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  1. Paloma

    S03.E13: Pandemonium

    Is this the season finale?
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    S04.E15: Chapter Seventy-Nine

    That may have been my favorite moment in this episode if only because I feel the same way and have always felt like that means there is something not normal about me, since the depictions of mothers in media are often black and white--either you are a good mom who loves kids or you are a selfish, kid-hating non-mother. It's not just loving/liking your own kids vs. other kids, it also can apply to grandchildren. You always hear about how women can't wait to be grandmothers, but I had no interest in it. However, when my granddaughter was born 2 years ago, I fell totally in love with her and wish I could see her, talk to her, and cuddle with her every day. (Unfortunately, she lives in another country.) I don't dislike other children, but I still feel uncomfortable around them and have no desire to spend time with them. Like Petra and J.R., I'm just not a "kids person."
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    Travelers

    Can you remind me what the 17 minutes refers to? There was so much going on in this episode (and in the whole series) that I must have missed or forgotten that.
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    Bodyguard

    When the train incident happened in the first episode, I actually thought he might be a hostage negotiator already, and if not he should be. But now that Nadia has said "ha, ha, I fooled you," I don't know if he would have the confidence to deal with a similar situation. And counseling or not, PTSD doesn't just go away so could be considered a disqualifier for a hostage negotiation or crisis management team.
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    Bodyguard

    Poor Budd, with all the conflicts of interest and information he has to keep hidden, on top of his PTSD and mess of a family life. Given how determined he has seemed to behave professionally, I find it a little hard to believe he would continue a sexual relationship with Julia (the first time I could understand, with both of them having narrowly escaped death). But I guess it's one way to ensure he can follow his orders to spy on Julia. I'm assuming that there is a conspiracy within the government to build up fear of terrorism in order to implement laws that will restrict freedoms, and it will be interesting to see who is behind this. Julia is being presented as the obvious suspect, but it's probably a lot more complicated. I'm having trouble following all the unfamiliar governmental units and acronyms but hope it will eventually become clear(er).
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    The Kominsky Method

    That was a big laugh for me and my husband also because I got an iPhone last year and still can't figure out how to answer a call when the phone is locked (for some reason it will not accept my touch to unlock it, so I have to enter the passcode and always fumble that). Most of the time the caller has hung up by the time I am able to answer it. We thought the series was great, despite the premise not sounding all that appealing. Of course, we are the target audience (late 60s-early 70s with the various complaints of aging, though luckily nothing serious yet), but Douglas and Arkin played off of each other so well. It was funny but with just the right touch of poignancy--for example, the funeral scene. It didn't hurt that they had LaBelle performing one of my favorite songs of all time in that scene (and Lady Marmalade has been stuck in my head ever since). It's interesting that a lot of people compare this show to Grace & Frankie. I understand why, but I gave up on that show after a few episodes. Maybe it's just because I had trouble feeling sympathy for wealthy women who are older than me but look much better and have amazing beachfront homes. For some reason the wealth in The Kominsky Method did not bother me as much, and maybe it was easier to sympathize with older men who have a similar sense of humor as my husband does about getting older. Speaking of women who are older than me but look much better: I agree that she was making a move on him, but wasn't that Ann-Margaret (not Angie Dickinson)? Her timing was wrong, but I don't think widows should be condemned or mocked for seeking companionship, especially with someone who is already in their circle of friends. I don't like to think about myself being in that situation, but I know I would be very lonely and depressed at the prospect of not having love or romance for the rest of my life.
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    S01.E08: Part VIII

    I'm glad the ending addressed most of the questions but agree with everyone about it being hard to believe the parents would not raise the alarm about the missing daughters and especially Phoebe not coming back when Cora did. I understand the mother not caring about Cora being gone, but after devoting her whole life to Phoebe (even though I still wonder if the mother had MPD and was the one who made and/or kept her sick) and after seeing Cora come back without Phoebe, questions should have been asked. I guess we are supposed to believe that the mother stopped caring about Phoebe because she (the mother) heard the girls talking about running away and considered this a betrayal. But the father was not crazy like the mother and should have had some concern about what happened to his daughters. I also agree with this: Another thing that was hard to believe was that Maddie turned up fine and with a baby. In the final recovered memories of the night at the bar (which I think we are supposed to trust as true), Maddie was in the bathroom trying to tell Cora that JD is a bad guy, with a story about him getting a girl pregnant, wanting to name the baby Winter, and after rejected by JD the girl walks into traffic and ends up injured and losing the pregnancy--this is presumably the basis of the story Cora originally told Ambrose, when she said she got pregnant and walked into traffic, got seriously injured, and lost the pregnancy. When Maddie tells this story to Cora, it's not clear if she is talking about herself or someone else, but later in the sex and drugs scene in the basement when Maddie comes in and JD tells her to leave, JD says that getting pregnant and walking into traffic did not make her matter (or make her special--I don't remember the wording). So clearly the story Maddie told Cora was about her, which results in the question: Where did baby Winter come from? Did Maddie get pregnant again after she got out from under JD's influence? The timeline is confusing, especially since we thought we saw Maddie outside JD's house when Cora's husband went there the first time (though that could have been a red herring and really it was some other blonde). Smaller but still annoying questions: Who was the guy with bushy hair wearing the mask at the club, and why did Frankie's father have the same mask when he was keeping Cora in his house? This was the same mask seen in the basement of the club when Ambrose went there and when he took Cora there the first time. How did it get from the bushy hair guy to Frankie's father, and how did it end up back in the basement? Frankie didn't deserve to die, but I don't have much sympathy for his parents and hope they get severe punishment. The father was about to kill Cora with the shovel after he put Phoebe in the burial spot--I guess he deserves a smidge of credit for pulling back at the last moment, but the ordeal he put Cora through was horrendous. And his wife's reaction was "get this bloody girl out of here" rather than any concern for her welfare. I'm a mom of an adult daughter and understand the instinct to do anything to protect them, but these types of crimes go far beyond what any normal parent would do (I hope). I don't think I will watch Season 2 unless it gets great reviews. Even if it does, I won't watch if Detective Ambrose and his masochistic sex life are a plot point.
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    S01.E06: Part VI

    Didn't like this episode for all the reasons given above (and I'm totally taken out of the suspense in any episode where they focus of the detective's marital problems and S&M relationship) but I'm still intrigued by the mystery and am hoping they will tie this up in a way that is consistent with the clues and not out of left field. I like elements of some of the theories you all have posted, though none of them work completely in my mind. I do think Munchausen and/or Munchausen by proxy has to be a factor, and I think the mother is the culprit because she had the most access to Phoebe in her early years (remember that she insisted to her husband that she had to have Phoebe in her bed or bedroom). Even after Phoebe was sharing a room with Cora, the mother still would mostly control Phoebe's access to food, drink, and medications. I don't see Cora being the culprit in making Phoebe sick because it wouldn't benefit her to make her sister sick--people who do this (most often mothers) typically do it for the positive attention and sympathy they get, especially from medical professionals, and Cora got only negative attention, punishment, and guilt. Another reason I suspect the mother is that when Ambrose visited the parents she was sick and appeared to have bruises or skin lesions on her arms; that would be consistent with one of the theories about the cause of MBP--that the person doing this to a child may have Munchausen herself. We don't know whether the mother did anything to herself before Phoebe was born, but once Phoebe and Cora were gone she could have started making herself sick to get the attention and sympathy she used to get from her daughter's sickness. I may be wrong about all of this, but it is a fascinating and disturbing topic--here is one discussion: https://kidshealth.org/en/parents/munchausen.html The problem I have with Cora really being Phoebe is the physical reality that Phoebe seemed too weak to go anywhere on her own--it seemed like she could barely walk. Unless Cora somehow physically carried her to the bar, how did she get there? Even if JD was part of the sex ring (most likely as the one who seduced and drugged girls and took them to the club), why would he want to help Cora bring Phoebe there? I also don't see JD caring about "curing" Phoebe unless he really cared about Cora and thought it would release her from Phoebe's "vampire" control. Also, when Cora's husband confronted JD, JD said something like "Does she still say Daddy, Daddy, Daddy [when she is having sex]?" Cora may have had Daddy issues (including the possibility that he molested her), but Phoebe didn't seem to feel strongly about him one way or another. One possibility that would sort of fit the "Cora really being Phoebe" theory is if Cora had a psychotic break (whether from drugs or seeing something traumatic, or just the extreme stress of her home life) and somehow "became" Phoebe psychologically--in that sense, letting Phoebe live through her. But even if this is the case, I still can't figure out how this all fits into the sex parties and possible human hunting. Going back to the Munchausen theory, one possibility is that the mother accidentally killed Phoebe and forced Cora to help her bury her--that would certainly be a traumatic memory that Cora would bury. But given Phoebe's history of illnesses and interactions with medical professionals, I don't see how the mother would explain her disappearance. And this also wouldn't fit into the sex parties and possible human hunting. But there could be two separate stories and two separate traumatic memories.
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    S01.E02: Part II

    I like this theory! Not sure about the Frankie connection, but from what the barmaid said it doesn't seem like he was in the bar with Cora (at least based on hair color, though--as another poster said, how could she remember anyone from 5 years ago). OTOH, JD seems significant because it fits with what the barmaid said and Cora's husband used to hang with him--the conversation he had with the other guy about JD gave me the sense that there was something unsavory about JD. As a chocoholic who always feel guilty about how much I eat, I get how one kind of pleasure can get confused with another and how both can be associated with sin (even though I'm non-observant Jewish and don't have any religious hangups).
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    S01.E01: Part I

    Originally I was sure it was theory 1 or 2 because I interpreted her saying that she was "saving" the girl as more literal (saving her from being raped), but I like your third theory given the extreme guilt trip her mother gave her. My husband and I just stumbled on this series on Netflix and decided to give it a try even though we hadn't heard anything about it. It's definitely a genre I enjoy, and I don't mind if the plotlines have been done before as long as this particular plot keeps my interest.
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    S03.E09: Don't Let the Good Life Pass You By

    They have been intentionally vague about the existence of the Good Place. The best supporting evidence for it is Demons think it exists and have talked about it when not around the 4 humans. In the first season we learned all U.S. presidents except Lincoln are in the Bad Place. There is a warehouse for Good Place Janets. The very existence of a Good Place Janet seems to indicate the existence of a Good Place. Mindy St. Claire is in a Medium Place, which seems to indicate the existence of a Good Place. There's a Judge who determines people's fate, and accountants who tally up their lives. Everyone going to a Bad Place regardless of how they live seems to contradict the philosophical teachings of the show. The title of the show is literally The Good Place. Some of these can be explained away. And in fact, many of them were presented in a way that seems to intentionally keep the Good Place just out of sight. The Good Place Janet Warehouse was not located in The Good Place. The non-existence of the Good Place could be hidden even from the demons. President Lincoln could be in some sort of Medium Place, or Michael was simply lying still at this point, or it could be a continuation of the lie being told by the Super Demons to keep the demons in line. Maybe Mindy is not actually in a Medium Place, but her own personal Bad Place. She seemed to be tortured the entire time. (Until Janet sent her some company anyway. Wind chimes!) I think Jacksonville Style Pool has a lot of symbolic meaning for the show. Everyone is just making up points on the spot. There are no rules. Maybe even go a step further with it - since you make up your own points, whether you win or lose depends completely on you. Did you live a life that you're happy with, or were you completely miserable while trying to live to someone else's standard? Doug Forcett is going to the Bad Place because he tried to live to according to the point system and made his own life miserable. This meshes pretty well with what we're learning about the characters this season. Tahani always tried to please her parents and live up to her sister's reputation, but could never be happy living that way. Eleanor made herself miserable because she was angry at her mother, so her entire life was essentially wasted. Chidi attempted to weigh every decision according to every moral and philosophical principle he knew (which were often conflicting) but could never finish his own thesis. Jason is the only one that's more difficult - he was certainly influenced into his lifestyle by Donkey Doug but I never felt he was anything less than happy with his life. Well, except he never got to see the Jags be a good team. All that said, I have a feeling we're in for a big twist at the end of the season. What the twist is may depend a little on whether the show is renewed for a season 4. It's certainly not as easy to predict as the season 1 twist, but here are a few crazy theories: As said above, there is no Good Place. This makes most sense if there's a season 4 because I don't see the show giving us such a grim conclusion. Eleanor's Super Demon theory comes into play. (People have been suggesting this is really Michael's Bad Place since Season 1. It could easily be his Bad Place or his Good Place.) OR There is no Good Place, but Michael convinces the Judge to let him build one using his refined architect skills. This would make a good series finale because it would be difficult to show a satisfying Good Place, and better to leave it to the imagination. (Eternal torture is much easier to write than Eternal bliss.) Michael succeeds in rewriting the Point System. I'm not sure what this actually looks like, or exactly how the Brainy Bunch would be involved. They have actually been in the Good Place the entire time! The four six of them have continually been saving each other. They've continually been falling in love. And overcoming their weaknesses. And growing as people. If the standard vision of a Good Place is sitting around fat and content and happy for eternity - that seems like something that would one would grow weary of. Where repeatedly experiencing these things for the first time seems exciting. I.e. the difference between "falling in love" vs "being in love." Jason is the real Architect of the entire thing. This is something I predicted from early in S1 that still fits in a weird way. I don't usually like to copy long posts, but this is a great analysis by ae2! The only thing I don't see is why/how Jason would be the real Architect. I have a question about Doug Forcett: is his character some kind of inside joke about Canadians? This is the impression I've gotten from a few comments but hadn't heard the name before and have no idea what the joke is (if any) about his name.
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    S03.E09: Don't Let the Good Life Pass You By

    That makes sense, although it's possible that trying to earn points for The Good Place doesn't lose you as many points as doing good things for mostly selfish reasons. I'm impressed with him also--he was totally convincing as Chuck, but even with my having watched BCS recently and initially being surprised when I realized who they cast as Doug, MM was believable as that very different character.
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    S03.E07: A Fractured Inheritance

    I agree with all of this. I have had a lot of therapy to deal with a lot of hurt from a parent and step-parent that pretty much ignored me through high school when they had a child together, and sometimes even to this day they do things that remind me I'm not really "their" kid (and I'm in my 40's now). I felt/feel very bitter and angry sometimes. Who does that hurt? Certainly not them! When I was younger I tried to forgive them, but I was always still feeling hurt and angry. Then I was told something that finally helped me: Forgiveness isn't really a feeling. True forgiveness is moving past that hurt and anger to treat the offender like it is in the past. I can still be hurt but yet treat my parents with love. Is it hard? Very! I think this is exactly what Eleanor did with her mom. By working things out with her mom and parting on good terms she is in essence forgiving her, but Eleanor clearly isn't just "over it" because she did that. I think this episode really resonates with anyone who has been betrayed by a parent, and I think KB did a great job portraying it. I guess I shouldn't be surprised, it was essentially the same response she had to her mom on Veronica Mars....... That's a good way of looking at what Eleanor did with her mom--not "over it" but able to move past it. I couldn't do it with my mother, even in my 60s, because she continued to be toxic until the end of her life (even sent me a final letter basically cursing my existence). At least Eleanor's mom seemed to be no longer cruel.
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    S03.E08: The Worst Possible Use of Free Will

    I love both characters and agree with all your reasons about why they are soulmates, but (UO here) I see them as platonic soulmates rather than as passionate lovers. The declaration of love in the bed scene just didn't ring true to me, for those reasons. I feel that Chidi and Simone have had more potential lover chemistry than Chidi and Eleanor. I know most viewers ship Chidi and Eleanor, but one of the things I love about this show is the focus on developing true friendship and supporting your friends even when it is not easy. Making Chidi and Eleanor romantic soulmates takes away from that focus for me. (Note that I am not saying you can't be romantic/passionate soulmates who are also best friends--my husband and I have that kind of relationship--but I'm just not feeling the romance and passion between Chidi and Eleanor.)
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    S01.E10: Silence Lay Steadily

    I think her confessing was part of the necessary "facing your demons" (literally and metaphorically) process that they all had to go through in order to move forward with their lives. But I agree that it was outrageous to make Kevin comfort and support her while she confessed, like she was the victim.
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