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  1. spanana

    General Gabbery: DWTS

    I'm not arguing that Maks/Meryl didn't egg fans on...but again, these are middle aged women who I'd hope would be able to see through it. I get the teenagers falling for this crap, but it's not like it wasn't hard to see through the Maks/Meryl thing. I'm also not for the slut shaming of Alexis. That's not cool. But I don't really feel sorry for her if some of the shippers are now mad at her or calling her fake or whatever. If you are going to choose to showmance and play into all of that bs, then it's also going to be on you when the wool gets pulled from the fans eyes. Also fans don't take well to people getting off the show and badmouthing the experience, unless it's a celeb that was obviously screwed over in some way. It also probably doesn't help matters that she's endlessly talking about the show or posting vague messages on social media while Alan has just remained quiet and gone about his business. It's similar to the implosion the Janelskiy fans had at both Janel and Val after Janelskiy imploded post show. If you are going to play that publicly, then don't be mad when it blows up in your face and generally the pissed off are going to choose sides. Most of the Maksyl fans chose Meryl and hate Maks. Janelskiy fans went both ways. Most of the Alexis/Alan shippers clearly chose him. I've also noticed from Milo's social media that he does seem to have quite a lot of female friends, which is not remotely a judgment. Just that he posts instagram stories from school a lot and he's always surrounded by friends, both male and female. He generally seems like a social guy. As for Alexis, I thinks she's just young and fairly immature and kind of has this fantasy instagram life right now, which is probably not a sustainable lifestyle long term. I don't particularly think she knows what she wants, which is normal enough at her age, but I do think she wants a man that doesn't have a regular 9-5 job so that they are free to travel with her across the world on a whim.
  2. spanana

    General Gabbery: DWTS

    A good example were the Maksyl shippers. I'd argue the majority of that fanbase were middle aged women and they were the ones that had blogs and tumblr pages devoted to all things Maksyl. I tend to think shippers fall into two camps with DWTS. There are actual teenagers that ship (probably up to college-ish age), but I'd argue they tend to ship the younger couples and the younger pros. So these are the fans that are obsessed with the Alans and Jennas and Witneys and etc. Except they don't spend as much time on the non-DWTS attached pros. Meaning they may love Witney & Lindsay and their partnerships but aren't going to be obsessed with their non DWTS husbands So they love shipping the Valennas and Hayley/Derek and whatever couples present themselves each season...like an Alexis/Alan or a Janelskiy. Then there are the middle aged women, who are usually the ones obsessed with Derek or Maks/Val, maybe Mark. And they do ship. As said, Maksyl is the big example I can think of but they certainly will ship pros. Valenna people I presume run on both sides since Jenna appeals to the young kids but the older fans love Val. Val himself tends to be controversial with the younger fans for well, his mouth. Anyway, Alexis and Milo were both on Nikki Glaser's show today and Alexis is really trying to rewrite history I guess. Putting aside whether or not the Alan thing was fake, she's now acting like she hated the show and didn't enjoy the experience at all. Except this is the same woman that got a 27 tatted on herself as soon as the season ended. She also said or implied that she and Alan didn't work out because he couldn't make time for her. The implication being that it was either her or the tour and Alan chose the tour...which duh. It's his job. Also sort of ick that Nikki made a comment that she thought Milo/Alexis will date sometime after he's 18. I also find it interesting that people have no problem making comments like that but would be freaking out if we were talking about a 17 year old young woman and a slightly older male. It's not that I have any issue with Alexis/Milo being friends but let's can it on shipping them. Even the teenage shippers seem to know better than to ship Alexis/Milo.
  3. spanana

    General Gabbery: DWTS

    Something still doesn't add up. Especially since Jenna phrased it something about giving her a second chance, which also implied that it was on Val to forgive Jenna for something or other. She might have given him an ultimatum, but Val couldn't process said ultimatum without brother Maks to tell Val that Jenna was his it girl? If Val wasn't able to draw that conclusion on his own, I wouldn't be marrying him. Then again, I don't have to fortunately. Hopefully for Jenna's sake, Val will fully see this through and she won't be left heartbroken with a few kids in a couple of years time.
  4. spanana

    In The Media: DWTS

    He also comes off like he has no desire to be there, which he probably doesn't. Since the guy claimed bankruptcy a few years ago, I'm sure he just needed the paycheck. On the feeds he claims he has all these projects in the works, but unlikely. Also while this is not a reason to not like the guy or for proof of him being an ass, the weirdest thing about Joey Lawrence to me is that he refuses to let himself age and so makes himself look weirder as a result. He still dresses like he's 20, probably does things to his face since a lot of his skin seems unable to move, draws on his hair/eyebrows, etc. You aren't fooling anybody dude. You would probably be a good looking middle aged guy if you just left it alone instead of trying to pretend you aren't aging.
  5. spanana

    In The Media: DWTS

    And Cheryl hasn't said a word about either. I honestly have wondered about Cheryl's relationship with the Lawrence family, but I've heard lots of things about Joey being a diva and a big pain in the ass. He also might have certain political leanings, but I'm not 100% sure about that. However Cheryl is always posting when she and Matt are hanging with her family and not vice versa. Either she doesn't post when she is with his family or they don't spend a lot of time with them. She and Matt always go on vacation with her family, though her family I think probably has a lot more dough for fancy vacations. Joey I believe declared bankruptcy a few years ago. Plus I always go back to S3 where there was a lot of behind the scenes gossip about how one of the celebs was hated on set. At this point I forget the specifics since it was so long ago, but the consensus at the time was that it was about Mario since Mario Lopez could also come off like a super douche. Then I feel like a few years later something pointed to the fact that none of it was about Mario at all, but rather Joey Lawrence. Which I could totally buy. He seems like an odd dude.
  6. spanana

    General Gabbery: DWTS

    Oh, IMO Janel definitely fell for Val and fell hard. She's recently married and seems happy, but prior to that she was definitely a serial dater and by that I mean, she strikes me as the type that needs to be in a relationship at all times. Which nothing wrong with that if that is what you choose to do, but if she broke up with someone, she moved on quickly. She also seems the type to fall hard and fast. Yes, she for sure took part in the showmance aspect of all of it, but I think Janel genuinely got caught up in the feelings of all of it and as we've also seen with Val, when he wants to give someone attention, he will give them his full attention. I also agree I think they hooked up to some degree, even if Val is now calling the whole thing fake. But even now, while I do think a lot of it was fake on Val's part, I also don't know if he's just trying to rewrite history and say nothing happened on his end because he's trying to appease his fiancee's ego. Especially since this all happened during one of their many off stages. So keep in mind since the Valenna love story is being rewritten as true love since day one, the Janelskiy thing falls after their initial dating period, but I think before they picked up a 2nd time. Also funny on the Val/Jenna front is Jenna recently posted a happy bday post to Maks, which no big deal in itself. But as most things Jenna, she somehow made the post about herself and she basically thanked Maks for her relationship because she said that Maks is the one that convinced Val that she was the one and that convinced Val to give her a second chance. Now this is all paraphrased and of course all the little kids swooned at this display of family love, but what? Why are you admitting that your fiancee basically didn't want to be with you until his brother convinced him you were the right one? That is not flattering to you, your fiancee or your relationship. Kind of a weird flex.
  7. spanana

    General Gabbery: DWTS

    Well rumor is that Artem and Nikki Bella are now dating. I think some of it is on her reality show even though I guess they are both publicly denying being a thing, but they pretty obviously are from context clues outside of her show. But they didn't do the whole showmance thing on the show obviously, so it's not remotely the same situation. All you need to know is that a lot of the Renten (Alexis/Alan) shippers were also Janelskiy (Janel/Val) shippers, so you would also think they learned their lesson. That said, many former Janelskiy shippers still act like Janel/Val was a real thing before it imploded, despite the fact that Val has full out said that he was always faking it but just didn't bother to tell Janel. Classy guy he is. Though this shipper meltdown is boring compared to Janelskiy. Then we got clear subtweeting between Janel and Val. I just remember Janel posting "I know what's real now" and Val said some stuff about her. There was lots of maturity involved. If you're going to have a showmance, at least have it end in epic flames.
  8. spanana

    General Gabbery: DWTS

    I don't put much stock in twitter follows just in the sense that most of the youngins are far more invested in instagram. Most of these "kids" barely tweet, so I think instagram follows are generally a bigger deal in that age bracket. It's probably the choice social media platform at the moment. That said, Alexis did unfollow Alan so whether that was real or calculated, she is at the very least pretending that they cut ties. Whatever it is though, Alan seems to be ignoring publicly and just dong his regular tour thing and hanging with his friends.
  9. spanana

    In The Media: DWTS

    Not only The Masked Singer (and I'm pretty sure there are a lot of DWTS peeps on there that haven't been revealed yet), but Celeb Big Brother just started and it's also a DWTS cavalcade. Jonathan Bennett, Ryan Lochte, Joey Lawrence, Tamar Braxton, Lolo Jones...that might be it or I might be forgetting someone.
  10. spanana

    General Gabbery: DWTS

    I don't think Alexis is dumb necessarily. I think she's weirdly naive and seems very lost. As for the Alan thing, she has since unfollowed Alan on social media. He hasn't reciprocated. She's also supposedly posted some vague things perhaps implying that he hurt her? Not sure as I mostly got this from their shippers who are getting their little hearts broken, but IMO I do think there were some sort of feelings there. But I don't think Alan hurt her by any means. I get the impression that Alexis likes men that are free to follow her around the world on her trips and who don't hold down the types of jobs that require staying in spot for awhile. Hence, not having time for her. Meanwhile Alan is on a 3 month tour and of course he's not going to give up his DWTS gig to be a social media influencer with her. Anyway, also in relation to tour, while the show still seems to draw large crowds in the audience, one thing I've noticed is that supposedly the meet and greet and mingles aren't having great turnouts. I presume that means folks are willing to shell out money to attend the show, but don't care enough to shell out additional money to meet the pros/celebs. I honestly don't totally know the difference between M&G and mingle, but in some cities they have combined the two things since not enough people have had VIP tickets. I think M&G is just standing in line for a picture and mingle is a couple of pros hanging around with the VIP people and chatting. I'm not sure if that shows waning interest in the show, lack of disposable income/too high ticket prices, or they have done the tour so many times now that the types of super obsessed DWTS fans that would buy VIP are over it so they have probably already done it several times. I also think it probably doesn't help to have the revolving door of celebs on tour so people are only going to want to see the celebs they like. The tour show seemed its most cohesive when Milo was there for a few weeks. It also sounds like plenty of the people at the shows are still pissed about Bobby so his presence here and there might not help. People are bitter. Also speaking of bitter, Bobby and Sharna are still on their let's fight the haters thing. But on Bobby's radio show, Sharna did imply that there were definitely pros/celebs that weren't happy about their win or who didn't congratulate them. And of course Sharna did her whole...I am always happy for whoever wins so I don't get why people are acting this way routine, but at least Bobby/Sharna were smart enough not to name names when pressed. Of course it opened the door to speculation and who hadn't congratulated them online. I suspect Cheryl is one since she's fairly no nonsense, is probably still pissed about JP, and I don't think she much cares about kissing ass to a bunch of pros she's not close to anyway. Some think maybe Witney for obvious Milo reasons, but it's all speculation. Also I don't really care if somebody doesn't bend over backwards to congratulate them. There is a big difference between just not saying anything versus actual badmouthing, etc.
  11. spanana

    General Gabbery: DWTS

    Yes, I did love that. I do admit my one guilty pleasure about tour is not the tour itself, but the behind the scenes social media posts and I like to get a sense of who hangs with who and etc. The tour numbers I have no desire to watch, the behind the scenes hanging out, yes. I did notice at least the first few days they all seemed to be hanging out like a big happy family minus the engaged couple that seem to be keeping to themselves. Also since I'm only going based on what others paying closer attention to the tour dances are saying, it actually sounds like Britt is the female pro that is in the most numbers, but there is a difference between being in a number and being the featured dancer in a number or having a duet. So Britt was the female pro in the most numbers but Jenna is unshockingly the female pro being featured in the most numbers (meaning she has the most featured duets and such). Alan is the male pro in the most numbers. I think Emma may be the female pro in the least amount of numbers but Hayley featured the least. Again meaning Hayley may be in more numbers but she's not the featured dancer whereas in Emma's dances the focus is usually on her. Not sure how much any of it matters, but you can tend to see Mandy's biases. I still have to assume if Val isn't in a lot of numbers that is due to his own request. Keeping in mind that the tour is still in the first handful of shows so numbers may be added/deleted as we go and especially as different celebs cycle in and out. Also not sure it was mentioned here but both John and Mary Lou dropped out of tour for "scheduling" reasons so I think JP and Milo picked up some extra tour dates and they dragged Rashad out to host a few shows. Have no idea what happened with John and Mary Lou. I also just always assumed that usually those that wanted the dance captain spots were the pros with less seniority or still in troupe that needed to kiss ass or go above and beyond to either maintain their spots or get promoted. Or those that wanted to kiss ass to Mandy. Again, nothing wrong with it...somebody has got to do it.
  12. spanana

    General Gabbery: DWTS

    I think Jenna has been the dance captain on every tour that she's gone on. I did hear that she and Brandon are sharing it this time, but it's never been clear to me if it's something that pros angling for brownie points and pro spots volunteer to do and/or if they get voted into those positions by the other pros. Because I'm sure most of the more experienced pros don't have any desire to do such things since I think it mostly involves running the dance rehearsals/run throughs on tour, making sure everyone gets where they need to be on time, sending texts about call times and etc. Kudos to them I guess for doing it and it probably makes more sense to split it up amongst two people but I always think it's funny when people act like it's a big honor. I doubt most want the extra work so they probably don't encourage anyone to vote for them.
  13. Teenagers are children. 13-14 is a child. So yes, I will refer to a 13-14 year old as "still a child" because they are still a child.
  14. spanana

    General Gabbery: DWTS

    There has also been a change over the last year or more re: how Val is marketing himself. All of a sudden, he for the most part only makes joint media appearances with Jenna where they can talk about their relationship, engagement and whatever. In terms of Dance With Me, Val and co's studios, they are being marketed together in appearances to teach classes and etc. I'm sure to some extent he's being asked on shows to talk about his engagement and etc. but my point I guess is they are deliberately marketing themselves as a duo for press opportunities, appearances and other things and since Val has a lot of clout at DWTS I think he can easily pull a "I will only do x if we both get y" type of thing. As for Mandy, look no further than tour. The tour just started and from what I see people saying it sounds like somehow Jenna has the most featured dances of everyone. Weirdly people are saying Val doesn't have many, but I'm going to assume if he doesn't that is his own choice for whatever reason. Most of the tour is choreographed by Mandy. Which also shows because outside of random celeb numbers from the season, all the numbers are so same old same old. A female pro routine that looks like every other female pro routine. A male pro routine that looks like every other male pro routine. It's so unimaginative, but the audiences seem to like it which I guess is all they care about. I get Jenna is maybe the strongest technician but that doesn't necessarily matter in shows like this. You put the most recognizable/popular people on the most.
  15. But she wants it because that is the environment she was raised in. She was raised to want the fame. Just because she and Tripp responded differently to their upbringings in terms of the personalities they put out there, doesn't make Alanna any less of a victim of her own family. Alanna never consented, at least at an age of to know what the heck she was doing, to be on any of those shows. It was thrust upon her, whether she enjoyed it or not. She never had the experience of just being a regular child. Which again, if she's been a pushy brat since Toddlers & Tiaras, is it okay to blame a tiny child for acting out based on the way she was raised? So because her family and producers and whoever think the attitude Alanna has cultivated is charming, and by turn that has been ingrained in her since birth, is it any wonder she has internalized it and continued to run with said persona? She's been given positive reinforcement for that persona since being tiny, so of course she still does it. IMO Alanna is fair game when she is an adult and by that time should hopefully be able to figure out what she does or doesn't want in terms of attention or otherwise. But at this point she is still a child and a child who has profited in her life and for her family (financially) by acting a certain why. No kid should have to carry being a cash cow for their family. So my point is, and I promise I'll leave it alone after this, is allowances shouldn't be made for some kids and not others. To feel bad for Mack and Tripp fore being forced in front of the cameras while open deriding another child for the same reason doesn't wash for me. And no, even if Alanna wanted to do DWTS Jrs and people say the decisions was all hers (as it probably wasn't for Tripp), she didn't really consent herself since she's a minor.
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