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1 hour ago, configdotsys said:

Someone should explain to these guys that public assistance that the mom gets is not "free" money. The county will go after dad for all of that benefit money and garnish wages. 

I would love to see Emiley sue Diego for child support and go to court. Let Diego and his mama tell the judge-- with smirk faces intact-- that the boy needs to have fun playing football his senior year and it's not fair to make him give that up and get a job. Put them in front of Judge Judy. Sorry Diego, you had your time to be a carefree teen. You lost it when you had a kid. 

Yep - you bone, you roll the dice.  And guess what?  Sperm meet egg!  You win a baby.

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is it bad and wrong that I had a dirty dream about Caelen?  (I think he's of age...right???)

I mean, I guess he's the cutest, and the nicest...Tylor's not terrible either, but...

#dirtyoldlady #callmecaelen

Edited by teapot. Reason: he's 19 http://www.vindy.com/news/2018/aug/05/salem-couple-on-teen-pregnancy-show/
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12 hours ago, HaaCHOO said:

So under this "no extra obstacles" idea, high school boys can get as many girls pregnant as they like?  No consequences?  Just trip down the lane of high school fun: games, dances, proms, girls-girls-girls, occasional homework and tests.  Boys, you have four years to make babies for the girls to take care of...in every way.   I can't get on board with this.

No different than girls being able to get pregnant as many times as they want. Both have a choice. But trying to get to a job without a car or find an employer that will schedule around school and homework and other obligations is not always possible. Why not start the financial obligation after high school if employment poses a hardship?

 

4 hours ago, gonecrackers said:

This is good, but, can't get blood from a stone either, unless the guy is on unemployment I guess. He's got to be living off something.

It usually accrues even when the obligee isn't working. But no real way to force payment if he/she doesn't have a W2 or similar.

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4 hours ago, gonecrackers said:

This is good, but, can't get blood from a stone either, unless the guy is on unemployment I guess. He's got to be living off something.

Yeah, then it accumulates if it isn't paid.  If it goes too long without being paid, the driver's license is suspended, if it goes even longer, the person goes to jail.  Funny how the threat of going to jail makes a person cough up some dough.

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11 minutes ago, eatsleep said:

No different than girls being able to get pregnant as many times as they want. Both have a choice. But trying to get to a job without a car or find an employer that will schedule around school and homework and other obligations is not always possible. Why not start the financial obligation after high school if employment poses a hardship?

I'm still trying to figure out what hardship Diego will face if he has to get a job. Millions of teens in the U.S. have jobs in order to pay for their cell phones, cars, spending money, Starbucks, etc. I've never heard of a business schedule a worker around their homework: by high school, you should be able to prioritize and apportion your time accordingly. 

As for "other obligations," Diego's SOLE obligation is to his daughter now. He can cry all he wants about how unfair it is that he can't do what he feels like but every time he does that he should be handed a mirror and reminded that it was he who put himself into this situation, not anyone else.

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Sorry, not buying the “can’t get a part- time job” excuse— many employers are willing to give after-school and weekend hours to students. I got a retail job at 16 and still managed to keep my grades up and got into a good college. What about a summer job? Did Diego have one? Many people also work part-time in college/university as well.

Unless Diego is struggling academically, I can not see why a part-time job would prevent him from graduating high school.

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Just now, configdotsys said:

I'm still trying to figure out what hardship Diego will face if he has to get a job. Millions of teens in the U.S. have jobs in order to pay for their cell phones, cars, spending money, Starbucks, etc. I've never heard of a business schedule a worker around their homework: by high school, you should be able to prioritize and apportion your time accordingly. 

As for "other obligations," Diego's SOLE obligation is to his daughter now. He can cry all he wants about how unfair it is that he can't do what he feels like but every time he does that he should be handed a mirror and reminded that it was he who put himself into this situation, not anyone else.

Yes, Aria should come first. If Emiley has had to sacrifice furthering her education to care for her daughter, then Diego should have to make some concessions as well. No one is saying that he shouldn’ t graduate high school. However, if he is having a hard time doing schoolwork, he shouldn’t be playing sports, either. They are a huge time commitment. 

Emiley somehow managed to give birth during her senior year and complete her schoolwork to graduate— that couldn’t have been easy getting up with a newborn at night, etc. So Diego and his parents can miss me with their excuses.

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24 minutes ago, configdotsys said:

I'm still trying to figure out what hardship Diego will face if he has to get a job. Millions of teens in the U.S. have jobs in order to pay for their cell phones, cars, spending money, Starbucks, etc. I've never heard of a business schedule a worker around their homework: by high school, you should be able to prioritize and apportion your time accordingly. 

As for "other obligations," Diego's SOLE obligation is to his daughter now. He can cry all he wants about how unfair it is that he can't do what he feels like but every time he does that he should be handed a mirror and reminded that it was he who put himself into this situation, not anyone else.

If he can get one without jeopardizing his high school graduation, great. I would support that. I'm not talking about Diego in particular. I'm talking about as a general policy that mothers cannot receive any public benefits without ordering the father who is in high school to pay child support. Some kids in small towns can't work without cars. Some places aren't hiring PT. All sorts of reasons. Other obligations could include baby's pediatrician appointments, studying, receiving tutoring, watching the baby in the evening while the parent who has already graduated works or attends college, etc.

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4 minutes ago, eatsleep said:

If he can get one without jeopardizing his high school graduation, great. I would support that. I'm not talking about Diego in particular. I'm talking about as a general policy that mothers cannot receive any public benefits without ordering the father who is in high school to pay child support. Some kids in small towns can't work without cars. Some places aren't hiring PT. All sorts of reasons. Other obligations could include baby's pediatrician appointments, studying, receiving tutoring, watching the baby while the parent who has already graduated works or attends college, etc.

I don't know if the agency would make an order against someone who is younger than 18. And if they did, I'd assume they would take into account that the child father is still in school. They do ask for all your information so that would be disclosed. I wonder if they would have special circumstances in that case. 

But Diego is 18 now and I'm sure he has a car. I can't imagine him either demanding his parents get him one, or him saving up money from when he did work to get one. He has zero reasons not to be working now other than his parents want him to graduate without the pressures of working to support his child. And apparently that was the case even in the summer because Emiley posted in the FB group that he didn't help her with the bills when he was living with her. The boy's on easy street.

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24 minutes ago, Soup333 said:

I don't know if the agency would make an order against someone who is younger than 18. And if they did, I'd assume they would take into account that the child father is still in school. They do ask for all your information so that would be disclosed. I wonder if they would have special circumstances in that case. 

But Diego is 18 now and I'm sure he has a car. I can't imagine him either demanding his parents get him one, or him saving up money from when he did work to get one. He has zero reasons not to be working now other than his parents want him to graduate without the pressures of working to support his child. And apparently that was the case even in the summer because Emiley posted in the FB group that he didn't help her with the bills when he was living with her. The boy's on easy street.

Yes, but not forever. Not for much longer. He'll soon have to pay like everyone else.

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12 hours ago, Honey said:

Now that would be an interesting story line to watch.  I think it's medically necessary, she's going to end up tripping on that thing.

 

HAHAHAHA!  That will teach me to take a sip while reading this forum!

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15 hours ago, HaaCHOO said:

Chloe had NOTHING to do with getting pregnant; the boys are always to blame...solely!  I think Jessica considers that her ownteenage years were "ruined" by a pregnancy (again, some boy GOT her pregnant; she had nothing to do with it.  She's still angry and upset about that and then the same thing happens to "her baby."   Jessica's threats: I agree.  I think that has been a way of life for Jessica...might be the reason Chloe's dad left the family.  Everyone (but Chloe) had decided long ago it was just easier to give in to the Relentless Jessica.

I've considered the idea that Jessica's anger about her teenage years being ruined has turned into actual resentment toward her daughter. And now that Chloe is in the same position, Jessica will make damn sure it isn't easy for HER either. 

I'm not saying it should be easy. I just find Jessica to be very nasty and manipulative with her daughter. 

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1 hour ago, ghoulina said:

I've considered the idea that Jessica's anger about her teenage years being ruined has turned into actual resentment toward her daughter. And now that Chloe is in the same position, Jessica will make damn sure it isn't easy for HER either. 

I'm not saying it should be easy. I just find Jessica to be very nasty and manipulative with her daughter. 

I think Jessica is handling things in an immature way, and she certainly is not helping things--however, I can't expect her to be happy about Max being the father to her grandchild, nor about her 16 year old getting pregnant by the 18 year-old she was only dating for 3 months. Max, who turned out to have a criminal charge and who stated in his TH that he wanted Chloe to get pregnant?

Now allegedly Max has "put hands on" Chloe and there is a order prohibiting him from contacting Chloe except in text concerning their child--also Max may be facing jail time or a period of probation--most parents would be less than thrilled. I'm not saying that Chloe should have to walk around in sack cloth or wear a scarlet letter, but I would not be treating her with kid gloves, either. I would be helping with Ava and necessities and encouraging Chloe to keep her grades up and finish school.

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Friday Night Lights are dim now for Diego. Frederick lost in the first round of the Class A Playoffs at home. Now you can work Fridays you idiot.

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On 11/9/2018 at 10:40 AM, eatsleep said:

No different than girls being able to get pregnant as many times as they want.

Your premise is completely wrong.  What's different is Boy A can get Girl A pregnant...and then Girls B, C, D, E, and so on...within days!  Girl A can't have baby after baby after baby even in one year!  She has to wait (usually) at least nine months to pop out another one.  (Comedian Eddie Murphy has ten children proven to be his.  Not one Murphy baby-mama has even half that many.) 

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On 11/9/2018 at 2:14 PM, ghoulina said:

I've considered the idea that Jessica's anger about her teenage years being ruined has turned into actual resentment toward her daughter. And now that Chloe is in the same position, Jessica will make damn sure it isn't easy for HER either. 

I'm not saying it should be easy. I just find Jessica to be very nasty and manipulative with her daughter. 

I agree with you. 

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On 11/9/2018 at 3:04 PM, Adiba said:

Now allegedly Max has "put hands on" Chloe

I like the "allegedly."   I wonder if Chloe has never put her hands on Max...allegedly.

Edited by HaaCHOO. Reason: typo-ooh.
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6 hours ago, HaaCHOO said:

I like the "allegedly."   I wonder if Chloe has never put her hands on Max...allegedly.

Yeah, I used that word because it was Jessica who filed the protection from harassment charge and stated that Max has "put hands on" Chloe (whatever that means and who did what to whom I don't know). So in fairness, I couldn't state anything as fact.

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3 hours ago, Adiba said:

Max has "put hands on" Chloe

Yeah, Adiba...and it's technically true since they made a baby.   Someone should ask Chloe if she ever touched Max in anger and vice versa.

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On 11/10/2018 at 6:37 PM, HaaCHOO said:

Your premise is completely wrong.  What's different is Boy A can get Girl A pregnant...and then Girls B, C, D, E, and so on...within days!  Girl A can't have baby after baby after baby even in one year!  She has to wait (usually) at least nine months to pop out another one.  (Comedian Eddie Murphy has ten children proven to be his.  Not one Murphy baby-mama has even half that many.) 

The issue isn't the number of babies each can make. It's that a high school diploma is worth more than the few hundred dollars they might be able to scrape together by forcing teens to work minimum wage jobs, if doing so would put them at risk for dropping out of school. 

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