fun if the honored that dynamic and had Eve pretend to like Jack but we could see that she was only putting up with him for her schemes.  And it'd be even better with more depth behind her motivation for encouraging him to run for mayor.  It's just so shallow and it doesn't feel like there's another potential payoff down the road if he does become mayor.

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