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S2: All Episode Talk

So, no one is rushing right over here to talk about this, huh?  Lol. 

I am so very grateful they replaced the kids.  Well, just one kid in particular.  Noah, was it?  Gah, he was annoying.

I don't like that they took away the adults talking about the toy and deciding if it should go to the kids or not.  I am sure they probably still do that, but I liked that part of the episodes pretty much the best.  Without that, I don't think we would've gotten the meltdown by that one woman inventor last year.  I just don't think so much should rely on a 6-year old.  Obviously kids are an important part of the toy industry.  But, I think I would like it better if they were just a focus group and the adult experts talk about why it would or wouldn't work. 

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I was happy they replaced the kids too. I do think they should have maybe one group of kids 6-9 & one 9-12 judging toys targeted at the age group. The blanket that was origami was good for 3-6 year olds while the sushi game was more for 9-12, both I think were the inventions that could be successful but the wrong age kids were deciding. 

 

I also think the inventors should give the retail price. It would be interesting if they gave each kid $50 or $100 to spend at the end and see what toys they would buy and that would help decide the winner. Price is one of the most important factor in selling toys. 

 

I wonder how much say Mattel really has? Do they sway the kids to vote a certain way? 

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Came in on this a bit of the way through it.  So no more adults in the industry do a preview/vote of the toys?  I like the age range of the kids but I agree that 6 years old is too young.  Toys aimed for that age group should be a room with toys and 5/6 year olds and see who plays with what.

On 10/3/2017 at 1:59 AM, silverspoons said:

It would be interesting if they gave each kid $50 or $100 to spend at the end and see what toys they would buy and that would help decide the winner. Price is one of the most important factor in selling toys.

Great idea!

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Ugh. Noah is back. I was hoping he was off the whole season. It’s funny because Eric doesn’t even seem to like him. I liked the older kids. Especially when they could rationalize that they didn’t like the toy, but could see the appeal for other kids and sent it through. I would like to see more thoughtful judging. I flet so bad for the lady with the stuffed toys. I mean, they were talking/singing/rapping stuffed animals- nothing really all that new and inventive, but she looked so hopeful. 

I didn’t like the mini golf game. As a parent, the pieces laying all over would annoy me. We didn’t really have any space to leave it set up. I also didn’t like the name. 

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I'm sad they got rid of the adult panel -- I actually found it super interesting to see what kind of considerations go into a successful toy from a professional perspective, and I think they were able to catch some things a bunch of precocious child actors wouldn't. 

I agree some of the younger kids don't have the critical thinking skills to make great decisions. That sushi game was rad, stupid kids. 

I actually did think Waterdodgers was also a good, versatile and fully realized toy that I would've enjoyed the hell out of as a kid. I was underwhelmed by all of episode 2's options, though. I did love mini golf as a kid, but I think a set that large is going to be expensive and a lot of parents will think it's too large and window-breaky. 

Wonder what the future of this show is with Toys R Us going bust?

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15 hours ago, retrograde said:

I actually did think Waterdodgers was also a good, versatile and fully realized toy that I would've enjoyed the hell out of as a kid.

Me too.  I think the problem with having actor kids is that they have probably grown up in a sheltered home.  When I was a kid and with my own kid we would call over the neighbor kids during rainy days and set up fun stuff in the garage.  Parents would take turns having the gang over and serving snacks or lunch.  That Waterdodgers would have been a huge hit.  It's the garage so who cares if water gets on the floor.  I don't think the kids on the show got that it was an outside toy.  I could see it at the pool, on a picnic table or just on the driveway on a hot day.

This whole show is kind of meaningless, no?  My niece was involved in a panel of children and toys about 25 years ago.  She was 6 and was recommended by her photographer who must have done some freelance work with the major toy store.  They didn't get paid but did get to choose an outfit to take home and received a few toys to take home too.  Each child had their parent with them and the parents filled out the child interview forms.  Questions like:  Does your child gravitate more towards gender specific toys?  Does your child enjoy arts and crafts? Does your child mind getting dirty? etc.  The children were divided into groups by age.  She was in the 5 - 8 yr old group.  Parent and child showed up at the Toy Lab at a specified time.  The time chosen directly correlated with their age group.  The Toy Lab looked like a converted daycare center except that the glass in the classrooms was ceiling to floor.  There were 4 glass classrooms.  Each age had their own classroom overseen by licensed daycare workers trained to facilitate the survey.  Parents were in the waiting room which was on the other side of the glass and both parent and child could always see their counterparts.  The classrooms were situated where they were in a row with an open aisle in the back so that the children could visit any area they wanted to.  The kids were split up by gender and age.  Classic favorite toys and new toys were displayed.  Parents could see and hear the kids but the kids could only see them.  Executives were in another area of the building watching the kids through cameras.  Parents could visit with each other or follow along on the hit sheets. If a child wanted to see a toy the facilitators gave it to him/her and that would be a hit if the child continue to explore the toy.  If other kids gathered - hit.  If they squatted - hit.  If the sat on the floor - hit.  The kids could go out and see their parents at any time.  Parents were provided with beverages and snacks.  My sister said they were probably watching what snacks the adults chose.  

By Eric telling the kids that they were responsible for the making or breaking of dreams seems wrong.

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I actually like the format change, but mostly because it seems like they can get through more toys this way... and really, like shark tank, I care about the products and could not care less about the discussion/opinions on the toy. So I can watch this show in about 15 minutes, which is nice.

 

I just like to see new products and new ideas, but some of this stuff is lame... or just a slight change to an existing toy- like the 'fortune teller" fidget spinners. The hugalope thing had some potential... there are already so many little cheap collectable things out there, that I don't think there is any competing with the big names doing shopkins and stuff like that, so the charm thing was meh. The water play set looked like fun, but also a pain to set up and maintain all of the pieces.

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Those plastic charms were huge for me in the 80's. I don't know what I was missing with these chain charms because they were exactly the same ones from my childhood. Same clip, same chain, same everything.

I have always thought Noah was cute and didn't understand the hate here. But I GET IT NOW! Ugh that little shit is purposely contradicting Paxton for spite, and meanwhile destroying the inventor's big chance at getting their toy through. He needs to go now, and take the little blonde chick with him. Everyone needs to get off Paxton's back! He is thoughtful and sweet, and secure in his pink shoes. He likes motley crue! Yet each time they asked his opinion, the other kids would huff and roll their eyes. In kid world, that is bullying.

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I hope all the rudeness,eye rolling and nasty remarks by these kids is producer driven because if not, these kids! I too love to see the toys and can do without the comments. I am almost to the point of thinking they should get rid of the kids and only have adult judges but that would ruin the premise of the show. Loved the water toy!

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22 minutes ago, hoosiermom said:

I hope all the rudeness,eye rolling and nasty remarks by these kids is producer driven because if not, these kids! I too love to see the toys and can do without the comments. I am almost to the point of thinking they should get rid of the kids and only have adult judges but that would ruin the premise of the show. Loved the water toy!

I hope the rivalry between Noah, who I can't stand, and the other very young boy is also producer driven.  For the kids to yell at each other for voting a certain way was unseemly.

I also rooted for the water toy.

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Yes the kids shrieking at each other was really unpleasant and unnecessary. 

Still, I agreed with the little blonde girl (for once) that the charms had been done a million times. I also agreed with whichever kids said the fidget spinner knock-off was lazy plagiarism. I guess the best toy won this week (although water wastage is a real issue in some cities) but it was another underwhelming batch. 

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Oh man, I only watched this week cause I actually knew of Rocket Bob. So glad his hovercraft won.  He does shows and demonstrations at schools, fairs, etc. around the area. He also has a book called 'Yep, it's Rocket Science '. And to my knowledge he's never been married or had bio kids but he's been fostering kids since at least the 70s. Just an awesome guy.

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I was tickled that Olivia wanted to take it to the park and zoom the hovercraft around everywhere.

Olivia and Gregory seem to be the best at "well, I wasn't interested, but I bet others kids would love it."

The hula hooping mom annoyed me.

I expect to see Noah on Masterchef, Junior any season now.

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I was surprised by "Rocket Bob" since he lives not that far from me, yet I've never heard of him and have never seen him highlighted on any local tv channel, even though we get news reports on locals being on The Voice, American Idol and other shows. Go figure. I did like the hovercraft best, though. And thank goodness that obnoxious wannabe child "star" wasn't on. Is that Noah? He's just too cool for school ... in his opinion.

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6 hours ago, saber5055 said:

I was surprised by "Rocket Bob" since he lives not that far from me, yet I've never heard of him and have never seen him highlighted on any local tv channel, even though we get news reports on locals being on The Voice, American Idol and other shows. Go figure. I did like the hovercraft best, though. And thank goodness that obnoxious wannabe child "star" wasn't on. Is that Noah? He's just too cool for school ... in his opinion.

I'm from RI and I didn't watch any of the local news but it was on the front page of the business section of the Sunday Dispatch.

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The hovercraft looked awesome, and is my new favorite for this season. Paxton wasn't wrong that the inventor looks like Miner 49er from Scooby Doo! 

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The noon news just had a segment on Rocket Bob, saying he was on Toy Box "last night." Only problem, Toy Box airs on Sunday here and it's now Tuesday. Good job, fact checkers. At least he got a shout out. I was pretty creeped out by Eric turning it into a dating show for Bob. Jeez, just let the guy show his cool hovercraft made for kids without making it creepy -- for kids AND adults.

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10 hours ago, saber5055 said:

I was pretty creeped out by Eric turning it into a dating show for Bob. Jeez, just let the guy show his cool hovercraft made for kids without making it creepy -- for kids AND adults.

Yeah, I also hoped Eric had checked first that Bob is actually into women before going on that whole spiel. 

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I liked the Eardorables and thought the Ninja card throwing game would be good for parties.  I agree with the kids that the president game is more for teens/adults.  When he couldn't even tell about the scandals that was a tip off.

The Eardorables were awesome and I would buy 5 right now if I could.  I also liked the tiny finger puppets with the container that turned into a house.  Very cute.

The girl whose dad invented the hover board was weird in that the success of his first toy surely would get him face time with this one.

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I thought Orbit Wheels and Ninja Darts would make good gifts for some family members so I looked for them online ---

Orbit Wheels are sold on Amazon ($70-100), Walmart ($67) , and a few other stores.

Ninja Darts are sold on their website, which states "As seen on Shark Tank."  I have a vague recollection of Mark Cuban throwing the cards (the memory is really fuzzy though).  The version on Toy Box is Ninja Darts II.  Not sure which version was on Shark Tank.  I guess they didn't get an offer from the Sharks or the deal fell through.

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Once again two toys that didn't even make the finals got a deal .I agree with one of those two.So so about the winner didn't hate it.

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I was disappointed the Hoovercraft didn't win, although maybe it will get made and sold anyway. It's something that can be played alone or with others, kids and adults would have fun with it, play inside or outside, on the lawn or in water/pool. The winner (I've forgotten the name already!) would cause a disaster played inside ... water, plus broken "stuff" and kids falling over coffee tables, etc. Plus you can't play alone. Oh well. I'm not buying any of them. And congrats to all inventors for making it to the finals. I hope they all find success. (I'd like to play the Ninja Cards though!)

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I was going to complain about the weird elimination system that seemed to only exist to drag the show out as long as possible, but I think the final two were the right final two and that the best toy won. I personally loved the Hovercraft, but I think Waterdodgers is more versatile and accessible to the widest audience and it gets kids running around outdoors to boot. It's also a toy that I can see kids finding lots of creative uses for, which isn't the case with so many of the toys on this show. It's true you can't play alone or inside (although I think most kids will also repurpose the shields for sword fighting and role playing games indoors) but the same could be said of the frisbee and that is still a great toy. 

I really could've done without the interviews with the kids. 

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On 11/19/2017 at 10:35 PM, saber5055 said:

I was disappointed the Hoovercraft didn't win,

Me too!  I looked online and saw that ToyRUs has many versions of hovercrafts so now I see the issue.

I also saw that eardorables got a deal.  I loved it and thought it was a very creative idea for sleepovers or going to grandma's house.

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7 hours ago, jumper sage said:

I looked online and saw that ToyRUs has many versions of hovercrafts so now I see the issue.

I'm surprised they didn't pre-screen it out in that case. That's why I miss when everything went through an adult panel first. Kids are dumb. 

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So I just talked to my mom - Bob (inventor of the hovercraft) died today.  I'm glad he got to see his toy so widely praised before he went. 

Obituary

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36 minutes ago, sab85 said:

So I just talked to my mom - Bob (inventor of the hovercraft) died today.  I'm glad he got to see his toy so widely praised before he went. 

Oh man, he seemed like such a lovely guy too. I am also glad he got to share his creation with the country before he died. Vale, Rocket Bob. 

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On 10/5/2017 at 12:39 AM, jumper sage said:

Came in on this a bit of the way through it.  So no more adults in the industry do a preview/vote of the toys?  I like the age range of the kids but I agree that 6 years old is too young.  Toys aimed for that age group should be a room with toys and 5/6 year olds and see who plays with what.

Great idea!

Definitely a good idea! My 6 yr little girl is addicted to the Dolls. One more thing I quote out that. The Dolls are fine, I have seen many people putting up the games on teh same names as my 6 yr old likes the dolls but now she is more into gaming. She is like playing her Shopkins games that are totally free

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