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S01.E01: Family Therapy Begins 2016.03.16

Wasn't Michael Lohan on "Celebrity Rehab"? I can't for the life of me figure out how I know that, and I'm ashamed of myself for remembering that but not how to divide fractions.

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Omg Sister Patterson, he was sitting right next to her. Quit being a drama queen and can't say a damned thing without her jumping down all their throats and no wonder Tiffany can't get along with her. And then her to go out and talk to the other people when she made the big scene. No they didn't leave them, you were being obnoxious and loud and no one could even talk because you were being so loud. My gosh what a piece of work.

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Lord, have mercy! Sister Patterson needs to leave. I know this "therapy" is bull, but she is being disruptive to the others. I'm just here for Bam and April and S.P. is ruining my vibe. Also, I consider Bam to be a celebrity, even a bigger celebrity than Dame Dash.

 

Anyway, as I said, I'm here for Bam because I love the Jackass movies and I was a fan of Viva La Bam. I can't believe how far down he's gone. I mean, I shouldn't be surprised, but seeing him was really jarring for me. What was wrong with his mouth that was making him talk funny? I know he used to talk a little funny before, but it was so much more pronounced here. Was it because he's doubled in size? Anyway, I have a soft spot for him and the sight of him nearly made me cry. I don't know if this show is going to help him, but I really hope that he gets SOME help before it is too late.

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What was wrong with his mouth that was making him talk funny? I know he used to talk a little funny before, but it was so much more pronounced here. 

My guess would be "a shitload of alcohol". He sounded wasted in a lot of his talking heads. 

 

I would never make it in one of those houses, because I would have told "Sister" to STFU from the start. "Your therapists ABANDONED YOU!" Yes, to deal with your disruption, bitch. S. T. F. U. I don't know if I can survive this season with her screaming the entire time and being insane.

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VH1 can rot for killing Hindsight "to make room for original programming" like this.

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New York´s mother is a mentally ill psychopath who should be locked up in an asylum. She´s too horrible for me to watch, I have incredible tolerance for disgusting reality tv people but she´s too much. It´s obvious that she´s abused New York (Tiffany) her whole life and that´s why NY is damaged in some ways and doesn´t really have a chance of a real life. When she whispered that she´d take her baby, that was just pure demonic evil.

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What the heck was that? Who is Sister Patterson? I truly don't understand.

 

The neverending Lohan saga/drama. They are simply  both horrible people.

 

And some rough looking tatted up guy with a massive substance abuse probelm?

 

Dr Jenn certainly has her hands full. 

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Satan´s sister Patterson makes Dina Lohan look positively angelic :)

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Satan´s sister Patterson makes Dina Lohan look positively angelic :)

Now there's something you never thought could happen. Someone be worse then Dina/Michael Logan lol

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I know, I find them sinister, but I wouldn´t literally be in fear for my life if I had to share a house with them for a couple of days....

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"Sister Patterson" isn't mentally ill at all, unless her mental illness is "I want my own reality show-itus." She's playing the "Loud, Angry Black Woman" part.   She's an even bigger famewhore than her daughter.

 

A few years ago, I saw a picture of Tiffany without that ridiculous weave.  She said she was going to study to be a real actress.  I guess that didn't work, she's back with the weave and the attitude.

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Nah, I don´t agree neurochick, I think she´s on a whole other level and not comparable to the other loud, angry, crazy (black) women who regularly grace us with their presence on reality tv. I don´t know if she´s in need of a doctor or a priest though. If I had to bet I´d say the latter, or both.

 

Dina Lohan should have been warned to bring a bible and keep it on her person at all times ;)

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Nah, I don´t agree neurochick, I think she´s on a whole other level and not comparable to the other loud, angry, crazy (black) women who regularly grace us with their presence on reality tv. I don´t know if she´s in need of a doctor or a priest though. If I had to bet I´d say the latter, or both.

 

Dina Lohan should have been warned to bring a bible and keep it on her person at all times ;)

 

She is on another level because that is what a person has to bring now.  Everything is crazier, the crazier you are the more camera time you get and the more camera time you get, the more likely it is that you get your own show. 

 

I say this because I remember a few years ago when Tiffany took her weave out and said she was going to start going on auditions, she looked very pretty without the weave.  Now here she is again, back on VH1, with her mother and both of them have crazy looking weaves.  The only cure for her mother is a new reality show on VH1.

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I think it could just as easily be possible that Tiffany/New York could just have decided she prefers her beweaved and eyelashed self than without. And perhaps that it's a lot easier to get a reality show gig than a legit acting one.

I think Michelle (she's no sister of mine) is just as nutty as I always thought she was if not more so, and that she truly buys into those visions or whatever she calls that abhorrent personality of hers.

I hate to say that I almost kinda sorta believe Michael Lohan just a teensy bit in regard to Dina. She does seem mighty adept at steering any conversation she is a part of towards her being abused. That said, I don't know that I can buy his claim that he's only done it once. I can't really believe either one of them much further than I could throw them together with my pinky. They seem cut from the same cloth. For all that Dina is quick to paint herself with the victim brush, Michael seems just as swift to go but-what-about-her?!? and make her out to be as bad as possible.

I never really got into Teen Mom so there's only a select few of the cast members that I recognize. These sisters would not make that list. That said, the one that had the abortion seems soooo mean. She just talks to her sister so nasty, and i don't follow her logic about what leads her to coming at her sister even harder.

Bam. WTF. Damn, dude....

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I am personally mortified to be watching this show, but,
like MitaJo, I'm in it only for Bam & Ape, who I really
miss. These other people are loathesome (sp). Except for
those 2, this is torturous to sit through.

 

I don't even know who Sister Patterson and her daughter
are or those 2 young sisters. I had to laugh though at
Sister P's reaction to Mrs. Lohan. Evil, bad vibes. (And
I'm loving Bam's reaction to some of these people. Very
understated for him. I'm liking his quiet reactions.)

 

Yeah, Bam looks terrible & I am heartbroken for him. He
looks like he's in so much pain. I have a huge soft spot
for him, too, MitaJo, and seeing him does make me cry. I
cried with April when she described her lowest point as
I could imagine how awful that Christmas was. We've already
seen him do some pretty awful things. But out of fun as
oppposed to crying out for help.

 

I did read something about him being sober for 3 months
now (at the time of the article) and seeing this show I'm
surprised that it was any help to him at all. (And if he is

sober I'm wondering how he plans to maintain that

considering his lifestyle/friends.)

 

I think they're screened for drugs/alcohol so Bam's slurring
could just be his PA accent which he kind of overdoes anyway.
He also could be on anti-depressant/zanax type meds.

I can't see how this situation is very therapeutic at all.
Too many people, most of them deranged and playing for the
camera. And that anger counselor kind of scares me. He's
got very pissed off eyes.

 

I'm glad that Bam's getting some help & April's a trooper
for going along with this, but I really wished they could
have gone a saner, more private route. I'm embarrassed for
them both to be in the company of these tragic raging assholes.

 

I sort of tend to believe Michael Lohan's take on the ex too, but

he overdoes it and I think he's just in it for the publicity. I can

actually see the 2 of them after this is over laughing their

asses off in their limo and counting their money. I'm not

buying their act.

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Holy shit show, Dr. Jenn really has her job cut out for her.  I can't see her getting anywhere with any of these folks.  Sr. Patterson definitely is in it for the attention/paycheck.  I actually feel sorry for Tiffany, she really seems afraid of her own mother.  I would, too.

 

This is going to be a crazy season.  I can already imagine the producers taking SP aside and telling her to tone it down for a while because the Lohans want some air time, too, LOL.

 

I remember the sisters from Teen Mom.  The one that had an abortion ended up providing just as much care as her sister for her sister's baby.  They really didn't do much of anything but sit around.  They were pretty boring.

 

I didn't watch Bam and I have no idea who the three brothers are/were.  Everyone but SP and the Lohans will probably fade into the background anyway. 

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So glad that this show has a thread, because I don't know anyone IRL who is watching!

 

I am a counselor working on the very long road toward licensure (3,000 hours!!) so naturally I'm curious anytime the therapy process is shown on TV. All taken with a grain of salt of course because its a reality TV show...on VH1.

 

I hate saying this but Sister Patterson kind of had a point when she brought up to Dr. Jenn and Dr. Conte that they could have introduced themselves and explained the process and group therapy before launching into "So tell us why you are here?" in front of everyone. I'm not sure how authentic that remark was but she had a point. 

 

Her approach however...totally off base. Sister Patterson was practically eating the scenery she was so over the top! How old is this woman? Mid 50's? 60s? And here she is shrieking and carrying on. Kudos to Tiffany and everyone else who all kept their cool which she was acting an ass during that first session. 

 

I had to giggle when the male counselor said he was just following Sister Patterson and Tiffany into their bedroom---along with 2 male cameramen! All while Sister Patterson is making it seem like he snuck into their room Peeping Tom style!

 

Also, I remember Tiffany from her Flavor of Love days and seeing her so calm (for her at least) I hope they explain what happened to her dad. 

 

Seeing Bam shocked me, he looks awful. I hope there is actual therapy happening in this house away from the cameras because its apparent he has some serious substance abuse issues and his mom is clearly desperately worried for his life. Isn't Bam married? I wonder if his wife will make an appearance.

 

Can't say much for the 16 and Pregnant girls since they are the exact season I stopped watching that show so I have no clue who they are.They seem super out of place in this cast.

 

Dina and Michael make no sense. I can't figure out why exactly they are in therapy (fake or otherwise). All of their children are adults now, so its not like they have some co-parenting situation to work through. They don't seem to like each other at all both are so self involved that it makes it impossible to even care about who is right or wrong in this story. Michael by the way has children with his second wife and he doesn't even have custody of them so that speaks volumes about him and where he is in life.

 

Also, it seems really important to Michael that Dina admit to using cocaine with him. He's probably right! It's like the one shred of truth he has to cling to in the whole mess of their relationship!

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I don't buy that Michael or Dina are on this show for legitimate reasons. I think they both have issues and neither are worth rooting for.  They're both in it for money and full of shit.

 

I really like April! She's always seemed like a sweetheart. I hope that Bam gets real help after this show is done. He needs to be in an intensive inpatient rehab facility that is not filmed for a network.

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Bam's PA accent wasn't exaggerated before--I'm from the same town and it's just how a lot of people talk there. I had the accent when I was really little but my non-PA native parents would point it out and make me speak with a standard accent. Anyway, you can barely hear his accent now for all the slurring. :( I think he really only went downhill like that after Ryan Dunn's death, though.

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People seem to know who Bam is but I have no idea who he is.  I do know who Tiffany aka New York is and the Dash brother, and the Lohans of course, but the others, never heard of them. 

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Also, I remember Tiffany from her Flavor of Love days and seeing her so calm (for her at least) I hope they explain what happened to her dad.

 

If they have a freezer in the basement, I'd look there first.  Just sayin', he probably looked at SP the wrong way one time. . . .

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Neurochick, Bam is a skateboarder (although I don't know how much of he's capable of

doing now) who had a reality show on MTV in the mid's 2000's. He's also been part of

the Jackass crew (Johnny Knoxville, Steve O, those guys). His own show included his

his family and friends. He started drinking heavily and really going downhill when his best

friend Ryan Dunn was killed in a car crash a few yrs ago.

 

I grew to really love Bam's family and some/most of his friends. It was a great show

although the last season or two was way too obviously scripted and not as enjoyable.

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I've figured out who Sister Crazy Pants reminds me of - Carrie's mom from the movie Carrie.

From now on, I shall call her "Piper Laurie".

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IDK who to believe in regards to Michael and Dina. He said he only hit her once which I don't believe since he was on coke and if you hit your wife once, you're going to do it again. I can understand why Michael is upset with Dina because it does look like she exaggerates her stories in regards to Michael because she said that Michael threw the t-shirt at her when he simply showed it to her and laid it down on the table. He didn't throw it at her. 

 

She's going to keep bringing up the abuse as that is what she's scared of the most and being an abuse victim you can be traumatized and it also makes Michael look guilty of repeated abuse because he doesn't want to hear it. That's what guilty people do, they walk out of the room because they don't want to hear the truth and lay it back on the victim, it's like that "you made me do it" argument that abusers like to throw out. Part of therapy is hearing things that you don't want to hear.

 

Sister Patterson I think is severly acting for the cameras. It's just too much but I do try to remind myself that there are crazy people out there in the world. She never feels like she's ever in the wrong and she can basically suck the energy out of everyone within her vicinity because her personality is so draining. It's very sad that Tiffany is coming off sane.

 

The Damon brothers Damon just thinks that because he buys and pays for things that his word is law or he can have power over the other two. The way he talks to them is so below the belt. On the other hand the other one (Forgot his name, the actor), jusst because Damon makes movies doesn't mean that Damon is obligated to hire him to star in any of them. They're not the Wayans family.

 

Out of everyone I'm really hoping that Bam gets help the most. Poor man having lost friends and grieved by drinking alcohol and letting it consume his life. He's going to be going through the most because he's also detoxing while there.

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Why are the Lohans even there? They are divorced. Their children are adults. There is no need for them to have any contact, much less work on a re!ationship.

Oh yeah I forgot, they are famewhores who live off the celebrity of their child(ren)

Never mind.

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I really hope Sister Pattetson and Michael Lohann are at least partly acting for the camera. If they're really like this in real life it's no wonder their kids got so screwed up.

I feel particularly sorry for Tiffany having to always manage her volatile mom and the situation around her, while hoping to get some help.

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Bam's uncle ("Don Vito" from his show) died last year in November. I wonder when this was filmed - before or after and if after how soon after? He died in November. I wonder if it'll even be mentioned since he pretty much had to stay out of the public eye, after the molestation charges he was ordered to not portray his "Don Vito" character for his 10 year probation that wasn't to end until 2017.

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If they have a freezer in the basement, I'd look there first.  Just sayin', he probably looked at SP the wrong way one time. . . .

 

My first thought was, "Sister P probably ate him!!"

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Love love love April.

Dina exaggerates things. She kept saying Michael threw the shirt at her face. I understand her being scared of his crazy ass but her saying he threw the shirt at her face is a lie. I think both live in their own world. Dina plays nice even though she stated something about getting in a fight with Sister Shut The Hell Up. She plays nice to get people on her side because she is soooooo nice. Michael is a lunatic and I think they drive each other crazy and shouldn't be around each other. They both push each others buttons. I believe he hit her more than once. There is so much to say about them. I think the truth is in the middle somewhere.

Sister Shut The Hell Up, does this often. This is why Tiffany can't talk to her because if she doesn't like what Tiffany is saying she shuts down and gets even. She didn't like it when everyone raised their hands that she intimidated them and ran and hid and wussied out like a chump. Because that is how she is. She is right and no one else has an opinion. If she doesn't like it she sulks.

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Rebecca, I wonder if Vito's death, his prior antics and his unhealthy lifestye helped

Bam to see that Bam himself needed to clean up to avoid being another Vito.

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So glad that this show has a thread, because I don't know anyone IRL who is watching!

 

I am a counselor working on the very long road toward licensure (3,000 hours!!) so naturally I'm curious anytime the therapy process is shown on TV. All taken with a grain of salt of course because its a reality TV show...on VH1.

 

I hate saying this but Sister Patterson kind of had a point when she brought up to Dr. Jenn and Dr. Conte that they could have introduced themselves and explained the process and group therapy before launching into "So tell us why you are here?" in front of everyone. I'm not sure how authentic that remark was but she had a point. !

Hang in there, my 3,000 hours is almost 20 years ago, and it is so worth it. Good luck!

I think Dr. Jenn still has a private non-tv practice, so I can't imagine that she and Dr. Conte wouldn't have some sort of individual pre-show prep for the participants as to what to expect. Also, I hope Bam would have to have been medically cleared to be there.

I would sage the shit out of my office if Sister Patterson ever rolled through there for sure. Cuddly, my ass. Like a cobra with a tarantula on its head as a poisonous weave.

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When "Dr." Jenn asked if anyone felt intimidated by Sista P, and most everyone raised their hands?  SP immediately started yelling "they're lying!!!". In other words, if your personal reality does not jive with hers, you're lying.  I was having flashbacks to my ex bigtime.

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Rebecca, I wonder if Vito's death, his prior antics and his unhealthy lifestye helped

Bam to see that Bam himself needed to clean up to avoid being another Vito.

 

I've never watched any of these therapy shows but I'm watching this because I've always had such a soft spot for Bam. I used to look forward to his Sirius radio show every week but stopped even before it went off the air because over time it went from Bam and the guys from Jackass/Viva that he grew up sitting around having a radio show, to Bam and all these random seemingly "yes men friends" drunk on air being obnoxious telling stories about Bam's bar in PA. When I heard Bam was doing a show like this I immediately wondered if maybe Vito's death sent him into a spiral. Bam would talk about him on the radio after the lawsuit and I don't think it would be illegal for Bam to say "After the death of his uncle..." Maybe the timeline will be made clearer over some more episodes, so far it's been the Patterson and Lohan show. I really don't get why Bam is even there. He and April don't have direct issues, that I know of. She's been wanting him to get help for years and even though obviously he hasn't yet listened, they don't have a bad relationship (that I know of.) His issues seem to be too deep for this show. I don't know if one of Bam's old problem's is still relevant -or even alive-, but, one of his very best friends 'Novak' is a life-long heroine addict who made a career living off (and with, at times) Bam. No way will Bam be able to get clean if that guy is still around, for a while at least too Bam always seemed to use him as a crutch, no matter what Bam did "he would never do what Novak has" so therefore he's not so bad off. I've been waiting to see if he's brought up, too. 

 

I'm trying to hang in and watch this but I'm just not sure I can do it. The Lohan's and Tiffany's mom are too much. I love April but I don't get how she can be there, is that really the only way to help Bam? I've never seen those two girls from Teen Mom before tuning into this show but I feel bad for them, I'm still not entirely sure why they're there, since they've hardly been on because people old enough to be their parents are tantrums left and right so nothing is getting done 3 episodes in. They seem decent enough and don't seem to have any serious addiction issues, they can probably be helped if they were actually having sessions.

 

On the Couples Therapy shows and such, is there more therapy that goes on? Or is this pretty much the norm for all of these shows, one or two people constantly making scenes and everyone else reacting? 

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Seeing Bam is pretty heartbreaking. If anything he and April are the ones that may make progress. Bam openly talking about his reasons for drinking and his depression over losing his friend speak volumes about him. It takes alot of courage to admit that type of thing. And with his parents he has a strong support system which he'll need to fight his demons.

 

The Teen Mom girls are kind of getting lost in the shuffle. Sounds like their mom should be in the house too, I think based off the previews she makes an appearance.

 

Sounds like Dina and Michael were a trainwreck from the start 30 years ago. I really hope Dr. Jenn brings up the fact that they truly don't need to have a relationship with one another. Their children are grown and Michael has even remarried and has other children by his new wife...he doesn't have custody of said children but that's a topic for another time! Their relationship was effed up but their primary concern should be strengthening the individual relationships they have with their children. Re-hashing abuse from decades ago will get them nowhere. I believe that Michael probably put his hands on her more than once but she seems so fixated on it. Security guards? Really, Dina? In a home full of other people plus cameras, you need armed security guards?  

 

Also, interesting to me...Michael has remarried, but Dina has not. As I think back I'm not sure I've ever heard of her being linked to someone else. I'd bet that Dina is still very much in love with Michael, I just get an inkling. 

 

I may be in the minority but I don't think Sister Patterson is acting. The way Tiffany is acting around her mom is very consistent with how she acted when they were on Flavor of Love. Tiffany (who has a very large personality) sort of shrinks into herself whenever her mom is around. Tiffany is currently on a show called The Next 15 and there she is acting and hamming it up for the camera. On Family Therapy I think she is being herself and reacting organically to her mom. 

 

Damon Dash comes across as very, very unlikeable. 

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Gigi, I too listened to Radio Bam & then stopped after awhile when
the Viva La Bam crew stopped coming around. I could barely handle
Shitbird and could care less about the others who showed up along
with him. I think around the time Minghags was released the show
really went downhill, and I just couldn't listen anymore.

 

I don't really understand why Bam is there either. After his game
show disappeared I wondered if he was having a hard time getting
any of his show ideas on tv & maybe this was a last resort? But
this thought doesn't really work for me either. Frankly, I was
shocked to learn that Ape and Bam would be appearing on this show
which is total crap. It's been unbearable watching this, but I'm
only hanging in there for Bam & April as I really miss them on my
screen.

 

I don't think Bam has a bad relationship with either of his parents
or his brother. I've always liked that about them, how supportive
his family has been of the things he's wanted to do and in turn
Bam has always seemed to include his family and friends in all his
projects (giving them work & income). Until the friends started to
disappear to be replaced by all these hangers on. I think Ryan was
the only one from the old crew that he still saw. And maybe Hanna. I
got the feeling though that Ryan wasn't around all that much either
I never liked his relationship with Novak as Novak seemed to drive
the others away & was a poor influence on Bam.

 

I've not heard him speak about Vito (but I would like to. They had
an odd relationship, but I always had the feeling that Bam did love
him), but I've been out of the Bam loop for a long time.

 

I'm responding to this as I read along to your post & see that you
mention Novak, too, Bam's "life partner."  Before coming here I

checked in at Ryan Gee's to see if there's any info there but all the

Bam posts are really old. I'm sure he's still or was hanging with Novak

but don't see how he can now if he's really serious about recovery.

Novak's situation is heartbreaking cause he had so much potential

and I can't see him ever getting clean.

 

His issues do seem too deep for this show. And I don't think his family
is at the root of these issues either, which, isn't that the theme of
the show? It's hard for me to see this as Bam & April being hard up
for money if that was the motivation.

 

How's Bam detoxing around all these crazy, fame whores?

 

I'm having a hard time hanging in with this show, too. I can't stand
the yelling/fighting and do not like any of these other people, most
of whom I've never heard of. And I don't see how these group sessions
can address anything that Bam's going through.

 

Kylies-lips, yeah, I think Bam does have a strong support system in his
family. I hope his new wife (if she's still in the picture) is on board
with his recovery too. From what I've seen of her my shallow, not very
informed view is that she's possibly another bad influence. I hope I'm
wrong.

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I know next to nothing about his new wife, just that I heard he was married again. When he married that girl Missy I remember thinking "he's not going to change for you", because she clearly thought marriage would change the freeloaders in the house and his traveling/partying/drinking. I questioned if she put up with him as long as she did and married him because the money/fame helped even out the project aspects of being in a relationship with him, because she didn't seem to be into the hard partying life he lead. I do think she cared for him and if he had ever wanted to get clean while they were married she would have been very supportive. Maybe he and the new wife are not together and that's why he's there with April? Or maybe April's just the one most likely to get through to him? Or did VH1 want to " cast" April because Bam's audience knows her and she fits a "normal person" role in the house dynamics? She hasn't been mentioned. Who knows.

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1. Someone asked if couples therapy was like this. I only watched the last season, and that wasn't as obnoxious as this, because the couples on the show mostly seemed to genuinely want to improve their relationships. So while there was stupid volatility, they also showed growth. These aren't couples who are in love with each other and With sister Patterson and Michael Lohann in that house it's really hard for the others to make improvements.

2. I wasn't familiar with Bam before this show but have looked at old photos and videos in the last couple of days. He barely looks like the same person. You can see how much alcohol is in his system just looking at him. Very sad.

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1. Someone asked if couples therapy was like this. I only watched the last season, and that wasn't as obnoxious as this, because the couples on the show mostly seemed to genuinely want to improve their relationships. So while there was stupid volatility, they also showed growth. These aren't couples who are in love with each other and With sister Patterson and Michael Lohann in that house it's really hard for the others to make improvements.

2. I wasn't familiar with Bam before this show but have looked at old photos and videos in the last couple of days. He barely looks like the same person. You can see how much alcohol is in his system just looking at him. Very sad.

I believe Dr. Jenn is a good therapist who knows what she's doing. But there are too many highly dysfunctional people this season. How is she going to do therapy with him when she spends all her time trying to get them not to scream at each other and to stay in the same room?

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Bam & Missy were childhood friends. What possessed her to marry
him, I don't know. I have no doubt that she loved him, but he
didn't really seem ready to settle down & his lifestyle, at the
time, did not seem like something she would be comfortable with
on a day to day basis. His serious drug/drink problems didn't come
until later though. I remember being shocked when he started smoking
- cigerettes. A few of his friends smoked back then but he never
picked up the habit so to see him start smoking was really startling.

 

I don't really know anything about the 2nd wife except that she was
or is a model & all the pics I've seen of her she's kind of sceevy
looking, but that doesn't say much. Book/cover. She could be a delight
& completely in his corner.

 

Cramps, yeah, Bam was so cute in his younger & so full of life/joy.
This older version is very sad.

 

I'm thinking/hoping that there are more sessions, perhaps private/
individual sessions that we're not being shown and there is real
work being done there.

 

I don't get the Lohan's either. They should just go their separate
ways. Their adult children probably do not spend any time with both
of them together. If they spend any time with them at all.

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Why does New York/Tiffany's mother want people to refer to her as Sister Patterson?  Is that a religious reference? because I don't get it.  I'm Catholic and when we refer to someone as "sister" it's either because they're a nun or someone's actual sibling.  The Lohans are a ridiculous mess and must be broke as a damned joke to air all their dirty laundry on national TV.

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Why does New York/Tiffany's mother want people to refer to her as Sister Patterson? Is that a religious reference? because I don't get it. I'm Catholic and when we refer to someone as "sister" it's either because they're a nun or someone's actual sibling. The Lohans are a ridiculous mess and must be broke as a damned joke to air all their dirty laundry on national TV.

Flavor Flav referred to her as Sister Patterson when she made an appearance on the first season of FoL. She's been SP ever since.

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Flavor Flav referred to her as Sister Patterson when she made an appearance on the first season of FoL. She's been SP ever since.

Really?! Just Cuz FF gave her a nickname? Man did she get indignant about it.

 

Love Ape and Bam. Soooo sad.

 

Lohans….Liars

 

Brit and Brianna were boring on their show. I wonder what the big secret is. I think it might have to do with the father or fathers.

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Curious: I've seen April referred to as "Ape" on here a couple of times, is that a nickname with which she's comfortable? My friend, April, finds that rude and disrespectful and doesn't let people call her that and I totally understand her point of view.

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Curious: I've seen April referred to as "Ape" on here a couple of times, is that a nickname with which she's comfortable? My friend, April, finds that rude and disrespectful and doesn't let people call her that and I totally understand her point of view.

Most of her family referred to her as Ape at one point or another on Viva La Bam, so I assume she's okay with it. My sister-in-law's name is April and my brother calls her Ape sometimes just as a nickname. She doesn't mind either. Depends on the person I guess.

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Whoa nelly, SP is cuckoo for cocopuffs ! ! !  Anyone else think that Dr. Jenn got Tiffany outta there when she wasn't feeling well because she was afraid SP poisoned her?

 

That handwriting analyst was great about throwing the truth out at both SP and Dena and really held his own with SP.  It was quite entertaining, despite being dubious in credibility.  I wonder how the art of handwriting analysis has changed with the overall death of cursive.

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You know it's bad when Michael Lohan comes off looking like one of the most sane people in the room. 

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