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    Empire in the Media: Read It In Billboard

    I think the problem there is that every time JS goes into court and drags up the whole ugly episode, he, by association implicates the show, even if he isn't on it. They can pay him not to be back on the show, but they probably can't pay him to not go into court and insist that he is somehow the victim here, or trying to indict the Chicago police, or whatever else. It might be a different story if he just took a plea deal, that way the story dies down and goes away....but if he wants to fight it becomes a story every time he is in court. Overall, I think that while ratings play a role and are a factor, I think the calculations are much more complex than that. I think the show would do well to go with your plan. I'm just not sure it will be enough, particularly if cast members attempt to publicly defend him.
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    Empire in the Media: Read It In Billboard

    Just because something is labelled as a particular type.of show means that it's the one way it can be perceived, and considering the issues on the show I would call it a dramedy for sure. I guess, as I said, every show is unique in it's own special way if one we're really to drill down. It will be interesting to see if empire is renewed or not. Ratings are nice, and the analytics are great. But ratings don't bring networks money, advertising revenue does. Generally ratings give a company a good idea of where their money is best spent because it tells them that a number of people who have think positively about a show will see their advertisements. However, companies with the money to advertise on network television normally have a brand reputation and brand image to worry about. For them, the calculus is whether it's worth it to support a show that is associated with a lead who did something like this? Is it worth the potential loss of brand reputation to associate your company with a show that had a lead who faked a hate crime and then lied about it on national TV and now wants to drag it out and make it ugly? Particularly when the ratings for that show aren't particularly at jauggernaut status anymore? Since network television depends so much.on advertiser dollars, ratings are a factor, but they cannot be the only factor. Part of the reason, I imagine that Roseanne was pulled from the reboot and last Man standing was cancelled despite it's popularity. So, maybe advertisers decide that their brand image won't be tarnished with continued support. I can't say, but given the general revile of JSs actions, it seems unlikely that advertisers would want to be associated with the show, particularly since it will be brought up that JS was a lead actor in the show at every reporting on every court appearance.
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    Empire in the Media: Read It In Billboard

    I think of insecure as a dramady. But I rarely think any show is pure drama. Powers cast is primarily black, as I understand it. Airing on network TV is even more of death knell for empire bc while the ratings matter, the network relies on advertising dollars. Normally advertising dollars follow ratings, but with a show with a massive scandal? That may not be something advertisers want to give their money to. Ultimately, IMO, every show is peerless in one way or another.
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    S02.E06: Your Card Has Been Declined

    It's Ramadan all the time!
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    Empire in the Media: Read It In Billboard

    Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. But sticking around and being basically forced off the air isn't really a win to me, for any show. This is part of the reason why so many shows now almost come with an end date built in. People still love Seinfeld, in part, because it left before the lights came on at the club. The show made a graceful exit. I love that the show features an all AA cast, but I watch television to be entertained, not make a political statement. And shows like Insecure, Atlanta, Power, and Underground feature nearly all black casts. There is more to the calculus than just looking at raw numbers. The Roseanne reboot was hugely popular, maybe somewhere near jauggernaut status when Roseanne showed her ass online and was kicked off the show. There was a lot of backlash, and ostensibly the show would have enjoyed higher ratings than it currently does. And bear in mind, as bad as it was, what she did was not criminal or a situation that needed to be dragged out in the courts. Last Man Standing was cancelled from ABC and that show was pretty popular when it was cancelled. But, it wasn't a jauggernaut or a water cooler show and it had been on for a while, so that likely played into the decision to cancel it. Even though the show was fairly popular.
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    The Inventor: Out for Blood in Silicon Valley

    I vaguely remember in some telling of the story that carreryou explained that he kinda stumbled onto the story. I can't remember but there was something
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    Empire in the Media: Read It In Billboard

    I don't think it's a zero sum game. Watercooler shows can survive scandal as big as this because they are jauggernauts. But when you're not a jauggernaut and ratings are slipping AND you have a huge scandal AND there are tons and tons of competing content, it's just going to be so much harder. I can't think of a recent show in the same position that faced such a situation. The only recent one that might be kinda comprable is the Roseanne reboot, but that show was like brand new, so even as a reboot I don't think the situations are comprable. Does the show have a lot of life left? I don't know, it seems like a pretty tenuous position. Maybe the kerfuffle dies down and they are able to interject a new character or bring in a new actor (?). And that might even work if jussie smollett were to go quietly into that good night, but all signs point to him wanting to drag everything out. I feel fairly certain that if Sterling k. Brown were involved in similar shenanigans it would be a problem. Is 2.5 men still on? I don't like the show, but it seems like after Charlie Sheen left amidst a scandal, the show took a dive and then they tried to bring in another actor and it didnt work. And to me, that isnt how anyone would want a powerhouse series to end, basically pushed off the air because it overstayed it's welcome. I'm not saying to end it tomorrow, but start thinking up a graceful exit so Lee Daniels can end the show on his own terms.
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    The Inventor: Out for Blood in Silicon Valley

    It may not functionally matter that much, but I'm sure her board of old creepy dudes preferred to think she was single. Because guys like that never lack confidence!
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    Empire in the Media: Read It In Billboard

    The advent of online content preceded empires premiere. To me, this means that their ratings should not slip because of online content because that has always been a part of their world. These current ratings slip aren't unexpected or even alarming for a show that has been on the air so long. It's a natural part of the life cycle of any popular show. It's all the rage, people are crazy about it and then more and more people fall off and it's hard to keep everything fresh and exciting. If the show was facing just a ratings decline or was the jauggernaut it used to be and the JS scandal came to light I think that may be a different calculus. If it was season 2 when empire was all anyone in the world was talking about and the js scandal came out, yeah just replace him, kill him off and keep it moving. But with there already being a ratings decline AND there is a very public and awful scandal involving like one of the main actors? That seems like a good time to think up a graceful way out. Particularly since, as you pointed out, people have so many other viewing options. Like why would I bend over backwards trying not to be distracted by the JS drama, when I can turn on Power, GOT, Westworld, Luther or any other number of shows. Also, it might be nice for the actors to get out before you only see them and think Hakeem! Andre! Porsha! Taraji has done a great job of finding other projects and Terrance Howard had an amazing career before empire, but the other cast members haven't had as much exposure to other roles beside Gabby s.
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    Empire in the Media: Read It In Billboard

    Meh, I don't know, still may be time to start thinking of an exit strategy at this point. The ratings were already slipping, which is just a natural consequence IMO of being on the air for a number of seasons. Anecdotally, empire is not the show that everyone talks about at the watercooler anymore. To me, the show nearly jumped the shark when they started putting cookie in some weird outfits. I did not watch empire for experimental fashion, I wanted to envy cookies hot looks! But, in addition to the natural slip in ratings even before JS, now there is the JS controversy, the cast coming out publicly in support of JS even when there was mounting evidence against him and it all just distracts from the show. Taraji is finding success in the film world and good for her. I'm sure all the other cast and crew can find great opportunities after being on such a successful show. Just seems like a good time to gracefully come up with an exit plan before the show is forced off the air.
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    S05. E16. The New Normal

    I like Mike b, and I really felt with him because Gordon is so cute and friendly. I also didn't mine him yelling at sos and Henry. Yes, it was nice to take a public stand. But it was kind of an indulgence, particularly when someone has worked so hard on your behalf. The decision to change the game up IN THE CAR....ON THE WAY THERE was a little selfish in light of the fact that Mike b spent a lot of time setting it up. I have no problem with there being real consequences for actions, even if they are well intentioned and righteous. If Bess can't even play the game enough.for her husband to give an agreed upon speech for a group of people who aren't even politicians (though they donate) she may be too inflexible for the big desk.
  12. Let me give you marciallnos reaction "something something, maybe it's the marine in me, something something"
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    The Inventor: Out for Blood in Silicon Valley

    ....if only Steve jobs had used suave conditoner...or if someone had told her he did.....
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    Eric & Leida: Put It In Proper

    It would be great if aless went back for an "extended visit" I wouldn't be surprised if leida tries to get aless his citizenship in the us but sends him back for "extended visits" like 90% of the time.
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    Empire in the Media: Read It In Billboard

    As far as I can remember the show was already losing some viewership though it remained very successful. It's hard to tell if maybe the JS scandal is just causing viewers who were already kinda bored to leave faster? This show has been wildly successful, and no show wants to jump the shark, so maybe it's time to think of a graceful way to end it in like 3 years or so.
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