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  1. Razzberry

    History Talk: The Victorian Era

    Found a pic of Palmerston's estate in Sligo, though it turns out he was another absentee landlord and never actually lived there. V & A did go to Ireland but took the royal yacht, stopping in Cork long enough for the parade and renaming the port "Queenstown", then on to Dublin. What strikes me when looking at these castles is the vast divide. There was almost no "middle class" or hope out of extreme poverty. The manor homes were paid for by the rents collected by the so-called aristocrats, and the Catholic peasants were forced to pay 10% of their income as a tithe to the Protestant church. Below is my great grandfather's name in a Tithe Applotment book, circa 1835. The tax was based on the size and quality of the land they farmed. Notice the "Bogs not chargeable" column, which was big of them. 😉 My ancestors lived in Connaught near Ballaghadereen on the Mayo/Roscommon/Sligo border. Their landlord was Viscount Dillon, who owned vast swathes of the counties, but by most accounts he was a relatively good man who refused to evict anyone during the famine. He was also a closet Catholic and attended Mass, despite the threat of land confiscation from London, who sent detectives. The stone huts with dirt floors where my grandparents grew up still stand today somewhat. 7-9 people per cabin.
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    S03.E05: A Show of Unity

    Albert had agreed to the punishment before hiring the tutor since Bertie was out of control, but the show made it seem they were shocked. Victoria continues sighing, deeply and often. So out of touch that her maid has to inform her the Irish still have issues. Albert has a faraway look in his eyes these days. Feodora gives the kids booze with breakfast and takes pearls for peerage. I like her. There's no 'squirreling' of Lady Palmerston.
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    History Talk: The Victorian Era

    My dish guide says Part 3 will be on tomorrow (Monday) night at 10 pm, but it probably depends on each station.
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    S03.E05: A Show of Unity

    Feodora is so busy planting seeds of distrust and stirring it up, but to what end? Give me a clue or quit it. Meanwhile Victoria is shocked and appalled that her presence every few decades in right-nextdoor Ireland isn't universally appreciated. I've been doing a little digging. Palmerston did indeed have an estate in Connacht, Co. Sligo, and he's not fondly remembered there according to https://www.sligoheritage.com/archirishvillage.htm "Palmerston presided over Mullaghmore and North Sligo during the worst years of the Irish Holocaust, the great famine of the mid 19th century. His record during that period is shameful. During the summer and autumn of 1847, nine vessels, carrying over 2,000 persons left Sligo port with tenants evicted and “shovelled out” from his Sligo estates. They arrived in Canada half naked and totally destitute. The city of St. John in the Canadian province of New Brunswick had to take many of Palmerston’s evicted tenants into care and, outraged, sent a scathing letter to Palmerston expressing regret and fury that he or his agents, ‘should have exposed such a numerous and distressed portion of his tenantry to the severity and privation of a New Brunswick winter ......unprovided with the common means of support, with broken down constitutions and almost in a state of nudity ..... without regard to humanity or even common decency.’ More recently in 1979 Mullaghmore is also where Victoria's great grandson Earl Mountbatton was assassinated by the IRA when they blew up his boat, killing all on board.
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    History Talk: The Victorian Era

    Last night PBS showed a 2-parter on Victoria's nine children that was really good. The historians interviewed were less deferential than Miss Daisy.
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    S03.E05: If You Have Ghosts

    That was another great but disturbing scene. I got the feeling Roland was biting his tongue too hard to say anything on that subject.
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    S03.E05: If You Have Ghosts

    And we haven't even found out yet what Hays did. That's more of a mystery to me. At this point there's so many red herrings that I'm not gonna drive myself crazy trying to figure it out. In season one my home office looked like Rust's storage locker, lol. I'm liking this a lot more than #2, mainly due to Ali, but agree it's not as nearly as compelling as 1. They followed that formula to a surprising degree. I predict season 4 will be about a troubled but soulful loner who partners with affable cop with a drinking problem to solve some child murders that hint of conspiracy at the top level.
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    History Talk: The Victorian Era

    Hmm. Nothing about the brother, but from Heir Apparent: "Throughout her life she depended upon the support of dominant men, and the rough, plain-speaking Brown, who addressed her as “wumman” at a time when she craved intimacy and no one called her Victoria anymore, went some way to filling the gap in her life left by Albert. Brown was a drunkard and a bully, and he terrorized the household, who nicknamed him the Queen’s Stallion. Victoria’s children hated him. His cruelty toward the hemophiliac Prince Leopold is documented; he hit Leopold, scolded him from morning till night, and kept him in isolation, banishing his favorite dog.8 The children came to dread holidays at Balmoral, where Brown reigned supreme." Ridley, Jane. The Heir Apparent (Kindle Locations 3138-3144). Random House Publishing Group. Kindle Edition. In light of her later relationships and crappy taste in men she lucked out with Albert, I guess.
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    History Talk: The Victorian Era

    I was browsing Amazon for some movies about her and found Mrs. Brown. The genre is listed as 'Horror', which strikes me as funny. I read that he was a bully who even hit the hemophiliac son, but I don't think that made it into the film. Mrs. Brown with Judi Dench Oh the horror
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    S03.E04: The Hour and the Day

    According to Ali the character of Hays was originally written as white, and they didn't re-write it entirely, so I didn't attach anything racial to the restaurant scene. To me it seemed like a bit of dark comedy. The things waitresses must overhear!
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    S03.E03: Et in Arcadia

    'Bout time Victoria started raging. Albert's hair gets longer and darker each episode. Wasn't he balding by then? The Duchess and studly footman is such a trope, but it's 100% better than Skerrit and Francotelli.
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    S03.E03: Et in Arcadia

    Dear god please no more Chartists tonight. They're milked all the drama from that already. We get it, Victoria cared deeply about the common people. LOL I'm actually glad Feodora is there to add some drama because Victoria's martyred sigh and Albert's whispery voice is getting to me.
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    S03.E02: London Bridge is Falling Down

    I wonder what unspeakable deed Feodora will do next. I've been looking for some dirt on her but can't find any, unless a gentle rebuke to Victoria was enough to make her a villain. "Victoria kept a disgusted distance from her son. The waspish diarist Charles Greville picked up rumors that “the hereditary and unfailing antipathy of our sovereigns to their Heir Apparent seems … early to be taking root, and the Queen does not much like the child.” One person who dared to speak to the Queen about her relations with Bertie was her half sister, Feodora, safely ensconced in a distant palace in provincial Germany. “ Do show him love , dearest Victoria,” she begged, “I know that he thinks you are not fond of him.” But showing love to her eldest son was something that Victoria was quite unable to do. So emotionally dependent was she on Albert that she wanted only to be the “child ” of her husband. Bertie was despised for his failure to resemble his father in looks, character, or ability. Ridley, Jane. The Heir Apparent. Random House Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
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