S02.E08: Gala Auction 2017.11.29

Katie teams up with Oliver to bribe rich Westport families to donate big-ticket items for the spring gala; Greg takes Taylor and Anna-Kat to a Revolutionary War reenactment.

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Another fun episode. But I could stand for them to remember they told us Katie has a marketing degree from Duke and was a successful sales director at one point. She could be killing this gala planning if she fell back on her previous training as an alternative to playing the Westport game.

"As for the goatee...Reality Bites pushed a lot of good people into a lot of bad directions" Absolutely dying, cause they're not wrong if you remember them fully capturing the grunge vibe of the 90s in that movie.

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I know it's a nitpick but again with the summery weather when this is supposedly a post-Thanksgiving episode.  OK today it was in the 50s in CT, but most days it's in the 30s and 40s at this time of year.  And no leaves on the trees either, people!

If Greg was so concerned about what materialistic values his kids are learning why did he choose to live in Westport when he could have easily found a good school system in another nearby town that's not so full of uber rich people?  I know it's TV but that's kind of irking me.

And speaking of values, I'm usually the one disapproving of stuff but I really saw nothing wrong with what Katie and Oliver were doing to raise money for the gala.  Hey, whatever works, it was at least honest!  Provided the kid's parents were aware of it and OK with it, of course.

Anna-Kat had me rolling with her enthusiasm for her role as nurse in the reenactment.  "I'm a Massachusetts housewife", LOL!

And the lesson of history is precisely that - that women in those days weren't allowed to fight in battles.  There should be no re-writing allowed if you're trying to be accurate.  I think that bit with Taylor might have been a swipe at what some in the younger generation supposedly do with editing history to be more palatable with today's values.

Oh, and "drop me off at the mall" - that would be quite a ride as there is no mall near Westport.  Greg mentioned the mall in downtown Stamford but wow, that would be about 13 miles away.  There's the Post Mall in Milford but that's even further away, not to mention the one in Danbury.  Or Trumbull.  My old stompin' grounds!

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This felt like an old episode they sat on and just slipped in. Because where's Oliver's rich older friend and why didn't they ask him for donations?

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9 hours ago, Snarklepuss said:

And speaking of values, I'm usually the one disapproving of stuff but I really saw nothing wrong with what Katie and Oliver were doing to raise money for the gala.  Hey, whatever works, it was at least honest!  Provided the kid's parents were aware of it and OK with it, of course.

I would agree up until the point Katie bribed the principal to avoid trouble for the friend.  He was about to be suspended and possibly expelled and she got him back in school so that his parents would still go to the Gala. 

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13 minutes ago, joanne3482 said:

I would agree up until the point Katie bribed the principal to avoid trouble for the friend.  He was about to be suspended and possibly expelled and she got him back in school so that his parents would still go to the Gala. 

I agree with you, but I also think the show should be aware that they're talking about a real town here.  I'm not sure it's fair to the school prinicpals in one of the best school districts in Connecticut to depict them (even fictionally) as being so easily able to be bribed like this.

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11 hours ago, Snarklepuss said:

If Greg was so concerned about what materialistic values his kids are learning why did he choose to live in Westport when he could have easily found a good school system in another nearby town that's not so full of uber rich people?  I know it's TV but that's kind of irking me.

I'm pretty sure they covered that in the pilot when Katie stated that they chose to live in Westport because of the special help that Anna-Kat gets at school for her OCD and anxiety problems.  I think they were particularly happy with her teacher and/or psychologist at the school, and choose to do what they must so Anna-Kat can continue there.

I thought this episode was pretty funny.  I enjoyed it.

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Cooper Bradford (Oliver's rich friend) cracks me up. He has no concept of real life to the extent that he finds punishments fun. I like Katie's determination to make him sad somehow before she dies.

I loved how Doris kept suggesting one of the prizes be hunting down Greg. And that Katie ultimately had to resort to it as an offer in exchange for the use of Sara Rue's summer house.

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Oliver is really growing!  Very handsome boy.  

The episode was okay.  

Sara R u e wow lost so much weight! 

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10 hours ago, AnnaRose said:

I'm pretty sure they covered that in the pilot when Katie stated that they chose to live in Westport because of the special help that Anna-Kat gets at school for her OCD and anxiety problems.  I think they were particularly happy with her teacher and/or psychologist at the school, and choose to do what they must so Anna-Kat can continue there.

I thought this episode was pretty funny.  I enjoyed it.

I realize that, but why did they move there in the first place?  Usually parents choose a community for its schools but I live in CT and I know there are several less expensive/snobby but still wonderful towns to live in nearby that make the top ten list of best school systems in the state and have excellent programs for kids with special needs, like Fairfield.  The show makes it seem like Westport was the only place they could get that and it's not.  Plus they haven't really given a whole lot of evidence to show how the teacher and/or psychologist is worth staying there for.   I guess they had to give some kind of reason for their being there, it's just that to me it seems kind of flimsy because I know the area.

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35 minutes ago, Snarklepuss said:

I realize that, but why did they move there in the first place?  Usually parents choose a community for its schools but I live in CT and I know there are several less expensive/snobby but still wonderful towns to live in nearby that make the top ten list of best school systems in the state and have excellent programs for kids with special needs, like Fairfield.  The show makes it seem like Westport was the only place they could get that and it's not.  Plus they haven't really given a whole lot of evidence to show how the teacher and/or psychologist is worth staying there for.   I guess they had to give some kind of reason for their being there, it's just that to me it seems kind of flimsy because I know the area.

Maybe because that's where Greg was offered a job? Isn't he teaching at a college? I'm old and can't really remember the specifics ;-)

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33 minutes ago, 17wheatthins said:

Maybe because that's where Greg was offered a job? Isn't he teaching at a college? I'm old and can't really remember the specifics ;-)

I don't think there's any rule against living in a different town than one teaches in, but I don't really know.

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32 minutes ago, Snarklepuss said:

I realize that, but why did they move there in the first place?  Usually parents choose a community for its schools but I live in CT and I know there are several less expensive/snobby but still wonderful towns to live in nearby that make the top ten list of best school systems in the state and have excellent programs for kids with special needs, like Fairfield.  The show makes it seem like Westport was the only place they could get that and it's not.  Plus they haven't really given a whole lot of evidence to show how the teacher and/or psychologist is worth staying there for.   I guess they had to give some kind of reason for their being there, it's just that to me it seems kind of flimsy because I know the area.

Because that is the set up for the show.  Also, I think Greg teaches nearby.

Fictional Westport and its environs does not necessarily match real life Westport and surrounding areas.  In the American Housewife universe, Westport has specialized help for their daughter that is better than other school districts.

Since you're so familiar with the area, perhaps you could start a thread about discrepancies between Fictional Westport and real life Westport.

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44 minutes ago, AnnaRose said:

Because that is the set up for the show.  Also, I think Greg teaches nearby.

Fictional Westport and its environs does not necessarily match real life Westport and surrounding areas.  In the American Housewife universe, Westport has specialized help for their daughter that is better than other school districts.

Since you're so familiar with the area, perhaps you could start a thread about discrepancies between Fictional Westport and real life Westport.

Fairfield borders Westport so it's not far away from where they live, BTW. 

This is why a lot of shows are set in fictional towns or at least avoid things that would be hard to swallow for people that know the real place.  I don't think it's invalid to be annoyed by such things and if there were more people from the area on the board it might bother some of them too.  In fact, over in the media thread I just found out that I'm far from the only person that was annoyed by the Norwalk bashing and now the show has promised not to do it after an outcry from residents and community leaders, including the mayor.  So these things do matter to the people who live in these very real places.

"The Middle" has a nitpick thread where people pick over even more miniscule plot inconsistencies and real world implausibilities that some others may not find annoying but some do.  Maybe I should start one for this show.

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1 hour ago, Snarklepuss said:

I don't think there's any rule against living in a different town than one teaches in, but I don't really know.

That depends! My sister *has* to live in the city where her job is. And maybe it was the only place they could rent the inexpensive house in which they live. I don't think it's really central to the plot, though. Many television programs have their fictional characters living in real cities, and they don't always get everything right. 

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Aren't they in Westport specifically for the program for Anna-Kat?  I thought that is why they loved there.  Katie would prefer elsewhere if not for the special program.

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10 minutes ago, MortysCleaningLady said:

Aren't they in Westport specifically for the program for Anna-Kat?  I thought that is why they loved there.  Katie would prefer elsewhere if not for the special program.

Yes, you're right about the special program.

Also, their rent in that house is really low; they had an episode about that too.

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Yeah, I thought it was outright stated in a previous epside they moved they not just generally for the good schools and program for Anna-Kat. I thought it was about the specific school she's at, with the specific specialist that's there. There may well be other good or nearly as good programs/schools/specialists elsewhere in CT, but the premise was the move was specifically to get her in this specific one.

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42 minutes ago, theatremouse said:

Yeah, I thought it was outright stated in a previous epside they moved they not just generally for the good schools and program for Anna-Kat. I thought it was about the specific school she's at, with the specific specialist that's there. There may well be other good or nearly as good programs/schools/specialists elsewhere in CT, but the premise was the move was specifically to get her in this specific one.

I know that but going so far as to move to a community they're not comfortable with when there are other equally as good choices out there still doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.  There are probably even more equally valid reasons why moving there would be bad for their kids in the long run especially judging from some of the stuff they've shown us so far.  I could understand it more if this program and this woman were their only hope in the area.  Same goes for the supposedly low rent house, which would be very unlikely to happen IRL in that town.  Low rent there would still be too high for most people.  But whatever, I realize it was just a hook so the show could make their moving there seem plausible. 

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Okay, let’s move away from the discussion of why the Ottos chose to live where they do; it’s unproductive and off topic. 

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On 11/30/2017 at 10:03 PM, galaxychaser said:

Sara Rue wow lost so much weight! 

It's weird seeing the former star of a sitcom about how it's okay not to be superthin on today's version of that premise, but on the other side.

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18 hours ago, jbrecken said:

It's weird seeing the former star of a sitcom about how it's okay not to be superthin on today's version of that premise, but on the other side.

I completely agree, I was in complete shock on how thin Sara Rue is now. Going back to the episode, I'm sad to see they went back to season 1 personality of Oliver again. Basically telling his mother to sell out, but I do look forward to his friend learning some day his rich isolated life is going to get his ass kicked some day. 

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Does anyone else think that there is something going on with Oliver's friend's family? He seemed to be struggling with an answer for where his parents were when Sara Rue's character asked. It was like, "They're uh, ....(fill in answer). Yeah, yeah, that's it." Maybe they've lost all their money, or are in rehab, or whatever.

But then Katie talks to his mom at the end so I'm not sure.

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My favorite parts of the episode involved Katie.  Her line to Oliver's friend that, "Before I die, I'm gonna make you sad!" made me laugh out loud.  I also liked her conversation with the principal about "us poors".  And of course her conversations with Oliver as her bad influence (and the robot dance) vs Greg trying to steer her away from the dark side.

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I think that what Katie was doing - offering seats at the Bradford table to get donations - is a perfectly fine thing to do. There was, however, no need for her to get into the bitchy "westport moms' mode and become all snobbish.  Bribing the principal was the last straw.

What I don't understand is why she's so desperate to chair this gala. She is completely out of her element and has no real interest in being part of the in-crowd, so why can't she just get up and say she changed her mind and won't do it?  Is is to make up for the fake pregnancy? Those snobs will get over it. She can never endear herself to that crowd anyway.

ETA: I was going crazy where I knew that dark haired actress from. Sarah Rue! What a surprise.

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On 11/30/2017 at 1:13 AM, Snarklepuss said:

I know it's a nitpick but again with the summery weather when this is supposedly a post-Thanksgiving episode.  OK today it was in the 50s in CT, but most days it's in the 30s and 40s at this time of year.  And no leaves on the trees either, people!

This is making me crazy!! As someone who actually lives in CT and spent the whole last week going to work in 15 degrees, I really wish they'd throw us a TINY nod toward reality. Like, Katie would not be strolling around downtown in just a flannel shirt, and lawns are not the brilliant green of July.

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4 hours ago, SnarkySheep said:

This is making me crazy!! As someone who actually lives in CT and spent the whole last week going to work in 15 degrees, I really wish they'd throw us a TINY nod toward reality. Like, Katie would not be strolling around downtown in just a flannel shirt, and lawns are not the brilliant green of July.

Exactly!  It was even worse in the most recent holiday episode when it should be even colder out here in CT.  At least on "The Middle" they make fake snow and show the characters wearing puffer jackets in Indiana.  This show takes a lot of liberties with reality.

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On 12/18/2017 at 11:57 PM, Snarklepuss said:

Exactly!  It was even worse in the most recent holiday episode when it should be even colder out here in CT.  At least on "The Middle" they make fake snow and show the characters wearing puffer jackets in Indiana.  This show takes a lot of liberties with reality.

I agree, I get that some states are lacking snow (blame global warming) but at least show it is winter and not acting like it's the middle of spring or fall. 

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