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The Dresses: Good, Bad & Fugly

To the girl with the Jenny Packham dress:  You were getting a $6800 dress for $2500 and you wanted them to take off more money?  Kudos to the owners for not giving in to her 'sad face with puppy dog eyes."  Tell you what, bride to be, why not kick in $500 and split the difference to help your mother out.  What a spoiled brat!

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I liked how they showed the owners going to designer showrooms last night and not the back of some bridal store in the middle of the back of nowhere. You know the showrooms are where they get most of their stock and now we got to see it. Maybe those big places wanted to wait and see what the show actually was before allowing them to film.

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May 9, 2014 episode:  I wonder if the scenario with the budget-busting mom was all staged.  Budget was $2,000, but they get to the store and oh, no! Mom says budget is now $1,200 - she's gonna teach the little one a lesson, that one.  Daughter finds her dream gown that is under budget, but since mom doesn't like it she's not going to buy it.  I'd tell mom, thanks but no thanks, I'll buy my own gown.  (And the mom looked strangely familiar to me, but I can't place it.)

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Oh, that $1200 mother had crazy eyes.  Her behavior was really strange.  Also strange, was how her daughter just took it, like she had no choice.  She's not a child, she's in medical school.  A doctor is supposed to make hard decisions.  She could decide to get married at a Justice of the Peace and pay for everything herself, rather than remain under her mother's thumb, for instance.  Instead she kept looking around sadly like, "well, everything I do is wrong".

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Going Against the Dress Grain episode: I'm worried about the girl who is going to lose 10 pounds to fit into her perfect dress. It's never a good idea to buy clothes assuming you'll get smaller and it's doubly terrible when it's something important like a wedding dress.

 

I don't think steampunk girl actually knows what steampunk is. She just seems to want black. Which was fine for the David Tutera girls who were goths. But steampunk isn't just a black dress with a corset back. Why didn't she go on etsy or to a special retailer to get a custom dress? There are people who know steampunk. 

 

Something Different, Something Blue episode: Why would you try a dress you can't afford. I get that a lot of the girls who come here have an expensive dress in mind, but you're setting yourself up for failure when you try on a dress that costs thousands of dollars if you can't afford a dress that costs thousands of dollars. Also, she had terrible taste. Why would you make all those alterations to the last dress she tried on? You could totally find the dress she ended up creating elsewhere in the store.

 

The girl who wanted the blue dress was cute. I liked her. I wonder if there's some way of dyeing dresses or of ordering the dress in a colored fabric from the designer. Anyway, if you're determined to have color I don't know why you're shopping bridal. Evening wear, prom wear, and designer's personal lines are where you're going to find color.

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I don't think steampunk girl actually knows what steampunk is. She just seems to want black. Which was fine for the David Tutera girls who were goths. But steampunk isn't just a black dress with a corset back. Why didn't she go on etsy or to a special retailer to get a custom dress? There are people who know steampunk. 

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My daughter watched this episode with me, and wondered why this young woman didn't look online. She said she saw a beautiful steampunk wedding dress plus accessories on a steampunk costume website for around $1200.00, and said it was gorgeous.

 

I did love the dress the young woman selected, but agree it wasn't steampunk. I hope she didn't take it home, whip out her hot glue gun, and start sticking gears and cogs all over the dress. Because it was fairly obvious she didn't really understand the steampunk style, she would ruin it.

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Oh, that $1200 mother had crazy eyes. Her behavior was really strange. Also strange, was how her daughter just took it, like she had no choice. She's not a child, she's in medical school.  A doctor is supposed to make hard decisions. She could decide to get married at a Justice of the Peace and pay for everything herself, rather than remain under her mother's thumb, for instance. Instead she kept looking around sadly like, "well, everything I do is wrong".

 

That mother was terrifying! We've seen boatloads of momzillas on these shows, but she was so implacable with her dead eyes. And yes, her daugher definitely knew better than to even hint at going against her.

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I kind of enjoyed both this week's shows.  Thought 'Cinderella bride' was kind of adorable, and I liked the dress she picked.  I usually don't like the not-white dresses, unless there's some cultural reason, it often comes off kind of arrogant to me.  Like I'm so unique and different and the rest of you are boring.  But I liked her.  Don't know what was wrong with Steampunk bride though, I know someone doing a Steampunk theme and have seen plenty of pictures of white Victorian style dresses that fit it perfectly - with a little white top hat.  Still, I actually kind of liked the dress she ended up with.  

 

Also, thank you show for sparing us obnoxious relatives this week.   

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I don't understand what exactly steampunk is except Victorian with gears but the dress the girl picked was beautiful.

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Tonight's episode with the medical student bride (Noelle?) shouldn't be buying a wedding dress since it appears she doesn't even have enough money for a hair brush.  Good grief, girl.  You're going wedding dress shopping and will be on national TV.  Comb your hair!!!

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I know, she drove me nuts too.  I admit, I'm not always groomed to perfection, but I at least brush my hair, whether I plan to appear on tv or not.  I'm guessing she puts more stock into her brains rather than her appearance - not to be catty, but she looked rather rough for being in her early thirties. My niece is much the same - brilliant (she is currently getting her master's in genetics at Johns Hopkins) and though she is quite attractive, she doesn't bother to make herself up at all.  It seems a lot of girls don't think they can be beautiful and brainy at the same time.

 

I was irritated by the saleswoman insisting on showing Shani (?) gowns priced well over $1000 when she had made it clear she (sensibly) wanted to spend as little as possible on a dress she would only wear once.  This is not Kleinfelds - they have plenty of beautiful dresses for well under her $1000 budget.  I know it was all for show and she would end up with a nice dress for a few hundred dollars, but it bugged me all the same.

 

I was also annoyed by the last bride who insisted she had to have that one dress and wouldn't even consider trying anything else.  Big surprise - that very dress had just arrived that day and was available.  All that said, she really did look nice in it, so I guess she knew what she was doing.  I was really surprised, though, when they said it retailed for $850 or so.  Her budget was $1000 - she didn't necessarily have to go to Vows to be able to afford it.  It's nice she got it for less, but it just was a surprise that it was in her budget all along when she was complaining she couldn't find it anywhere.

 

Oh, I almost forgot - the bride who couldn't choose between two dresses, one within her budget, one three times her budget.  What to do, what to do?  Her mother was paying, after all.  Glad she did the more responsible thing and chose the less expensive one.  Of course, the most responsible thing would be to pay for your gown yourself.

 

Lord help me, I do love these wedding dress shows!

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Comb your hair!!!

 

And for my sake as a viewer, put it up!! I can't see the danged neckline or details of the back half the time because your stupid flyaway hair is covering everything. My feelings should matter at least as much as those of your frequently-dreadful and unhelpful entourage members. ;)

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The first episode with the busload of brides was kind of fun. I think they were rushing a bit so we didn't get the full experience. Was the bride with her fiance in a different part of the store? I don't think we've ever seen that area. I didn't think the beach bride ended up with a terrible remarkable dress but she seemed easily swayed. As long as tons of people tell her she's beautiful on the day of the wedding (which duh, happens for most brides) I think she'll be happy.

 

The second episode had more annoying brides. I liked the bride who left with the Sottero Midgley dress. Comb your hair and whiny needed to shut up. CYH was worse than Nina Garcia. She looked like a hobo.

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Unkempt bride is not a medical student in the academically rigorous sense (or in any sense, really).  She said she's attending the National School of Natural Medicine which does not grant MD or DO degrees and which many would not think of as an actual medical school.  Modern medical science and technology are generally viewed in a negative light there and the admission requirements are not heavy on the math and sciences (or even good grades; you can pay the tuition; you're accepted!) as a traditional med school would be. They're more about karma and distrust of traditional western medicine. When she graduates, she will be a naturopath or wellness expert, she won't have a degree (not even a bachelor's or master's), just a certificate.  Maybe I'm prejudiced because I have an actal MD and an actual license to practice, but this gal won't be a doctor, she will be a quack, IMO (and, yes, I do refer my patients for treatment by alternative practitioners including acupuncturists, chiropractors and herbalists, just ones with actual degrees and licenses).  Anyway, the hairdo she sported on the show kinda goes along with the image her school projects, she may be trying for dreads at some point.  She probably makes her own shampoo at home or thinks washing her hair impairs her aura.

 

http://www.ncnm.edu/academic-programs.php

 

Back to the show, the dress she chose was horrendous, it looked like the result of a game of 'toilet paper bridal gown' played at a shower.  Maybe she should consider whipping one up at home from organic toilet tissue.  Maybe she can make the paper herself.

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I think chartering a bus from NYC is genius! TheVows owners should regularly do that to bring in brides - kind of like casinos providing the bus and they get gambling $$$ in return.

Bride with the messy hair was too cool in her own mind. She said she was a broke-ass but was trying on pretty expensive dresses.

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Hey, "edgy" bride from Wisconsin? Glad your tattoos are meaningful to you, but to the rest of us they're pretty nondescript-bordering-on-fugly. No need to show them off and especially no need to forgo that pretty dress with the black embellishments that fit you well and was everything you said you wanted!

 

Good thing I count getting worked up about these brides and entourages as my daily cardio.

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That Nanette bride, the larger lady who finally tried on that lace keyhole back dress, looked about as nice as she was ever going to get, and then she goes and whips out that "headpiece" that looked like she was trying for a bridal belly dancer look? Just, NO, honey. Just.No. And WTF was up with her clutching those stupid, insipid fake yellow bouquets so she could vote on her own dress. It's YOUR dress stupid, you can like it or not without the stupid fake flower bouquet. These brides who try to be cutsie irritate the fuck out of me.

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Prom Dress Bride- She definitely had the feel good story. I think the slightly sheer bodice was a bit too Pnina for me and the satin ruched skirt was just... no. But it seemed to make her happy and she had a great figure so she was going to look good in anything that fit. I find it a little suspicious that the other dresses she tried on clearly didn't fit.

 

Feather Allergy Bride- I'm kind of glad to see her sticking to her guns and not getting a $3500 dress (expensive for Vows) with so many issues. You should feel like you've got the perfect dress that makes you feel beautiful. I also like that the Vows team isn't pushy. Maybe they don't need to be since they are selling discounted dresses so someone will buy them unlike Kleinfeld's and whatever the one in Atlanta is called.

 

I used to automatically say Barb was my favorite consultant but I'm starting to like Amelia more. Who would you want to help you if you were shopping for a wedding dress (bearing in mind that the experience on the show is not the experience when you're actually shopping in the store)?

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Ashley- At least I think that was the name of the bride with two moms. Have we ever seen a gay couple go dress shopping with their daughter on any of these wedding dress shows before? Anyway, poor thing. The dress she chose isn't what I personally like but I thought her figure looked great in it. And honestly, her moms weren't dressed so fabulously that I felt like they should really be passing judgment. 

 

Taryn- She seemed to want a classy dress and then find it too boring. Everything she tried on looked almost identical but I guess great for her that she found something she was happy in.

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Lisa tonight was the WORST!  Sitting on the ground and having a tantrum over nothing was bad enough, but the way she was speaking to the consultant?!  If I was her mother I would've killed her for acting that way.  Whenever the consultant announced the designer and the 2 prices, and she snottily said 'yeah whatever" I wished the consultant would've refused to continue the appointment.  What a spoiled brat.  

 

I didn't love the dress Rachel (one who wanted a halter but entourage convined her to go strapless) ended up with, but I was so happy for her that they reduced it to $850 so she could afford it.  She seemed very sweet.  No idea why she didn't like her shoulders and collarbones because she was beautiful and petite -- she had nothing to worry about with her body.  

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I would love to know if Lisa's wedding ever happened, her mother in law looked (justly) horrified.

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I would last probably 2-3 hours as a consultant before I slapped a bitch. "Lordonia needs to work a little harder to find my dress." Whap!

 

From the glimpse we saw of the vow renewal bride's first dress that she hated, I thought It looked pretty nice. Let's not kid ourselves that a (guessing) size 26W is going to have an easy time of it.

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Vow renewal at 5 years? And why? oh because your father died a little while after you got married. That was the reason! No, you got a bunch of money when your father died which you can blow so you want to be the center of attention again so you are throwing a vow renewal. She looked like a big fat albino chicken.

 At size 28W I don't know how they had anything in her size. She was asking for something unusual. Oy

 

The woman who was at the Boston marathon bombing- well that was terrible for her but it seemed like the show was trying to exploit it. Like they only got on the show because of that. I loved her traditional girly princess gown and her personality and her friends.

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The bride who wanted to try on the dress that the other woman had on was right to look for that Allure dress. It looked really good on her. The strapless sweetheart dress she had on before that made her bust look really flat.

 

I'm glad the woman who was working in am ambulance during the bombing managed to find a dress in her size. I'm thinking they planned ahead for that. 

 

The third woman in the episode (the blond) had crazy eyes.

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I wonder what Tohni wrote in her emails because she clearly didn't like the dresses the stylist pulled. It was weird that she pulled so many things with color if Tohni wanted a white dress. The first dress she tried made her look huge. Who would that be for? Her ceremony dress looked good. She didn't seem high maintenance. It seemed like Alison was just pulling terrible dresses for her. She was happy the second she was in Leslie's choices.

 

I enjoyed all of Rick's chicken jokes. Yes, some people want to look "unique" but sometimes you have to take a step back and hear what non fashion people have to say. Except for the guys that don't like lace. They can go sit in the corner.

 

Becky with the 5 year vow renewal because her dad died? Please. Just say you didn't like your first dress. I thought she looked OK in the dress she thought was too traditional. The chicken dress wasn't that flattering. 

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Can somebody explain to me how this works?  The owners are buying and selling sample dresses, right? And isn't sample size a 6 or 8?  I thought that was the difference between this show and all other shows. The other shows, you try on a dress and then order it in your size. On this show, you try on the sample and the dress in your hand is the one you go home with.  Yet they seem to have dresses to fit everyone of every size, and we have seen many many brides on this show who weren't a 6 or 8. Even in plus size, I imagine there's a standard sample size of 20 or so. When they showed the owners buying that chicken dress, it did not look big enough to fit the bride, who was least a size 26 or 28. It seems like they would've had to add extra panels of fabric to make it fit, and wouldn't wide, featherless swaths of fabric up the sides and/or back ruin the look of the dress?

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They are also buying out of season stock from salons but that is a great question @sleepyjean because even if a salon carries some styles in various sizes they would still have most in sample size only. It wouldn't be economically feasible to carry hundreds of designs and also a full range of sizes.

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The owners have mentioned during their buying trips that they particularly look for dresses in larger sizes. I think most salons do carry a small selection of plus sizes, otherwise nobody over 150 lbs would be able to shop at all. The Vows website has a special section for "plus" gowns that are size 14 and up.

 

But yeah. I'm pretty sure dresses have been purchased in advance for the big brides on this show.

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My guess is that on shopping trips they pick up some larger gowns but when they're filming for the show they know about most (if not all) of the brides ahead of time and plan accordingly. So if they know they're getting a plus size bride, they'll make sure they have more plus items in stock and if that bride mentions that she wants a lace dress, they'll make sure they have lace dresses. We've discussed before how brides who regularly shop at Vows don't get all that special treatment with the consultants. I'm sure they don't have a giant selection of plus size gowns either... or the designers that some brides want. But part of the point of the show is to give the impression that it's a great shopping experience.

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I am so over these brides who have everybody they know come to their appointments. And the little gimmicky things they do with their entourage.

 

But the worst was the bitch that came in with flowers. She was a bitchy bride anyway, but anyway... She comes in with flowers and Allison asked her if those are the flowers for her wedding for matching the dress or whatever. Nope. 

 

Each member of her entourage (hate that term for just a bunch of friends and family wanting to be on TV) will point the flower bouquet up or down if they like it or not. You'd think they could tell her whether they like it or not in an easier way....like talking?

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It's been 1.5 years so I don't suppose this is coming back. It was my favorite of the gown shows just because we saw a larger variety.

You'd think TLC would at least update their website to let viewers know what's up with their programming, but no.

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