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Thank you for adding this!

I love this show. Caught up on all seasons. Waiting for the new one to start. So soapy and fun.

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I'm watching on local PBS and have NO IDEA how many episodes/seasons remain.   The actress who plays Regina is a PERFECT Disney villain.

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Has the start date for the new season been announced?  I have seen nothing on it and it's one of my favorite shows. though I HATE Regina so much!!!

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12 hours ago, Former Nun said:

I'm watching on local PBS and have NO IDEA how many episodes/seasons remain.   The actress who plays Regina is a PERFECT Disney villain.

I think there are 4 seasons; I've been watching it on my local PBS station too! Last week was I believe the finale of season 4 . The episode "All Good Things" really felt like a series finale to me until they had the whole scene where 

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Sir Richard is going to get Regina off in exchange for dirt on the Bligh family.

I hoping season 5 isn't just more Regina drama. Yes, she does make a good villain, but I'm tired of her. 

 

Also I'm probably the only one not rooting for Anna and Gino.

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2 hours ago, Fireball said:

Also I'm probably the only one not rooting for Anna and Gino.

I'm just "meh" with Anna...and I was over Gino long ago.  It may be that the casting is just wrong.  I'd even prefer a different actress for Sarah (Sara?)...but I'm not Australian.

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EDIT: I'm not sure if we should use spoiler tags and for what, but I just thought I should warn anyone who hasn't seen season 4 to scroll past my post. :)

Gino is probably the only central character outside Regina that I straight up don't like (and at least Regina is intended to be disliked). I enjoyed him in the first season and the actor is cute, but as soon as the two were married he became a monster. And it just dragged on into the fourth season with him complaining about anything and everything Anna did. I was so happy he was gone at the end and I hope he stays away. George is another character I go back and forth on, but I do like him and Sarah together. And the character's pretty badass when he takes charge of things. When he had the whole family meet in the drawing room in order to take back any power Regina had over him and told them all he was the father of Sarah's baby, I couldn't help cheering.

I have to say I've enjoyed the entire series thus far except season 3. That was a snorefest. I'm so glad the show got back on the rails in 4. I believe my favorite characters on the show are Carolyn and Jack, but I like Harry, too, and I was so glad they brought him back. I have to say it's refreshing to have a gay couple on a show I watch where I like both characters and there's enormous chemistry. Hopefully they'll write out the doctor soon. And I'm hoping they bring Andrew Swanson back to be Olivia's love interest, too. I wasn't shocked at all the painter dropped her; he only ever seemed interested in sex from the moment they met. I expect that painting will come back to haunt her. I like that they've shown Elisabeth falling back into her old controlling habits, and her slip-outs of hatred for what James is. Seems realistic to me.

As for Regina, I'm glad they had the balls to actually push her to the ledge rather than just be all bluster with no pay-off. When she accidentally shot the officer, I actually felt a twinge of sympathy for her. On top of the building morphine addiction, the scene where she's outside the car on the ground just felt like her Lady Macbeth moment to me where she was finally feeling the weight of all she'd done. That last episode where she went to Sarah's house and was holding the baby was so well-done. I thought for sure she had to be done at this point, but they seem to be setting up her return (which'll most likely mean trouble for James, unfortunately).

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18 hours ago, Former Nun said:

I'm just "meh" with Anna...and I was over Gino long ago.  It may be that the casting is just wrong.  I'd even prefer a different actress for Sarah (Sara?)...but I'm not Australian.

Anna has grown on me. However, one of my problems with Anna is I have a hard time believing that she's actually a Bligh. Everyone else in the family has brown/brunette hair and while I know that two brown haired parents can have a blonde child it just takes me out of the show. When I first started watching my thought was sooo the writers don't think the audience can distinguish between a brown hair Olivia and a brown haired Anna.

Gino I was always a bit meh on him; I did kind of like him in the first season. However, once Anna and he got married I just started to hate him. Actually when he went and sold Anna's horse is when I really started hating him. I can't even remember why he sold her horse, but I recall it was because it boiled down to he was mad at Anna. I'm a bit confused why Jack is so upset & devastated over Anna & Gino's break-up.  

Sarah I go back and forth with her. At times I really like her and at times she's just to much. Also I wonder at times why George is so gaga over her. 

10 hours ago, TheGreenKnight said:

EDIT: I'm not sure if we should use spoiler tags and for what

I think all episodes that have been aired are fair game to talk about. I put some of my post in spoilers since I wasn't sure what episode Former Nun was on; if their local PBS station is like mine it's showing A Place to Call Home not in order. My station showed season 4 before season 3. 

10 hours ago, TheGreenKnight said:

Gino is probably the only central character outside Regina that I straight up don't like (and at least Regina is intended to be disliked). I enjoyed him in the first season and the actor is cute, but as soon as the two were married he became a monster. And it just dragged on into the fourth season with him complaining about anything and everything Anna did. I was so happy he was gone at the end and I hope he stays away. George is another character I go back and forth on, but I do like him and Sarah together. And the character's pretty badass when he takes charge of things. When he had the whole family meet in the drawing room in order to take back any power Regina had over him and told them all he was the father of Sarah's baby, I couldn't help cheering.

I agree, Gino is so unlikeable. I really hope that the writers don't try and put Anna & him back together. But of course they will. I guess those two are suppose to be the star-crossed-lovers that we're supposed to root for, but I just can't. I hope Anna gets a new love interest for next season. However, I read a recap of season 4 finale which said "that the greatest tragedy of the episode was the separation of our young lovers, Anna and Gino." To me it wasn't a tragedy but a relief.

I'm also with you on George I like him and then I don't. I was really annoyed when George showed up at Sarah's I think season 3? and was all "me marrying Regina is only temporary we'll be together soon." I was thinking ummm so George what's the plan are you going to divorce Regina or are you just assuming Sarah will be your mistress? 

10 hours ago, TheGreenKnight said:

And I'm hoping they bring Andrew Swanson back to be Olivia's love interest, too. I wasn't shocked at all the painter dropped her; he only ever seemed interested in sex from the moment they met. I expect that painting will come back to haunt her. I like that they've shown Elisabeth falling back into her old controlling habits, and her slip-outs of hatred for what James is. Seems realistic to me.

I wasn't shocked that the painter dropped her either; it was sad though. James gets nice love interests, but poor Olivia just keeps getting used. It would be interesting if the show brought back Andrew. With Anna unattached would he go after Olivia or Anna? I actually kind of liked Andrew. Yes he was at times an ass, but as I recall he did have redeeming moments. At the time I know I was suppose to root for Anna & Gina, but I found myself more interested in Andrew as a potential love interest for Anna. I never really got on the Gino & Anna bandwagon.

I was a bit confused on the finale when Olivia said that staying gave her a purpose. What purpose exactly was she talking about? The purpose of keeping James's secret?

10 hours ago, TheGreenKnight said:

As for Regina, I'm glad they had the balls to actually push her to the ledge rather than just be all bluster with no pay-off. 

I also liked that the show really had Regina go nuts. Although, she makes a good villain, I would love it if Regina did not make an appearance in season 5. I want the show to move on to different villains and maybe it will with Sir Richard, but I have a feeling that Regina will play a big role in S5.

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I love this show so much, and I'm glad there's a forum for it now. Just a few character observations:

  • Regina: that she was introduced in an episode titled "Cane Toad" was spot on. A poisonous creature introduced into an ecosystem to eliminate a local pest. Failed to do that and instead became a bigger and virtually impossible to eradicate menace instead.
  • Anna: in the end, a total hypocrite. Spent most of the series trying to out everyone else's secrets either because she thought she might personally gain from their exposure or from a misguided sense that everyone would be better off knowing all the most deeply painful things about each other, which didn't stop her from marrying Gino in spite of knowing that she wouldn't be able to give him what he most wanted out of life -- children.
  • Elizabeth: I hated her in the beginning, but for me she became the most improved character on the show. Turns out she was only a mean ice queen because of circumstances -- although she was damn good at it -- and when freed from needing to control everyone around her, became a force for good. I hope she lives through the end of the series.

I'm looking forward to the next season, even though the last season's finale made a really good series finale. Everyone got what they'd deserved or bargained for though I'm sorry that Sir Richard and Regina still have the potential to be loose cannons going forward, because I think they were both already well dealt with.

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1 hour ago, CoderLady said:

I'm looking forward to the next season, even though the last season's finale made a really good series finale. Everyone got what they'd deserved or bargained for though I'm sorry that Sir Richard and Regina still have the potential to be loose cannons going forward, because I think they were both already well dealt with.

I agree that S4's last episode really did work for a series finale, and I thought it was the series finale until the Sir Richard scene.  I keep wondering how the real finale will play out. 

ETA: What really made it feel like a series finale to me was the scene between Sarah and Elizabeth. Those two started out as adversaries and it feels like the show should end with them becoming friends. Well friends isn't really the right word, but I'm tired and can't seem to come up with a different word.

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I stuck with this show out of absolute love for James and Sarah.   During the early seasons it often felt like they were in a rush to insert every primetime soap cliche that had ever been invented, with

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Olivia buying a baby, Sarah's long lost husband coming back and then being completely wasted as a character, and that bizzare one-time framing element of Sarah recounting the whole story to Olivia's grand-daughter who looks just like her even though they aren't genetically related.

  But Jame's story as he went through gay conversion torture and Sarah's, a leftist holocaust survivor were rare and powerful enough to hold me.  I did appreciate that the 4th season brought everything back to the social/political drama of the era, and apparently S5 is going to be on the same lines, (with a 4 year time jump) so that's good.  I think Gino has left the show for good, and I kind of wish Regina would as well, since she's crossed a line that there's no coming back from. 

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3 hours ago, Fireball said:

Also I wonder at times why George is so gaga over her. 

Yeah...if there were a stunning beauty in the part--and maybe some with the small bone structure/stature of George, that would make for better TV.   

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3 hours ago, Fireball said:

My station showed season 4 before season 3. 

Yikes!   Yeah, I don't know what episode I'm on--I think we're in Season 4.   This probably doesn't help: a description of Saturday's (tomorrow's) show.    Sarah's annoyance at an invasion of her privacy turns to anger. 

I don't mind if I read "spoilers" here.  As far as I remember, Regina has not shot the officer yet--and it's okay with me to know that.

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1 hour ago, Glade said:

I stuck with this show out of absolute love for James and Sarah.   During the early seasons it often felt like they were in a rush to insert every primetime soap cliche that had ever been invented

But Jame's story as he went through gay conversion torture and Sarah's, a leftist holocaust survivor were rare and powerful enough to hold me.  I did appreciate that the 4th season brought everything back to the social/political drama of the era, and apparently S5 is going to be on the same lines, (with a 4 year time jump) so that's good. 

I got a bit tired of all the soap clichés that I quit the show for awhile. I mean like you said every single soap cliché was used! I agree, the gay conversion torture and holocaust survivor were well done. I wish the show was less soap opera clichés and just more of a drama.

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Olivia buying a baby, Sarah's long lost husband coming back and then being completely wasted as a character, and that bizzare one-time framing element of Sarah recounting the whole story to Olivia's grand-daughter who looks just like her even though they aren't genetically related.

  

That whole scene was so bizarre! When I was watching I remember wondering if they were going to do that weird time jump thing all season and thinking if they do-- I'm out. I also felt like the jump ahead in time gave away so many spoilers. 

48 minutes ago, Former Nun said:

Yikes!   Yeah, I don't know what episode I'm on--I think we're in Season 4.   This probably doesn't help: a description of Saturday's (tomorrow's) show.    Sarah's annoyance at an invasion of her privacy turns to anger. 

I don't mind if I read "spoilers" here.  As far as I remember, Regina has not shot the officer yet--and it's okay with me to know that.

Yeah, I was like what is going on when the show started back. It wasn't to hard to figure out. PBS probably did show the episodes in order and I just missed them. I did quit the show for a bit, but I didn't quit it for so long that I would have missed all of S3. IDK I think I've seen some of S3, but I really have no idea.

The description: Sarah's annoyance at an invasion of her privacy turns to anger reminds me of season 1. Where Doris snoops in Sarah's rooms and finds out that Sarah is not her real name. Sarah is angry over the invasion of her privacy and refuses to answer Jack's questions. 

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So happy to see this listed as a forum.   Love the show.   There was a story about the show was cancelled then started up again because it was so popular.  And they had to scurry around to produce it.  I think it messed up one part of it accidently and caused some confusion, but don't remember the details.  I watched on Netflix, not sure if PBS carries it where I live.....this was news to me. I will have to check out.   If it is on PBS, I would happily watch again.     I like Jack, the Doctor, a lot.   In real life he is married to the wild and crazy (in a good way) artist  woman who plays Elizabeth's daughter.   I forget her name, it's been a long time since I saw it.   Elizabeth is amazing.   Just when you want to strangle her, and realize how mean she is, she puts on that smirk  that I want to slap off her face.    Such a conniver. The actress is phenomenal.  She always made me think of one of our great actresses who's name escapes me.  Gosh, getting older is for the birds.  I will think of it as soon as I hit send!!!  Oops, I just did.  Kathy Bates.

  Also, I meant to add that the whole cast is terrific.   Regina was great but bored with the plot, she sure added a lot to the story.    I agree with everyone else about Gino.   I would have liked him a lot more if had not turned into a domineering so and so to Anna.  She deserved better

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I was so glad to see a forum for this show!  It is the soapiest of soaps but a lot of fun, especially s4.

I'm going to support Gino, although he annoys me a lot.  I think he's typical of a 50s man, especially one from a patriarchal society.  He wants his land, and he wants a biological son.  I also sympathize for his feelings about the Blighs who happily trade in lies and seem to buy their way into anything they want.  Gino is a simple man and he hates the subterfuge (including using Rose who he likes as a person) even as he loved Anna.  Anna was right, Rose would be the perfect woman for him.

Since I started watching in s4, I find Elizabeth awesome. I don't think I would have liked her in previous seasons when she was dominating everyone to get her way.  Poor James, but that treatment for homosexuality was typical. He's lucky he didn't get a lobotomy.

The character I have difficulty liking is George. I know he's supposed to be the romantic hero but he's too arbitrary, too officious for my liking.

Regina is a real "love to hate" character and kudos to the actress for that. IMO Sir Richard can leave now.

On 2017-06-30 at 1:52 PM, Fireball said:

I was a bit confused on the finale when Olivia said that staying gave her a purpose. What purpose exactly was she talking about? The purpose of keeping James's secret?

If I were to meet Olivia in real life, we'd have nothing to talk about.  But I so appreciate how she is written her.  So typical of many 50s woman who only saw themselves through the lens of their men.  She thought her marriage to James was her happy ending, and then found out that he is gay. Then she broke society's rules with her painter, only to realize he was just using her.  She tries so hard but her imagination of herself is so limited, so circumscribed by her environment.

I think Olivia's purpose came out of her conversation with Sarah, and is something we'll only find out next season.

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There are 45 episodes in the first four seasons/series.

According to some media sources I found through Google, season five began filming in February, so the next season/series will air later this year.

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Season five takes place four years after the season four finale, in 1958.

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What season is airing on PBS right now?  I only became a viewer this year.

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My PBS station, WNED, just finished season 4 and is doing re-runs in the afternoon.

I only started watching this last season. What I wish I had know:

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Sarah met George and the other Blighs on a ship returning to Australia.  George fell for her.  Elizabeth opposed the pairing and she was the one who brought in Regina, the sister of George's dead wife, to break up George and Sarah.  Anna is the biological daughter of Caroline but Caroline was unmarried and she gave Anna to her brother and his wife to raise.

This show does a good job of reminding me of just how strong the hold of the Catholic Church was in the 50s.  Sara gets fired for saying that it wasn't the Jews who killed Christ but the Romans.  It wasn't until the Second Vatican Council in the mid 60s that Pope Paul IV repudiated it. 

Also Gina saying that he can't divorce Anna because he would be ex-communicated.  Probably true too. I wanted to marry in the Catholic Church in the 80s and couldn't unless his marriage was annulled, in spite of the existence of two children.

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Where I am it's airing Sundays at 7 pm after the baking show.  I must have missed some episodes.  I remember the blonde nurse returning to Australia on a ship and saving this closeted gay guy from suicide. Then there was a whole lot of soapy drama about his marriage and his mother being nasty to blonde nurse for no good reason at all.  And a couple of weeks ago I saw an episode where the nasty matriarch had a heart attack.

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It's unfortunate that Masterpiece didn't bring this show under its umbrella, because people are getting random episodes depending on their area. One of my local stations is MPT and they aired the third and fourth episodes from the fourth series last Thursday. The fourth episode was when the Prime Minister visited Ash Park. As much as I can't stand Regina (a mustache-twirler if there ever was one), that red dress she was wearing during dinner was gorgeous.

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I'm working my way through the much anticipated season 4, just finished the fourth episode, and while I know there are 8 more episode in which things can (and will) go awry,

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I'm over the moon at Regina getting the verbal bitch slapping from both Elizabeth and George, and at Sir Richard's stabbing.  Too bad Elizabeth didn't aim lowering with that one, though.

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50 minutes ago, Popples said:

 The fourth episode was when the Prime Minister visited Ash Park. As much as I can't stand Regina (a mustache-twirler if there ever was one), that red dress she was wearing during dinner was gorgeous.

Regina does have some gorgeous dresses! 

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Whoever is responsible for dressing the cast has a dream job!  I especially love Carolyn's progressive style of dress.   

What American show(s) would u compare it to?

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I think many of the clothes are gorgeous.  Anna's red and blue suit, most of Georgina's dresses, and I thought Carolyn's wedding dress, with removable train I hope, was brilliant.

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2 hours ago, alegria said:

What American show(s) would u compare it to?

Well...Mad Men was pretty good.  I started as a stenographer in 1959...and my clothes were well represented in Mad Men's ongoing seasons.

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7 hours ago, Former Nun said:

Well...Mad Men was pretty good.  I started as a stenographer in 1959...and my clothes were well represented in Mad Men's ongoing seasons.

I loved Mad Men!  I grew up in the 70s and totally related to the clothing selections on MM.

People just seem to forget about the space race and the moon landing.  Sad.

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I watched all the seasons through Acorn.  By the end of Season 4, I was kind of getting bored.   Regina had gotten so over the top in her villain role that her continued involvement with the family didn't seem plausible, and short of her blowing up the apartment complex...err Ash Park...there wasn't a lot more to do with her.    

I also really hated Gino.  I realized that aside from the first season's forbidden romance, the writers really had no idea what to do with he and Anna as a couple, so they made him into a huge jerk as a way to finally get him off the show.  

I really did like Sarah.  She doesn't put up with any crap, and I think I could watch her slap Regina over and over.  I also liked how her relationship with Elizabeth developed, even if I did think they really, really mellowed out Elizabeth after the first season, and perhaps gave a lot of her old character traits to Regina.      

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Spoilers is right.  I'm watching it on PBS and haven't seen the episode mentioned above.  Oh well...it has become kinda boring, so I don't care if I'm SPOILED!

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bizzare one-time framing element of Sarah recounting the whole story to Olivia's grand-daughter who looks just like her even though they aren't genetically related.

I was thinking maybe Olivia eventually has other children with someone else.  I don't think it was said that the granddaughter was the product of her first son, or that she couldn't get pregnant again after the problems with her first pregnancy.  I also have to think there will eventually come a time when she just officially divorces James so she can move on with her life.  I'd think it would really suck for her to have to stick around Ash Park while her husband is off playing house with someone else.   

And I forgot to mention my favorite cheesey moment: Where Olivia is looking at her wedding album and realizes when she puts her thumb over her face in the picture that James and her brother have somehow chosen this particular picture to stare longingly at each other (while everyone else in the picture is looking forward). 

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8 hours ago, txhorns79 said:

By the end of Season 4, I was kind of getting bored.   Regina had gotten so over the top in her villain role that her continued involvement with the family didn't seem plausible, and short of her blowing up the apartment complex...err Ash Park...there wasn't a lot more to do with her.    

I agree, I got kind of bored with the show; I quit watching for awhile. Regina just stayed too long imo which is why I really hope she doesn't have such a big role in the coming season. If season 5 turns out to be more Regina drama I think I'll be out.

8 hours ago, txhorns79 said:

I really did like Sarah.  She doesn't put up with any crap, and I think I could watch her slap Regina over and over.  I also liked how her relationship with Elizabeth developed, even if I did think they really, really mellowed out Elizabeth after the first season, and perhaps gave a lot of her old character traits to Regina.      

I was way more interested in the Sarah & Elizabeth relationship than I was in the Sarah & George relationship. I agree, that they really mellowed Elizabeth as the show went on.

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I agree, I got kind of bored with the show; I quit watching for awhile. Regina just stayed too long imo which is why I really hope she doesn't have such a big role in the coming season. If season 5 turns out to be more Regina drama I think I'll be out.

At some point, it's just like: "How crazy and evil can she be and still remain a person who can exist within the reality of the show?" 

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I think the key to her evilness was that she was always smart enough to get her victim alone and hone in on his/her greatest weakness. Either by her threats, lies, or flattery, each one thought she knew them perfectly. They managed to bring her down by exposing her demonstrating this tactic. I'm just sorry she's still alive though batshit crazy, because you know she'll get just better enough to fool her captors and get out.

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Interesting casting for the women on the show:  Sara is larger-boned than George.   Same with Carolyn and Jack.   Elizabeth and Douglas.

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That Rose is a vile little creature, isn't she?  Regina and Rose make me think of Snidely Whiplash and his faithful servant, Mutt, from the old cartoon. And Gino is proving to be a real disappointment. Rose is a grown woman making grown-up decisions- no one has tricked her into anything, Gino. She knows that what she's doing is wrong, she's just enjoying the crumbs that Regina throws her too much to care.

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I was surprised when they didn't immediately sack Rose after she kidnapped Georgie. As terrible as it was that she delivered a stillborn, she seemed unstable and shouldn't have been around the baby.

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Just watched Episode 12. Gino and Rose deserve each other. I REFUSE to feel any sympathy for Rose- she was not some " duped innocent"- she was a willing participant. 

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4 hours ago, TVForever said:

Just watched Episode 12. Gino and Rose deserve each other. I REFUSE to feel any sympathy for Rose- she was not some " duped innocent"- she was a willing participant. 

Neither do I. She keeps talking about people being mean to her, but no one really was, even after she kidnapped the baby, which she should have been fired then and there. Olivia still liked and sympathized with her, but Rose was quick to turn on all of them once Regina got in her ear. She wasn't even subtle about it.

I can't even feel bad for Gino. All he's done is bitch and moan that Anna can't give him a son, but acts shocked at the notion of the marriage being annulled. He even said that marriage was for children and without them it's meaningless.

I really wanted to slap Sarah for not going up, or at least sending the baby, to Ash Park when they told her Regina was on the loose.

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On ‎07‎/‎11‎/‎2017 at 1:34 PM, txhorns79 said:

At some point, it's just like: "How crazy and evil can she be and still remain a person who can exist within the reality of the show?" 

I sped through the first three seasons like the wind, but the first half of season 4 dragged for me.  A lot of it is because of Regina, and the whole Anna and Gino storyline really let the season down as well.   It did pick up in the last 4 or 5 episodes, although I'd started fast-forwarding through any scene Regina had with Sgt. Taylor.

On ‎07‎/‎28‎/‎2017 at 8:31 AM, TVForever said:

Just watched Episode 12. Gino and Rose deserve each other. I REFUSE to feel any sympathy for Rose- she was not some " duped innocent"- she was a willing participant. 

Yeah, after how nice Anna was to her, and how forgiving Olivia was after she kidnapped baby Georgie, for her to fall so easily for Regina's bullshit meant, for me, that she was either almost as bad as Regina or she was mentally defective.  Either way, good riddance.  And to Gino as well.  Anna, you deserve better.

 

Oh, and I have to add: I hated the way Jack and Caroline's lovely wedding, which I'd been greatly anticipating, was intercut with Regina and Taylor having sex.  Really?!?!?  UGH!

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One scene with Rose that sticks in my mind is when Anna and Gino come back from Italy and bring Rose a scarf and her response is all meh Regina's scarfs are nicer.

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I just watched the season 5 premier...

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Ho hum!  There was very little to like here.  Basically Inverness is a really conservative small town, filled with racism, homophobia, sexism... I'm glad the aboriginees actually exist on the show finally, but I don't like that Henry is now racist and overall being turned into a villain, Jack is homophobic, Sarah doesn't want to marry a non-jew and supports her friend in forcing his teenage daughter to go to Israel against her will, Elizabeth's husband is coughing up blood, and we don't see James AT ALL throughout the entire episode; also missing are Olivia, Jame's/Olivia's son and James' working class love interest.   Regina is back as a blond ('her natural color'--it seems hard to believe that the character really thought dying her hair black was flattering) and angling to get out of the mental institution.   But at least Gino is really gone and Anna is trying to move on.    Sarah and Mr. Blythe were sweet together and their son is cute, but that wasn't enough to save this.

I really hope James appears next episode--perhaps the actor is on paternity leave?  I know I read in an interview that he went away to film Outlander when his wife was just about to give birth and got back just in time for their child to be born, so I'm certain the two shooting schedules weren't conflicting with each other. 

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7 hours ago, Glade said:

but I don't like that Henry is now racist and overall being turned into a villain, Jack is homophobic,

I think Henry and Jack (and Jack is my favorite so defending Henry in this episode isn't my first choice) are really snapping at easy things when other things are on with their lives.  I think Henry is struggling with fitting in in Inverness, especially with James away, and with the knowledge that James is away in London where Olivia's brother and James's former lover is now single.  

I think Jack is struggling with giving up power in the hospital.  Work was his life for a lot of years when he didn't have a romantic life due to his war injuries and now Mr. Fox has descended had has started making changes in a place where Jack has felt confident.  Then he can't go home and get a break from his frustrations with Henry because Henry is also at Ash Park.   And he suspects Caro is bored to death and they are fighting so there is no happy place in the world right now for Jack.

Is there some institutional racism and homophobia with both characters?  Maybe.  Probably.  Jack struggled with his feelings about James in season 2.  As long as both Henry and Jack try to do better than their instincts, I think that's all you can ask.  That stuff is ingrained so deeply... realizing you're reacting from a place you don't particularly like and acting differently is really, truly the best most people can do.

Jack doesn't out Henry, despite the part where having Henry out at the hospital is probably in Jack's personal best interest.   Henry is a better surgeon than Inverness is likely to get without Henry's desire to be with James so Jack would have more influence.  And Jack probably isn't wrong that Henry needs to be careful about how often and from where he posts those letters, Inverness is a small town and people will talk.  You certainly don't want Doris posting a letter a day from Henry to James.  She'd start talking and Henry has always been very careful about that sort of thing, even in the city, as a way of keeping his reputation.   

Henry goes and tries, in a very clumsy way, to make amends with Riggs.  He doesn't fully succeed but I think his desire to apologize at the end was from the right place.  

I suspect James and Olivia are going make an appearance in the next, they are certainly both series regulars this season.  

Reggie's blonde hair cracked me up.  It is the Actress's natural color. And I absolutely could believe that she'd dye it because clearly George liked Elaine's dark hair and she so resembles Elaine.  However, I think we know that she was like 13 when they met so that she would have started dying at such a  young age is less likely.  

George is EASILY my least favorite character in the series (more than Reggie and that asshole who raped Carolyn).   I don't think the differences in their faith will be a huge stumbling block for Sarah and George but I do think it is a real conversation to have as they move forward with their relationship especially as she's been confronted with interfaith relationships with Isaac and um... the girl with TB who is all grown up now...   um... yeah, her.  

I suspect if anything derails them it will be the fact that George is an absolute idiot who keeps getting himself involved in schemes perpetrated by Reggie and that asshole who raped Carolyn.  

That kid who plays David sitting mostly silently in the background of scenes listening as his parents/ and or George and Caro talk... um.. yeah... totally don't need to see a lot of him.  So creepy.  He can pop in a scene an episode so we are reminded that his parents love him... but David can be with the help or out playing a lot of the time.  That would be great.  

I am cool with Carolyn chaffing under her lack of opportunities in Inverness.  That is something she openly worried about before she married Jack.   But watching Carolyn and Jack's marriage fall apart Anna and Gino style with Jack being a boor is something that will break my ship little heart and hard.  Hope these two can by the end of the series come to some compromises that work for both of them.

So glad that Gino is gone.  Won't be missed.  

Lung cancer for Goddard?  Feel bad for Elizabeth especially if after all her worry bout her heath issues it is his health issues that cut their time together short.

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We won't get Season 5 until Thanksgiving here in the US (via Acorn).  I was going to give up on the show as it became more and more soapy, but guess I'll be back in spite of myself.  I found the 3rd and 4th seasons disappointing after the first two seasons.  So many of the characters have changed.  Gentle George has turned into a totally different person.  Like Former Nun, I've often wished for an alternative Sarah.  I know Marta Dusseldorp is very accomplished and much admired in Australia, but I find her Sarah verges on the smug and self righteous.  From the comments I've read about the new episode I don't have high hopes for any return to the sensibility of the first two seasons.     

 

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On 10/15/2017 at 4:13 PM, USAFAN said:

Sarah verges on the smug and self righteous

Sarah isn't supposed to be smug and self righteous?  I thought that was what they were going for.  I think they think it is endearing.

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On 10/15/2017 at 4:13 PM, USAFAN said:

From the comments I've read about the new episode I don't have high hopes for any return to the sensibility of the first two seasons.     

The show has always been super soapy to me but I don't find this season to be as over the top soapy as the previous two.   Everybody is miserable so I'm not finding it as much fun as previous seasons but it isn't, yet, over the top in its soapiness.

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David Berry was sequentially filming episodes of both APTCH and Outlander and having a first child while this season was being filmed. So I expect he’ll be in many but not all of the episodes. Glad to hear that Acorn has announced a Thanksgiving airing for the US; Outlander ends its season in early December.

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FINALLY I have finished season 4, I have been waiting to be able to post here without getting spoiled. 

For whatever reason, I LOVED this show. I know it's OTT soap and Regina just chewed her way through scenery with so much camp - but the gorgeous wardrobe and beautiful Australian scenery carried me through. It even got me reading about the Italians in New South Wales in the 1950s, I guess that's a whole piece of history. When I looked at the credits I was interested to see crew with Australian sounding first names and Italian last names. 

Only minor complaints with the plot holes along the way. Like where did Sarah's Jewish friends in Inverness go when René was being buried? That was at least one man. Then there was the bitchy nurse at the hospital whose character went nowhere. Rose should have been dismissed around 50 times before getting to the end, which I didn't get because Elizabeth was so easily able to let go of Harry's cousin/sister (? I forget). 

How far away exactly is Inverness supposed to be from Sydney? Because Carolyn seemed to imply it was a world of distance, but everyone on this show is constantly running back and forth between Ash Park and Sydney like the two places are just over the river from each other. Every time someone gets a little bored, it's like, "I know! I have the perfect idea! Let's go to Sydney!" Yes, Sydney, now there's a change!

On the other hand, I didn't mind a lot of the plot contrivances or small conveniences. Like how they'd say "I've called Gino and Anna to come to Ash Park to discuss this" and next scene there they are, having already had the "discussion" and moving on to whatever they are going to do about it. It did keep the pace up.

I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who was relieved when René kicked the bucket. That was going nowhere fast. I can also do without anymore Gino, unless his character changes. He's too homophobic and angry and chauvinist for me to like him that much. I do think the idea of him and Rose is interesting. 

I don't have a problem with Regina coming back Kimberly Shaw-style as long as they don't send her through the same hoops they already have. 

The policeman's death went nowhere interesting. I'm not even sure why they made that choice.

I loved Elizabeth's character trajectory.

Sarah's character was mostly OK with me, but as others have mentioned, she can be a bit much. She really reminds me of Claire from Outlander. They're even both nurses. 1st season Sarah was such a Mary Sue character - of course everyone would be in love with her and women would distrust her, etc. I liked it a lot when the story finally expanded beyond Sarah's world and the show became more than just about her. 

I wouldn't mind seeing Gordon Walsh move to Inverness and become a love interest for poor Olivia, or even for Anna. I wish we'd seen side-by-side scenes of him with both actresses to see how much chemistry they look like they may have had. Abby Earl looks super tall. 

Am I the only one who thought Bert's chained, rotted body was going to surface every time someone went swimming? Like the cadaver in the Poltergeist swimming pool. lol. 

Phew! Last, also agree that Season 4 finale could also have been the Series Finale - but I'm glad to hear it's coming back for season 5. 

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I agree with you about Rose... she should have been given the boot when she "kidnapped" Georgie.  And poor Amy (Harry's sister) gets the boot for talking with the witch Regina. I hope Rose and Gino ran off into the sunset together.... couldn't stand either one. It's nice Elizabeth has become a softer, forgiving person. But IRL it doesn't seem possible that her intellectual charms would be enough to attract a Handsome Dan like (whatever his name is...)  I know it would end the program, but I wish George would find a new love and return to being the sweetheart he was in the first two series -:)

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