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    The Flash in the Media

    The Flash probably needs multiple villains teaming up against him in a coordinated effort to bring him down. That could last a whole season if they did it right. They also need to shake up the Team Flash thing. Or they need to try for a few standalone arcs that don't link up to one big bad. They need a villain like Tempus on Lois & Clark - he injected so much life into that show after Lex was gone.
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    The Flash in the Media

    She's right behind Michael Vlamis (Michael from Roswell)!! *fangirls and faints*
  3. Did you guys know that Todd Helbing has been replaced by a black male EP as showrunner? Eric Wallace is taking over. https://www.newsarama.com/44274-the-flash-gets-new-showrunner-for-season-six.html I hope what people speculated before isn't true - that he's the reason behind downplaying Iris/Barry - I have to admit, while a lot of fans were happy and excited about this, I was nervous. Having black male writers doesn't always translate to better stories and protection for black women characters. Sometimes, you get even more deification of white women characters and ugliness for the black women characters. Look at Sleepy Hollow. In the final season with Abby, when fans complained about racist tropes, the black male writer on the show vociferously defended the racist writing. So I dunno. The only good thing going for Eric Wallace is that some of his episodes have been pretty great for Iris/Barry.
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    S01.E09: Songs About Texas

    Personally - since erasure (under-utilization) is such a huge deal with how they write black women characters and how it's actually just tokenism, no, under-utilization is just as bad as mis-use. Tokenism doesn't help. It means the character has no equity and it's empty. It means they are never centered. It's 2019. Can we stop erasing black women in narratives now? I'd rather not deal with the pain of seeing her erased like this - especially if that's why they cast her as black in the first place (even if it was unconscious on their parts). I will reiterate a point I made earlier that may have gotten buried - I think that the M&M banter is needed. It's the only levity besides Cam the show has and that's been missing. It's hurting the show to have it take itself so seriously. Both Kyle and Alex (who used to be funny on the OGshow and Alex was funny in the books) are not funny at all - they come off really stiff to me (though Alex is growing on me). Michael is funny - and even funnier in scenes with Maria. Max has his moments. Isobel has dark comedic timing... but honestly - without the M&M hilarious banter - I don't think this show will make it. It's so dark that it needs levity to pull it out of the deep dramatic hole it dug early on in the season.
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    S01.E09: Songs About Texas

    Hmmmm I guess I was trying to say that if they were going to erase her as you've so eloquently described them as doing (that's our complaint btw), they they shouldn't have made her black. Unless that was the whole plan in the first place. With Julie Plec's track record - they have to prove (to me at least) that wasn't their plan from the start. And not for nothing but I HATE that they've put two marginalized groups in the position of having to resent the other for their ship sailing. I remember being excited when Maria was cast and thinking wow - my favorite show franchise EVER will have an interracial pairing! Then I found out about M&A and was like - wow that's great for them - but I suddenly felt like (as a black woman) that I'd been slapped in the face... like "Oh... that's why they cast her... so no one would complain or care when they erased her." I hate that feeling.
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    S01.E09: Songs About Texas

    I wonder if they made Rosa look as difficult as possible to explain why Liz was so focused on being "perfect" in comparison. One thing I totally connected to in Liz during that speech by Max about how she tried to be perfect in the eyes of her parents, society (model minority!!!) so she would be accepted and loved - when Max told her that she didn't have to be - that he saw her flaws and loved her anyway - that got to me. That was beautiful. Everything Max said about Liz - about her having to present perfection to others, make sure she's credited for being smart (because so often that can be dismissed if you don't assert it), etc... that whole model minority thing really hit and touched a nerve deep inside of me - Max speaking directly to those anxieties made me swoon.
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    S01.E09: Songs About Texas

    Wow - it is crazy how we can see things so differently. I've never seen Tyler in anything else, so I had nothing to compare it too. I just remember feeling the trailer sex scene being awkward - and it wasn't until I saw how fluid M&M seemed to be with one another that I figured it must be MV. Apparently I need to go do more research, lol - not like that's a burden, lol!
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    S01.E09: Songs About Texas

    Like another said, if the showrunners don't want her to be important narratively, that's their prerogative. But because that's her canon importance in both the books (which this is based on) and the OGShow and she had a huge fan following from both, it does stink to suddenly erase her just as they made her a black woman. This showrunner talks a huge game about "do no harm" in terms of not wanting to write negative tropes about LGBTQ characters - but then she racebends Maria and dumps a pile of really bad racial tropes on her and the fandom? It looks horribly bad to racebend Maria, erase her and then take away her narrative importance - almost like you're sabotaging the character to undermine her popularity in order to prop up the couple you replaced her twice canon couple with. And - not for nothing, but since Maria has been canon with Michael both in the books and on the show, I'd say while she's not to the level of Max/Liz, she's kinda up there and close to that level in terms of importance. Even in the books when she and Michael didn't come together fully until the last book (even though they were still joined at the hip anyway), they still had that familiar banter and relationship (though not as cutting as on the OG show). And just like folks wouldn't think of erasing Lois Lane and Superman together, why erase Maria? Why reduce her to an interloping plot device? And why make her black to do it? It makes me wish they hadn't race bent her - because I HATE seeing women who look like me get shafted on shows like this - especially since this happens so much in Julie Plec's universe of shows. And as many of you know - I warned about this from the start. I wanted to be wrong, too. I still hope I am. But if Maria/Michael had been given equal bantering time against Malex time from day one - the fanbase would be clamoring for a lot more of M&M. It's not like this show didn't give us a TON of Max/Cameron pretty damn early on (episode 2). But that didn't happen with M&M and Malex. Based on how the show has literally erased Maria - I no longer think that was a coincidence - I think that was the plan all along to give Malex more time to solidify and to drive away fans (look at the ratings) who were hoping for M&M magic. That's why TPTB didn't care that Heather Hemmons had other committments. To them, that was a feature. Not a bug.
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    S01.E09: Songs About Texas

    I agree wholeheartedly with this. It's made me really angry to see Maria portrayed almost like she's on Cam's level - when she should have more narrative importance than Cam (and Kyle and at least even w Alex). But right now? Oh she's just a friends with benefits situation w Michael as an interloper?? So wrong. I'm so mad at TPTB - I feel like they intentionally marginalized Maria to undercut her popularity so they could build Malex up without Maria and M&M fans constantly clamoring for M&M (I don't care about her schedule - if they wanted Maria to be prominent from day one they would have gotten an actress who didn't have conflicts - though I love HH in the role). What's really sad is that TPTB/Carina did that to the show's detriment because the sarcastic and funny Maria was desperately needed on this show - and having her play off of Michael the way she did was truly needed. Two pairs of angsty couples just doesn't work. It's why M/L and M&M worked so well on the OG show. Here, we've got angsty Malex AND angsty M/L - good grief where is the humor? Halfway through last night's episode I realized I hadn't laughed that hard ALL SEASON since that one "Are you sassing Jesus?" line. That's INSANE for a show calling itself Roswell. The books AND the OG show used humor to balance out. Further - I felt like the whole "cosmic connection" thing with Michael and Alex to be a complete and total copout for why we never got much real dialogue between the two of them - just weird, clipped and awkward single phrase lines that make NO sense now after seeing the flashback episode. Unless some foolishness happened after Rosa died - but if it did, it feels like the show has decided to forget about it. Which makes the M&A lack of dialogue (and weak dialogue) in the few scenes they got feel silly and just oddly antagonistic. That TPTB are trying to pass that off now as "cosmic connection" (never mind snatching yet ANOTHER element from Max/Liz's canon importance) is irking me. So apparently, Max has to have solid evidence and cause to feel the way he does about Liz or else it's unrealistic, but I'm supposed to buy Malex as cosmic, because? Yeah nope. Finally - while I do believe Malex has angsty, sexual chemistry when they are looking into each other's eyes and kissing, this does not translate (yet) to their sex scene. That scene in the trailer was stilted, jerky and awkward. I'm not sure if it was because Michael Vlamis looked like he was counting direction beats in his head (kiss Alex... pause... then turn him around... pause ... now toss him on bed... exhale to steel yourself... now jump on him) or what, but I was struck by how his scene with Maria was NOT stilted or awkward. It was fluid because MV wasn't overthinking. It's like watching a figure skater connect elements in a program. You can't pause between elements or you don't get all the points. Michael (Vlamis) paused in his scenes with Alex in the trailer, but there was zero pausing with Maria once both of them got over the shock of kissing each other. Thus the former was jerky and the latter fluid. Although Malex still gets major points from me from when Alex dragged his finger across Michael's mouth - whew - that was scorching hot. Hopefully Vlamis gets more comfortable with Tyler for future scenes or I won't be able to not notice the stiltedness. Maybe they need Shiri as director? Dunno.
  10. "Eventually I'll get to an appendage you actually care about." "Is everyone in this town in love with Max Evans?" "And you're always muttering in Spanish, like it's some secret language that no one understands but you, but hello, we're in New Mexico, we all speak Spanish!" "To a bar, obviously." "It's the jalopeño room... real spicy..." "Please tell me you're not trying to navigate by the stars." "Ohhhh I can lead the way, De Luca. I'm one with the desert De Luca! I'm basically a coyote, De Luca!"
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    S01.E08: Barely Breathing

    The one where she tried to mindwarp Liz - when they were all at the drive in movie spot.
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    S01.E09: Songs About Texas

    Shiri didn't write the episode, so other than how the lines were delivered and the direction, she wouldn't impact plot that way, would she? I do think the callbacks and familiar M&M banter was her (or at least the style of it), but the River Dog thing - that's definitely TPTB ripping off the old show and twisting it (because there was no alien-Native American connection in the books). Plus we've got Rosa's death being like Alex's death putting Max/Liz at odds. And Noah/Isobel feeling a lot like Jesse/Isobel (although I'm convinced Noah is the 4th alien or FBI Alien Hunters R US). Having Alex/Kyle and Cam running Project Shepherd is the only thing that feels truly original (that and the pod thing). I do wonder what it meant that the old alien Mrs. RiverDog mentioned was a healer and that she could die now because "he is coming". And then Max, Michael and Isobel came out of their pods presumably right when she died? I can't wait to learn what that's about. I feel an alien prophecy coming on (*titters excitedly*). Also - did Jim Valenti die before or after Rosa? After, right?
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    S01.E08: Barely Breathing

    Actually Isobel tells Michael that she felt what Liz was feeling - for Max. That's when she realized Liz did love Max, "deep down".
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    S01.E09: Songs About Texas

    So how should we split them? Mondays, Wednesdays Fridays? #BlindDate LOL. And Michael Vlamis is a damn National Treasure. And OH MY GOD I just realized that Michael and Maria are THE SAME! Maria went into a Michael-esque rant. "Please tell me you're not trying to navigate by the stars." "Ohhhh I can lead the way, De Luca. I'm one with the desert De Luca. I'm basically a coyote, De Luca." Hahahahaha! She sounds JUST LIKE Michael! I could watch a WHOLE ass episode of the two of them bickering back and forth. If they don't ever get back together I hope we get to keep that hilarious banter.
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    S01.E09: Songs About Texas

    This is the first episode though where there were multiple quotes we could pull that were funny in that OGshow way. "Eventually I'll get to an appendage you actually care about." "Is your type angry cowboy?" "I dunno ... wizard murderer?" "Is everyone in this town in love with Max Evans?" "And you're always muttering in Spanish, like it's some secret language that no one understands but you, but hello, we're in New Mexico, we all speak Spanish!" "To drink at a bar, obviously." "It's the jalopeño room... real spicy..." LOL - I didn't even get to all of them.
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