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S04.E05: Laura 2018.05.13

On 5/14/2018 at 7:20 AM, Josette said:

I enjoyed it, but I like Garret Dillahunt and his character.  I was able to tolerate Jenna Elfman.   And I would totally have stayed with that sweet man and watched movies.  I froze the screen and read his reviews of the films he "rented". 

I'm glad Morgan has a new friend and his name is John Dorie.  

You mean in the scene where they went to the store, and he went to the video rental section, he had given reviews of the movies on that sign out sheet thing? For real? If so, that is too funny.

I love the Dorie character too, and I could see he felt affectionate towards "Laura" (aka "June"), but I did not sense any of that from her towards him.

I believed it on his part, but not so much on hers - whether that was due to the script, or how the actress was playing it, or some combination of both, I don't know.

Yes, she ends up kissing him after he tells her he loves her, and she "makes the whole world feel alive," but while her kiss of him did have some chemistry and it "felt real" (to me, anyhow), there was nothing that led up to the kiss, or not much, that led me to believe she had feelings for him, or was into him.

She was rather stand-off-ish towards him the entire episode, as a matter of fact. I never would've thought she would like him back (as a romantic interest). So that was rather odd. I saw no indication she would fall for him.

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On 5/14/2018 at 11:01 AM, icemiser69 said:

Where was he getting electricity from? 

I guess they had to settle for the singing mounted fish.  I was hoping that John would find a Mr. Microphone somewhere, or that he would be using a Pocket Fisherman.

Maybe he had solar panels or a generator?

I think the survivors at Alexandria had solar panels for power, or Eugene was going to fix them so that they worked again.

Edit. Someone later in the thread said he had a wind turbine by his cabin (which I had forgotten about)

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On 5/15/2018 at 5:52 AM, oakville said:

I don't get how the place is so deserted of humans, yet 30 zombies show up out of nowhere.

They were former customers who rented videos at the store John Dorie visited, and they were out for more movies.

(Kidding.)

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On 5/16/2018 at 2:14 AM, Buttless said:

Its bad writing from people who dont even try to do their best.  Dillahunt was hitting most of his marks in this episode, and he had to play against a badly written and acted character.  She was falling in love with him by the time they were rowing to the gen store? Really? She went from silent to jokey to shrill and complaining so quickly. How many female writers do they have on this show too? Cause thats a caricature of a woman, not a real one.

There was definitely something "off" or missing with the Laura character in this particular episode, something I mentioned above in another post.

I could totally see and buy Dorie falling for her - in part because I knew she was his first human contact in a year or more - but also how the actor carried his lines, his body language around her, etc etc - but she was rather stand off-ish and borderline rude to him through out much of the show.

She seemed to spend the majority of the show finding him a little annoying or weird.

I think their relationship should have been handled or written differently, had the show writers wanted us to believe them as a couple.

I know she had her issues going on (missing her kid, etc), but I did not feel or see an organic out-working of her falling for Dorie in the episode.

The kiss she gave him towards the end seemed real in the moment but out of place, or un-expected, in the overall course of the show or their relationship.

I'm not entirely clear how long she was with  him in the cabin - was it a couple of weeks or a month or??? Doesn't seem like enough time went by for them to really fall for each other - well, with him, perhaps, since he's been alone for over a year.

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On 5/16/2018 at 10:16 PM, slf said:

. Really inconsistent. And while I get that these two could have a friendship/connection I just can't buy them as being in love. In love with what? They barely spoke to each other.

I could see it from the guy's side - due to the logic, he's been alone for over a year, and I bought it due to how the actor played it - but I agree with you on her side of the matter.

For 95% of the episode, she refused to talk much to him (for whatever the reasons), and she seemed to find him annoying or a big doofus for much of it.

I could see him slowly developing a "crush" on her as the episode went along, but only towards the very last bit did she lighten up and act nice to him (when he got up off the couch when she sat down next to him to watch TV, and she's like, "Why are you avoiding me?").

It was just an oddly written episode in terms of showing her falling for him. They didn't spend enough time on that element, or didn't write it well enough, or something, for it to be fully convincing.

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9 hours ago, DrNowsWeightScale said:

There is a species of fish called John Dory.  

The TV show character was not referring to the blue cartoon fish "Dory" in the film "Finding Nemo."

The character on the show is letting people know his name is pronounced the same as the fish, but has a different spelling: "Dorie" rather than "Dory."

More on John Dory fish on Wikipedia.

Are you sure? When this show airs in repeat, I'll watch again and pay closer attention, but I could've sworn the background goes by as he's paddling, which would suggest that the canoe is moving. 

Why on earth would a TV show fake something like that? I can't imagine it would be difficult to film two people in a canoe going down a river.

Positive. And one sure way to tell that they are faking it is to notice the water. It is impossible to paddle a canoe without disturbing the water; in fact, both the canoe and the paddle will disturb the water. No matter how carefully you move the paddle, or how smoothly the boat tracks, the water will show it... ESPECIALLY if the water is as smooth as glass, like that water was.

They faked it. And I'm OK with them faking it, I just can't believe they faked it so poorly.

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Aargh... They did not even have sex and now Dorie is moving heaven and earth to try to find her? What is so special about her?

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On 7/3/2018 at 9:21 AM, TV Anonymous said:

Aargh... They did not even have sex and now Dorie is moving heaven and earth to try to find her? What is so special about her?

I think they did.

When Laura (aka Naomi/ June) was living with him, John (Dorie) gave Laura his bed, and he was sleeping on the couch.

After John professed his love to Laura, they kissed, and the next morning he woke up alone in the bed because she had already left him, but she left the note on the table for him that said, "I love you too. I'm sorry." 

So, John goes from sleeping on the couch with Laura as his guest, to after the kiss with her, he woke up in his bed the next day - I assume that the show was dropping a hint there that yes, they slept together, at least once before she ran away from him. 

I think the show made it clear John liked her, I could see it in his character, but where I had a hard time buying it was from her.

She didn't seem to me as though she was falling in love with him. She spent most of their time together acting as though he was annoying or a huge doofus. I didn't see as much affection from her towards him as the other way around.

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