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Ryan's Wedding Special

This three part special is being touted in some circles as season six of MDL NY but I can't find anything official about it so I'm leaving this open for now as a non-episode formatted  thread.

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Ryan is my favorite but I have zero interest in wasting 3 hours on his wedding.

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I have a soft spot for this show and pretty much forgive it for everything. Not unexpectedly, I thought this was lovely. I was surprised that it included any real estate but that was nice to see as well.

Okay, Emilia. If your family is your "whole heart" that doesn't really leave much room for a husband, does it? I get that she's homesick and isolated living in a foreign country away from everything familiar, but giving up his life and religion and work and friends is a lot to ask of Ryan, too. The scene was recreated for the show, obviously, but it does represent the actual situation in their lives.

I had to look up Mani after Ryan mentioned it and his assertion that it's the "one village in all of Greece that had never been taken over by anybody else" isn't exactly true. But it makes a good sound bite.

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I hate this when the spouse or liver of a HW or a MDL becomes a focus of a show. Like I'm watching a show about them not you. It just feels like seeing someone get lauded for who they sleep with. 

Emilia has a temper huh? That's not gonna get old, Ry. 

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Just watching this now. So, Emilia is boo hooing about them not moving back to Greece? Hmm, scripted drama much? Ridiculous. Emilia has definitely had her lips plumped up a bit.

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I can't believe Ryan is 32. He looks 40 at least.  I thought Emilia was a lawyer for quite a while but they said on WWHL the other night that she just passed the BAR. She must be younger than she looks, too. 

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5 minutes ago, bichonblitz said:

She must be younger than she looks, too. 

From her timeline it sounded like she went to school, then came to NY, and almost immediately met Ryan-- so that would make her late 20s? Though where did she get the law degree? In London, or later?

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I'm not Emilia and my emotions weren't stirred up, but after she launched that tirade at him about wanting a woman who'd stay in a box and just fix him dinner or whatever it was, I laughed at Ryan's dry joke that he already tried to find that woman.

Have we ever seen him cry before? He seems to really break down in the preview clip. Weddings are stressful, y'all! (Not that I believe they ever genuinely tried to plan such an elaborate ceremony on their own.)

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Bummer, I used to like Emilia.  Lovely guilt trip she put on Ryan.  If her family is everything to her, why hasn't she been in Greece for the last five years?  That was her choice, and yet she acts like it would be unfair for Ryan not to pick up and move after working hard to build an empire for the last however many years. Brat....

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OMG, three damn shows about their wedding??!!!  I don't give a rat's ass!!!  I'm in it for the property porn & not all this "crap".  Andy Cohen is insane (& certifiable)!!!

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If the drama is real, it's impressive that they laid it out for the cameras.  They must be getting paid a lot for this special.

Or they're good actors,. Ryan was an actor but Emilia seems to be showing she's pissed very well.

I somehow doubt with 45 employees that he has to personally do showings, on Sundays.  That must be for the cameras.

Maybe he and the producers came up with the idea for him to be busy and blow off Emilia a few times, to elicit anger from her.  Or she can really act.

Dont know which makes Bravo seem worse.

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Congratulations, show.  You made me go from previously liking Emilia okay to actively disliking her, and in only one episode!   If they keep this up, I'm going to end up disliking my previous favorite, Ryan, as well, just for being stupid enough to want to marry her.  If we're getting 2 more episodes of this crap, I foresee by the end of it I'm going to be hoping Ryan comes to his senses and dumps her ass.  Then we can see whether she goes back to Greece or not.  I'd bet no.

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yeah that whole thing about

Ryan: "what would I do for work there?"

Emilia: "Does it matter?"

DOES IT MATTER? You're living in a ridiculously expensive apartment paid for by his very lucrative career and you wonder whether work might be a little bit important to him?

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Well is there any indication that she asked for those things?

He sprang the apt. on her.  At least they didn't show her talking about wanting something like that.

Anyways, the drama is probably manufactured, though you wouldn't have expected "reality" stars to be so convincing about being mad at each other.

Ryan boasts about the billions of real estate he's sold.  If that's true, that $4 million apt. probably was bought for cash or could easily have been.  You'd think he'd have tens of millions in the bank.

They also never show that they apparently had some arguments about decorating the apt.

If she really had a great job offer in Zurich that she passed up, maybe in her mind she's not asking much of him to walk away from his business, especially if they have enough to really live well without ever working again if they don't want to.

But he also alluded to his theater days and how he's never going back to not having money.  Yet he also talks about being responsible to his 45 employees for their livelihoods.  Noble but if there was ever a downturn, no matter how hard he works, he'd lay people off and not have too much trauma about doing so.

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7 hours ago, scrb said:

Well is there any indication that she asked for those things?

 

not at all, which is why I worded it the way I did. I don't necessarily think the "lifestyle" is that important to her, but it clearly is to him. She can't possibly be surprised at that by this point. 

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Can't believe Bravo filmed four episodes about Ryan & Emilia's wedding in Greece.......one hour of  Emilia's whining about having to actually having to participate in planning her own the wedding & her father's "interrogation ,"of Ryan was more than enough for me.  I thought the show was called "Million Dollar Listing, NY," not "Million Dollar Weddings," or "Million Dollar Newlyweds."

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After the first show, I deleted MDLNY from my DVR.  I'm "in it" for the property porn, not the wedding angst.  I'll check back after the wedding crap is over.

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OK the second episode clarified a lot of things.

These faked tears from both of them, culminating in the re-proposal.

It was as faked, scripted and staged as the first one.  Obviously for logistics reasons, the film crew had to be set up and get license to film on that quaint street.

Ryan was suppressing his feelings?  That's why she didn't think they connected?  Well then how did they get engaged in the first place?

Then you saw her eyes open wide at all the bling.  She is a good actress.

Looks like the drama in the next episode will be about mundane things, like their million dollar wedding not going perfect.

They should have shown real things, like him making her sign a prenup or something along those lines.

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I just have a feeling this marriage won't last. Emilia has to resign herself to the fact that she's marrying a man with a very high powered job and his stress level is through the roof, and real estate can be a 24/7 job.  Men (or women) like that don't always have the time to give. Yes, he could be a little more thoughtful, but if Emilia is looking for him to change drastically, it's not going to happen. He's an over achiever and always will be. 

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On 9/26/2016 at 5:44 AM, dleighg said:

Well is there any indication that she asked for those things?

Actually, she did...in a previous season they showed Ryan & Emilia furniture shopping after the purchase of the apartment. She picked out a super expensive high end gallery with megabuck furniture...Ryan seemed a bit dazed by it all...I guess continuity wasn't in the Bravo "script" for Emilia's lines.  I ,too, went from liking her to thinking "spoiled brat on steroids".  Ryan has a career in NY that he built from the bottom up...she has a job.  There's a big difference. And, a vacation home in Greece would be the perfect solution ( or even, without buying property there - which can be a nightmare in taxes for a US citizen - they can just spend a few weeks at a time & rent ). 

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I'm gonna go back and read all the posts but I have to get this off my chest first.    Emilia is a whiny, high maintenance, mountain out of molehills pain in the ass.   Your fiance's fine with spending $1M on a one-day party and this is the hardest most stressful thing you can invent complaints about in your whole lifetime? 

1.  don't have kids

2.  move back to Greece.   Alone.

Ryan did answer a question for me about where all the good, cute normal dudes are though.   Voluntarily being held hostage by these problem ass heffas.   Her nighttime game must be something serious.

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How the hell can Ryan expect to go to Greece for a few weeks a year? Even with his team of 40+, he'd still be on the phone constantly to manage his projects and them. What else is there for him to do in Corfu but work, anyway.

I thought Ryan's mom was pretty blatantly taking her son's side during her conversation with Emilia. Her advice consisted of "you knew he was a snake before you took him in. Chin up and make the best of it, sucker!"

What the hell was going on with that counselor's office? Was filming not allowed in his real workplace, or was he just some Bravo plant who doesn't have one? Because a cheap foam couch with tie-on cover and a single office chair were not fooling anyone. Also, I don't think Ryan's problem is that he can't open up and communicate with Emilia; it's that he doesn't prioritize her needs above the needs of his clients. Can you imagine how much more resentful she'll feel after they have a kid?

I hope no representatives from the Greek Orthodox church were watching to hear Ryan basically say that he's not religious so one faith or the other, no difference, lah dee dah. Why not convert. Similarly, no one from the Ambassador Hotel, who paid their promotional fee only to have Ryan and Emilia mock their establishment  -- it's tacky and dirty.

There are many excellent wedding planners in NYC, Ryan and Emilia. No doubt this was a tie-in with Bravo in some way, but I can't with that guy. I don't even remember where I've seen him before, but dealing with his personal idiosyncrasies only adds more stress. Are we supposed to believe that Emilia is planning to borrow diamonds to take to Greece? That scene had some very pretty baubles, but was just more poorly integrated product placement. But I guess mazel tov to them if it helps defray a bit of the ridiculous costs.

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5 minutes ago, lordonia said:

How the hell can Ryan expect to go to Greece for a few weeks a year? Even with his team of 40+, he'd still be on the phone constantly to manage his projects and them. What else is there for him to do in Corfu but work, anyway.

I thought Ryan's mom was pretty blatantly taking her son's side during her conversation with Emilia. Her advice consisted of "you knew he was a snake before you took him in. Chin up and make the best of it, sucker!"

What the hell was going on with that counselor's office? Was filming not allowed in his real workplace, or was he just some Bravo plant who doesn't have one? Because a cheap foam couch with tie-on cover and a single office chair were not fooling anyone. Also, I don't think Ryan's problem is that he can't open up and communicate with Emilia; it's that he doesn't prioritize her needs above the needs of his clients. Can you imagine how much more resentful she'll feel after they have a kid?

I hope no representatives from the Greek Orthodox church were watching to hear Ryan basically say that he's not religious so one faith or the other, no difference, lah dee dah. Why not convert. Similarly, no one from the Ambassador Hotel, who paid their promotional fee only to have Ryan and Emilia mock their establishment  -- it's tacky and dirty.

There are many excellent wedding planners in NYC, Ryan and Emilia. No doubt this was a tie-in with Bravo in some way, but I can't with that guy. I don't even remember where I've seen him before, but dealing with him adds more stress. Are we supposed to believe that Emilia is planning to borrow diamonds to take to Greece? That scene had some very pretty baubles, but was just more poorly integrated product placement. But I guess mazel tov to them if it helps defray a bit of the ridiculous costs.

Normally I would wholeheartedly agree with this sentiment but, I would've told her the same thing.   He didn't begin that business upon the start of their relationship, he was a hustler when they met, which means she has always come second, so nothing changed.    While I agree that he's super busy and now that he's out of the courtship phase, has turned his primary attentions elsewhere, she's super needy.  It's not attractive.  I couldn't even tell by this episode that she had a job or any interests that didn't include tantruming out on this guy several times a day.  

The exclamation about the baptism reveal annoyed me too.    I'm not sure how any marriage makes it without compromise but how about the answer to what are we gonna do about not being able to get married in a greek orthodox church is - we do it somewhere else.    I know Ryan said it's not particularly important to him but I hate the taking for granted thing that happens when two different cultures come together.   Guess what?  I come from a family too so who says your culture gets to swallow up my culture because ya'll are louder, closer, bigger?   We're gonna do it my family's way since that's the way it's always been done.   Good luck with that Ryan.  

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3 hours ago, ZaldamoWilder said:

Emilia is a whiny, high maintenance, mountain out of molehills pain in the ass.   Your fiance's fine with spending $1M on a one-day party and this is the hardest most stressful thing you can invent complaints about in your whole lifetime? 

1.  don't have kids

2.  move back to Greece.   Alone.

Ryan did answer a question for me about where all the good, cute normal dudes are though.   Voluntarily being held hostage by these problem ass heffas.   Her nighttime game must be something serious.

Exactly, Zaldamowilder! Ryan really loves her NOW, but he is starting to see cracks. It's not going to get any better, either. He's going to grow tired of her shit. Unfortunately, they will probably have a couple of kids before that happens. I want to know, is she working or not? Since we found out she just passed the BAR, what has she been doing for 5 yrs? Isn't she 30?  I was under the impression that she was a successful NYC attorney for a while. Guess I was wrong. She's pretty, but not gorgeous, Ryan could find many more like her in the city. I wonder what has him so attracted to her. 

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I thought I had read that Emilia now wants to work more with Ryan. GAG. I have a feeling she wants to be a star of the show along with the real estate guys. Why in the world didn't they just go (the two of them or just family memebers) to Greece for a small wedding? Come back to NYC for a big party. I suppose they saw all of the publicity and "fame" they would attract with the Bravo special episodes, plus all of the money Bravo was kicking in to put towards the wedding. And you know Ryan and Emilia also got paid for the wedding shows. I like Ryan, but not so much Emilia. 

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7 minutes ago, bichonblitz said:

Exactly, Zaldamowilder! Ryan really loves her NOW, but he is starting to see cracks. It's not going to get any better, either. He's going to grow tired of her shit. Unfortunately, they will probably have a couple of kids before that happens. I want to know, is she working or not? Since we found out she just passed the BAR, what has she been doing for 5 yrs? Isn't she 30?  I was under the impression that she was a successful NYC attorney for a while. Guess I was wrong. She's pretty, but not gorgeous, Ryan could find many more like her in the city.

I didn't see their story from the beginning so I can't be properly shady about this sentence.  I can only wonder how much longer she's got based on the good emotional credits built up so far.   According to the Google, she was 29 at the time of proposal so 31 now.   She's non practicing.  Decided to take up real estate, specifically title searches, to be closer to him.  {{SethMeyersheadtilt}} really Ryan?

19 minutes ago, bichonblitz said:

 I wonder what has him so attracted to her. 

#nighttimegame   She's cute n' all but as jlo, halle, cindy crawford might attest, men have left physically striking women over less.  

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As for why they are doing this show, putting their supposed dirty laundry on display, it must be that MDLNY has been good for his business.  You would think some well-heeled clients would want no part of a reality star when it comes to business.

But maybe even billionaires get a little star-struck and choose Ryan's business over other brokers because they saw him on TV?

And maybe developers give him listings since he's regularly on TV and probably has ways to get publicity on other media for their properties.

Emilia probably doesn't work at all or is close to his business.  That didn't even look like much of an office for her.

You would think they'd have assistants in real life to fob off things like making wedding plans and so forth.  So they put on a celebrity planner, someone who did Brad Pitt's wedding.  That might be more Bravo pushing that angle.

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Boy that lunchtime argument was uncomfortable. It is never going to go well when you get into "let's just connect and have a meaningful conversation now." It doesn't work that way. He was completely put on the spot, unfairly, IMHO.

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Buy a $1M wedding.  Buy a vacation home in Greece for your fiancee to spend more time with her family.  Go to religion classes to convert to your fiancee's religion.  Buy a famous wedding planner so your fiancee doesn't have to work so hard. Go to a counselor so you can learn to ask your fiancee, "What was your biggest childhood fear?"  Get browbeaten and harangued by your fiancee on a daily basis about how you don't care enough about her. 

Ryan better have a bulletproof prenup. 

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I just watched the first episode of Ryan's Wedding and all I can say is run Ryan run.  That father of hers is going to be a problem for him.  Her whole family is going to be in the middle of everything they do as a married couple.  I see nothing but problems for both of them.

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BTW as busy as they supposedly are, you can tell both of them spend a lot of time at the gym.

What was the deal with wearing a gym tanktop at the old folks home?

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2 hours ago, scrb said:

What was the deal with wearing a gym tanktop at the old folks home?

Ryan is, I have to assume, wearing those dorky things on purpose because he thinks they're amusing? Even Emilia groaningly asked him not to.

I had a smallish wedding of 70 people so the scale is way different, but you know what? I was happy that my fiancé didn't care because that meant I could do whatever the hell I wanted. Ryan does have opinions about what he likes, but if he can't make time to look at tuxedo styles or taste test cakes, then screw him. He'd get one chance to contribute before I'd overrule and make the decisions for him.

This was 1974, but my husband also didn't give a shit about decorating the house, so no need for us to bring in a designer to arbitrate that. Millennials have such unrealistic expectations. ;)

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22 minutes ago, lordonia said:

Ryan is, I have to assume, wearing those dorky things on purpose because he thinks they're amusing? Even Emilia groaningly asked him not to.

I had a smallish wedding of 70 people so the scale is way different, but you know what? I was happy that my fiancé didn't care because that meant I could do whatever the hell I wanted. Ryan does have opinions about what he likes, but if he can't make time to look at tuxedo styles or taste test cakes, then screw him. He'd get one chance to contribute before I'd overrule and make the decisions for him.

This was 1974, but my husband also didn't give a shit about decorating the house, so no need for us to bring in a designer to arbitrate that. Millennials have such unrealistic expectations. ;)

Ahh, THOSE were the days!!!  LOL.

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It's my understanding , that before a Greek Orthodox clergyman marries a couple, when one person is a member of another faith, that individual must agree to convert & take hours of required religious instruction.  So has Ryan already converted to Greek Orthodoxy & are viewers of this multi-episode wedding extravaganza being scammed? 

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More manufactured drama with the flowers and the venue not being big enough.

Bravo probably got to use that villa for free or reduced for advertising it.  And I don't buy it for one second that that place wouldn't have air conditioning.

Also the "fight" between the brother and Luis over the entertainment for the bachelor party was so much over nothing.  If those guys had been drinking for hours as suggested by the time lapse, it's doubtful any guys would care about the dancers showing up.

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Somehow I don't think Ryan's big announcement of converting could have been a surprise. Doesn't everyone know the wedding is taking place in a church? Or were they somehow thinking it was going to be at the villa?

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They may have thought that Ryan could get married in the church because he had been baptized Catholic. Which of course, turned out to be not true, but the parents may have known that yet. So converting to Greek Orthodox would be a surprise if any of this was real. And we, of course, know it's not. 

This is coming off phonier than the majority of all Bravo shows.

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Yeah it's phony but I'm enjoying it, especially beautiful Greece and am I the only one who thinks Ryan is hilarious?

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3 hours ago, SoCal4Us said:

Yeah it's phony but I'm enjoying it, especially beautiful Greece and am I the only one who thinks Ryan is hilarious?

I, too, am enjoying seeing some beautiful sights in Greece.  And, I agree with you that Ryan is hilarious; I adore his brand of humor.  Still, given the choice between watching NY real estate porn and watching Ryan's Big Fat Greek Wedding, I would definitely choose original recipe Million Dollar  Listing NY.  I'll be glad when this wedding business is over, although I will miss Louis if this is the last we'll be seeing of him.  (*sotto voce* - I'm still secretly hoping Ryan dumps insufferably entitled Emilia at the altar, even though I know it's all scripted/edited and she can't possibly be as horrifying as she's being portrayed....can she?)

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I'm wondering when/why the decision was made to turn this into a four-part series instead of three, not that it really matters in the grand scheme of things.

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19 minutes ago, Mlle. Kitty said:

I'm wondering when/why the decision was made to turn this into a four-part series instead of three, not that it really matters in the grand scheme of things.

In the grand scheme of things, I don't get to see four shows of real estate porn because I WILL NOT watch the wedding "story".

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3 hours ago, Medicine Crow said:
3 hours ago, Mlle. Kitty said:

I'm wondering when/why the decision was made to turn this into a four-part series instead of three, not that it really matters in the grand scheme of things.

In the grand scheme of things, I don't get to see four shows of real estate porn because I WILL NOT watch the wedding "story".

 

I hear ya! ?I still get sucked in because I enjoy the realtors' personalities and antics almost as much as I love the real estate porn, and I was fascinated at Ryan's evolution from the first season, when I found him amusing but way too smarmy, through his relationship with Amelia, which seemed to be a positive influence on him and made him more vulnerable and compassionate.  I am troubled by their arguments because name-calling ("you idiot!") is not productive, and I really root for everyone's happiness. I hope they end up with a healthy, lasting marriage.  But I totally understand that these wedding spin-offs are not everyone's cuppa. At least they sprinkled a little RE porn into the third episode.

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was anyone else surprised that Emilia wore a strapless dress at an orthodox wedding? I would have thought covered shoulders would be required, but I am no expert. 

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When your rich father, who has probably donated tons of money to that church over the years, things like the bride walking down the aisle in a strapless wedding dress can be overlooked.

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The ceremony wasn't even in a church! It was outside! It seems like the whole double booking nonsense was a false alarm. There's also no way that outside rotunda area needed three hours to "reset" from another ceremony.

Emilia was right; their rented house looked like it had plenty of room for the reception guests. At least Ryan made sure to fulfill his promotional obligations by thanking Ken on camera and saying how great he was.

The house that was somehow sold twice was lovely, especially the outdoor areas and view. Who knows if any of it was real, but I don't blame Ryan for being bummed after fake losing it.

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So they didn't get married in the church, Emilia didn't get her vacation house, and Ryan converted to the Greek Orthodox religion in like what, a couple of days? Ok, then. As soon as the honeymoon is over (I know, I know, it already is, but we're talking TV time here) and they are back in NY, Ryan is going right back to his workaholic ways and Emilia will be bitching that he doesn't give her enough of his time.  

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Wait until Emilia announces her pregnancy...........she's going to demand they return to Greece, because it's what her parents want, tells Ryan to manage his real estate empire from Greece, so he can be around to support her during this pregnancy...... then  I'm sure future Bravo episodes will document everything from Emilia's morning sickness, her cravings, her doctor appointments, the child's gender, decorating the nursery & the planning of the Greek Orthodox christening.....Ugh!  Think the producers told Frederick his services are no longer needed?  Sounds like Luis made the right decision about leaving the real estate business & MLNY!

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You can tell they were sweating like crazy in those outside scenes.  I can see people becoming irritable under those conditions but of course they're told by producers to act up.

Anyways glad it's over.

Now on the next season will they continue to fabricate drama?  Of course, that's the MDL formula.  If they made it purely about real estate, you might as well watch one of those local shows which feature real estate videos.  Then again, you often have faked conflict with the developers and brokers too all the time.

Anyways, if you want to look at the other side of high end real estate in NY, check out Class Divide on HBO.  It shows how a Chelsea neighborhood is changing, mainly due to the High Line Park and overall gentrification.  It centers on Avenues, a private school which charges $50k tuition a year.  This school is located right across the street from housing projects, where the average income is like $20k, below poverty for a family of 4.

Real estate in the area is being built up.  One building has a salt water swimming pool for each apt. while another building will have car elevators.  They're all being built around the High Line, which has quickly become one of the top NY tourist attractions.

They don't show the real estate interiors but they show how the onset of high end real estate, of which more than half are owned by foreign investors looking to park money, in many cases, kleptocrat money, in NY real estate, is forcing lower income people out of Manhattan.  

So the beautiful apartments on shows like MDLNY and other shows are made possible by money laundering and the increasing inequality in the country and around the world.

The movie interviews a lot of the kids who attend Avenues.  Most of them are shown to be thoughtful and ambivalent about their privilege, especially as they drive or walk past impoverished blocks.  In fact, one of the kids who appears in the movie committed suicide.

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