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  1. Lu seems to be more insufferable and smug than she's ever been before: more than "address me as Mrs. DeLesseps in front of the driver", more than "How dare Carol schtupp the help", and even more than those hilariously cringe-inducing attempts at charity work in the first couple of seasons. Or maybe she's the same level, but not balanced out with any humor. She can be funny (intentional or not), and it just isn't coming thru this season yet. And I'm also thinking she doesn't want unpredictable Ramona or drunk Dorinda coming around her for fear that either one of them will bring up the real nature of Lu's kids' lawsuit against her. I didn't really care if the blondes took food to Dorinda; Barbara said it was fine and she said last week she over-ordered food for the party. I also don't really care if Bethenny is out dating a gaggle of men after Dennis' death, but wearing that ring and calling attention to it just smacks of Gretchen wearing Jeff's ring for attention in the limo to wedding dress shop with Tamra. NO ONE EVER should aspire to be Gretchen. It was shocking that Sonja was in a real, legit magazine. Anyone see it? Was she just a model for that guy's handbag line, or was it for something else?
  2. I may be remembering this entirely inaccurately, but didn't one of LVP's long time female friends marry Ken's son (not Max--an older son from a previous relationship)? I think we saw them all visiting together on an European vacation several seasons back. LVP's friend is about her age, and Ken's not-Max son is much younger, IIRC.
  3. I was as shocked to learn Camille was only 50 as I was learning PK was only 50 last year. I would have believed she was 50 in S1, so it isn't the divorce/cancer/abusive ex that has aged her. Maybe living with Kelsey or being Jesus did it. (I still cannot stand the woman, but she's right about Dorit.) As for all this "LVP made me do it" bullshit....JFC, watch the show you are on so you know the players and their games. If Teddi is that guillable, then someone get me her phone number and I'll call her to tell her she needs to pay off an IRS debt with iTunes giftcards ASAP. So LVP drops out sometime shortly after Denise's wedding, right? If they all do stop talking about her, what the hell are they going to talk about? Drop LLAJ/LVP out of the story, and all we have is a handful of photoshoots and an infomercial for The Agency. Oh, and Dirty Aaron's dick size. (I think he's a scammer, but he did have the best line of the night when Denise went to get the other women to come back in to celebrate Camille's bd: "I think I'll go hide" or similar.)
  4. I've had enough of Barbara's talking heads and nude lipsticks. And if they want to add someone in the Hamptons who goes to quaint small grocery shops to buy stuff for parties, have one of the cast make friends with Ina & Jeffrey. I am enjoying that this season started earlier in the year, with all the Hamptons houses getting featured. Feels like a real throw-back to the early seasons.
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    S09.E05: The Proof Hurts

    This is, hands down, the most infuriating franchise on Bravo. It's bad enough when the cameras don't catch (or so we're led to believe) important exchanges, but now they're just flat-out ignoring salient details. Teddi's brother--the one who works at TomTom--is dating Hannah, the trainer at VPD. I'm not saying that Hannah & Hud filled Teddi in on the whole Lucy situation, but I'm saying it is plausible that she heard something from them prior to either one of the Johns or LVP. I have no clue, but for the entire cast to act like these people & connections don't exist is maddening. (For that matter, we should have seen Dorit be accosted by that woman at the resort as well.) I am certainly no Bethenny fan, but I so, so wish that LVP had handled this dumbass dog story like B handled Sonja's Tipsy Girl cheater brand: LVP should have sat Dorit & PK down in one of her swanky establishments, calmly and methodically laid out how dumping a VPD rescue dog was in violation of their contract and stood as a black mark against her rescue charity's reputation, made them cry for being so stupidly selfish, then banished them and stopped them from filming on trips, relegating Dorit to evergreen scenes of vag rejuv. Alas, that was not to be. And, as a side note, I listen to Ben & Ronny too much because when I saw that stuffed buffalo head on the wall of the restaurant where The Wigs Three had lunch, I instinctively said "Puppy!" in MKE's voice. Lol.
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    All Episodes Talk: Crime And Punishment

    Devil's Bathtub was a repeat and was horribly reported. If you go back to page 67 of this thread, @Cupcake04 gives some excellent reporting on the story, including many things that Dateline left out, that help make more sense of the story. Regarding the Vanishing of Kelsey episode...clearly the boyfriend and his other girlfriend are guilty, but the plans were just so stupid. If someone you don't know shows up on your doorstep, claims to be a neighbor, and hands you your favorite Starbucks drink, wouldn't you get suspicious? No wonder Kelsey didn't actually drink it (nevermind if it wasn't actually poisoned...I kinda think it was tainted but the gf didn't want to admit it to the cops).
  7. Guac-a-mola, and she pondered whether to serve it or "saltza". I can't help but love that this show is back, even if this season is starting on a downer (death, alcoholism, tragic window treatments) note.
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    S09.E04: Bahama Drama

    I'm working on a theory that it's one of the OC bitches behind the scenes manipulating this dumb Dorit dog story. By comparison, the last OC season now looks positively chock full of riviting, edge-of-your-seat action. LOL! The baby flamingos were cute though.
  9. If you are wondering when things happened IRL in a clear timeline (and how things jibe up between VPR and BH), this person on Reddit put together a very comprehensive timeline. It's chock full of spoilers, but that's what this thread is for: https://www.reddit.com/r/BravoRealHousewives/comments/afcodu/i_created_a_detailed_timeline_for_season_9_of/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb&_branch_match_id=624371975635763522
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    S09.E02: Eat Your Heart Out

    Erika's t-shirt dresses always remind me of oversized t-shirts that I'd sleep in as a nightgown when I was a kid. Except, then, they were of a decent length and I didn't wear four inch heels. But, I will always have a sliver of respect for her actually eating desserts. Dorit's fake curly hair on one side of her head is so bad 80s and it looks like it is not going away anytime soon. Kyle's eye thing is definitely a Botox side effect or someone hit a nerve when injecting filler. For what it's worth, LisaR said on WWHL that she didn't get a new boob job and hers are just perkier this season because of some new Victoria's Secret bra. I find that highly implausible, just because I don't see her shopping as down market as VS, unless she actually does go to the mall a la Celeste Talbert. Someone on Reddit posted a really detailed timeline of events/shooting days/etc that is VERY spoilery, so I won't link it here but will over in the spoilers for season 9 thread in this sub. I just wanted to mention it here, because there's been a discussion of the timeline of Lisa's brother's death, the opening of TomTom, and the Bahamas trip.
  11. The blow out with Ken/Lisa/Kyle that opened the episode was followed by the "Two Months Earlier" screen and then a dive into the action starting this season. It's like what they've done with the past 2 seasons of Southern Charm: tease the big throw-down of the season, then rewind to the start of filming. If this dog story is all that we're getting this season, a la pantygate & lategate, it is going to be painful to watch. So glad NYC is coming back in less than a month. And if that dog really did attack PK, that dog is a hero. Or maybe she was secretly working for all the loan sharks PK owes money to?
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    S06.E16: Au Revoir!

    Since this was the last regular episode, does anyone remember if the scene where the crew was flustered by a guest request to store breast milk in the galley ever was shown? I remember it from the season teaser, but other than the Master Pierson episodes (and those kids were clearly on regular food), I don't recall anyone with tiny kids being guests.
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    I Am the Night

    The writing is still pretty bad for the second episode. In the car ride to the lunch, Connie Nielsen's character just gives an info dump on George...musical genius, skilled doctor, art guy...it was like she was just reading off his Wikipedia page. There was a similar clunkiness to Dale Dickey's character (and she's a goddamned national treasure and should have had better writing to work with) describing her trip to the convent to give up her baby. The scripts are a whole lot of "tell, not show", which just gets basic storytelling assbackwards. On a nitpicky level, Chapstick was invented far before 1965 and Pat/Fauna should have had some. Does anyone know where that lunch took place/was filmed? It looked like, in the circular drive up, like a cemetery. Then it looked like a country club dining room attached to an art museum. Why someone would lunch at a private club/gallery/mausoleum with a young girl they just met is beyond me.
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    I Am the Night

    I liked it well enough to keep it on the record list for the second episode. I didn't find it to be slow, but more clunky. For example the scene where Pat/Fauna finds out her origin story from her mother: it was such an info dump it took me out of the scene, thinking, "what is up with this lecture-style exposition?", which a better crafted script should avoid. I like Chris Pine well enough, but I'm kinda over the hackneyed character of the substance-abusing reporter haunted by demons of war and other sundry tragedies. It was damn near a cliche with Jake Barnes, so 90+ years on, it's super unoriginal. However, I do love a good period piece set in LA and based on the MFM interview with Jefferson Mays, they filmed in the real Hodel house and I want to get my eyes on the inside of that place.
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    S06.E14: All That Glitters Isn't Gold

    Tyler, with his "Fresh tracks in the brand new peanut butter....sick!" to "Rhylee doesn't want me to tell anybody but, uh, we banged last night. It's pretty special to me." is the living embodiment of Liz Lemon's doofus boyfriend, Dennis Duffy, but somehow more simple-minded. I also felt bad for Josiah. It was uncomfortable when Bruno was the semi-naked platter for sushi, but he was far more comfortable showing off his body. Josiah's discomfort was palpable.