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    Season 8: Speculation and Spoilers Discussion

    Dany teaching Jon to ride a dragon is making me lol. How romantic it would be, to bond while learning to use weapons of mass destruction and lamenting the fact that they are so extraordinary and unique because they're Targaryens. "Nobody understands how special we are, Jon. Isn't it so sad how we have to keep reminding them with our pet WMDs?" What would you like to see, what would be more exciting? Jon brazenly getting atop a dragon and soaring in the sky and struggling to figure out how not to die, or Dany patiently giving Jon a lesson on this beforehand?
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    Sansa Stark: A Direwolf In Sheep's Clothing?

    Jon was oppressed by classist Sansa? More like, Jon was a moody emo bitch in Book 1. He's offended by everything. He's written that way for character development. He has to grow a thicker skin. In Book 5 he's effectively using "bastard" and "Lord Snow" as his armor. Jon isn't "oppressed" by not being able to eat with his family or escort the royal family. As Donal reminds Jon, he's a castle raised bastard which is a far better life than any of the smallfolk had. And as Gendry reminds Arya, at least Jon knew his father and got to live in a castle. And Mel gives him a similar privilege check in S6. I dont know how else the author is supposed to show us that the "class system has teeth" otherwise. Jon's siblings also reinforce his bastard status too. Bran constantly refers to him as "his bastard brother." And funnily enough Arya snaps back at Gendry: "We'll you're nothing but a bastard boy!" Wow imagine that - Arya using someone's bastard status as an insult. The arguments that Jon never thinks of Sansa aren't really proving anything except reinforcing Jonsa theories. He's not supposed to fall in love with his "favorite sister."
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    Sansa Stark: A Direwolf In Sheep's Clothing?

    Just adding on here but I do know that George called Ayra a psychopath in this interview.
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    Season 8: Speculation and Spoilers Discussion

    Dwarfism is real, spinal cord injuries are real, amputations are real, PTSD is real, but Dany's infertility is fake? Do ya'll know how crazy that sounds? Some women miscarry, some women cant have kids. This is life.
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    Season 8: Speculation and Spoilers Discussion

    I have never read a story where a woman who thought she was infertile actually wasnt because it was ONLY her nephew's magic sperm that could fix her womb right up. And while I have read stories where people lived with physical problems without a cure EXCEPT for the magical heroine, these stories usually suck. Generations of incest increase risk of infertility. I could cite stuff but thats not necessary, there's a lot out there in science journals. Charles II was infertile and scientists have linked that to his inbreeding coefficient. So went the Hapsburgs. The infertility problems seemed to increase for the Targaryens as the inbreeding coefficient increased. Dany's mom had multiple stillbirths and miscarriages. My take on this is, the author is giving the Targaryens consequences for their choices to inbreed like they did. Their Doctrine of Exceptionalism comes with a price. All incest dynasties end, usually no longer than the 300 year mark. Ironically, "breaking the wheel," Dany's own plans, doesnt involve a Targaryen restoration with a special baby who is the next Targaryen hope. Why did they write that in then? Just to have Dany look like a hypocrite in the future? If she doesn't want to do that, Dany should send her child (if she even has one) to the Citadel or Nights Watch like Aemon.
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    Season 8: Speculation and Spoilers Discussion

    Tendency to miscarry could be a sign of infertility. Infertility can still mean ability to get pregnant. As for those scenes, there are different interpretations of what the show is setting up. Usually they set up stuff to crush peoples hopes, characters and audiences alike. And far too many people are hoping for it. These are the guys who stabbed a pregnant woman in the stomach for the shock value.
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    Season 8: Speculation and Spoilers Discussion

    Like I said, its unclear if its a prophecy or an assessment of Dany's physical state, a figure of speech, or the author inserting a way to tell the reader this info. But if it is a prophecy, Cersei also had her fortune read by a witch and children were discussed, and that came to pass. Dany is far too magical already. Dany being fire proof is fantastical. Dany walking out of a fire unhurt is fantastical. Dany hatching and riding dragons is--you get the idea. Dany being infertile is realistic. Its realistic considering she's the child of multiple generations of incest. It is realistic in a story where everyone has physical or mental problems that cant be "fixed." I know I may be throwing cold water on everyone's baby fever but I still think this story has a reputation for gritty realism. Thats what made it stand apart in the genre and what GRRM says is the theme of his entire life's work, fantasy wrestling with reality.
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    Season 8: Speculation and Spoilers Discussion

    It's unclear if its a prophecy or simply a figure of speech. The last part could be Mirri's assessment as a midwife. And anyway, my personal take is that she won't have a child (that lives). Bran can't use his legs. Dany can't have children. Sometimes people just have physical problems they cant overcome. This story is very brutal about things but I appreciate that harshness in a fantasy story. Dany having a child is about as fantastical as Bran walking again.
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    Season 8: Speculation and Spoilers Discussion

    I agree, if Mel thinks she "brought ice and fire together," when its like...okay Mel is wrong as usual. She doesn't even know that Jon himself is ice and fire. Why is a special ice and fire baby necessary when there is already one, Jon, the guy we've been watching for seven seasons? One could argue that his parents fulfilled one criteria for the Pact of Ice and Fire in the books, a Targaryen/Stark marriage, so even Lyanna + Rhaegar could fit the ice and fire thing--they just caused a lot of destruction together. Which Jon and Dany will probably continue to do, if S7 is anything to go by.
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    Season 8: Speculation and Spoilers Discussion

    I guess its just this unique case, of a parentage reveal, why Jon is singled out and the protection idea from Lyanna being emphasized. GRRM has said he doesnt write about characters being protected by their destiny, so I would imagine his destiny (whatever it is) doesn't make him safe.
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    Season 8: Speculation and Spoilers Discussion

    Death is coming for everyrone from multiple places, including other people: "The White Walker army will notbe the only issue our characters will have to face In Season 8. They will also have to face each other." (David Nutter). The tapestry posted doesn't mention the White Walkers. And there is #forthethrone, which puts the throne front and center. I wonder why?
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    Season 8: Speculation and Spoilers Discussion

    But shouldnt Bran be there if that was the case? I think its more about Jon's parentage reveal and what is going to happen because of that.
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    Season 8: Speculation and Spoilers Discussion

    I think its about Stark acceptance. All of the quotes relate to Jon. He needs protection after the parentage reveal, and Bran might not play as big of a role in that as Sansa and Arya will. In fact Bran's reveal puts Jon in even more danger, hence the ominous turn at the end. I dont think it means Bran=Night King.
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    Season 8: Speculation and Spoilers Discussion

    That's right. She also could have kept it for herself. There's a feather on her wrist in the following episode when Myranda talks to her. Its somewhat ambiguous if its the same feather.
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    Season 8: Speculation and Spoilers Discussion

    Sansa puts the feather back in S5.
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