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My oncologist is adamantly opposed to bottled water.  The chemical in those bottles, when heated,  leach chemicals that mimic estrogen, the hormone that feeds certain cancers including some kinds of breast cancer.  Shipments are transported in trucks in the summer and are thus exposed to high heat.  You couldn't pay me to drink from one.

I do not miss Christopher Kimball and his smug attitudes.

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I am glad I missed it because it filled me with  rage the first time.

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The episode I found strange was the one where it took nearly two hours to poach chicken breasts. I even tried the recipe. It had merit; brining the breasts in the cooking liquid, but the excessive time and babysitting needed after brining for 30 minutes seemed stupid afterwards. I don't know who was responsible for that recipe.

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On 2/4/2018 at 9:26 PM, Kohola3 said:

My oncologist is adamantly opposed to bottled water.  The chemical in those bottles, when heated,  leach chemicals that mimic estrogen, the hormone that feeds certain cancers including some kinds of breast cancer.  Shipments are transported in trucks in the summer and are thus exposed to high heat.  You couldn't pay me to drink from one.

I use Nestle Pure Life exclusively because their bottles are BPA free.

And I recycle.  At my house we use enough bottles to finance a dinner about once a month.

I worry about other non-beverage items that are packaged in plastic, like olive oil, ketchup, and mustard.  They also get transported in the hot weather in trucks.  Are they also a hazard?  I would think they'd avoid transporting them in a very hot truck to avoid spoilage.  I guess you can find oil that's bottled in glass but it's hard to avoid plastic with a lot of things.

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6 hours ago, Yeah No said:

I guess you can find oil that's bottled in glass but it's hard to avoid plastic with a lot of things.

It is very difficult.  One thing I always do is carry a piece of foil to put between hot food and Styrofoam carryout containers. And all of my storage containers are glass.  Plastic is impossible to avoid altogether but even little things can help.

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On 2/6/2018 at 7:34 AM, Kohola3 said:

It is very difficult.  One thing I always do is carry a piece of foil to put between hot food and Styrofoam carryout containers. And all of my storage containers are glass.  Plastic is impossible to avoid altogether but even little things can help.

I just read that most ketchup and other similar bottles have always been made of a BPA-free type of plastic.  But I'm still not breathing easy!

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Anybody else old enough to remember when people would leave the house without bringing a source of water?  What savages we were.

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27 minutes ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

Anybody else old enough to remember when people would leave the house without bringing a source of water?  What savages we were.

Both pf my great grandmother always insisted everyone had water in the car and they were born in the 1880s, so no. 

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15 minutes ago, biakbiak said:

Both pf my great grandmother always insisted everyone had water in the car and they were born in the 1880s, so no. 

Maybe we were the outliers then.  I never once took a bottle of water to school, either.

 

On 2/5/2018 at 10:17 PM, Yeah No said:

And I recycle.  At my house we use enough bottles to finance a dinner about once a month.

I meant to ask you...there are places that will pay money for plastic bottles?  I've found some that will buy aluminum, but never plastic, except in states that have bottle deposits.

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6 hours ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

Maybe we were the outliers then.  I never once took a bottle of water to school, either.

Nor I.  It's a wonder we survived.  When did hydration become such a pervasive thing?

 

6 hours ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

I've found some that will buy aluminum, but never plastic, except in states that have bottle deposits.

We have bottle deposits in Michigan but not for bottled water.  Recycling is not the answer either.  It uses a lot of resources.  Buy a damn thermos.

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8 hours ago, Kohola3 said:

Nor I.  It's a wonder we survived.  When did hydration become such a pervasive thing?

We have bottle deposits in Michigan but not for bottled water.  Recycling is not the answer either.  It uses a lot of resources.  Buy a damn thermos.

That made me wonder what people like biakbiak's great grandmothers used to carry their water.  A canteen?  I swear, I've never noticed hordes of people in photos, other than soldiers during wartime, carrying a canteen like we carry bottles of water these days.  And thermoses were for hot beverages, or for something to drink with lunch, not just to carry around.

I remember noticing people drinking from torpedo-sized bottles of water in Paris in the 1980s, but nothing in the U.S. until water in little plastic bottles became a thing.

I watched what I think is a new episode, on ground beef chili.  Fortunately, it was Julia doing the cooking, so I didn't have to endure Bridget constantly saying, "I'm going to go ahead and..." but she did say something funny.  I gasped when Julia added canned pinto beans, and Bridget said, "We have Texas on line 2 about the beans."

I also thought it was interesting they used pulverized tortilla chips to tighten the chili, instead of masa.  I've always used Wick Fowler's chili mix, and thought I could just as easily do my own, but hesitated because I didn't want to have to keep masa on hand, in my limited space.  I have no problem keeping tortilla chips on hand, other than running out.

It was also nice that they were able to add the full amount of heat because they didn't have Kimball to worry about.

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11 minutes ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

It was also nice that they were able to add the full amount of heat because they didn't have Kimball to worry about.

LOL! He was such a baby about that. Though it seems he allows a bit more heat in the Milk Street recipes.

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1 minute ago, dubbel zout said:

Though it seems he allows a bit more heat in the Milk Street recipes.

Does anyone find a lot of the Milk St. recipes a little, well, bizarre?

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On 2/9/2018 at 2:10 PM, StatisticalOutlier said:

That made me wonder what people like biakbiak's great grandmothers used to carry their water.  A canteen?  I swear, I've never noticed hordes of people in photos, other than soldiers during wartime, carrying a canteen like we carry bottles of water these days.  And thermoses were for hot beverages, or for something to drink with lunch, not just to carry around.

When my grandmother came out with us for a Sunday drive back a zillion years ago she always came with a little wicker picnic basket, complete with, you guessed it - a Thermos.

She had her own version of everything we have today.  We didn't have wipes, so she brought a wet washcloth in a plastic zipper travel case.  We didn't have sanitizer, so she brought a bottle of alcohol.  And there might just be a fried chicken leg wrapped in "tin foil" if you were lucky.  Her little shopping bag was crammed like she was going on "Let's Make a Deal".  And yeah, she carried the obligatory "grandma candies".  Yeah, I'm old.

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Yes they would use canteens and thermoses for cold beverages not just hot. Also, they would frequently use mason jars.

I am going to try the porchetta that they made on the latest episode, it looked more manageable than many of the recipes out there., maybe for my Oscar party.

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14 hours ago, biakbiak said:

Also, they would frequently use mason jars.

Aah, mason jars.  That makes sense.  But I would think canteens would be better for carrying around while doing downtown errands--unbreakable, and they have a carrying strap.

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7 hours ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

Aah, mason jars.  That makes sense.  But I would think canteens would be better for carrying around while doing downtown errands--unbreakable, and they have a carrying strap.

People didn't have to carry canteens around everywhere. Water fountains were common.

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On 2/12/2018 at 5:09 PM, Iguessnot said:

People didn't have to carry canteens around everywhere. Water fountains were common.

They still are, but I bet a lot of people don't even notice them because they carry their own water.  Even movie theaters have water fountains, and you KNOW they don't want you drinking anything but what you buy from them.

Somehow back in the day, people out and about, doing their downtown shopping on Saturdays or walking to school, weren't all carrying water on them.  And that was even though if they got thirsty they had only water fountains, and not a huge selection of various bottled waters at every store. 

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I think I will try the cauliflower bites for my Oscar party, since I don't have any vegans coming only vegetarians and carnivores so I will probably just make a blue cheese dip with a vegetarian blue cheese.

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biakbiak, can I come to your party?  I am vegan.

I think that I am the only person on this board (or in the world) who likes Chris and misses him!  BLAH  ARGHH

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3 hours ago, Tress said:

biakbiak, can I come to your party?  I am vegan.

I think that I am the only person on this board (or in the world) who likes Chris and misses him!  BLAH  ARGHH

I like Chris too! Always have.  I just get a kick out of him.  Miss him very much on this show. 

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5 hours ago, Tress said:

biakbiak, can I come to your party?  I am vegan.

I think that I am the only person on this board (or in the world) who likes Chris and misses him!  BLAH  ARGHH

If you come I will make the vegan ranch dip even though I hate ranch.

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9 hours ago, Tress said:

I think that I am the only person on this board (or in the world) who likes Chris and misses him!  BLAH  ARGHH

I miss Chris, too. But I do get to see him on his new show.

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6 hours ago, MerBearHou said:

I like Chris too! Always have.  I just get a kick out of him.  Miss him very much on this show. 

There is always Milk Street.

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14 hours ago, Tress said:

I think that I am the only person on this board (or in the world) who likes Chris and misses him! 

I disagree.  I always thought Chris was a pompous ass hiding behind an "aw shucks" persona.  Then when I read all about his resigning/dismissal from the show and how that all went down, it confirmed my initial thoughts about him.

But yes, you can watch him on Milk Street.  It's a show that looks an awful lot like like America's Test Kitchen.

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1 hour ago, roughing it said:

It's a show that looks an awful lot like like America's Test Kitchen.

But, in my opinion, without the fun and charm.  The set is very sterile, the cooks not at all interesting, and there are some wacky recipes.  But Christopher fans might like it.  Personally I do not nor did I ever like him.

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3 hours ago, Kohola3 said:
4 hours ago, roughing it said:

It's a show that looks an awful lot like like America's Test Kitchen.

But, in my opinion, without the fun and charm.  The set is very sterile, the cooks not at all interesting, and there are some wacky recipes.  But Christopher fans might like it.  Personally I do not nor did I ever like him.

I've watched Milk Street and I agree with Kohola3 wrote.  I just don't care for it.

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The set is a bit sterile and the chefs aren't mature enough to give Chris the push back he needs. Actually the Indian chef gives Chris a verbal beat down every once in a while, but the show is a bit awkward right now. The voice of one chef is so high, it nearly sends me out of the room.

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The set is a bit sterile and the chefs aren't mature enough to give Chris the push back he needs.

Plus they are are all so, well, dull.  No one even cracks a smile.  And I have always enjoyed the gadget recommendations and taste testings on ATK.  Guess I'm skipping Milk Street from now on.

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I wonder if that seriousness is to help set it apart from the goofiness of ATK and CC? Though I don't think everyone being po-faced is the answer.

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Bridget really brought it on the vegan mayo taste test.  She said the taste of one of them was acid reflux, and the texture was mucilaginous!

But she does the same think Kimball used to--he'd be talking about one of them and in the middle of his comment about that one, he'd stop talking to take another taste of it and then continue talking about it.  Don't know why it bugs me so much.  That extra mid-comment taste never seemed to change his mind.

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I laughed pretty hard at her reactions to the nastiest vegan mayo options.  Jack told her, "At least I didn't give you fish sauce," but I think she had less of a reaction in that taste test (which was also great; she downed straight fish sauce like a champ). 

I love mayo, but am so particular about it - Best Foods (Hellman's) is just the start; I only like the regular version, so no light, no olive oil, no whatever (the canola version was great, but they changed it and now it tastes like vinegar, which I loathe) - that I'd have probably made the face she made at the first one at all of them.

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She said she liked the winner, and Jack said they couldn't tell the difference in chicken salad or something like that, so I'm intrigued.

I'm regular Hellman's all the way, and have been able to taste the difference if I use Kraft mayonnaise when I'm just making fry sauce for french fries with ketchup and mayonnaise. which surprised me.

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7 minutes ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

Jack said they couldn't tell the difference in chicken salad or something like that, so I'm intrigued.

I thought that was weird because I can totally tell the difference, its not bad and I always keep some on hand to use for when my vegan friends and two friends who are allergic to eggs come for dinner but it is noticeable. I think its probably because if you taste the mayo in chicken salad your using too much mayo. 

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Why would you ever use vegan mayo in chicken salad? Egg allergy? 

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4 hours ago, Jalyn said:

Why would you ever use vegan mayo in chicken salad? Egg allergy? 

I think it was mainly just for the test taking a common dish that the tasting panel would be familiar with the flavor profile.

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Gotta say, ATK's One Pot Mac 'n' Cheese is pretty fantastic. And it only takes about 20 minutes and is easily halved. Rather than wrestle with ATK's website, I rewatched the episode and wrote down the recipe as Julia and Bridget demonstrated it (it's only six or so ingredients).

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23 hours ago, AllAboutMBTV said:

Rather than wrestle with ATK's website, I rewatched the episode and wrote down the recipe as Julia and Bridget demonstrated it...

Glad to see I am not the only one that does this.  Their website is so frustrating!

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ATK recipes sometimes show up on other websites.

On 3/2/2018 at 4:47 PM, AllAboutMBTV said:

Gotta say, ATK's One Pot Mac 'n' Cheese is pretty fantastic.

I'm curious, @AllAboutMBTV, did you get a smooth sauce? I made it with cheddar and fontina (instead of the American cheese), and I had some graininess. It was delicious nonetheless.

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I did get a smooth sauce, DUBBEL ZOUT. Per their recommendation, I used American cheese, something I would not normally look twice at, even in a chunk from the deli counter. It was quite smooth and made that glurpy, sucking sound when I stirred it. Other than it tastes great, the clean up is minimal -- no second pot or a colander to wash, just the box grater.

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7 minutes ago, AllAboutMBTV said:

that glurpy, sucking sound

This is a PERFECT description for a luscious sound.

I'll use American cheese next time. I have nothing against it (I adore Velveeta), but it wasn't convenient when I was buying for this recipe. 

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On ‎3‎/‎25‎/‎2017 at 3:03 PM, StatisticalOutlier said:

I enjoyed that.  It took away some of the irritation from Bridget's "go ahead"s - the count this time was 11.  Ten "I'm going to go ahead and..." and one "I've gone ahead and..."  I just have to believe she never watches her own segments.

ETA: I just watched the one with the red lentil soup.  Am I the only one who's bothered by people eating with big spoons?  I don't like to do it myself, and when Erin put the big spoon in her mouth, you could hear it clack against her teeth and I hate that sound.

I had to laugh at this.  One day I counted 25 times in one short segment.   Go ahead and stop it!!

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I confess I eat soup with a big spoon.  To eat with a little teaspoon would mean the soup would be cold before I got to the bottom of the bowl.  Who knew it was offensive!

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18 hours ago, Kohola3 said:

I confess I eat soup with a big spoon.  To eat with a little teaspoon would mean the soup would be cold before I got to the bottom of the bowl. 

I would suggest that you use a small spoon, but double-time, but the whooshing of the spoon back and forth would probably cool the soup even faster.

 

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Who knew it was offensive!

I'm sure pretty much everything is offensive to someone.  It's just that now we have the internet to tell everyone.

If you can keep the spoon from clacking on your teeth, I'm fine with it.  Or if I'm not around when you eat with your big spoon, that's okay, too.

 

On 2/28/2018 at 7:43 PM, biakbiak said:
On 2/28/2018 at 3:15 PM, Jalyn said:

Why would you ever use vegan mayo in chicken salad? Egg allergy? 

I think it was mainly just for the test taking a common dish that the tasting panel would be familiar with the flavor profile.

Good point.  But he did say that 7-Eleven has switched to vegan mayo, and Bridget said that's so they don't have to keep two kinds of mayonnaise on hand.

I never eat at 7-Eleven, but Mr. Outlier likes some sort of rolling hamburgers they have, the thought of which makes me gag, but that's my only experience so it doesn't sound to me like they'd need to have a vegan mayo.  Maybe their other culinary offerings are of a different nature? 

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Soup spoons are bigger than teaspoons for a reason. ;-}

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38 minutes ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

I would suggest that you use a small spoon, but double-time, but the whooshing of the spoon back and forth would probably cool the soup even faster.

But then that whooshing sound might annoy those with noise sensitivity.  Sigh, guess I will have to go to a straw although it will have to be big enough to handle things like meat or veggies unless I puree everything.  Pureed chicken noodle soup?  Well, no.

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We just got the baklava episode and it was pretty good. I wonder if Bridget was taking her joke from Blazing Saddles - she's cool enough that I think she was :-)

(In case you missed it, Julia mentioned how steady her hand was and Bridget said yeah, but I shoot with this hand)

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I tried their hollandaise where you use softened butter and hot water and didn’t like it. It didn’t break and it was light but it was so light it didn’t taste like hollandaise.    

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I also tried the hollandaise and found the results to very good, perhaps needing a touch more lemon; I made a small batch and divided the amounts accordingly, so perhaps I rounded down the lemon. But you do have to stir it for several minutes before it reaches the correct thick consistency. I have used softened butter for a long time in hollandaise, but this was the first time I added hot water to it; usually, one does it only if the sauce breaks.

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