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Salem International: Casting Notes: Arrivals & Departures

1 hour ago, betweenthelines said:

TV Insider is reporting that they're simply resting the character of Lucas for now. Bryan's tweet makes it seem different though, he sounds pissed. That's easily done right now since Lucas/Bryan is reoccurring, and they control how often he appears; so if they have to write him out then he's most likely being killed off, for now. Ugh.

What bothers me about this, is that Rafe is still here. He is a useless, worthless, waste of space. The show has thrown Carrie, Sami, Kate, Hope and Jordan to make this guy happen. Nevertheless, he remains in the show. Can somebody please explain it to me, like I am Brady..

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While I'd rather always have Peter Reckell's version, if he can't/won't return, can we get a good recast of Bo (leave out pervy RKK, please) and bring him back, while we're at it with the "undead serum" bit?

I think he is needed right now. One, for Ciara and two, to help ditch Rafe/Hope. Surely, there must be SOMEONE else that is a good actor who will have chemistry with Kristian Alfonso who can do the role justice?

Again, if it makes Rafe irrelevant, so much the better!

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Bo is done. No recasts please. They should have "say it with me* kept Aiden and not trashed him. Rafe needs to go.

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It's weird, there's so much dead weight on the show now, with characters we are currently being saddled with, that also have no long term pairings. Strong pairings are the only way you can survive on a soap opera. First off, Brady needs to go. EM has never had any chemistry with any of his ladies and at this point any relationship he's in is a joke. He can easily go reoccurring. Rafe is another, none of his pairings have taken off and he's made Hope a shadow of her past self and turned her own fans again her. KDP is another imo, she's not Eve and really has no story outside of Brady and just being there. Hope/KA can go too, she's nothing without Bo and PR is not coming back, nor would fans accept a recast. Look what happened the last time. Jennifer should also be written off with Jack, give them their HEA finally. It's only a matter of time until they fire MA again, and apparently it's rumoured he's only a short term stint, so its a perfect time. 

Also, the characters of Eli and Lani need to go. They have no real or deep history on the canvas, they are simply retconned in. No chemistry with the characters in their age group and both are SO dull. I don't care about them at all. 

We need a major shake-up but the current losses are just pathetic since they have very little impact on the canvas with all these energy suckers still around. 

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46 minutes ago, betweenthelines said:

It's weird, there's so much dead weight on the show now, with characters we are currently being saddled with, that also have no long term pairings. Strong pairings are the only way you can survive on a soap opera. First off, Brady needs to go. EM has never had any chemistry with any of his ladies and at this point any relationship he's in is a joke. He can easily go reoccurring. Rafe is another, none of his pairings have taken off and he's made Hope a shadow of her past self and turned her own fans again her. KDP is another imo, she's not Eve and really has no story outside of Brady and just being there. Hope/KA can go too, she's nothing without Bo and PR is not coming back, nor would fans accept a recast. Look what happened the last time. Jennifer should also be written off with Jack, give them their HEA finally. It's only a matter of time until they fire MA again, and apparently it's rumoured he's only a short term stint, so its a perfect time. 

Also, the characters of Eli and Lani need to go. They have no real or deep history on the canvas, they are simply retconned in. No chemistry with the characters in their age group and both are SO dull. I don't care about them at all. 

We need a major shake-up but the current losses are just pathetic since they have very little impact on the canvas with all these energy suckers still around. 

 

I agree with your post, except for Eli.  He should have a story that is about him, as a character. David needs to come back and reconnect with him. I would also like to know his stepfather. Perhaps, he comes back wanting another shot with Valerie. Valerie should not be stuck with Abe. Abe has always been strangely asexual, to me. I never saw any sparks with Lexie. Lexie had chemistry with everybody, but, Abe. Lexie even had inappropriate chemistry with EJ..lol I wish that the show had done more with the Lexie/Sami rivalry...

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EM doesn't know how to carry a story that doesn't include women fighting over him. Going back to Passions the women fighting over him were usually better acting wise then him too. There have been a few exceptions like JL's Theresa. It seems like his version of Brady on Days has either been drunk, high or stuck in a love triangle and has been isolated to the Kiriakis side of the family for too long. I wouldn't mind if the character was rested for a bit or left for awhile. 

It was stupid to cast KDP as Eve. I'm drawing a blank on who else she could have played besides a new character because I'm thinking too hard about it. 

I hate that Galen was ever brought onto the show in the first place. He has that smirk on his face all the time that looks prime for punching 24/7. He was one of many Passions hair model actors that sucked at acting and doesn't seem to have done anything to try to improve. Those months Rafe was in a coma a few years ago were so enjoyable that I still think about them.

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35 minutes ago, Apprentice79 said:

Hope/KA can go too, she's nothing without Bo and PR is not coming back, nor would fans accept a recast.

Except a recast was already accepted once. I think, if a real actor had the role of Bo, a recast could be accepted again.

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KDP is the only Eve I've known so I can't compare but she is a very good actress. Brady is written badly and EM isn't a strong actor but at least he is better than GG who really needs to go.

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1 hour ago, betweenthelines said:

Also, the characters of Eli and Lani need to go. They have no real or deep history on the canvas, they are simply retconned in. No chemistry with the characters in their age group and both are SO dull. I don't care about them at all. 

Most characters are new at some point and both have at least one parent with strong history regarding the show. It also doesn't help that the show is obvious about wanting to put the two young Black folks together while also not writing for them and not caring they lack chemistry cause their skintones are similar. They work better with other romantic partners, for sure. What they also offer is some diversity in a genre determined to still not really write for Black folks. So I disagree with jettisoning more Black people from daytime but obviously mileage varies.

I think the only genuine whale sized dead-weight in Salem remains Rafe because as much as the show writes for him and centers stories around him, he still can't carry anything more than a smugly flat disposition and just about ruins every woman he is romantically paired with. Stefan/Chad/Abby and Brady would be next in line for me because they also get writing catered to them and still can't bring much to the show. I guess for me, I see deadweight as getting writing and still not bringing much of anything interesting or intriguing to the screen. If you're barely written for and/or not getting a lot of screentime *waves to Lucas and a few other characters* it's hard for me to count that as dead-weight cause it's not where you're getting material & failing it cause the show basically sees you as little more than a set decoration plant. 

I won't miss BD, though, largely cause Lucas has been filler for a decade. Nothing against the actor but Lucas hasn't been viable to the show in a long while. He's Will's father and Will is one of the younger characters who is the future of the show, but Days seems to care more about Will's romantic relationships and his relationships with his mother & grandmothers more than his relationship with his father. 

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I still remember those first scenes of Lucas and Sami at that concert, all those (25?) years ago.  So even though death is is rarely final in Salem, I do hope they aren't killing Lucas off. 

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24 minutes ago, Chick2Chic said:

I won't miss BD, though, largely cause Lucas has been filler for a decade. Nothing against the actor but Lucas hasn't been viable to the show in a long while. He's Will's father and Will is one of the younger characters who is the future of the show, but Days seems to care more about Will's romantic relationships and his relationships with his mother & grandmothers more than his relationship with his father. 

I think that the show has written, Lucas, as an appendage to both Kate and Sami. He is not allowed to be his own man and drive stories. Plus, I feel that Lucas is not a traditional soap man and the incompetent writers do not know how to write for him.  Lucas is a grey character. He is not like Rafe who is supposed to be a good guy, we the audience know that he is a smug asshole, but, I digress. He is not like EJ who was a villain, when he first came on the show.  Lucas has a long history on the show and it is a shame that the writers could not give him a good story.  The same thing has happened to Jack. He is a complex character who is beloved. Yet, he is also an appendage to Jennifer. Frankly, I felt that Jack made me pay attention to Jennifer, back in the day..

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2 minutes ago, Apprentice79 said:

Plus, I feel that Lucas is not a traditional soap man and the incompetent writers do not know how to write for him. 

Wasn't the rumor back in the day that Corday didn't see Lucas as a leading man and that was part of why he started to disappearing from the canvas or always being the cuckold in his romances?

Also, I think Lucas stopped being a grey character a long time ago. Back in his 90s scheming days when he was trying to get Carrie to himself or going against Sami for custody of Will, there were definitely grey elements to him but it's been years since Lucas was grey, IMO. They made Lucas  a good guy for lack of doing anything else with him. He was no longer a schemer nor was he as smug as Rafe although he did have a terrible habit of shrieking in anger and yelling in Sami's face these last several years but I don't think Days has seen Lucas as much of anything for a while, That's the problem and IMO a large part of why BD wasn't getting much story this past decade. I still think BD owns some of that too for not advocating more loudly for a long time for a romantic partner for Lucas who wasn't Sami, especially when it was obvious that the show had moved on from Sami & Lucas being together.

How long is Mansi back as "Abi*?" I hope not long. I'll have to avoid her return to Days as I do her Lifetime movies. I know some prefer her Abi* over Miller's Abby but I am not one of them.

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7 minutes ago, Chick2Chic said:

Wasn't the rumor back in the day that Corday didn't see Lucas as a leading man and that was part of why he started to disappearing from the canvas or always being the cuckold in his romances?

Also, I think Lucas stopped being a grey character a long time ago. Back in his 90s scheming days when he was trying to get Carrie to himself or going against Sami for custody of Will, there were definitely grey elements to him but it's been years since Lucas was grey, IMO. They made Lucas  a good guy for lack of doing anything else with him. He was no longer a schemer nor was he as smug as Rafe although he did have a terrible habit of shrieking in anger and yelling in Sami's face these last several years but I don't think Days has seen Lucas as much of anything for a while, That's the problem and IMO a large part of why BD wasn't getting much story this past decade. I still think BD owns some of that too for not advocating more loudly for a long time for a romantic partner for Lucas who wasn't Sami, especially when it was obvious that the show had moved on from Sami & Lucas being together.

How long is Mansi back as "Abi*?" I hope not long. I'll have to avoid her return to Days as I do her Lifetime movies. I know some prefer her Abi* over Miller's Abby but I am not one of them.

Bryan did  speak up and he was very outspoken for Lucas getting more story and presence. Plus, he was very threatened by James who played EJ.  He said some not so nice things about him. 

They did strip him of his greyness, since they did not know how to write for Lucas. Just like they made Jack into a buffoon, a comic relief character and he was much more than that.

Bryan did advocate for a new love interest. He went as far as suggesting a romance between Lucas and Gabi and the fans told him NO, that would be inappropriate on so many levels. He claimed that he was just joking, but, I think he meant it...

Bryan has never had any illusions of making it big in Hollywood. He loves the show and this is the type of employee that NBC should have kept, in my opinion.

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3 minutes ago, Apprentice79 said:

Bryan did  speak up and he was very outspoken for Lucas getting more story and presence. Plus, he was very threatened by James who played EJ.  He said some not so nice things about him. 

I agree that in the last few years BD has been more outspoken on moving Lucas beyond Sami & getting a new love interest but for a long time he didn't or when he did speak up, was advocating for the return of a relationship TPTB weren't interested in writing for anymore. I think the damage was done, plus Days plans out who they're going to pair when folks are hired nowadays and I think BD was already out of the running for Lucas getting a genuine love interest and was relegated to play the foil for other couples the show is interested in writing. I had thought Days was heading towards pairing Chloe & Lucas again, which was terrible the first time around IMO and more about Daniel & Chloe anyhow, but I guess she's now going to paired with whoever KL is playing. 

If BD felt threatened by JS's arrival on to the show outside of it being confirmation that TPTB didn't see Lucas as a leading man then that's on TPTB for moving on with other actors they consider leading men (JS, GG, even EM as a hunkier Brady than KL, since they're all in the same age group) that left BD feeling insecure.  Like I think it sucks for BD that Lucas got relegated years ago to the warm up bench but I'm not seeing poor victim here either since BD likely had opportunities to move beyond Days for acting gigs when he's not been on contract. I mean, Days has mostly wasted GV as Eric but he's out there getting side acting gigs. Obviously mileage varies. 

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11 minutes ago, Chick2Chic said:

I agree that in the last few years BD has been more outspoken on moving Lucas beyond Sami & getting a new love interest but for a long time he didn't or when he did speak up, was advocating for the return of a relationship TPTB weren't interested in writing for anymore. I think the damage was done, plus Days plans out who they're going to pair when folks are hired nowadays and I think BD was already out of the running for Lucas getting a genuine love interest and was relegated to play the foil for other couples the show is interested in writing. I had thought Days was heading towards pairing Chloe & Lucas again, which was terrible the first time around IMO and more about Daniel & Chloe anyhow, but I guess she's now going to paired with whoever KL is playing. 

If BD felt threatened by JS's arrival on to the show outside of it being confirmation that TPTB didn't see Lucas as a leading man then that's on TPTB for moving on with other actors they consider leading men (JS, GG, even EM as a hunkier Brady than KL, since they're all in the same age group) that left BD feeling insecure.  Like I think it sucks for BD that Lucas got relegated years ago to the warm up bench but I'm not seeing poor victim here either since BD likely had opportunities to move beyond Days for acting gigs when he's not been on contract. I mean, Days has mostly wasted GV as Eric but he's out there getting side acting gigs. Obviously mileage varies. 

Lucas could have been more than he was. Like you said, the show was never interested, in making him, a lead man. He has it, in my opinion.. The show could have brought in Allie as a foil to Ciara.  

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So we're losing SN, CS now Bryan but Galen is still here.  Isn't it time Rafe is killed or something? Oh well at least MA is returning.

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Interesting Google search suggestion on BD about his net worth... $3 million.

Good or bad in 2018? 

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3 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

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Can't blame him. Think they'll reunite him and Sami?

From they way he wrote that, I don't think it was his decision.

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Because good actors who are patient and loyal are never rewarded on this show?

 

... I just realized I don't think we'll ever see Kayla and Steve's house again. That was such a beautiful set and it was only used for that stomach-turning Ava crap.

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