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If I remember correctly, that "cow" was a first-calf-heifer that had a long labour & couldn't get up, at first because she was exhausted from the birthing process, but then she went numb (not paralyzed) from laying down so long.

Having lived on a ranch, you DO get attached to certain cows for one reason or the other.  It's clear to me that they do kill & butcher a cow for the freezer, but I think they ship their calves (6 to 10 mos.) to market by truck.  JMHO.

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So they had the finale tonight.  A couple of things..

-so Shane and his wife go to see the doctor and ask how long does she have if she gets sick...the doc says hours to days.  They get all concerned that they are so in the bush that they might not be able to get to a hospital in time.  Really?!? I think the whole moving to the homestead was BS.

-Just can't imagine Atz Lee wanting to move to this cabin...where is his family going to stay?  He has at least two kids...that cabin is too small.

-Regarding the cattle drive....really nobody can help Otto and Charlotte?  Where was everyone?

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I'm starting to think that the reason Atz Lee wants to build that cabin in the middle of nowhere to get away from Jane's complaining.  She bitches, moans and complains all the time about everything.  She drives me crazy watching it on TV so I couldn't imagine living with the complaints in real life.  The way she talks bugs me too, she talks so fast. 

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Otto's a great guy - until he loses his temper, usually with Charlotte or another woman.  If he'd pulled that horseshit on me, I'd have knocked him off his high horse and left him to finish the cattle drive on his own, or told him to go find a man who'd take his abuse.  Oh wait, Otto'd never pull that shit on a man.

Shane probably never intended to move to that cabin, and just needed a storyline for the TV money.

Atz Lee is a spoiled special snowflake.  I don't know how Jane puts up with him.

Eivan & Eve continue to impress, and their kids are adorable.

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I think the 'story line' about Atz Lee building his cabin was just added to the season for drama.  It will be another hunting cabin, not a real home for him.

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I wonder if they could use the landing ship to go to the head of the bay...pick up the cows and then drop them off by the beach near the farm.

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Since when did Atz Lee have a teenage son?

The narrator said his name is Etienne(sp). I think that is French for Steven. 

Guess Atz Lee sowed some wild oats as a teen.

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4 hours ago, iwasish said:

Since when did Atz Lee have a teenage son?

The narrator said his name is Etienne(sp). I think that is French for Steven. 

Guess Atz Lee sowed some wild oats as a teen.

He is Atz Lee and Jane's son. They have a couple of kids who would be teenagers now. They've kept their kids off the show. 

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Oh, come on. Come. On!

I quit this show last season because so much of the content was obviously fake with the stated life-threatening danger at every turn absurdly exaggerated .  But I came back out of curiosity this week to see if anything had changed.

What an idiot I am. Not only hasn't the show toned down the hyperbole, they've doubled down on it.

For those not familiar with snow, the "record-breaking" snow fall shown in this season's first episode was maybe six inches, seven inches tops.  I can remove that with one pass of my home snow blower.  It would be zero challenge for the industrial size snow blower that Atz Lee was wielding.

Most laughable?  Eve vs. the excavator to clear a 10 foot path from the plowed driveway to the greenhouse. First she lies that the snow is "hip deep."  Again, it's about mid-shin height except for where it was plowed up.  The best way to clear this, even through the plowed-up bank, is with an old-fashioned snow shovel, a little elbow grease and about 10 minutes.  Eve's a terrible actor so the fakery of her scenes are even more transparent.

Next episode: it rains one day and the Kilcher family bands together to ford a 2-inch deep puddle. 

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53 minutes ago, RemoteControlFreak said:

Next episode: it rains one day and the Kilcher family band together to ford a 2-inch deep puddle. 

Hmmm, time to chop down trees and build a bridge😉

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Oh, I’m so glad to find somebody’s home, here. I tuned in tonight because I love snow & Alaska and it was so disappointing. It could’ve been a half-hour episode and I mean 21 minutes. 

How many times did we see the graphic of the Tree-trunk/snowshoe-Style “Bridge” for Otto to drive the old tractor over? Or the graphic explaining Shane’s proposed cabin?

Worth watching - ONCE - Otto getting the rig running and Atz admiring him;

ONCE: Atzlee and “the girls” (hate that like I hate Jane’s false lashes) felling the trees and the explanatory graphic thereto;

ONCE: progress on Chez Shane (with graphic);

ONCE: Eve gets certified on yet another piece of heavy equipment. Go, gurl...er, woman. 

And next week Jewel is back to handle a chain saw? Why does that seem to me to be a desperation move, calling in the family celebrity?

I’ve loved watching this show but many more epis like this one and I don’t think even ff’ing will make me stay. 

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They lost me with the car Eivan put together out of "scraps" for August. And the whole set up for painting it. If they have all that stuff to paint and repair.. why does most of their equipment look like shit?

Then the BOAT he makes for he and his family to cruise around in? I was thinking it would be some makeshift cobbled together contraption ... but all semblance of a hard scrabble life is gone with that.

All fakery.

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On 10/9/2017 at 1:33 PM, iwasish said:

All fakery.

Yeah..... I tend not to be an all-in kinda guy, but the more I see of this — and read comments like yours, @iwasish — the more I think the family and producers are dazzling us with bs, way more than just showing some oddball, talented, successful rural folks. I say again: a half-hour Show would be wonderfully interesting and far  Less contrived, but bless me if the advertisers seem to be lining up to buy the spots in an hour-long program, so I guess they’re doing something right. 

Just not in my viewer’s eyes. 

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I really tried to "get into" this season, but Jane in HD with the false eyelashes digging out of the blizzard was the last straw.  Deleted all episodes & cancelled future recordings.  I'm out!!!

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On 10/28/2017 at 10:56 PM, Medicine Crow said:

I really tried to "get into" this season, but Jane in HD with the false eyelashes digging out of the blizzard was the last straw.  Deleted all episodes & cancelled future recordings.  I'm out!!!

I’ve got 2 eps on my DVR list that I can’t bring myself to watch. Think I’ll be following your lead soon.

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Okay, I "broke down" & watched the buffalo escape!  Who was the genius that thought barbed wire would hold a herd of buffalo?  That was hilarious!!!

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On 11/7/2017 at 0:41 PM, Medicine Crow said:

Okay, I "broke down" & watched the buffalo escape!  Who was the genius that thought barbed wire would hold a herd of buffalo?  That was hilarious!!!

There was supposed to be a couple hundred buffalo, it didn’t look like anywhere near that number. Nor would that many fit on that boat. 

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Clearing the cobwebs from this forum....crickets chirping.....

They're baaack....

The show returns Oct 7th...not that anyone cares.......

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I enjoy the show, but there's not  much to snark about.  These appear to be real people - a family - working hard and smart, with little drama.  The antithesis of "Alaskan Bush People" . . . for whom the term "snark-worthy" was created.

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1 hour ago, AZChristian said:

I enjoy the show, but there's not  much to snark about.  These appear to be real people - a family - working hard and smart, with little drama.  The antithesis of "Alaskan Bush People" . . . for whom the term "snark-worthy" was created.

Yup.  I'd love to snark on those Bush People, but I cannot bring myself to even hate-watch that dreck.  :-)

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1 minute ago, walnutqueen said:

Yup.  I'd love to snark on those Bush People, but I cannot bring myself to even hate-watch that dreck.  :-)

I'm an active snarker there . . . but I just comment on what others have written on a FB page I belong to, or on this forum.  Not watching that mess.

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I dont mind this show.......but I, like others, like to watch train wrecks. Otto is supposedly a very learned man, however, he acts as if he has a 5th grade education. The only person I cannot stand is Jane. She is a self centered, always complaining, acting like an idiot, bit(you know the rest). I did laugh until I peed when she earned her scope ring. I just assume your choices for a wife are limited where they live.

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I used to love this show when it was an authentic show about their daily lives.  The last season was so damn fake that I couldn't watch it.  Their lives are really interesting so I don't understand the fake, scripted crap. 

@Handymanmarty, I agree completely about Jane, all she does is bitch, whine and complain.  She seems like a total bitch to me. 

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14 hours ago, Maharincess said:

I used to love this show when it was an authentic show about their daily lives.  The last season was so damn fake that I couldn't watch it.  Their lives are really interesting so I don't understand the fake, scripted crap. 

100% agree... I stopped watching a couple seasons back when - oh - Otto talked about bartering a steer to pay for his hernia surgery  (thought his net worth was like... oh 3 or 4 million).... or maybe I stopped watching when they were taking a helicopter ride to hunt for deer because they were on the edge of starvation... nah, I think it was the often repeated "have to hunt/fish to fill the empty freezer", while google maps shows a Safeway a few miles from the homestead. 

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Go fuck yourself, Atz (and your idiot progeny AtzLee, too).  No wonder Jane is bitchy, being married to that piece of work.  

Fucking idiots, the lot of them.

Show me the difference between the Kilchers and those Alaskan Bush People ...

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1 hour ago, walnutqueen said:

Show me the difference between the Kilchers and those Alaskan Bush People ...

To me, just my opinion, the difference is that the Kilcher grew up living the homesteaders life - so they were actually successful before the TV show. Problem is, the production company opted to ignore the actual hard work and ingenuity it takes to live the life and play up fake drama story lines. I wouldn't even mind the fishing and hunting stories if we didn't have to hear about how everybody will starve if the hunt fails. There were times when I enjoyed the show - mainly times when they used ingenuity to make something. The Kilchers actually made stuff that was useful (even though sometimes their made for TV creations would have been cheaper and easier to obtain at a store).

Yes, ABP were often making something - but their creations were almost always destined for the junk heap. Heck, sometimes we saw them destroy perfectly good items to make some nonsensical BS something or other. Then there were times when it was obvious that they could make/buy a simple item item to make their lives easier, but didn't bother. Two quick examples that woild have made their shipping/hauling sideline easier - a collapsible cart to wheel their deliveries around villages, or a pulley/come-along so that it didn't take a half dozen people to load/unload items.

Another example of the difference. We saw a portable saw mill on both programs. On ABP they used a chainsaw-mill (commonly called an Alaskan Sawmill) used - but for slabs, not for dimensional lumber. Later, we saw A portable mill being used on Last Frontier putting out usable lumber a band sawmill. Oops, later on ABP they built a homemade bandsaw mill that quickly failed (or was shut down as soon as the insurance company saw it).

Anyway, as I said in an earlier, the good times on Frontier are few and far between.  I recorded three "new" episodes over the past weekend, but fear what is new will prove to be a couple reruns with pop up comments or "never before seen" clips that were edited out the first time around. I may watch (with my finger hovering over the FF button) or may delete them without viewing.

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I just meant that the Kilchers are every bit as fakety fake fake as those Alaskan Bush People (I couldn't even get through ONE episode of those grotesques!).  They pretend to live that life because it pays their bills.  That's how they made their living even before TeeVee - charging tourists  to see the old timey ways ... and they're still doing that.

Before this show even started, I read an article from some "Outside" magazine (I may have the name wrong), where the reporter met Atz Lee walking up to the "homestead"  eating Taco Bell.

 

3 minutes ago, Medicine Crow said:

Is there a thread for Mountain Men?  I'm sure there was!!

Yes :  http://forums.previously.tv/forum/2549-mountain-men/

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Thanks @walnutqueen ... much appreciated!!

I'm signed on to all three topics but there hasn't been much to talk about, I guess.  The season in Canada starts later than the U.S., so ...

I will say I'm liking the new guy with the hunting dogs & I hope Eustace isn't gone for good.  I'm on Episode 7 of the new season.

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Joining the discussion! Hi everyone 

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