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  1. Happy Harpy

    Season 8: Speculation and Spoilers Discussion

    I doubt there will be a serious or lasting conflict between Jon and Dany for this very reason. Had they already talked of marriage before the reveal, I'd be more worried. But with the perfectly logical solution starring as the elephant in the room, it seems like a non-issue.
  2. Happy Harpy

    Season 8: Speculation and Spoilers Discussion

    Claims and actual power are two different things. Stannis had a better claim than Renly, and yet the lords mostly declared for the latter and gave him more power. I'll wait and see before judging, re: the heir to the Iron Throne. It could be some "in your face" formulation used for the season finale and maximum impact. Sam does repeat it in 8x01, yet he has an obvious emotional bias at that moment. Book purists have been fighting for 20 years about Jon's claim vs Dany's claim (Aerys having declared Viserys as his heir complicates things). It isn't absolutely impossible it's mentioned on the show if there's some squabble in 8x02 between advisors especially; I could see Tyrion refer to it in order to defend Dany's rights, for example. They could also have Jon respect his word and refuse any birth right, stating that his opinion didn't change and Dany is still the most worthy to be queen in his eyes. Imo, claims won't matter in the end. If someone sits on the throne it will be similar as how Robert ended on it, someone who saved the realm and happens to have king's/Targ blood. It could be two someone, reigning as equals.
  3. Happy Harpy

    Season 8: Speculation and Spoilers Discussion

    Most of it. Among others, notably Maisie, Kit, Liam, Peter filmed until end of June/beginning of July, Lena filmed the staircases scenes last October, IIRC. It doesn't mean that Gendry will survive, but it's a bit premature imo to take his death for granted, unlike characters whose actors who didn't film much (RIP, Pod). Friki posted a video on Instagram. It seems that HBO hired a guy ("Dave the Fixer") to pretend that Friki stole the video from him; the process to sort things out should last a month, conveniently. Between this WTF "strategy" and the Jonsa stan who reported Friki to HBO so that they could prevent him from uploading his 8x01 video, this pre-season is already crazier than Aerys. 😵
  4. Happy Harpy

    Season 8: Speculation and Spoilers Discussion

    I have no idea. Joe Dempsie filmed from October to the end of May.
  5. Happy Harpy

    Season 8: Speculation and Spoilers Discussion

    Of course she was trolling. Maisie and Sophie together joke all the time during junkets. Interview of Maisie from the very end of September 2017 (so she already had read the script for S8). https://winteriscoming.net/2017/09/29/interview-maisie-williams-reveals-her-hope-for-aryas-fate-much-more/ Her "hopes" seem to fit with what we know of 8x01. Happy ending or sad ending, methinks that Arya gets herself a nice hunk at some point during the last season. Sansa, I don't know. I'm this close to believing that D&D gave her Jeyne Poole's story in (a small) part because she'll end up not paired, and what she went through would "justify" her refusing even a political union (since there are different parts of the fandom that are hell-bent on her getting hitched, for different reasons).
  6. Happy Harpy

    Season 8: Speculation and Spoilers Discussion

    It wasn't in the video. Jorah is only mentioned as present when Dany tells Sam. In 7x05, Jon said "Bran saw the NK and his army marching towards Eastwatch". Since Bran writes from WF, I always assumed that Jon and Dany knew about his powers. According to the video (6:40) the first council is organized because of Bran's info about the Wall and the dragons ("esto se merece una gran assemblea nortena"). There's Daenerys presentation, a review of the state of the Northern troops (not good) and Jon's other preocupation, apart from the troops, is warning "everyone, with ravens" that the threat's here, the wall has fallen and the NK has a dragon ("su preocupacion es de avisar a todos con cuervos de que ya llega la amenaza" etc.) (7:25). Then, Friki talks about the Northerners' reaction, Lyanna Mormont reminding Jon that they elected him not Daenerys, Jon "we need allies to face the threat of the WW", Tyrion speech announcing Cersei = upheaval, Jon "we need allies to face the threat of the WW", end of the council. So unless Friki placed the Northerner's "reaction" in a non-linear way, the night dragon and the fall of the wall are known to the Northern assembly in the beginning of the meeting. Sansa is furious that Jon "brought not only Daenerys but the Lannisters", Friki doesn't specify if it's in public or in private, but then he says "it will be the first of many assemblies"; so it could be either at the end of, or just after the meeting. Nevertheless, it's definitely after she knows about the NK already invading the North with his dragon.
  7. Happy Harpy

    Season 8: Speculation and Spoilers Discussion

    Because that's who Sansa is supposed to be. "Porcelain, ivory, steel", right? It's supposed to be her strength, we're told over and over. My favorite "badass" Sansa moment is she picking up a cup from the floor, so I don't need for her to be a warrior to like her and I don't think my expectations are too high. However, she can't be the voice of reason and of wisdom, she can't be the great diplomat and politician if she can't see the big picture or keep herself in check publicly; for 8x01 at least, she can't. The "initially" in interviews gives me hope it will change, the sooner the better. I believe they could be, and it's encouraging that after the absence of mention to other characters in season 7 they not only have scenes together but don't act like strangers. I don't remember this show ship-teasing, it's usually point A-to-point-B level of directness; except for Bronn and Tyene maybe, which had no chance of being canon. I'm more and more convinced that the scene with a Northern girl hitting on a character and another character being jealous will be about Gendry and Arya; I don't know if it's in episode 1 and it's part of the "sexual tension" Friki mentions, or if it's in episode 2. I'm also curious about the Hound/Arya, and he reproaching her with letting him die; after all in 7x07 he held no grudge. Friki didn't talk about Arya's reaction or how it's solved exactly. It's funny to see how fleakers got everything wrong, or how they came close at times (the production sheet one had a few hits, in between huge misses, LOL). OTOH, the message left by the NK (like the fact that the NK has a target, mentioned by the actor) seems to support the info provided by Boatsexbaby about the WW motivations. Since BSB and Friki disagreed about what was filmed in Seville, it's going to be interesting (it isn't impossible that both had partial info, though).
  8. Happy Harpy

    Season 8: Speculation and Spoilers Discussion

    My point in the post you quoted is that with what Sansa knows, her attitude is unreasonable. Trust goes both ways. Why can't Sansa trust Jon? Sansa doesn't know anything about Dany, indeed. Why can't she stay polite and gracious, wearing a lady's mask, while she observes and makes an educated judgement? Imo, it would be much more reasonable.
  9. Happy Harpy

    Season 8: Speculation and Spoilers Discussion

    Watching the video, I wasn't certain either whether Tyrion lying was based on his previous leaks or confirmed by his latest. He seemed pretty affirmative, not using oral precautions like on other parts of the spoilers, but my Spanish is quite rusty. I guess it depends whether his source this time has the full season at once, or only gets it episode per episode.
  10. Happy Harpy

    Season 8: Speculation and Spoilers Discussion

    The character isn't real. Sansa doesn't have a leg to stand on in the eye of the audience, who's watching the show with full knowledge and discussing it on this board. In universe? Let's see what she knows. Sansa knows that defending the North (against the AOTD) was Jon's reason for seeking an alliance with Daenerys. As of 8x01, Sansa knows through Bran's visions -which she's aware, without the shadow of a doubt, are true- that the Wall has fallen and the AOTD has started invading the North. She knows the NK has a dragon, too -and in 8x01 she has seen dragons. So she has enough knowledge to understand that alone, the North is facing annihilation. Therefore, she doesn't have a leg to stand on when she chooses petty politics versus survival, including questionning why and how Jon got the North ten thousands of men and dragons to defend it. Moreover, Sansa was OK with Littlefinger's presence because he had the Vale army, she didn't want to antagonize Glover and Royce because they had a few thousands men. Yet in 8x01, she's frosty with/antagonizes the person who brings ten thousands of men and dragons. So nope, she doesn't have a leg to stand on with what she knows either, including per her own reasoning. Jon told Sansa before that she shouldn't undermine him in public, yet she still does. I don't see what stops hers from discussing Cersei again, too; it would actually be more sensible than discussing Daenerys who isn't a problem, but an ally. There's no sticky political situation, but the one she and the Northern lords (she isn't the sole responsible) create with their unreasonable stance. (Walder Frey knew that Talisa was pregnant. Arya knows people's thoughts when she wears their face, stated in 7x06. Arya wore Walder Frey's face in 7x01. *case closed*) She isn't owed anything. Again, it was the honorable thing to do; as I said she not only agreed to help, she also suffered a loss for helping. Even if doing the right thing is often paid dearly on GoT, imo the main message is that it's still better than only thinking of calculation and taking political advantage. I also don't think that defending the North necessarily equals to defending the Northern independence; IIRC the kingdom fared better within the 7K. Jon made the best decision regarding the former, imo. Moreover, does Sansa know that Jon bent the knee after Daenerys accepted to help? It doesn't seem so. He didn't even talk about it to Davos and in the Dragonpit, he didn't mention the particulars, just that he declared himself for Dany.
  11. Happy Harpy

    Season 8: Speculation and Spoilers Discussion

    I don't get it either, I'm one of those who don't get his motivations for betraying. Tyrion did think that Cersei's only redeeming quality (joke aside) was her love for her children, so it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibilities if he actually believed that her craziness would stop at ensuring her baby's survival. Because it was the right thing to do, imo. Their whole negotiation was "fight the NK/bent the knee". Daenerys not only accepted her end of the deal, no question asked, she suffered the loss of a child. I can't imagine honorable Ned Stark's son, who follows his example and tries to abide by his principles, taking some political advantage out of a tragedy, tragedy that happened to someone decent, tragedy that happened in order to save his life. If there were feelings involved, imo they're here and not in romantic love or sexual attraction.
  12. Happy Harpy

    Season 8: Speculation and Spoilers Discussion

    This is where she doesn't have a leg to stand on. Jon is defending the North. He's never thought about anything but defend the North against the biggest threat of all, threat that is already invading it. The audience saw it for how many seasons now? They also saw Jon take his vassals' feelings into account when he refused to bend the knee, stated explicitly in 7x04, he's as far as a dictator as possible. The audience knows why Jon bent the knee to Dany. He was attracted to her (the "good heart" conversation) long before he did. He bent the knee because he recognized a worthy queen, one who would risk her children's lives to save other lives, for doing what she thought was right, instead of "doing nothing" and let people die because it was politically better for her, who accepted to defeat the NK with him without asking anything in return anymore. I want the Northerners who will survive in spite of being too stupid for it, including Sansa, to thank Jon on their knees and beg for his forgiveness and their short-sightedness and hindering his efforts. OTOH, Sansa is right not to trust Cersei. But then she should discuss with Jon about her only, not about Daenerys. And again, precisely because she doesn't trust Cersei, she should be more amenable with Cersei's rival, Daenerys. Friki "imagines" that he's lying about trusting his sister.
  13. Happy Harpy

    Season 8: Speculation and Spoilers Discussion

    Or the writers need someone to look smart for suggesting the obvious. Unless they need someone not suggesting the obvious as a hint that said someone is jealous.
  14. Happy Harpy

    Season 8: Speculation and Spoilers Discussion

    The description of Dany and Jon's passionate kiss, and some hopes being "dissolved like sugar", is hilarious. Gendry making weapons for everyone, yay. Making a multi-use dragonglass weapon for his lady, and dragonglass ax for his future surrogate father in law, awww. I'm dissolving like sugar, but in a good way, LOL. I didn't have a problem with it either, except that he seems to dump everything on Jon without taking gloves, because he's upset. I more than ever expect Jon to serve him back his pep talk about Bolton, maybe with some "when you know her" because Sam's his friend. I think that Jorah might play a role, too, since he's there when Dany tells Sam -I would love it, I really love the Jorah/Sam friendship. He still does, less carefull about it at times but "tal vez, quizas, quien sabe" are aplenty. Friki says that "she asks him why he didn't kill her". So yes, positive. It seems there will be many wightified men of the NW in the NK's army. Forget Hodor, the familiar face is probably going to be Edd 😞
  15. Happy Harpy

    Season 8: Speculation and Spoilers Discussion

    Cersei's shot in the trailer with her glass of wine and tears in her eyes could be after she sleeps with Euron in 8x01. Friki says it should be "a bit traumatic" and remind her of when she laid with Robert and she didn't want it. She still has her tongue, since she argues with Euron on the boat.
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