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I found Jess to be very seductive with her out of the blue and inappropriate announcement, I hope the therapist calls her on it. She isn't interested in what's his name with 8 kids, but she wants to keep him on the hook. 

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1 hour ago, Cosmic Muffin said:

I found Jess to be very seductive with her out of the blue and inappropriate announcement, I hope the therapist calls her on it. She isn't interested in what's his name with 8 kids, but she wants to keep him on the hook. 

Well, YEAH!  I was surprised the guy didn't faint when she purred that out, from all the blood rushing out of his head all at once.

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Not sure if this is really a spoiler...

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There's a report out today that Aubrey and Pauly broke up (again). Yeah, this show helped them a lot, I see.

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^^^ I've seen that around the Net, so it's no surprise at all.  I never thought there was actually anything there, that everything on the show was just for the show. 

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18 hours ago, leighdear said:

^^^ I've seen that around the Net, so it's no surprise at all.  I never thought there was actually anything there, that everything on the show was just for the show. 

Probably so, but weren't 

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they supposedly together for a year?  Or was that just rumor?

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The show ended filming around January, so any relationship coming from the show would have barely hit the 6-month mark.  

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10 hours ago, leighdear said:

The show ended filming around January, so any relationship coming from the show would have barely hit the 6-month mark.  

Ah.  Either way, I'm left doubting his sanity.  

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They made remarks in the finale that the whole deal was about two weeks long and they left the house the day before Thanksgiving.  (Because Brandi "didn't want Calum to spend the holiday alone."  GAAAAH, slapping myself on the forehead--since I can't reach hers.)

 

From the wrap up, maybe Somaya and Josh were actually getting a bit of therapy with some personalized dating tips, but they just didn't have the carwreck rubbernecking factor of Aubrey/Pauley and Brandi/Calum.

 

There's a debate right now, on another board, about whether alcohol makes you act like a different person or only lowers your inhibitions enough to act like your real self.  Either way, Calum seems to have some serious rage issues layered on top of a basic asshole personality--both of which he pretty much covers up when he's sober--but then he really enjoys getting drunk so he can drop the effort and just let all that stuff come out.  Look at how he's already snarling at Brandi and being abusive/confrontational, even when he's just in the process of ordering his cocktail.  (Which, "five shots"???)

I think that guy's scary and needs to back way up and start the counseling process several steps before "dating problems."

 

I have more to say, but I'll stop writing this manuscript now and just congratulate Willis on being around four women for an extended period of time and not knocking anyone up.

 

(P.S. When I googled to get Somaya's name right, I saw the Aubrey & Pauley on again/off again news, plus her reveal that he has a penis piercing.  LOL--who's surprised by that?)

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Thanks for the time correction, Candall!  I thought filming ended in January, just going off the media reports I saw.  At least I wasn't too far off the mark!  

I'm wondering if the ratings were good enough for E! to have ordered another season of the show, with a new crew.   I found some of it legit informative, and just entertaining enough to watch again.  Ok, mostly to snark on the "pretty" people.  ;-)

And for anybody not watching "Bachelor in Paradise 3" that started last night, you can tune in to get another opportunity to see Josh Murray in dating form.  He arrives in the episode airing next Monday.  

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22 minutes ago, leighdear said:

I found some of it legit informative, and just entertaining enough to watch again.

Pseudo-celebrity reality shows usually aren't my bag, but I was glued to this thing like those people were imported exotic animals I'd never heard of before.

The four who coupled up didn't do themselves any great service since their advice dwindled down to dealing with specific person x instead of dating tips that might have been generally helpful.

But then two of the singlettes sounded like they'd gleaned a sliver of insight and two of them were hilariously off-track.  I doubt if Willis' baseline issue is an inability to "say no."  Is he a helpless pawn, beset by wily women who refuse to have protected sex, hoping for the honor of Baby Nine?  Maybe six weeks of pre-sex dating would be a better system than scoping out the nearest bathroom for a quickie.  Oh, wait. . . was he talking about saying no to himself?  Well, then that would make sense.

 

Jessica sees herself as someone who needs to come out of her shell more.  Yikes.  She already seems like a combination of Cleopatra and the viper who bit her. 

Unless that's a 'shell' of supermodels and pseudo-celebs.  It would be really good for Jess to spend some time around regular humans.  Have a conversation instead of oblige a conversation.

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Bleh, now *I* sound mean and judgmental, too.  But they know they invite people to judge, when they agree to this stuff, right?  Or do they think the majority reaction will be envy?

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I really liked the first half of the show. I found the exercises interesting and Dr. Darcy's advice pretty actionable. Then it got completely sidetracked by the Brandi/Callum and Paulie D/Aubrey "relationships."

Did Somaya and Josh even have a session with Dr. Darcy?

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I think they all got several sessions, but their screen time just got psych-jacked by the neediest needers that ever needed, Brandi & Aubrey.   Those 2 should be in a relationship, as they seemed very co-dependent & kept telling each other what they wanted to hear.  

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When Aubrey said "we're going to talk about Pauly, because that's what Girls Night is" or something along those lines, I said to Mr. G "yes, Girls Night is usually when the most insecure girl talks incessantly about her newest love interest and everyone else suffers through it."

And then she doesn't get invited next time.

And of course she got mad when her attention was transferred to a girl who doesn't advertise it every time she hooks up with someone.

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Anyone else watching?  I couldn't look away.  What the hell is Dorothy from Rich Kids of Beverly Hills doing on this show.  I think her first instinct was to run.  She should have.

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I find Culam (sp?) to be wildly attractive.    I thought so last season as well.  As for the other guys, I got nothing.  I am sure out of the women, Mz New York will play her part to hog as much camera time as possible.  I don't know, might be a fun season, then again, maybe not.  Please watch with me because what makes all shows fun is the snark that the members here put out there.  Without you guys, tv watching would not be half the fun!

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3 hours ago, lasandi said:

I find Culam (sp?) to be wildly attractive.    I thought so last season as well.  As for the other guys, I got nothing.  I am sure out of the women, Mz New York will play her part to hog as much camera time as possible.  I don't know, might be a fun season, then again, maybe not.  Please watch with me because what makes all shows fun is the snark that the members here put out there.  Without you guys, tv watching would not be half the fun!

I will watch with you. So far this show doesn't have Brandi, but Tiffany is going to take that spot. Seems like everyone already have paired up---that didn't happen until much later last season. They are a wickedly attractive bunch of people.

I first thought Karina was Veronica from the Challenge. I actually think this show is beneath Karina's level of celebrity. I guess since Max is happily married with the kid, she's the one that couldn't make it work with him. Maybe she is trying to rebrand herself. 

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This is driving me crazy.  Does anyone know if Ms New York was on a show called Family Therapy (or something like that) with Ms Jenn as the counselor.  If so, is Ms NY the one with the crazy scary mom?

 

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I actually think this show is beneath Karina's level of celebrity. I guess since Max is happily married with the kid, she's the one that couldn't make it work with him. Maybe she is trying to rebrand herself. 

I'm surprised too.  It seems like she has been off and on DWTS and also had partners where she left early the last few seasons.  Maybe this is also for a paycheck besides getting "advice". 

Being paired up this soon probably goes against any advice/therapy they will be getting.  Probably repeating bad habits.

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2 hours ago, Palomar said:

This is driving me crazy.  Does anyone know if Ms New York was on a show called Family Therapy (or something like that) with Ms Jenn as the counselor.  If so, is Ms NY the one with the crazy scary mom?

Yes and yes.  To further the  question...I had missed it from mid season to the end, right before she was about to announce whether she was pregnant or not..She didnt say anything in this ep that she had a tator tot, so I dont know if she ever was or wasnt.  Thats question one.  Question two is, Crazy Mama kept saying if NY was pregnant that baby was hers.  What did she mean by that? She kept saying it over and over.

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She did announce that she was pregnant, but allegedly lost the baby sometime afterward. I say "allegedly" because I don't believe a thing that comes out of that woman's mouth. As for her crazy mom, nothing she said made sense, either. I think it was just a way of controlling Tiffany and making her feel overly dependent on her mom.

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14 hours ago, jumper sage said:

 

Anyone else watching?  I couldn't look away.  What the hell is Dorothy from Rich Kids of Beverly Hills doing on this show.  I think her first instinct was to run.  She should have.

 

I stumbled on this last night. i remember watching a few eps last season with "Brandi and Aubrey. I couldn't take it!

Anyway, Dorothy is not kidding when she said she's a Billionairess.  Her daddy has so much money, she never has to work a day in her life. Maybe that's her problem, not enough to keep herself busy.  She is miles above these losers. Not just because of her money, mostly because she probably has never met people like this in her entire life!  I know on the Rich Kids show there was screaming, fighting and back stabbing, but it was very rich kids screaming fighting and back stabbing! 

Karina is looking rough. Really, really rough. I didn't even recognize her at first. The one with Ronnie- her claim to fame is that she's Khloe Kardashian's assistant. Tiffany is just disgusting.  And speaking of Ronnie, Ugggh! Go back to the Jersey Shore where everybody knows your name. 

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Thanks Tammee and Catgyrl for the updates.  I do remember that she did say she pregnant and her mom saying it was hers.  Very scary stuff, especially like as was said, you just couldn't know if she was really pregnant or just wanted the drama. 

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5 hours ago, Palomar said:

This is driving me crazy.  Does anyone know if Ms New York was on a show called Family Therapy (or something like that) with Ms Jenn as the counselor.  If so, is Ms NY the one with the crazy scary mom?

 

I'm surprised too.  It seems like she has been off and on DWTS and also had partners where she left early the last few seasons.  Maybe this is also for a paycheck besides getting "advice". 

Being paired up this soon probably goes against any advice/therapy they will be getting.  Probably repeating bad habits.

Karina has been engaged at least two other times post Maks and also appeared on an episode of Say Yes To the Dress where she purchased a gown for one of her upcoming weddings (which never happened due to broken engagement.)

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10 hours ago, bichonblitz said:

Anyway, Dorothy is not kidding when she said she's a Billionairess.  Her daddy has so much money, she never has to work a day in her life. Maybe that's her problem, not enough to keep herself busy.  She is miles above these losers. Not just because of her money, mostly because she probably has never met people like this in her entire life!  I know on the Rich Kids show there was screaming, fighting and back stabbing, but it was very rich kids screaming fighting and back stabbing! 

Exactly!  Does this mean Dorothy is persona non grata on the other show?

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13 hours ago, jumper sage said:

Exactly!  Does this mean Dorothy is persona non grata on the other show?

Nope!  Rich Kids is over, it lasted four seasons and ended with her best friend's wedding.  AFAIK, they are all still friends and wouldn't care about Dorothy doing this show.  Hell, EJ (Magic Johnson's son) had his own six episode spin-off in NYC.

Dorothy was my favorite on that show so I ain't mad she showed up here!  And I'm kinda hoping they find an excuse to show her Birkin collection.

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Anyone watch the 7/2 episode?  It seems like this episode was the start of Chad redemption.  It always did seem like he was playing a role so who knows. New York is definitely not ready to find a partner....she needs to work on herself first.  Definitely lots of egos in the house.

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1 hour ago, Palomar said:

Anyone watch the 7/2 episode?  It seems like this episode was the start of Chad redemption.  It always did seem like he was playing a role so who knows. New York is definitely not ready to find a partner....she needs to work on herself first.  Definitely lots of egos in the house.

I hope it's redemption for him.  After hearing his story about his mom and how it's only been a year since she passed, and that he went on The Bachelorette only 6 months after her passing... that really struck me.  It seems really irresponsible that ABC even went through with bringing him on the show.  He had no time to create a new normal for himself without his mother in his life.  The death of his mother paired with him being put on the show, and having the villain persona played up for the audience and the viewing numbers, is just a recipe for him getting caught up on the reality hamster wheel and getting his world twisted.  Every once in a while he had this expression on his face that I swear looked the way my kids look when they feel lost.  It's a little sad.

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On ‎7‎/‎3‎/‎2017 at 0:12 PM, zoltana said:

Every once in a while he had this expression on his face that I swear looked the way my kids look when they feel lost.  It's a little sad.

I stumbled onto the first two hours last night and caught up.  I don't know any of them, except Calum from last season. 

Chad's story--about missing his imprint period for normal relationships because of attending his mother--was the only thing that sounded like it belonged in a world I might recognize.  It was sad.

Another sad part was Tiffany's first impulse that the way to introduce herself to a stranger was to shimmy her boobs at him.

And this "billionairess" Dorothy?  Um, that's a lot of plastic surgery for a 20-something.  Cheek implant reduction, stat.

WAY too much pairing off and hooking up, right off the bat!  Idiots.

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Wow, Katrina really has a temper when things aren't going her way.  I, too, thought she was more of a celebrity than many of the others on this show, but maybe her days on Dancing with the Stars are coming to an end and she can't resist the limelight.  

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I really like the basic premise of this show:  how can famous people overcome the problem of meeting someone when the whole dating pool already has preconceived impressions?  With a dating coach and a therapist/counselor and a support group of others who have the same problem, seems like these people could actually benefit, if they wanted to, and it would be interesting to watch.  (Do they want to?  Or is that question stupid and it's just another reality show paycheck and "brand" opportunity?)

Anyway, the blindfolded speed dating was perfect.  They couldn't measure by looks and they couldn't be flattered by compliments about their own looks.  Gee, a chance to interact with someone based on something besides looks and celebrity reputation.  They even found someone for Karina with some knowledge about her skillset--there's a good start.  But most of them just floundered around trying to measure degree of attractiveness.

 

Tiffany's so tragically insecure.  I wish she could let go of her "I'm fixated on big dicks" schtick.  If that's all she requires, that's all she's ever going to get.

 

P.S>all the vocal fry is killing me.

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"New York" has always been embarrassing, but after seeing the way her mom is on the Family therapy show, I´m feeling especially embarrassed for her. All that bravado and "hbic" is just sad. She seems to alternate between the prudish &, foul-mouth type her mother raised and this hyper-sexualized man-eater she´s portraying on this show. Her mom is so scary, and so possessed by the devil, that it´s not even funny. The only chance NY has is to severe all contact with that person, change her name, find a man who doesn´t expect much and turn into a nice quiet wife.

I love watching these kinds of shows with silly z-list celebs. These days they are so few and far between.

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All that fuss Karina was making during her couples yoga date had me laughing.  She's been in more awkward positions with her dance partners so I don't know why she was having a problem with Chad's crotch in her face.

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Karina is whinier than I thought she'd be…but I can say that about a lot of the "celebrities" doing these reality shows.

Dorothy & David had me rolling during their "date".  As did Karina's pre-DD-date, "So you're saying there's a chance…"  *dead*

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Wow, so the Jersey Shore guy was showing the most sense of anyone on this show.  "Uh, maybe we should do the exercises and they could actually teach us something about dating?"  Oh, whew, but then it was only a lapse of momentary sanity.

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I've never gotten this show - it's always clear to me why they have so much "trouble" with relationships-- they think that even though they are barely celebrities (z list at best) they should be dating other z listers.  The women think they are so much above  any regular people and are very obvious about it.

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I understand why the other z list people would do a show like this , but I think karina should have turned it down . She's a D list celeb but this show makes it seem like she doesn't value herself as that and is giving in to Z list for a paycheck 

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19 hours ago, Jaclyn88 said:

I understand why the other z list people would do a show like this , but I think karina should have turned it down . She's a D list celeb but this show makes it seem like she doesn't value herself as that and is giving in to Z list for a paycheck 

Yeah, thought it was strange when the women had the PussyCat Dolls chick showing them how to dance and appear sexy.  I somehow don't think a pro like Karina would need these lessons but to her credit she went along. I'm not sure the other "celebs" there have a clue about what their fellow participants claim to fame is.

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Finale.  Six months later.  No surprises, no changes, except Tiffany had a little work done.

 

In case the other two or three viewers don't use closed-captioning:

When Malika said she learned that Ronnie was "verbally aggressive," her next sentence was edited out of the audio.   She added that he was also physically aggressive.  Yeow.  "Guess I should've watched Jersey Shore" was pretty funny, though.

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These people are like gorgeous.  I never knew of Callum but he is beautiful.  Malika is too but Dorothy is my favorite.  I never knew about her before, but I like her confidence and not falling for any man that says hello to her.  

I've always liked Chad.  Karina was more whiney than I expected. Knew of all her engagements.  But when she started with that courting shit, I was over her.

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On 8/14/2017 at 8:14 PM, candall said:

Finale.  Six months later.  No surprises, no changes, except Tiffany had a little work done.

 

In case the other two or three viewers don't use closed-captioning:

When Malika said she learned that Ronnie was "verbally aggressive," her next sentence was edited out of the audio.   She added that he was also physically aggressive.  Yeow.  "Guess I should've watched Jersey Shore" was pretty funny, though.

Lol so true. I wasn't surprised either. I would've liked to see David though and find out about the Australian girl but most likely they're not together.

As for Tiffany, she did look different to me but I didn't notice what it was...do you know what she had done?

 

Thank you for sharing what you found out in regards to Malika. That's so crazy about Ronnie. Not surprised it didn't last though. and yeah when she said that about Jersey Shore I laughed as well lol

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I just finished reading Calum's book and it is the key to unlocking everything that explains his behavior and the choices he has made. What I find so crazy, in addition to Ronnie (!!!!!)  suggesting that they actually participate in the exercises, is that there is hope for Calum - he just needs to want it. I know Dr. Darcy loves & supports him, but I would love to see Calum love himself. His issues run deep and I know he probably did the show for money/exposure to American viewing audiences, but someone needs to strap a rucksack on him and send him to the Himalayas to sort his life out! 

I can relate to Calum in many ways - right down to a dad from Belfast & him being emotionally unavailable. I feel like a female version of him, minus the tattoos and heavy drinking. My own dad doesn't drink, never has, and I know this sounds odd, but I kind of wish he did have a tangible issue/problem to maybe help explain the inability to be a father. While Calum is an arse on the show, download his book of you'd love to see a sober Calum explain his demons. 

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