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  1. No she won't. She'll use her son's grief. Her grandson's grief. Hope's grief. All to give her monstrous daughter what she (kind of) wants - Liam. She can't just buy him for her like a baby so manipulation will have to do.
  2. Yes at first Caroline and Ridge were good together. There was heat and the age difference wasn't as big a deal bc she was helping him and there was mutual respect. But by the end LG went full babyvoice and kowtowing and it got gross.
  3. 100% agree. Co-parent with benefits is all she should be willing to try with Bill.
  4. jenrising

    Leaving Neverland

    I agree and I was only saying this in reference to the complicated feelings these women have for Michael Jackson. Specifically the fond recollections of some things. Part of the grooming he did was with these mothers. Flattering and selling his "just a child at heart" story like he did to the public. It doesn't excuse their behavior or failure to put their child's safety above any personal enjoyment or potential benefits, but it does explain some of their feelings - which is one thing those who refuse to believe try to use against the victims. "Oh well if you have anything at all nice to say about him obviously nothing ever happened." Which is nonsense.
  5. jenrising

    Season 5 Discussion

    That was a really off moment. As somewhat reckless as the women have been, nothing we've seen before indicates that Jazmyn is that stupid. This too. The whole point of her cover story is to explain this. I don't buy any of it. I think they knew they were blown and just decided to make some "good" television moments.
  6. jenrising

    Leaving Neverland

    Just to be clear, I'm not trying to vilify the mothers. They were seduced as well. Manipulated so well that to this day they can't help but remember him fondly in part. That's what abusers do. You can still love someone who hurts you terribly.
  7. jenrising

    Leaving Neverland

    I was thinking the same thing about Abducted in Plain Sight.
  8. Same here. And she's moved to the exhausted stage of grief and I can feel it in every movement and word. Which is great acting but I would like it to stop now. Agree as well about the therapy. Why is no one even suggesting it?
  9. Funny you should say that. Hilarious. Ugh.
  10. Yes, it was on. Wyatt and Sally told Eric and Quinn they're leaving for Spencer - everyone happy and friendly and at first Quinn thought Wyatt proposed to Sally without a ring. A mortal sin for the son of a jewelry designer. Bill and Katie and Will chit-chat then Bill and Katie engage in some flirty banter while acknowledging their uh, complicated past. Hope tries to give Liam to Steffy - he does note that he can't be given away (all evidence to the contrary), but eventually he talks her down eventually and she apologizes for taking her ring off and they promise to get through this together. Steffy is... there. Then Phoebeth wakes up and Steffy brings her out to feed her (obviously just her since no one cares about Kelly anymore). Hope holds the baby and has a moment of peace and love while Liam and Steffy exchange worried glances.
  11. jenrising

    Temptation Island (2019)

    Totally agree about John. Some of the women are into him because it's the show and they just want camera time. But I do think some just like him. I think he's cute and much more the type of guy I would date than the others. I find Javen gorgeous but I wouldn't be interested in trying to date someone who probably spends 2 hours working out every day. There's nothing wrong with that but it isn't my thing. I also saw an insane spoiler pic that:
  12. jenrising

    The Passage

    Ridiculous as it would be, I would kind of love it if Lacey and her arsenal just showed up at the facility and kicked butt.
  13. jenrising

    From Across The Pond: Royal Weddings and Scandals

    Some photos of where the flower arrangements that were made at the baby shower ended up (more in the tweet linked below). https://twitter.com/scobie/status/1098713794103164928
  14. Long overdue and I hope they can get him this time.
  15. jenrising

    From Across The Pond: Royal Weddings and Scandals

    Yes, having a safe, private place is necessary. And it's not like the rented a private island for the weekend and all flew in on separate planes and gave out teslas as souvenirs (which would be fine with me because what rich people do with the money they earned is none of my business). For whatever reason everything she does is wrong and she has no right to any visible happiness. That's bullshit.