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  1. LibertarianSlut

    S09.E16: Reunion Part 1

    Sorry, I didn't mean to take things out of context, and I understand and respect your explanation and see what you are saying and think it's valid. If I can rephrase what I was trying to say... The way I read (and went back and re-read) your post and understood it was that Jennifer and Teresa's relationship would likely not last because they bond over shallow things and they are mutually self-centered. They don't "click," if I may be so bold, they just kinda drift...I get that (that's what I'm inferring; not that you said that outright). This post spoke to me when I read it, and it jogged a lot of memories (and, in retrospect, I shouldn't have been so verbose in trying to make one point) but what I wanted to say was that some of my most lasting friendships--they are not deep, but they are long--are with people who have very little in common with me. Not just at first, but people with whom I don't have much in common at all. We don't really share the same values or thought patterns. Your comparison of Teresa and Jennifer reminded me of the way my friends and I may have liked the same club or the same outfits, but we placed different levels of importance on those things, and we didn't have deep conversations. I was thinking that maybe one of the reasons why my friendships worked was because I needed to get a little breathing room from the people from law school (when you go away to law school, your law school class becomes like a combination of middle school frenemies and in-laws who miraculously know all your business) even though I had much, more more in common with the people at school, and I valued those friendships much more, which reminded me of Teresa and Dina a bit. Not that you mentioned Dina, but the post got me thinking about Teresa's friendships ("friendships"?). Even though Teresa and Dina don't have a lot in common and their thought processes are completely different, they seem to adore each other. Dina has said she wants to come back and be Teresa in another life, and Teresa made Dina Audrianna's godmother because she wanted Audrianna to be just like Dina. It's more like a mutual admiration than a friendship maybe. Dina (whom I loathe by the way) is way smarter than Teresa, and maybe one factor in the mysterious loyalty Dina has shown to Teresa (even over fambly!) is because I think Dina let things weigh on her (season one, when she worried herself into tears thinking Lexi was gonna get Lyme Disease at a water park in Cyprus, anyone?) might want to take a break and live in "Teresa world" for awhile. So I just think people can be friends for strange and perverse reasons. The last thing I will say about the women that I know as compared to the way some people characterize Teresa and Jennifer was that, even though my friends may not have been deep thinkers, they cared. They had a loyalty that I hadn't really seen before. They never talked behind each others' backs for instance. They forgave me quickly after we would inevitably fight. This was all alien to me. At the same time, they weren't all that interested in me as a person. They didn't care to find out what made me tick (which is what I pretty much always want to do as soon as I meet someone, or I get bored, and that's my own character flaw). My girls may not have tried to forge a deep bond with me, but somehow we appreciated each other, and I realize it more and more as time goes on. I see that a little in Teresa as in the way she was was with Jaqueline too. Whenever I see Teresa, I usually think she is too dumb and self-centered to have friends (kind of like Kim Z, who doesn't have friends or extended family; she has her nuclear family and her employees), and that she's just surrounded by sycophants. But Teresa has proven me wrong, because she has kept a friendship with Dina and Jacqueline (even though that ended, it was fairly long and genuine). I do think she is like Kim Z in that her "core people" will always be her dad, her brother and her kids (I was going to say Juicy, but then I saw those pics and yikes). That's for a whole other post! So when Teresa's friendship with Jennifer comes up, I start thinking about all kinds of friendships, Teresa's and my own, and how people can form bonds, selfishness, stupidity, and shallowness notwithstanding (que the opening to Arrested Develpment). Y'all...sorrry I have been in such overexplanation mode on this thread this week. Next week I will make an effort to go easy on the posting. Starting to get a little tired of myself in all honesty. I love the discussion, though.
  2. LibertarianSlut

    S09.E16: Reunion Part 1

    While I completely respect your post and understand where you're coming from, I beg to differ from life experience. When I was in law school in Miami and simultaneously working for an upscale "family" (aka divorce) law firm in Coral Gables, my friend from home introduced me to some of her friends at a happy hour, and we had nothing in common (or so I thought). I was much more worried about understanding the holding of my Federal Income Tax reading than anything these "professional nobodies" had to say. Well, after a happy hour of Level Three Painkillers, which Monty's On The Grove was happy to keep refreshing (gotta love Florida), I was able to uneasily raise the topic of local tanning salons in my size four Calvin Klein business suit, which, as we all know, is cut like a a six, and while I was totally insecure that they would reject me for not being a stick and for not wearing the same cute little tank tops and shorts as them, these bitchess just lighted up and were able to discuss with intelligence and knowledge the relative level of professionalism and quality about the tanning salons of Miami, of which there are few, for obvious reason. These "shallow" gals, who had nothing more in common with me than the fact that we were all from out of town and we preferred to tan artificially, despite the South Florida sun, wound up becoming some of my best friends, and over the intervening years, we have managed to attend each others' weddings and hold each others' children. I am more in touch with them today than I am with my former law school peers. All this to say that my basis of friendship with these young women began with tanning salons and who could get into the best club on the weekend, and ended up as something real and lasting. They introduced me to church (which I have never actually attended), but no one I have known prior to these "shallow" "tan" "super-skinny" and "teeth-whitened" people has taken the time to bring me to church (other than a highly prized early law school buddy with whom things didn't work out and we parted ways by second semester). So, yeah, in my experience, a relationship can start on something very shallow/materialistic and continue into something very deep and lasting. Several of mine can and have. I know this list is factual, and not meant to be cheeky Bristish humour (the kind Dorit gets), but this is hilarious. I can't believe how desperate and hungry/thirsty some people are.
  3. LibertarianSlut

    S09.E16: Reunion Part 1

    I know, I know. I knew I was going to catch shit for being team right couch 🙂. I'm surprised there wasn't more blowback. Y'all are being so easy on me. It hasn't fully risen to consciousness yet, but the best explanation I can give right now is that I hate team left couch more. (Seeing as how we are like-minded, I want to make one analogy, but I will abstain. Instead, I'll take this space to say that I hate The Rebooted Jersey Shore and absolutely refuse to watch it, thus I hate Vinny too, but he was a surprisingly adept moderator of the Floribama Shore, which is the only reason on earth I would ever praise him!). I hate Teresa. I fucking hated her since season two, when she attacked Danielle not once, but twice. But I hate a pile-on and I hate hypocrisy more, and right now I think left couch is being more hypocritical. Jackie is the least offensive to me. The other two broads over there can kick rocks. Ironically enough, if Margaret would just turn on Teresa, I would like her a hell of a lot more. I think it's of such poor character for her to go toe-to-toe with Jennifer, but let Teresa slide because you don't want to be ghosted from the show. I noticed that Margaret has cozied up to Jennifer multiple times this season as well, because she clearly didn't want to fight a two-front war against Jen and Danielle, so she picked the lesser of the evils, which I think is weak as fuck, and I'm getting a little mad at her all over again lol. I think I covered my thoughts on Melissa in my first post. I think I'm so mad at her, also, because she won't just come out guns blazing and say, "fuck you Teresa." She comes close. She dances up to it. She teases it, but she never says it, so she's a coward too. If she's doing it to keep family peace, then she shouldn't be on the show. I wrote last night in a different thread that I kinda like Lisa Rinna for her authentic phoniness. That's kind of how I feel about Teresa. I think she is fascinating (still hate her), because I think this is actually the real Teresa we are seeing on our screens, and she is so dumb and so awful and so phony, but I think she is the center of the show (and has been for seven seasons) because the audience can kind of pick up on that. I don't want Teresa off the show just like I don't want Tamra Barney Judge off RHOC; I want to see what happens with them, even if I hate them. Dolores, I could take or leave. I am not enthusiastic about her. And I like Jen also because I think she is real. She's a materialistic, insecure, needy, pompous snob, but I think this is who she is. I have no evidence, but I get the impression that she wouldn't hesitate to turn around on Teresa if she didn't like something Teresa was saying/doing and I respect that. (This is also why I said I would be interested in seeing Caroline back. Just because she is so sanctimonious that I think she'd be hilarious to watch). A lot of it is irony. Hopefully this clears up some of the confusion, even though i am still a little confused as well. I am also liking and laughing at so many posts, even if peeps come out on the complete different side of me on things, as always. And if things change, I will not hesitate to issues as many mea culpas as necessary hahaha.
  4. LibertarianSlut

    S09.E16: Reunion Part 1

    I should have clarified my post better, and I should have used paragraphs better (although I hope not to lose the eleventy billion minus one likes from @Audpaud either). What I should have done is expressed my amazement that Andy didn't respond to Teresa's multiple assertions that this is her show. It's...audacious? Is that the word? I mean, it's an ensemble cast, and even if it's true, I can't believe how blatant she was about it. At the time of watching, I was so shocked that I said to my husband (who is good enough to sit through this with me) "Wait...did she just break the...fifth wall?" I was just shocked that Andy, the shittiest host ever, didn't say anything. (I wish Vinny G from Jersey Shore would host these things. He gets in and gets the job done). The only thing I will give Andy credit for is asking Dolores (without attributing it to "Gilda from Dubuque") "Why don't you just admit you hate her?" I was like, "hello, where has this bitch been for literally the last ten years?!?" I should have put in a separate paragraph that this reunion was fucking epic. I didn't think Andy's failure to respond to Teresa was epic as much as it was shocking. I thought the whole thing was epic because of all the blood that was drawn and all the gloves that were off. I won't believe that Vicki is being demoted until I see it. I take the rumors with a grain of salt. Rumor also had it that LVP wasn't returning for this current season of RHBH. I think Teresa, Nene, Bethenny, LVP, Vicki, Gizelle, and Leann run their respective franchises and I don't think they're going anywhere (for better or for worse). @heatherchandler, I think I accidentally cut off the part of the post of yours that I was quoting. I'd like to blame the new format of the site, but I think I'm just terrible at quoting. Hopefully I was able to make a modicum of sense.
  5. LibertarianSlut

    S09.E16: Reunion Part 1

    Jackie--with her JD from Fordham of all places (no shade, I am actually very impressed) messed up by saying that she had no preconceived notions about the show, after which she admitted that she was a fan enough of Teresa's to wait on line at a bookstore to meet her. I liked Jennifer (and even Gina from OC) owning that they've watched the show before. If Jackie was a fan enough of Teresa's to wait on line to meet her, she clearly had a notion--positive, I'm assuming--about at least one cast member. The fact that this notion occurred prior to joining the show renders it "preconceived." All hail to the great lawyer...I guess until you apply logic to her statements. I noticed that when Teresa repeatedly stated that it was her show and that everyone who went against her was gone (!!!), Andy never took the opportunity to correct her. Fucking amazing start to the reunion. I knew God had a plan when He allowed me to sit through the three-part trite that was the Married to Medicine reunion. I am team right couch--and it took me about half the season to make the switch, but now I am firmly planted there--for many reasons. Probably too many to get into in this post, but I will say: Melissa, I see you over there. The one whose first words uttered on this show were literally: "I tend to be very spoiled. So what?" Now you're gonna rag on Jennifer? To quote Britney Spears, "get back." To quote me, "get back, you make me sick rehabbing your image every year. At one time you were an Evangelist for Jesus, now you don't even know what a confirmation is, you lied about your obvious rhinoplasty (and God knows what else) numerous time to the fans and your boss, Andy, alike. I believe that you own a store about as much as I believe you have sex every other night. Stop playing at being Jennifer Lopez, when you are really Fiona Gallagher from Shameless. Go back to your model home." Margaret, was anything that Jennifer said untrue? You can't, on the one hand, flippantly call someone's brother's future wife a "mail order bride" and then get in your feelings when someone characterizes your mother as "a home wrecker," when that person gained that information from something you proudly spouted on camera and in front of all of the women. Also, put on your big girl pants and go against Teresa. At least Jackie and Melissa are willing to do that, but you're still kissing her ass. Why? Coward. Dolores, I find you boring, and it is simply untrue that Teresa's reading comprehension is fine. Teresa's speaking comprehension doesn't even pass muster. You're wrong. But I did like how she said her family was more important to her than being skinny. True story. Jennifer does not appear smart, but I really appreciated that she came to the reunion loaded for bear. She, unlike Jackie, seems determined to hang on to her spot, and I appreciate the effort she must have put in (I imagine one of the rooms in the mansion having walls made of white board, onto which she could plot what to say, and it worked). She had like three of four words or phrases to which she kept coming back ("taboo" and "stigma" are the only ones that come to mind at the moment), and she kept at her points. She never got distracted. She admitted that the mail order bride comment hit home because it was close to the truth. She took responsibility for a lot of things, like Oklahoma, but no one ever got her off of her talking points (which is what a politician needs to be able to do to win). Call me ridiculous, but I floved her "rainbow" analogy. I think she is just what this cast needs to survive. New blood that is going to be "Jersey" and say, "Andy, if you just saw a great fucking rainbow and someone else said they saw a rainbow, wouldn't you tell them you just saw the greatest fucking rainbow?' I mean, she's not a smart lady, but she is gold for this show IMO. Teresa--I am on her side as of this moment. It's just that everyone else is behaving worse, but they're dressing it up better. What I will say is that she definitely meant what she said when she asked Jackie if Jackie was hungry. Nice try in eleventh hour manipulation, Jen, but Teresa did not mean to ask if Jackie was thirsty. IMO Teresa was going after Jackie's former eating disorder and engaging in clear mean girl middle school tactics when she did so. Am I going to weep over it? Do i care about Jackie and her tummy tuck and her article and her non-stoyline and her kinda nice (but not really nice) home in Tenafly? Not really. I don't care enough about her feelings to feel bad if someone comes after an old eating disorder, but make no mistake, that is what Teresa did, and she did it with premeditation. I would be sorta titillated if Caroline came back.
  6. LibertarianSlut

    S07.E11: Return of Crazy Kristen

    S'all good. Sorry if I went a little Lala in my response when I could have been more...I dunno. No one on this show isn't out of their mind, so I can't think of a good example...
  7. LibertarianSlut

    S09.E02: Eat Your Heart Out

    I thought Lisa's awkward attempt to connect with her daughter over not under-eating (when her own relationship status with food is "it's complicated") was actually funny. Telling Amelia that Teddi gained 200 lbs when I always thought the story was that Teddi used to weigh 200 lbs? Lol. I guess anything over 100 is like six of one, half a dozen of the other to Rinna. I know she's like a horrible person, but I enjoy her authentic phoniness.
  8. LibertarianSlut

    S07.E11: Return of Crazy Kristen

    You wouldn't be wrong. I actually walk around with my mother-in-law's library card, in addition to my own, in order to maximize my library usage, so "Librarian Slut" is a name to which I'll cheerfully respond! I think we are on two completely different tangents here. I posted that I didn't see evidence of Beau having a job, in part due to the fact that he has time to steam Stassi's dress, (in addition to not having a LinkedIn account, I couldn't find his name attached to an agency, he never mentions a job or work, and there are no indications from the show that he works). I gathered, from the totality of the circumstances, that he was under or unemployed, and twice asked other posters for their feedback. I never asserted that any single factor was dispositive of Beau's employment status, and when posters such as @ghoulina and @HunterHunted gave me feedback and insight regarding facts about which I may have not been aware, I acknowledged it and felt that they were helpful. I don't have a LinkedIn profile, and I am gainfully employed. I just thought that someone who was in that line of work would have LinkedIn profile, as his job appears to involve extensive networking. Again, it doesn't mean anything in and of itself, as @HunterHunted pointed out with regard to the Shahs. With all of this in mind, how, in any way, is it "backward" or "1950s" thinking to go off of what the show is giving me in terms of the time commitment that Beau seems to be willing to give to Stassi/the show? And who said that a man doesn't work if he presses a woman's clothes?? With all due, I never said that, and I'm not enthusiastic about someone taking liberties with my words. Maybe someone else said that, but, to quote Johnny Depp playing George Jung, quoting Bob Dylan in the movie Blow, "it ain't me, babe." 🙂 If Beau had walked into Stassi's apartment with a slain deer hanging over his shoulder and said, "woman, fire up the barbecue, because I just caught you a mean dinner," I would have just as quickly pointed to the fact that the man seems to have an abundance of spare time, which is evidence, to me, that he's not working full-time. I never got into judging the substance of Beau's activities, so that is where I feel like we have dovetailed. Anyone who knows me from the Real Housewives of New Jersey threads can attest to the fact that there is one husband who alleges that he works "fifteen hour days," and I have pointed out repeatedly that for all the time he has to sit around on various couches and beds while watching his wife pack for trips and bitching about his sister (all during the day), that this is not a man who works 15 hour days. On the day I say that Beau has emasculated himself for steaming Stassi's dresses, as that is solely work for the womenfolk, I hope someone calls me out on being backwards. Until then, I am going to assume that anyone who attributes backward motives to me for claiming a man seems to have a lot of spare time is probably factually incorrect or confused. By the by, my husband does 100% of the ironing in our household. And he swears he's a man. I tend to believe him.
  9. LibertarianSlut

    S09.E11 The Hobo Games

    I'm just whistling in the dark here, but I think a fundamental difference between the Fiona/Liam incident and now, from Lip's perspective, if that it took Fiona to be totally broken before Lip could forgive her. It only occurred to Lip to forgive Fiona when he had to go pick her up in Sheboygan. Now I think some of Lip's acute frustration is that he is waiting for Fiona to break, to give in, so that he can forgive her, so that he can take care of her the way that he took care of,or wanted to take care of Xan, Yuens, Brad, the sponsee, Siera's kid, Hymie, etc. I think that if Fiona were to break down now, though, she might have a full breakdown, like voluntary psychiatric 72 hour hold, Ian-style breakdown. Probably because no one needs her anymore. None of the kids need her, Patsy's doesn't need her, hell, the old woman at the Laundromat doesn't need her, and she has been carrying the burden for so long and she had to put her feelings on ice for so long that if she thaws them now, who knows what will happen? it's kind of like when you get through finals and suddenly your whole body falls apart. Fiona doesn't know what to do with herself anymore. I also think there is a fundamental difference between Fiona and Lip, in that Lip is totally sensitive to other people's needs, while Fiona is more of the old school, grin and bear it type. They complemented each other much better before when they needed each other. I just realized that I hope Fiona's ending is to go to Costa Rica with Jimmy/Steve/Jack and they ride off into the sunset. The end.
  10. LibertarianSlut

    S09.E11 The Hobo Games

    Other than stealing that woman's Oxy, I don't think Fiona did anything wrong this episode. She did not seem drunk to me when she let the DCFS worker into the house, and, for all she knows, Lip could lose Xan if Fiona were to turn away the social worker for an unannounced visit. Gallaghers never seem to know what to do with a social worker. It's a huge intrusion that they're not used to. The big problem that I saw was with the home--the gaping hole in the floor that a child or an adult could fall through--but that is failure to communicate between Lip and Deb, not Fiona. And Fiona's other sin? Drinking with a guy? Lip, please. I thought Fiona knew he was sober, and I still didn't really fault her for giving him some booze, as it is his choice, but for Lip to demand that Fiona--the owner--leave the house, because she gave a tiny bit of booze (there couldn't have been more than three ounces in that bottle), to Lip's sponsee, which led him to make a telephone call to get heroin?!? Lip, you can miss me with that shit, and while we're on the topic, why don't you move your happy ass out? You're contributing; Fiona's contributing. Her name's on the deed, though, so pack your shit and inform the bunk bed deliverers to make their dropoff elsewhere. Every single time I am ready to let Lip back in and say he's not so bad, he does something so wildly dumb (and, dare I say, entitled) that I write him off. I do think the actor that plays Lip is immensely talented, second possibly only to Frank, so I really appreciated the emotion he was able to show while simultaneously "keeping it together." This is the second best acting I've seen from Lip. The best was when he was at the hearing to get readmitted to college. Much more advanced than Fiona and her fake cry cum wild grin, never accompanied by tears. I thought the Hobo Loco story ended in a pretty funny way, but I feel bad about Ingrid and her reduction and Randy having to raise two children into his 70s. I'm not really sure what the point of them was if they are just going to drive off into the sunset. I was so glad Carl got to work the line, and apparently made some buddies in the process. He's gonna need them when the inevitable break-up with Kelly occurs. Three more episodes left. I feel like I'm running a marathon. Sunday's epi felt like a penultimate to me, being better than usual and sewing up some of the storylines, so I was looking forward to a finale next week, but such is life I guess...
  11. LibertarianSlut

    S07.E11: Return of Crazy Kristen

    Thank you @biakbiak and @Marley for the quick Beau info. I don't follow them (or anyone) on social media, and I don't listen to Stassi's podcast. Forgive me, and I'm not trying to go down the rabbit hole with this, but is there any evidence that Beau is actually out there working 40 or more hours a week? I did my own little Internet search, and the Internet said that Beau doesn't have a LinkedIn profile, which I find strange, and one story reported that it is difficult to find info on him. He is not listed on his own agency's website (that I could find). I would think someone in that industry would be easily accessible and present on the Internet for their career, not as Stassi's boyfriend, which is all that seems to pop up. I get the impression--and someone feel free to shoot me down if I'm wrong--that Beau works on "projects" (no shade; I just get the feeling he's a 1099 employee), and I get the further impression that he is between projects right now, and it wouldn't surprise me if he was between projects this whole season. I only know what I see, and it seems Beau is everywhere and readily available for filming day and night. Nothing on the show leads me to believe he waking up at 5:15 every day to fight LA traffic or making other career sacrifices. I could be wrong. (This whole train of thought could also be colored by my cousins, two of whom got B.A.'s and sort of ran around LA doing "important-sounding things" when they were really glorified assistants doing very close to nothing). I am just that cynical person who, if a guy tells me he's "in finance," I take that to mean he pays his cable bill online, and "sports marketing" means he hands out Gatorade to minor league baseball players until I see evidence pointing otherwise. So I'm not completely ready to give up the ghost when I hear "commercial casting," but I'd like to be wrong. I hope this is a guy who is making his own money, living in his own place (with no help from mom and dad), who really, truly is there for the right reasons. I mean, it would be nice to see that once on this show in seven seasons...
  12. LibertarianSlut

    S07.E11: Return of Crazy Kristen

    I feel so torn because I agree with about 50% of what everyone is saying, and I see about 50% completely differently. What I agree about with others: it was nice to invite James, and he was being funny and pretty cool from what we saw. Lala, with the robe, was, I think making a power move, like a Hugh Hefner things "I'm so fabulous that I don't even need to get dressed to go out (sort of like I don't need to drink to go wine tasting), and I didn't hate it, probably because it was so camp and out there and what the fuck. Speaking of what the fuck, what the fuck were all of the women wearing? Katie's outfit, with the 90s sneakers and silk top, was atrocious. Scheana's romper would have bee ok without the thigh-high boots, Ariana looked like she was about to go riding in acid washed, ripped jeans, Brittany was dressed like a street walker that worked on a farm, Kristen's romper wasn't doing it for me (though the girl has some stems), so I guess Stassi's outfit won by default, although I don't know why such a large-bosomed woman wears an off-the-shoulder shirt with otherwise warm clothes. Is that a thing now? I thought it was funny that Scheana was able to stay cool and take Lala's advice for exactly two seconds, and then she burst into tears because Katie didn't want to talk about braiding her hair! At least the women were behaving (for the most part). Yeah, Kristen was freaking out, but there is something unresolved about her and James for which she needs therapy. It's not like she just flipped out apropos of nothing. I think she has control issues.. She is about 10 years too old to fly off the handle when she hears someone's name, or about some specific situation, but I've been in her shoes when I was younger. They did the absolute right thing: just let her go off into the wild blue yonder. There is no use in dealing with crazy at that point. I don't think Carter is the problem. I don't think he was gaslighting Kristen with those texts. I think he was just telling her James was there so that she didn't find out about it later and think Carter was keeping things. If Carter is freeloading off of Kristen, that is a different discussion, but I don't think he's abusing her. I think some of these women (Stassi, Katie) just want to take up a cause, Carter be thy name du jour. Speaking of freeloading, can someone who may be more socially media savvy than I am tell me what Beau actually does? Because I don't think he has a job. I think his job is to be Stassi's Boyfriend, and that was why he had no problem steaming her outfit a few episodes back. I was never enamored by him--I still think she can do a lot better--but when I found out he was 38 years old and seemed to have nothing better to do than to hitch his wagon to Stassi's kinda famous 30 year old star, I realized I am never going to see him in a good light. The guys' stay-cation caused all kinds of problems for me. If Peter wants to get laid, I am positive there are women sliding into his DM's all day, every day, not to mention Tinder. If he thinks he needs to, for some reason, meet a woman at a bar, he can just go to a bar, ask to buy a young lady a drink, happen to mention that he's on a TV show, and the panties will drop with gravity. Peter--as unattractive as I personally may find him to be--can get laid in his sleep. This whole thing was a set-up, and I guess if worked, because this was a really good freaking episode. I saw the Beau/Jax thing differently. I didn't really understand why Beau was there, but ok. But as soon as Jax starting freaking out (and I think Jax and Peter were coked up out of their minds on this episode, and Katie and Kristen had nibbled on several edibles in addition to alcohol), I saw Beau go rigid and I saw a thought bubble go up over his head that said, "please don't call the girls and let them ruin our time." I think Jax, being two years old, didn't have the judgment to call a Lyft and wait in the lobby like a responsible reformed cheater, so he recruited Beau to get him out of what Jax saw as a mess, but I think Beau wanted nothing to do with the situation and he just wanted to hang out. I think the coed hanging out is irresponsible and tasteless in the way they did it. No one needed to go up to a hotel room. No one needed to wait until the wives/girlfriends were out of town. If Peter desperately needed some ass, why couldn't he enlist the help of the guys when everyone was there? It seemed so shady and seedy the way they arranged it. Between Peter being all slimy in his Miami Vice shoes, Jax acting like Scarface, Beau being stiff as a board, Carter being evasive to Katie (and I kinda saw him talking to a woman on-on-one before they called him onto the balcony), Schwartz being shit-faced and also having a penchant for cheating, the only ones who didn't seem like twits to me were Sandoval (probably because he exudes exactly zero sexual energy to me) and James (probably because he was on his best behavior, (although anyone else catch him vaping really quickly?), and normally those are my two least favorite guys. Anyone know where Adam was? I bet he could have gotten there in seven minutes or less. These group dynamics are so fucked up. Everyone is worried about everyone else for the wrong reasons. Kristen is mad at Carter because of James. Katie seems slightly ticked at Schwartz because of how it looks on camera that he's hanging out with other girls, not because he might actually cheat on her again, Stassi and Brittany threatening the women who are with their men, but not asking their men to leave what is in all likelihood inappropriate circumstances...oy yoy yoy. James's brother for the win?
  13. LibertarianSlut

    S09.E15: Hotheads and Hookahs

    I thought that was a very weak finale, but... Joe Gorga was kind of the culprit here. He kept running game between Joe B and Marty until tihings came to a head. Not everyone has to be best friends. I guess Joe Gorga just needs the money from this franchise and knows which side his bread is buttered when he keeps on insisting (and insisting) that the two guys make it right at Jennifer's anniversary party (weirdo). In my world, you don't push a guy into a pool. It's assault. His phone and watch got ruined. It's bullshit. It's uber disrespectful to the hosts. Marge is a fucking con woman if she is going to complain about the way Jen treated her friend in Oklahoma if this is how she acts at Jennifer's anniversary. I don't think Marge is the devil--I loved her last year--but I do think it is the Marge Way or the Highway, and how awkward is it to ask your ex-stepson to sit down to a meal with the carpentener for whom he left your father when stated purpose of said meal is to ask ex-stepson to have better relations with your ex? You follow? Me neither. Jackie? Jackie who? Let me take a wild guess and say that she is going to put all of her cards out on the table at the reunion in order to get another bite at the apple. Girl friend has had less screen time than Danielle, and I found myself wondering on multiple occacssions last night...who is this, again? I love how Melisss and Joe are having the "values" conversation vis a vis Antonia when Antonia is 13 years old...isn't this a convo you should have had when Antonia was 13 weeks in the womb? Jennifer's kids always seem like they are the problem, but I watched really closely last night, and I realized that at least three of her kids are fine. There are like two brats, Olivia being the main one. The rest of them seem no worse or actually better than Melissa's kids, and I think the fact that there are just so many of them makes us think, as viewers, "they are monsters," when most of them seem to be ok. Unkempt, but ok (and asking why they are unkempt when their parents apparently have more money than God is a different question for a different day). But I don't think they are such horrible kids as much as I think that Jen uses the fact that Dr Evil isn't around much as an excuse not to discipline them, which makes no sense to me. I posted last week that I think that Danielle is very damaged, but they handed her what she was looking for on a silver platter by pushing Marty into the pool. Danielle wasn't even around. I theoretically agree with Teresa (yes, I did just bless myself with Holy Water) as far as bringing Danielle around. I know that if I was attending an event and I didn't want to acknowledge someone, I would have sent out an email or a group text describing what my parameters were (and I may well even include the offensive person in the email/text), and my boundaries are not to be breached. But all the bitches circling the wagons on Teresa at the party and not before, to voice their concerns about Danielle is too much. "Take a stroll," as my buddy Jeff from Princesses: Long Island would say. Also, in season one, Teresa got very angry with Danielle when Danielle criticized Teresa's husband for calling the dance instructor "gay." It was not just a Caroline/Dina whispering on the down low thing. Whether Teresa would have gotten that wound up at Danielle for telling Joe "there'll be no more talk of that," and "I'm not your wife," is anybody's guess, but I'm gonna stop Teresa with the revisionist history that she and Danielle only had a a falling out because of big, bad Caroline. They're all thirsty and grasping for this pay check and it shows.
  14. LibertarianSlut

    S09.E01: Lucy Lucy Apple Juicy

    I think it is ok to defend someone if their actions are righteous at the time, so I think defending Dorit two seasons ago is fine, because things were a lot different back then when Erica was a shark out for Dorit's blood... I thought Dorit was ok on her first season too, just because Erica was worse at times. Now I have a very low opinion of her. Telling LVP at the restaurant that she didn't read all of the fine terms of the contract...get the fuck outta here with that shit. You knew, or should have known, what to do with this "biting, dangerous" dog when you decided it was inconvenient to keep it. You made your bed, now lie in it. This may be an unpopular opinion, but I am uncomfortable with the amount of attention Teddy got this first episode. I liked Teddi as the underdog, NOT as someone who is a force to be reckoned with, someone who gets more screen time than Lisa R, Erica, and Denise (probably combined). She is just not that interesting by a long shot. Does she even live in BH? A three year old child should know to use the restroom if it's available to him. I thought urinating in the bushes was terrible in season two when I hated Kyle and thought Brandi was a breath of fresh air, and I hate it now. Teach your kids some manners, people, please! (Same with Kyle's daughter contemplating whether she should take it to Instagram that Ken was sleeping at a party. Really?) I was glad that they allowed Denise Richards to come on as "Denise Richards," as in, "duh, we all know her", as opposed to billing her as "Kyle's friend" or something. While I do not think she has aged well at all (she and Erica are really both 47? Holy Moses. Denise looks more like Goldie Hawn's contemporary than Erica's, but I digress), she seems alright so far. I do not think she has had a major career, and I know her best from Wild Things, which is not a ringing endorsement. I did think Teddi came off as incredibly disingenuous and extra when she said "winning" and then immediately over-apologized to the unfazed Denise as if she had called Denise's mom a cankerous whore. It's not a big deal. Denise's ex put a word into the cultural lexicon, and Teddi said it. Big deal. Everything has to be such a big deal on this show. Dorit DID NOT look good in that bathing suit. When she was sitting by the pool, there was just too much unflattering stuff going on. She is kind of "skinny fat," and she even admitted that her trainer accused her of that two seasons ago, so I'm not pulling it outta nowhere. I can't believe Harry Hamlin and Aaron (Denise's current husband) were both married to Nicolette Sheridan before. Small world. Too small. Anyway, I wanted to take an opportunity to comment on some of the stuff I haven't seem commented on before (and please excuse me if I am repeating shit; I am only on page 3. Everyone is so prolific and I love it). I dunno, this will probably cause some people not to like my post, but I think Kyle's heart is in a better place than LVP's, so I am going to default to her side in the absence of evidence to the contrary. I think Kyle is not very bright and is very sheltered, but she does things for the right reasons most of the time. I do believe that Erica was right, and that LVP is a sniper from the side, and--to use a word out of Lisa's country of origin--if you are absolutely "gutted" about your brother's suicide, then...maybe take some time off of your two reality shows and, um, grieve privately. Having lost a brother doesn't give you a complete pass. If Lisa took a hiatus from filming and she just stared blankly into the swimming pool, smoking Kools and drinking Maker's Mark from a highball glass day in and day out, I would care more. But if the woman is well enough to engage in petty shit like chastising her friend for not being at her restaurant/bar opening when said friend had gotten off of a plane at 4 am, I am going to kindly and with the greatest respect ask her to go jump in a lake. Anyone else think anything shady is going on in the House of Erica? Suddenly she can film at the Pasadena estate, and there are clips of Tom kissing her ass? Methinks Tom may have found himself a new 27 year old, and he told Erica what Erica told Teddi at last season's reunion: buck up or get out (or something to that nature)? We'll see. But it couldn't have happened to a more down to to earth person...
  15. LibertarianSlut

    S09.E10: Los Diablos!

    @Dee, I think Kev, especially, needs to take responsibility for Dominique because I think that all children should have a male and female role model, based on the empirical evidence that children turn out best this way. Kev is the actual father. There is no evidence from the show that Dominique was going to have a male role model, so I think Kev should have stepped up to fill that role. I have said in a past post that I don't think the parents and grandparents should disclose to the kids what their actual relationship is, because it would be too weird, but if Kev wants to throw around a ball or have a man-to-man chat, he has a son with whom to do that, even if he's only "Uncle Kev" to the son or something. I think Vee has a responsibility, because she put a lot of pressure on her mom to get impregnated in the first place. Her mom would never have had the baby if it wasn't for Vee. I don't get the impression that Vee's mom is especially rich, so I am saying that Vee can kick in some money for daycare tuition or a bicycle for the kid that she had a great hand in bringing into this world before she gives charity to additional children. I just think it's such a character flaw that Kev was going to step up and take care of someone's kid whom he didn't even know was his when his wife showed up, and Kev took this big stand against Vee that he was going to take care of "his" kid, regardless of what Vee thought, without even ensuring it was his kid. He was even talking about putting his wife in an apartment. I thought that was a total betrayal of Vee. Now he has a kid that he does know is his, and he pays the kid dust. It's not fair to my mind. That's just how I view it. I think I hate Kev pretty much the most, because he went from being this cool season 2 guy who was nonjudgmental who could give Lip advice on Mandy and move it along, and now he is just a cartoon character. I hate Vee for enabling him. I was never more happy than the season when she left him because he put her on the back burner because he couldn't let a freaking baby cry in a crib for a few moments. Now that they're back together, I guess I hate them together, so I criticize them a lot. I thought Vee was so much better off without him. If Vee's mom comes on the show and says that she wants Kev and Vee to have nothing to do with Dominique, I would revise my opinion, but I haven't seen it yet.
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