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  1. Not to sound insensitive or morbid or anything, but I'd love to be the person to sort through her stuff and clear her house out. Imagine what she must have in those closets and drawers.
  2. I've been collecting obituaries for over 30 years, so naturally I had to go see what you guys are talking about. All I can say is, wow. And that's not exactly an obit, even though they file it that way on the website. Not a normal obit anyway. Pretty awful. Most obituaries celebrate a person, or at the very least, make it about them! Anyway, I'm going to post it. Sorry, it's long. I hope I don't break PreviouslyTV.com. Here it is: Lee Radziwill, Ex-Princess and Sister of Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis, Dies at 85 Lee Radziwill, the free-spirited former princess who shared the qualities of wealth, social status and ambition with her older sister, Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis, but who struggled as an actor, decorator and writer to share her sister’s aura of success, died on Friday at her home in Manhattan. She was 85. Her daughter, Anna Christina Radziwill, confirmed the death, citing natural causes. It cannot have been easy living in the shadow of one of the world’s most famous women, the wife of President John F. Kennedy, and Mrs. Radziwill was hardly immune to competitive instincts. Jackie Kennedy had helped create the mystique of the thousand days of Camelot — a woman who had made her new home a place of elegance and culture, who had brought babies into the White House for the first time in the 20th century. Mrs. Radziwill, the wife of a Polish émigré nobleman, Prince Stanislas Radziwill, was an international socialite and fashion icon who for years was on lists of the world’s best-dressed women. Like Jackie, she had cultivated passions for painting, music, dance and poetry. She made several attempts for professional recognition, but achieved only pale reflections of the spotlight on her sister. For years — especially before and during Mrs. Kennedy’s time as first lady — Mrs. Radziwill had been close to her sister, sharing holidays and family gatherings; attending state functions; visiting the White House; hosting the Kennedys at the Radziwill townhouse in London; and, notably, taking a monthlong 1962 vacation with Jackie in Italy, India and Pakistan. Cementing family ties, the Kennedys had named their firstborn child Caroline, after Caroline Lee, who had always been known by her middle name. Mr. Kennedy had been godfather to the Radziwills’ daughter, Anna Christina. It all started to change after the president’s assassination in 1963. Rushing to Washington from her home in London, Mrs. Radziwill brought sensitivity and emotional support to the crisis at hand. In the ensuing days, with the nation watching, she was a visible support for the widow in weeds, escorting her husband’s body to the Capitol to lie in state; during the funeral at the Cathedral of St. Matthew the Apostle, and at burial ceremonies at Arlington National Cemetery. Mrs. Radziwill kept her composure until Air Force One, passing overhead, dipped a wing in salute. Then she wept. Behind the scenes, she pinned a note to Jackie’s pillow, expressing love and admiration for her courage. And she helped Jackie get through the last terrible day, leaving the White House with her children and moving to the diplomat W. Averell Harriman’s Georgetown house, which had been made available for Jackie and the children. After the president’s death, Mrs. Radziwill helped Mrs. Kennedy resettle in New York, a few blocks up Fifth Avenue from an apartment Mrs. Radziwill had just bought. In the small world of celebrities, it is hardly surprising that Mrs. Kennedy’s future husband, Aristotle Onassis, the Greek shipping magnate, had been a close friend of the Radziwills’. They had hosted dinner parties in London for him, and had joined him on cruises aboard his yacht, the Christina. Indeed, tabloids had long romantically linked Mrs. Radziwill and Mr. Onassis, a notorious womanizer. In a brief telephone interview for this obituary, Mrs. Radziwill scoffed at the notion that she had had an affair with Mr. Onassis, and insisted that she had “no regrets, none at all,” about her relationship with her sister, which was widely reported to have been strained after Mrs. Kennedy married Mr. Onassis. In August 1963, after Mrs. Kennedy gave birth prematurely to a third child, Patrick, who died after a day, Mrs. Radziwill called her, relaying an invitation from Mr. Onassis to recuperate on his yacht. A grieving Mrs. Kennedy, wanting privacy, accepted the invitation and, accompanied by the Radziwills, joined Mr. Onassis for an extended cruise in the Aegean Sea. “The story of Jackie’s effect on Ari during that cruise has been told many times,” Diana DuBois wrote in “In Her Sister’s Shadow: An Intimate Biography of Lee Radziwill” (1995). “Lee would tell her intimates later that she was only trying to do something nice for her sister when she brought her along on the Christina, and that Jackie co-opted Onassis on that cruise.” Echoing news accounts of the era, the book added: “Jackie’s expropriation of Onassis drove a deep wedge between the two women, which, when coupled with a parallel development between Jackie and Robert Kennedy in the aftermath of the assassination, was the beginning of a profound change in their relationship, one that would last.” In the months after the assassination, according to historians and news reports of the day, Robert Kennedy provided deep emotional support in a time of psychic trauma for Jackie, and the fact that the two were frequently seen together in absorbed conversation gave rise inevitably to rumors that their relationship was something closer than the kindness and comforting of an in-law. But nothing more substantive was ever demonstrated. Five years after the president’s assassination, in a made-for-tabloids event, Mrs. Kennedy and Mr. Onassis were married, with a prenuptial agreement that guaranteed her millions. Mrs. Radziwill attended the wedding on Skorpios, Mr. Onassis’ private island. As the sisters drifted apart, Mrs. Radziwill in the 1960s made new, creative friends, including the dancers Rudolf Nureyev and Margot Fonteyn, the architect and decorator Renzo Mongiardino, the stage and costume designer Cecil Beaton, and the writer Truman Capote. In 1967, encouraged by her friends, Mrs. Radziwill began an acting career. She studied with teachers from the Royal Academy of Dramatic Art and the London Academy of Music and Dramatic Art. Mr. Capote advised her to make her debut as Tracy Lord, the spoiled, spirited socialite in Philip Barry’s comedy “The Philadelphia Story.” It had been Katharine Hepburn’s role on Broadway and in a Hollywood film. The revival was staged in Chicago. Publicity hailed the star as Jackie Kennedy’s princess sister. The opening was a media circus. The reviews were devastating. “A new star is not born,” The Chicago Tribune crowed. Other critics called her performance wooden and amateurish. She was hurt, but audiences were not put off, and she gamely finished a four-week run. Mr. Capote then urged David Susskind, the producer, to put his protégé in a television play. A remake of “Laura,” the classic 1944 Otto Preminger film, was chosen, with Mrs. Radziwill again in a role made unforgettable by another star, Gene Tierney. Mr. Capote helped write the script. It aired nationally on ABC in January 1968. The reviews were not kind. “A stunning clotheshorse upon whom no discernible Thespian demands were made,” wrote Jack Gould, the television critic for The New York Times. Variety intoned: “She is just not an actress.” Mrs. Radziwill returned to London, her acting career over. The Radziwill-Capote friendship ended soon after. They fell out when she refused to testify for Mr. Capote in a libel suit brought by Gore Vidal over a Capote assertion, citing her as his source, that Mr. Vidal had been ejected drunk from the Kennedy White House. Mr. Vidal said he had merely been escorted to his hotel by friends after antagonizing Attorney General Robert Kennedy. Mr. Vidal won the suit and an apology. In 1976, Mrs. Radziwill founded an interior design firm. She attracted a few corporate and wealthy private clients and drew favorable publicity, including a feature spread in Architectural Digest. But her designing career was brief. Her writing ambitions fared no better. She was contracted to write a memoir in the early 1970s and another in the late ’90s, but neither book was finished. In 2001, she published “Happy Times,” a slim picture book with reminiscences on the Bouvier sisters’ carefree early years. Caroline Lee Bouvier was born in Manhattan on March 3, 1933, to John Vernou Bouvier III and the former Janet Norton Lee. Her mother was socially prominent and her father, a Wall Street broker called Black Jack, traced his lineage to French soldiers who fought in the Revolutionary War. The parents were divorced in 1940, and Mrs. Bouvier married Hugh D. Auchincloss Jr., a Standard Oil heir, who had three children by previous marriages and two, Janet and Jamie, in his marriage to Mrs. Bouvier. Lee grew up in the shade of her sister, who was nearly four years older and was her father’s favorite and an accomplished equestrian. They lived in commodious Manhattan apartments and at estates on Long Island and in McLean, Va., and Newport, R.I., where they learned to sail on Narragansett Bay. Lee attended the Potomac School in Washington and Miss Porter’s School in Farmington, Conn. Her teachers at Miss Porter’s found her bright and imaginative, but her grades were average, whereas her sister was remembered as a star. Lee enrolled at Sarah Lawrence College, but left in her sophomore year to study art in Italy. She joined Harper’s Bazaar in 1950 as an assistant to the legendary editor Diana Vreeland. She held the job briefly, but it sparked her lifelong interest in fashion. In 1951, Lee and Jacqueline Bouvier toured London, Paris, Rome, Florence, Venice and Madrid. Their reminiscences were collected in “One Special Summer” (1974). In 1953, Lee married Michael Temple Canfield, the adopted son of Cass Canfield, chairman of the publisher Harper & Brothers. They lived in London, where Mr. Canfield was private secretary to Winthrop Aldrich, the United States ambassador to the Court of St. James’s. They had no children and were divorced in 1958. The marriage was later annulled by the Catholic Church. In 1959, she married Prince Radziwill, 20 years her senior, who had arrived in London in 1946 and made a fortune in real estate. The couple had an estate near Henley-on-Thames and a Georgian townhouse near Buckingham Palace. They had two children, Prince Anthony and Princess Anna Christina, and were divorced in 1974. Anthony died in 1999. In 1988, Mrs. Radziwill married Herbert Ross, the director and choreographer, whose films included “The Sunshine Boys” (1975), “The Goodbye Girl” (1977) and “Steel Magnolias” (1989). They were divorced shortly before his death in 2001, and she resumed the Radziwill surname. In addition to her daughter, Anna Christina, Mrs. Radziwill is survived by a daughter-in-law, the actress Carole Radziwill, and her half brother, Jamie Auchincloss. Her half sister, Janet Auchincloss, died in 1985. Mrs. Radziwill was a public relations executive for Giorgio Armani from 1986 to 1994, directing special events for the Italian fashion designer. After Mrs. Onassis died in 1994, her will made no material provision for her sister, “for whom I have great affection,” Mrs. Onassis wrote, “because I have already done so in my lifetime.” It left bequests to each of her sister’s children. The disinheritance of Mrs. Radziwill was widely interpreted as another sign of strain between the sisters, whose relationship had captivated the press and public throughout their lives. Mrs. Radziwill, who lived in Manhattan, said in a 2013 interview with The Times that being Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis’ sister had been double-edged. “In some funny way, I’m lucky that there was so much more interest in my sister,” she said. “At times it was annoying, at times funny. Perhaps the most depressing part was that whatever I did, or tried to do, got disproportionate coverage purely because of Jackie being my sister. But you learn to deal with scrutiny, even the lies, as long as it’s not malicious.”
  3. I'm seeing a little Kate Chastain in a few years with this one...
  4. Teri313

    Eric & Leida: Put It In Proper

    Absolutely unforgivable. If there was any hope for reconciliation with Tasha, he pretty much put the last nail in the coffin with that one.
  5. From the In Touch article: "But they did address one of the biggest moments that happened during their tell-all segment when Tarik and Hazel revealed that they did consummate their relationship after filming ended, which resulted in a pregnancy scare. 'We had a misunderstanding, she was not pregnant, she was just late,' Tarik said during the tell-all. But the couple hit a bit of a rough patch because of their misunderstanding, and Tarik ended up accusing Hazel of terminating her pregnancy. After she explained that it was just a late cycle, Tarik apologized and Hazel accepted his apology." He's such an idiot and obviously wanted to believe her. I'd call that convenience forgiveness. I believe that she was pregnant and it wasn't his, so she terminated the pregnancy.
  6. Teri313

    S06.E17: Reunion

    And don't forget, hooking up with Hannah. He seems a little out of control.
  7. Teri313

    S06.E17: Reunion

    I suspect they didn't air it initially to protect Caroline's privacy, and perhaps avoid a lawsuit. And then when Caroline saw how they edited it (remember, she tweeted ahead of that episode airing that we will be shocked at what happened), and she spoke with Andy, she probably said, AIR IT for the reunion. She wanted the whole story told to vindicate herself. I have always loved Kate, mainly for her quick wit, but that scene was, quite simply, horrible. It made me sick. Whether or not Caroline has herpes, what those two did was disgusting and high school mean girl crap. And I think they should have been more horrified at their own actions in retrospect. They only felt bad because they were outed, and to say, "Yeah, I feel bad, BUT..." There is NO BUT! There just isn't. Own it, and apologize. And Captain Lee should have been horrified as well, not just "uncomfortable." However, we've seen him coast with things on the surface before and then in the privacy of the wheel house do some serious reaming. Two things that come to mind: how he responded to the guy with the kids regarding being left with no water or towels - kind of, oh sorry, that's not cool, then goes a little ballistic on the deck crew in private, and Dean with the "rocket ship" blanket fold on Season 1. So I'm hoping that after the fact, he gave them a dressing down. Remember, his motto is, Don't embarrass yourself, DON'T EMBARRASS THE BOAT.
  8. Teri313

    S05.E06: Operation Complication

    I also think it's funny that she's so fixated on the depth of it. Women just don't think like that. I wonder if that's a hold over from her old self, as boys do find value in size.
  9. Please tell me Andy Baby Shower doesn't mean Andy Cohen is having a baby...???
  10. Teri313

    S07.E07: Girls' Night In

    I haven't read this whole post yet (I just caught up on the show), so forgive me if it's already been discussed, but ... I can't believe what a shit show infomercial this has become for all of their "businesses." Tom-Tom, James.Mae, MawMaw's Beer Cheese, Stassi's whatever-it-is, I have no idea, Katie's Pucker and Pout and Girls' Night In, Billy's brunch thing, James' DJing, a couple of show nobodies plugging The Bachelor - am I forgetting anybody? It's obviously been building over time, but now we're getting hit full-on with it. I feel like kind of an asshole for watching.
  11. Teri313

    S07.E07: Girls' Night In

    It really pissed me off the way she took such nasty swipes at Shay after they split up. The crap she would say about him on national TV, insulting his penis size and talking about how much bigger and better Rob was was disgusting. Shay wasn't a mean person. He was a broken person, and she was the worse type of person for him to marry. It was always about her. He was just a prop for her. At the wedding, she would say things like, thank you for coming to MY wedding, with him standing right next to her! She's a narcissistic asshole and that's why she will probably never succeed in a relationship.
  12. That is why I don't watch this show anymore. I can't stand watching Teresa and her kids. I never really minded Joe (except when he wouldn't take responsibility for their crimes). I especially liked watching him hang out with Rosie. But watching her set those girls up for failure is not enjoyable to me. She rewards bad behavior either through ignoring it, denying it, or encouraging it by laughing. The only kid I like is the second oldest. She never seemed to really fit in with this family. She was quiet and didn't look like them. I don't even remember her name, if I knew it to begin with. Milania, on the other hand, was raised to be a brat. Teresa has said that she loves her behavior because she is the image of herself. I remember a scene where Teresa and Milania were in a supermarket and Milania climbed up in one of the produce bins and was totally hamming it up for the camera and Teresa thought it was hilarious. Great, just what I'd want - to buy my fruit that this kid was just rolling all over and putting her feet on. It also made me sick to watch how Milania treated that little white dog, dragging it around like a rag doll. Anyway, Teresa is, and always has been, an asshole. IMO.
  13. Teri313

    Steven & Olga: Babies With Babies

    They do. It's a nice photo. I've been a little hard on Steven in the past, but I also give him credit when he steps up and takes care of them. A lot of guys wouldn't even be in the picture, but he does try, even if it comes out harsh sometimes. I'm really hoping for all three of them that it's just a matter of maturity and that he will learn from the experience of seeing himself on TV. In the last confessional cam footage where he's home by himself talking about the Tell All, I think he was sincere when he said he felt like an asshole for saying that he didn't owe Olga an apology.
  14. Teri313

    Eric & Leida: Put It In Proper

    I hope she can do that, even when Eric and Leida break up for good. He will come crawling back, eyes brimming with tears, asking to be let back into the fold. I think we can all imagine that scene. I just hope that Tasha and the other girls remember how he sided with a psycho over them. After a lifetime of no relationship with my father because of his second wife, I finally reached out to him when she was dying, knowing that she would no longer be able to create wedges. We had a relationship for a few years. Kind of awkward, but we were making some progress. Then she finally died and he got on dating websites before she was buried (literally, he even hit on a woman at the funeral) - and keep in mind, he was in his 70s! He went through a bunch of old widows (yeah, he was a dog until the end) (no offense to dogs), then ended up with a lady much like the other wife (with eyes for his $$$), married her after 6 weeks of knowing her, and reverted right back to the way it was my whole life. Just bizarre. So all I'm saying Tasha is you saw who he really is. If he hooks up with someone who doesn't want competition (i.e., his kids), he will mostly likely choose his love interest over you again.