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Ahhhh sweet fuckery that is black ink Chicago you are back and reaching new levels of rachetness – I think I may be impressed. 

Liked the scene with Ryan and his family seemed genuine and real. 

Charmaine, a thot is a thot whether you in a penthouse apt or a basement apt. I guess I’m glad you found someone who accepts you…. I think?

Danielle, it is well within your bosses right to ban your boyfriend from 9Mag events if on the last two occasions he has been pissy drunk and had a confrontation with the boss.  Sorry no sympathy for your tears about not being where you thought you would be career wise at 26. Have you put in any work? The only things they have shown is that you down for a party and not really focused on the job you do have. What did you expect?  Even Charmaine who is worse than you had enough focus and drive to go after an opportunity outside of the shop to put her on a path for a career in radio.  So don’t turn on the waterworks about something you haven’t treated with any degree of seriousness.

OK what’s going on with Van?  I think there were a couple of side comments on him tweaking or being on something and I wonder if it could be true because his demeanor seems totally out of character.  He also looks a little puffy and bloated.  The problem is that Ryan never firmly established a structure for the business and him being the boss and everyone else as an employee. Now it’s coming to bite him in the ass. 

Don and Hoodrat wife – WTF she is cray cray.  How you gonna come in and say “hey I am tired of working and I am going to quit my job, you need to step up” and not understand why someone is upset especially when you didn’t present it as “this is what I want, lets discuss how we can make it happen and when”.  Especially since it is still a mystery to me , DOES DON HAVE A JOB?????  The fuckery at the party – oh lawd that was a mess.  I agree with why Don was upset but not to the degree.  This isn’t the first time I got the feeling “Has he ever hit her?”

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Whoa, what a show.

I thought Van was on something; I mean didn't he just get out of jail?  The way he's acting, he's going to be right back in there.

I liked seeing Ryan and his family, that felt real.  I like Ryan and Rachel together, at least she's not ratchet.

Don and Mrs. Don.  What is wrong with her?  She thinks it's okay for her to just quit her job because she wants to spend time with her children?  Does she know how to count?  Do they have enough money for her to stay home?  Maybe she's relying on that "Black Ink Crew" paycheck to make a difference.

I don't feel for Danielle at all.  What is it with these women and lousy men?  I thought her boyfriend was a jerk last season and now she's in love with him?  Wait, last season didn't Danielle and Ryan hook up?  Maybe that's the real reason she's upset with Ryan, she's not with him.

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It looks like we are on the same page about Van Neurochic.  Yes, Van is out on parole which is another reason that him doing the most is just stupid. But more importantly this behavior is totally out of line of how he was depicted last season.  Van seemed like the most level headed of the crew and was seemingly focused on being a good role model for his daughter.  The  way he was acting threw me for a loop which is why I think he was on something.  

Danielle and Charmaine, I have no sympathy for any of the situations they get themselves in Sorry (not sorry)  Danielle and her man have been together for seven years.  SEVEN. After all that time you should know what a hot mess he is and know you can't bring him around certain company.  Yes, I think Danielle and Ryan did hook up which is even MORE of a reason that he shouldn't be at 9Mag functions.  But then again this is the woman who felt making her boyfriend jealous would lead to a ring.   Which leads to Ashley.

What is with these women who want to be married for the sake of being married regardless of the character of the men.  Don nor Terrance are a prize and the thirst to married to them boggles my mind.  Hell none of men on here is a prize, not even Ryan and he is the most together male on the show.  

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10 hours ago, NYCNJbear06 said:

What is with these women who want to be married for the sake of being married regardless of the character of the men.  Don nor Terrance are a prize and the thirst to married to them boggles my mind.  Hell none of men on here is a prize, not even Ryan and he is the most together male on the show.  

I agree but I think I get it.  Years ago there was a book called, "Is Marriage For White People?"  There was an insinuation that black people didn't get married.  Maybe these women want to prove that wrong.

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I am gonna need somebody Hell, ANYbody to take a business course.   How you gonna feel you a co-owner in a shop when you not providing any papers to that effect?  Yes, it is Ryan’s fault that he let this “family business” culture BS last too long but, (looking at Charmaine, Danielle and Van) that don’t mean everyone is a full partner and considered an owner.   Changing the locks was a petty passive aggressive move on Ryan’s part.  He could have at least let everyone who wasn’t there when the locksmith changed locks know so it wasn’t a surprise.  I agree not everyone should have a key but Ryan, the receptionist/office manager for sure.  Maybe Van could get one if he is the most senior staff member  but everyone else NOPE.  Ryan just should  cut everyone loose and build up the business and staff it how he sees fit from the ground up.  Charmaine and Danielle really need to shut their mouths because they aren’t artist Ryan can find a trained monkey to do their jobs.  At least Phor and Van have a skill.

I see Charmaine is still up to her ratchet tricks, now she taking them to the radio station.   Charmaine has a college degree and has worked in a corporate environment so she should know that her stunt with her man in the booth was unacceptable.  Her boss’s point (I think) was that her man stopping by the station wasn’t a problem; the problem was bringing him the booth while she was in there in the middle of doing her job conducting an interview which she put on pause to make out with her BF.  That is unprofessional and disrespectful to the guest artist.  Don’t get me started on the eye rolling etc. when she spoke with her boss in the hall it was too much. I would have fired her right there on the spot. 

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I think the problem with ALL of these people is they need to grow the fuck up.  They aren't a bunch of teenagers, they're adults so they should act like adults.  Van, Charmaine, Danielle are the worst.  

I'm worried about Van.  Van is going to end up in jail again if he doesn't get his anger in check.  He has to think about his daughter and where she would be if he goes back to jail.  If Van doesn't like what Ryan is doing then he should start his OWN tattoo shop.

Charmaine isn't doing anything else but playing the "ratchet" game.  Last season they went to her parent's home and Ryan commented that she was "a Cosby kid."  Her parents looked like they had money.  Charmaine went to college, she worked in a corporate world, she's playing ratchet for a storyline.

Danielle is a hot mess.  I used to think she was okay, but now she's all "ME, ME, ME."  She came to see Kat unannounced, and then got upset when Kat was with her man in the club?  Grow up Danielle, people can only have one primary relationship at a time.

But,

Ryan also needs to grow up.  If you own a business, you can't just change the locks without having a meeting with your employees.  Ryan listened to what Rachel said, but the business doesn't belong to her.  

But Van should pay for the windows since HE broke them.  Whoa at security breaking up the fight.  Crazy.

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These are a bunch of idiots. 

Ryan is primarily at fault here. I'm sure he started out 'everyone has a voice, we are all family, WE are 9MAG' but then when VH1 licensing and cash showed up, now he's the boss. Ryan wasn't the only one running/creating 9MAG. If that were the case, he wouldn't have needed/included a staff to whom he gave basically equal status. My analysis doesn't include Charmaine/Danielle, but people like Kat (who is equally, if not more talented) and Phor/Van (even Don) who are more personable and probably bring more foot traffic into the shop on a regular. Ryan is too stuck on himself to cultivate a steady client base, and before this show he was not dragging all the celebs he wants us to think he was.

Ryan is a straight bitch ass IMO. He feels like he can holler at, cuss, and talk to people any kind of way, but then get offended if he is treated reciprocally. I also think Rachel came back to a steady paycheck and is now in his ear trying to run shit and be another Dusty Dutchess. Notice after she had her outside baby by who she thought would be a big star (Jeremih), she was out the door for the bright lights of LA. Now all of a sudden, he ain't popping, she is back in Chicago to pick up those VH1 checks and be 'in love' with Ryan's punk ass again.

Phor is the pussiest of all pussies. He will never pop off musically, and he knows this, so he will never condemn wrong as long as he is getting his TV paycheck. We've seen that in prior seasons, and it's back now. JR is a nobody, as is the new receptionist. Ryan is going to torpedo his show because of ego. At least Cease let the Puma/Sky/O'Shit/Donna mess play out for years and got his money that way while stacking for other locations. Ryan (and the little voice beside him, Rachel) is smelling himself too fast and is letting go of the personalities that make his show a show. In the words of NeNe, he's playing for the wrong team.  Once he fires all the personalites, he's left with nothing, while Cease's non-tattooing ass has opened up other branches/tv franchises. Phor, JR, and Dumbass Ashley/Don drama aren't enough to keep me tuning in.

Speaking of Mr. and Mrs. Dumbass...could Trashley have made it any more clear that she only married Don for the title/'prestige' of being married? Now she wants to quit her job and be a stay at home mom to a kid who's about to go to kindergarten? Bitch, the raggedy piece of man you got (who you are probably still sharing) has ZERO skills, ZERO education, a short lived position on a fourth tier tv show, and is the unskilled "assistant" to his brother who barely works part time. In what world do you see him supporting you in some grand Mommy lifestyle? You basically saying you ain't gonna work and it's up to Phor to support you all. And Phor is a big enough bitch to do it. 

Ashley, bye. I need Don's other baby momma to have at least finished her degree and be leading the little girl in a better direction cuz her daddy's side aint shit. 

Glad Kat is out, I wonder if she will be getting a spinoff or opening/working in a legit shop out West. She, like Ryan, is talented, and I hope at least one of them escapes the stupidity trap and prospers.

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On 7/30/2017 at 4:41 AM, sunsheyen said:

These are a bunch of idiots. 

Ryan is primarily at fault here. I'm sure he started out 'everyone has a voice, we are all family, WE are 9MAG' but then when VH1 licensing and cash showed up, now he's the boss. Ryan wasn't the only one running/creating 9MAG. If that were the case, he wouldn't have needed/included a staff to whom he gave basically equal status. My analysis doesn't include Charmaine/Danielle, but people like Kat (who is equally, if not more talented) and Phor/Van (even Don) who are more personable and probably bring more foot traffic into the shop on a regular. Ryan is too stuck on himself to cultivate a steady client base, and before this show he was not dragging all the celebs he wants us to think he was.

Ryan is a straight bitch ass IMO. He feels like he can holler at, cuss, and talk to people any kind of way, but then get offended if he is treated reciprocally. I also think Rachel came back to a steady paycheck and is now in his ear trying to run shit and be another Dusty Dutchess. Notice after she had her outside baby by who she thought would be a big star (Jeremih), she was out the door for the bright lights of LA. Now all of a sudden, he ain't popping, she is back in Chicago to pick up those VH1 checks and be 'in love' with Ryan's punk ass again.

Phor is the pussiest of all pussies. He will never pop off musically, and he knows this, so he will never condemn wrong as long as he is getting his TV paycheck. We've seen that in prior seasons, and it's back now. JR is a nobody, as is the new receptionist. Ryan is going to torpedo his show because of ego. At least Cease let the Puma/Sky/O'Shit/Donna mess play out for years and got his money that way while stacking for other locations. Ryan (and the little voice beside him, Rachel) is smelling himself too fast and is letting go of the personalities that make his show a show. In the words of NeNe, he's playing for the wrong team.  Once he fires all the personalites, he's left with nothing, while Cease's non-tattooing ass has opened up other branches/tv franchises. Phor, JR, and Dumbass Ashley/Don drama aren't enough to keep me tuning in.

Speaking of Mr. and Mrs. Dumbass...could Trashley have made it any more clear that she only married Don for the title/'prestige' of being married? Now she wants to quit her job and be a stay at home mom to a kid who's about to go to kindergarten? Bitch, the raggedy piece of man you got (who you are probably still sharing) has ZERO skills, ZERO education, a short lived position on a fourth tier tv show, and is the unskilled "assistant" to his brother who barely works part time. In what world do you see him supporting you in some grand Mommy lifestyle? You basically saying you ain't gonna work and it's up to Phor to support you all. And Phor is a big enough bitch to do it. 

Ashley, bye. I need Don's other baby momma to have at least finished her degree and be leading the little girl in a better direction cuz her daddy's side aint shit. 

Glad Kat is out, I wonder if she will be getting a spinoff or opening/working in a legit shop out West. She, like Ryan, is talented, and I hope at least one of them escapes the stupidity trap and prospers.

Kat, is that you?

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Did I really need shots of Vann's uncle laid out in the funeral parlor? Was that an attempt at added drama?  Let the man rest. Geesh.

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Unfortunately, none of us will truly know what the original proposal for starting the shop and who was in the conversation.   The admin staff aside, I can only imagine Van, Phor and Kat being in this convo as they are the talent.   The reason I lean more towards Ryan’s perspective is because it makes more rationale and legal sense.  If there are no contracts or anything in writing that states there are multiple owners/partners then legally (if Ryan’s name is the only one on the lease) Ryan is the sole owner.   Now in the “court of the streets”   it may be seen differently.  It’s known that Kat is working on her own brand and her willingness to leave 9Mag to pursue it tells me that she doesn’t consider herself an owner . Yes, she might have been one of the initial tattoo artist and Ryan more than likely phrased his pitch for her to join him with words like “our shop”  and “we can build an empire” but that doesn’t mean she is an equal partner.  Same goes for Phor who stated himself that his music was his priority and I recall (fuzzily) that he had to “get permission” from Ryan to change his status from a full time tattoo artist.  That doesn’t sound like an owner.   Finally, every staff member (with the exception of Van) has said or acted in a way that they saw Ryan as the boss so I don’t see why now that he is acting like one they have a problem.  

Van is a more complicated situation where I do think there possibly may have been more of a verbal agreement of partnership but if nothing was put in writing somebody is shit outa luck.  Looking at you Van #sorrynotsorry

I would like to know how they are structured too.  Is it set up like a salon or barbershop where the talent pays a booth fee and they personally keep the clients tattoo payment.  The booth payment would go to the business expenses – rent, supplies, merchandise, all the party supplies,  and any profit after expenses goes to the company.  If that is the case then in the scenario that Ryan is the sole owner, then that is his money.   It seems like Van has an issue where he feels that everyone is part owner and feels that the profit that went back into the business he and the other owners are owed their cut. 

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OK SEE.... I think I am out  (Hmmmm how many times have I said that...) 

Did Danielle REALLY have the O-dacity to fix her mouth to say "WE DON'T DO THIS GHETTO SHIT" in the fight between Cobra and Charmaine?    GURL that's ALL YA'LL DO IS GHETTO SHIT.  Hell, ya'll are the wikipedia page of ghetto shit.  WTF.  Also, note to Charmaine - you got some fighting practice in. I see you girl. 

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1 hour ago, NYCNJbear06 said:

OK SEE.... I think I am out  (Hmmmm how many times have I said that...) 

Did Danielle REALLY have the O-dacity to fix her mouth to say "WE DON'T DO THIS GHETTO SHIT" in the fight between Cobra and Charmaine?    GURL that's ALL YA'LL DO IS GHETTO SHIT.  Hell, ya'll are the wikipedia page of ghetto shit.  WTF.  Also, note to Charmaine - you got some fighting practice in. I see you girl

BWAHAHAH!!!  Bout damn time because she was getting her ass tagged every week.

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Yes BKnista, I was getting tired of Charmaine getting tagged every episode and from the looks of it so was she LOL

And another thing  How Danielle gonna come up in the place and say she not fired and she taking her job back?!?!? LMAO

I can see the meme now with Danielle on some ole Aunty Maxine shit "RECLAIMING MY JOB" but you got fired and shouldn't be here "RECLAIMING MY JOB" 

Ahhhh they tickle me so....

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On 7/30/2017 at 5:41 AM, sunsheyen said:

Ryan is a straight bitch ass IMO. He feels like he can holler at, cuss, and talk to people any kind of way, but then get offended if he is treated reciprocally. I also think Rachel came back to a steady paycheck and is now in his ear trying to run shit and be another Dusty Dutchess. Notice after she had her outside baby by who she thought would be a big star (Jeremih), she was out the door for the bright lights of LA. Now all of a sudden, he ain't popping, she is back in Chicago to pick up those VH1 checks and be 'in love' with Ryan's punk ass again.

When someone is the boss, they kind of do have the right to talk to you any kind of way.  If Van's not careful he'll wind up in jail again.  All of them need to grow up, especially Ashley and Don.

As for Rachel, I don't buy this "The new Barak and Michelle Obama"stuff, but I'm glad they're referencing a good black couple.

Don and Ashley should have talked about religion before they got married.  

I thought Danielle was okay, but I think her picture should be in the dictionary under the word "ratchet."  And that girl should have dumped the trash ON her ghetto behind.  Danielle is nothing more than a disrespectful bully with a bad weave.

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See, If I were the new receptionist, I would have calmly said to Van and Danielle that I had instructions from the boss that you should not be on the premises.  If you don’t leave I will be calling the police.  Nuff Said.   It is way above your pay grade to deal with their bs.

Wait…Ashley and Don didn’t have the religion conversation before they got married?  How shocking because they are such a thoughtful and introspective couple.   Also, and it could have been editing, I notice that Ashley conveniently forgot to mention that her actions caused the fight when talking to the minister.     

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Nikki or whatever her name is needs to have a long stay in a nice place, like Bellevue.  I don't get why these women want to fight over these sorry men.

And what were Ryan and Kat doing in the bathroom?

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I gotta give them credit they raise the bar on ratchedtness every week, kudos!

That being said – What the holy hello-kitty did I just watch?!?!?

I can’t imagine Ryan would be so sloppy that he and Cat would do anything in the bathroom knowing that there are cameras all around.  The liquor was flowing freely so maybe….  The convo on the deck was hella suspect though.   For me bottom line – could care less so you crazy kids do you!

Ashley and Don – siggggggghhhhhh SMH  Don is a disgusting boy child (can’t even call him a man) but he was actually behaving himself on the trip then enters insecure, mentally unstable hurricane Ashley going off on him not having a shirt on. WTF?!?!?  Gurl you need to be concerned about him f@cking other people let alone some shirt foolishness.  Ashley just wants to argue for the sake of arguing just so she can say loudly “I AM YOUR WIFE”. 

Phor, Kat and washurname -  good for Kat for sending back the flowers but I think it was a shitty thing to do to send them directly to washurname, yes send them back to the shop and if she came across them so be it.  Or if you wanted her to know about it and not be shady write a note saying something to the effect of woman to woman I think you should know that your man sent me these flowers, unsolicited.  There is nothing going on between us but you should ask Phor why he would send these to me, because I don’t know.   That being said, washurname is cray cray, like bunning burning, stab you in your sleep crazy.  I literally LOL when she slapped Van’s girlfriends drink out her hand.  Was like damn, what she do to you?

Charmaine just nasty and messy.  

OK ya’ll got your feelings out and boxed it out and now ya’ll besties again but did you ever address the issue to begin with?!?!

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13 hours ago, Neurochick said:

Nikki or whatever her name is needs to have a long stay in a nice place, like Bellevue.  I don't get why these women want to fight over these sorry men.

And what were Ryan and Kat doing in the bathroom?

I really want to be in the bathroom with Ryan.

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I get this sense that Charmaine's storyline is fake, fake, fake.  Her boss isn't that good an actor.

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I've barely been watching this show and apparently neither have any of you lol.  I caught the episode where Danielle was yelling at the new receptionist about how she isn't 9mag and she isn't family and my mind was truly blown.  All I could think of was that was production motivated.  Same with Van and this 9mag family that no one else can be apart of.  Has anyone of these people ever heard of expansion and growth?!  And I keep waiting on Ryan to say "have any of yall put in on this"? Cus like @Fairlily26 says if you haven't invested financially, you're an employee.  Like I can't.  This show isn't even amusing anymore.  I cringe when watching. 

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I kinda understand Lily’s point in being pissed at Jr.  but because she was shit faced drunk she couldn’t express it correctly.  I believe her point was that she was upset at seeing Jr. flirt with those other women because she saw that was how he was being with her the night before on their "non-date". Which I found them cute actually.   So the specialness she felt  from him, in her drunk eyes, was BS and she felt played.   She looks like she gonna be a hot mess, so welcome to 9Mag.

If the story line wasn’t so fake I would be worried about Charmaine going to jail.  Who comes up to their job and when they get justifiably fired says I don’t accept that. GTFOH!  No, literally he should have said GTFOH. LOL  I wish she would try and come back on the premises.  Baby, when you are fired from a place if you come back after they told you not to return that’s trespassing and you can get prosecuted for that.    

I actually LOL when they asked Lily “what are you trying to open?” because she was so drunk she thought she was twisting off the cap to liquor bottle because I have done that before LOL

Side note - Some of the artwork at the "Obama" gallery was actually impressive.  There were a couple I wouldn't mind owning (but not Lily's LOL)

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Why in the Sam hell would Lily think it's ok to screw Junior on the counter in Cobra's house and with Cobra there?! That was some mad disrespectful shit! And gross. Not to mention that she knows Covra wants her. You know what? I don't like Lily at all. I think she is disrespectful and just a nasty person, a bitch. I can see why she has issues with people. Junior rushed into this way too soon.

 

Phor, please run from Nikki! Is that the gutter chick's name who wants to fight all the time? He is in an abusive relationship. Notice that after she screams and emasculated him, he apologizes. Oh, and she cries those fake ass, I'm a victim tears. She wants to hold onto him for dear life and is probably afraid to death that someone will snatch him and he'll hit big as an artist. In. That. Order. 

 

Ashley and Don has to be a fake storyline. Right? Right? No one is that tone deaf and dumb. Right? Right?

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The problem with all these folks is, they need to grow up.  These people are not teenagers.  They are in their twenties and thirties, but they all seem not to want to let go of their adolescence.  

I got what Nikki told Phor, that to her, he lets people walk over him (maybe she knows things we haven't seen); BUT it's not her job to fight everybody who wants to take advantage of Phor.  He's a grown man and she needs to let him make his own mistakes.  If not, then she needs to let him go.

Ashley and Don are just trying to stay interesting; because now that he's married and not running after Charmaine, nothing's going on with those two.

I'm sure Charmaine's story is fake, she's probably still on the radio in Chicago.  I have a feel she is looking to be the next Wendy Williams.

I think Rachel is with Ryan because baby daddy #2 didn't blow up as a recording artist the way she thought he would.

I like Kat, but I don't see anything hot about her, except that she's light and IMO these days, many black men like light skinned/biracial women.

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Word, word and triple word on all you saying Neurochick.  It boggles my mind how these people get through life.  Such low standards and short sightedness.  It’s like they don’t have a thought or a plan beyond the next party. 

Van and the girl he is stringing along -  Sweetie after 8 years and he aint put a ring on it, then he isn’t.  Before he gave you that tired Rice-A-Roni conciliation prize key to his apartment he told you point blank what he thought of you.  He said “My daughter misses you and I am lonely in the apt without you” (paraphrasing).  That’s it.  That’s what he thinks of you – a female influence and hairdresser for his daughter and a sheet warmer for him. Did he say I want you around because I love you, my life is better with you and I need to respect what you bring to my life Nooooo. 

Charmaine, Kat and ole girl who suddenly became a stylist overnight – they are what my grandma used to call “Good Time Girls” because that is all men think of you as a girl to have a good time with nothing else don’t take you seriously and don’t respect you.  Charmaine imaneedya to not twerk at the drop of a hat and wear some underwear that covers your hind parts (another of grandma’s phrases)

For all them – Respect yourself and respect your space.  How is Lily gonna move in with Cobra and then give a key to your bf of all of 2 seconds.  Gurl, it aint your place at least discuss it with her.  And how you gonna plop your ass on the counter and make out/hook up with your “bf”  ewww  with a capital EWWWW.

Don and Ashley – Lordy lordy.  I say a prayer for their children because with parents like them….
their marriage is so in trouble.  Don is at least trying to be level headed and realistic but that Ashley SMH.  How can you have a rational conversation with someone who thinks that 1500 for a stroller is doable and makes sense?  Those VH1 checks are gonna end don’t blow it now on stupid stuff.

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I really like the Chicago group. Perhaps because I have a serious thing for Ryan Henry. Anywhooo, question: Did he really have a heart attack?

Is it just me or is that Lily girl downright disrespectful and trashy? I really want Cobra to just put her out. 

Junior really sold Cobra up the river fast, didn't he? Darn. At least play coy for awhile. You know, "Don't worry bout who did it." That kinda coy.

That tattoo Phor did kinda didn't look like the pic BUT like plastic surgery, at what point do you look at your client/patient and say "this isn't a good idea." All money ain't good money. A tattoo on the face of someone grieving and not thinking straight...let's think about this client. Is it me?

 

Left over question from another season: If Ryan and Kat have been regularly hooking up and Danielle is Kat's friend, then why was Danielle trying to have a relationship with Ryan OR vice versa if the timeline is off?

And, I try to mind my own uterus's business but Ashley and hostile dude don't need no more freaking kids!!!

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12 hours ago, announcergirl said:

I really like the Chicago group. Perhaps because I have a serious thing for Ryan Henry. Anywhooo, question: Did he really have a heart attack?

Is it just me or is that Lily girl downright disrespectful and trashy? I really want Cobra to just put her out. 

Junior really sold Cobra up the river fast, didn't he? Darn. At least play coy for awhile. You know, "Don't worry bout who did it." That kinda coy.

That tattoo Phor did kinda didn't look like the pic BUT like plastic surgery, at what point do you look at your client/patient and say "this isn't a good idea." All money ain't good money. A tattoo on the face of someone grieving and not thinking straight...let's think about this client. Is it me?

 

Left over question from another season: If Ryan and Kat have been regularly hooking up and Danielle is Kat's friend, then why was Danielle trying to have a relationship with Ryan OR vice versa if the timeline is off?

And, I try to mind my own uterus's business but Ashley and hostile dude don't need no more freaking kids!!!

I like them too, much better than the NYC crew. Even though the Chicago crew each have their flaws, most of them also at least have some redeeming qualities like they can be funny, nice looking, can actually tattoo, etc, unlike that raggedy bunch. I used to like Ryan a lot more, but he's just too whiny of a bitch and quick to get disrespectful, IMO. He still does great art and he's easy on the eyes.

Lily is trashy for real. It's hard for me to understand what JR sees in her unless he's just desperate (in general OR for a storyline) or she is doing some amazing shit in bed. 

Totally agree about Phor declining that tattoo. In addition to the things you mentioned about the client's state of mind, an artist has to know their forte, and it doesn't seem like portraits are in Phor's wheelhouse. Bad decision making all around that one.

Maybe they hadn't started hooking up yet when he and Danielle tried to make it happen, although I doubt that, because there was always just a little TOO much extra drama to their fights that were supposedly about rent and posters. Did Danielle even know about it at the time though? Who knows, it's all mess. 

Ashley is demented. She is so concerned about being seen as a wife, as lady of the manor, stay at home princess, she doesn't even consider the fact that her husband basically had no official job besides being his brother's (the PART TIME tattoo artist) "assistant" and that these VH1 checks can stop any time. I doubt they're even getting paid that much in the grand scheme of things, reality show wise. Look at the house they're living in. Barely an upgrade from Ashley's hud apartment the first season, then she has no idea about money management, because she just wants to get the item with the largest price tag. She wasn't even concerned with build or quality when furniture shopping or looking for strollers. Just wanted to be able to brag about how much their stuff cost. She really has no self esteem. You can't tell me he is rolling in the dough being a piercer. I would never let him put his hands on me with his spur of the moment, on a whim certification, and you can't convince me he is actually knowledgeable about the body and piercing. What are piercings? $75 or so? He's not doing 5 a day and I'm sure Ryan (ahem Rachel) makes sure to get his cut/rent now.

She just got pregnant because she didn't want to be "even" with the baby mama. This is just a one-up baby. You know she was dying to have a girl, just because. Too bad, bringing another boy into the world to be taught how to disrespect, fight, and borderline abuse women. *sigh*

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And, I try to mind my own uterus's business but Ashley and hostile dude don't need no more freaking kids!!!

 

Kat had the nerve to try to be the victim! First, that vacation was not the place to try to drop that sorry ass bomb on Rachel - who by the way is actually really pretty. That little piece of info reveal could have waited. It was such a producer-driven stretch, hence why Rachel and Ryan went at Rasheed. 

 

Anybody else sick sick of Ashley? 

Also, Phor needs to let angry as, man emasculating, didn't understand the difference between living in one house and just having a key ass Nikki go. I'm done with her trivial blowups. I usually don't want something bad to happen to people, but, since she stay jumping bad in people's faces, I think she needs to meet the right one. You know, so she grows. See, I'm bring positive, right?

And Lilly could go away like yesterday.

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On 11/9/2017 at 9:41 PM, announcergirl said:

No one is watching this with me?:-(

Im kind of barely here, watching parts of episodes on the dvr as I fall asleep. Although I like these people better than NY, they just aren't that entertaining. Charmaine's going to act like an idiot and put her crotch on cam, ridiculous for a 25+ college educated woman; all the men are going to be misogynistic; Don and Ashley (and Phor and whoever and Van and whoever) are going to be stupid and borderline abusive to each other and anyone in spitting distance of their toxic relationships; Cobra, Lily, and Danielle are going to be low self esteem pits of neediness. I can't watch large chunks of this at a time.

At least in the past seasons we were seeing some decent art. Now all we've got is Phor's raggedy work. We havent seen anything from Ryan due to his "heart attack" and broken arm, and we've only seen one flower from Kat. I guess Bone Thugs are the DMX of this franchise, but I was watching Chicago because they did good work, not because I wanted to see a parade of has been rappers and young football players. 

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I'm sick of this group.  They are all in their late 20s or early 30s and act like high school kids.

I've just finished reading the "Poldark" series, yes these books take place in England in the eighteenth and nineteenth century; but in these books there are about four secrets, quite large secrets and you know what?  No one ever tells anybody else "the truth" no one feels the need to; the secrets never come to light, they stay buried and it's okay.  That's what I don't get.  Why did Kat feel the need to tell Rachel anything?  Just shut up and say nothing.  Ryan didn't rape her, so what's the issue?  Kat no reason to open her mouth at all.  

I'm going to edit this because I just watched the episode again.  

This was one of the best reality TV episodes because it acknowledged that this is a SHOW, it broke that third, or fourth wall.  I loved that the producer, Rasheed, who acted as ignorant as anything, using the "n" word and all, got called out; Ryan should have smacked the shit out of him, now THAT would have been great TV.  Ryan was telling Rasheed that he purposely brought Kat back from LA to tell on him.  Rasheed kept saying that Kat wanted to talk, he acted like he didn't know what she wanted to talk about.  Reality TV is evil.

I think Kat told Rachel partly because of her own selfishness.  SHE felt guilty so she wanted to shit on Rachel with her own guilt.  Ryan didn't rape her; she could have told him to fuck off, but she didn't.  So she is as guilty as he is, she is NO victim.

Another interesting thing was Lily not being allowed to see her sisters.  I think Lily's aunt might have found out about the TV show and changed her mind, especially since Lily's sisters are minors.  She probably didn't want those girls' faces on camera, especially since Lily is going around saying her father was killed by the Cartel.  

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So 9 Mag must belong to all of them, and is not solely Ryan's?!

That Kat is a piece of damn work. Ryan is now really in deep doo-doo with Rachel if he didn't fully confess.

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I can't with Kat.  I think she's a great artist, but she's not as hot as all the guys think she is, IMO.  The only reason she gets away with so much is because she's light and "exotic" looking.  There, I said it.

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22 minutes ago, Neurochick said:

I can't with Kat.  I think she's a great artist, but she's not as hot as all the guys think she is, IMO.  The only reason she gets away with so much is because she's light and "exotic" looking.  There, I said it.

No lies were told in this post!

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I'm confused by the whole timeline.

At the end of last season wasn't Ryan dating someone? whatever happened to the blog story about him being the possible baby daddy. When did Kat and Phor stop and when did the Ryan/Kat begin. When did Ryan/Rachel begin again? I don't remember any place that Ryan "claimed" Kat as his girl. She wasn't even claimed as the side.

As a single girl, Kat can fool around with whoever she wants. But she gets emotionally vested so quickly - not a good move when the dude you are fooling around with doesn't want the same out of the hook up. Did she not know that Ryan was trying to get Rachel back or that he was fooling around with Rachel at the same time? Phor chose Nicki and Ryan chose Rachel over Kat. Not a good look for her in either case. Not very professional to shit where you eat.

Why would you think a man who kept you a secret is going to "tell the truth"?

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I wonder if any of these ungrateful fools realize that they would be nowhere had it not been for Ryan and 9Mag, so don't 'diss him you assholes!

On the other hand, I don't think Kat would have opened her mouth had they not been caught on camera. 

I like Charmaine without those ugly wigs she wears, she looks beautiful and much younger with her natural hair.

After seeing this season, Ryan was right to leave.  All of them are act like a bunch of teenagers, they're all turning up and fighting, just low class.

Also, Ryan probably owns the name "9 Mag" so he can do whatever he wants with it. 

This is a reason why a lot of businesses fail, lines get blurred; everybody forgot that 9 Mag was a business all of that "we family" stuff was bound to ruin them, and it looks like it did.

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On 6/1/2018 at 6:08 PM, Neurochick said:

I wonder if any of these ungrateful fools realize that they would be nowhere had it not been for Ryan and 9Mag, so don't 'diss him you assholes!

On the other hand, I don't think Kat would have opened her mouth had they not been caught on camera. 

I like Charmaine without those ugly wigs she wears, she looks beautiful and much younger with her natural hair.

After seeing this season, Ryan was right to leave.  All of them are act like a bunch of teenagers, they're all turning up and fighting, just low class.

Also, Ryan probably owns the name "9 Mag" so he can do whatever he wants with it. 

This is a reason why a lot of businesses fail, lines get blurred; everybody forgot that 9 Mag was a business all of that "we family" stuff was bound to ruin them, and it looks like it did.

I agree. I was happy he closed the chapter on all of them. 

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I may eat my words later on, but is it me or does Ashley sound like she is almost tired of Don’s trifling ass? 

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6 minutes ago, Zeebreezy said:

I may eat my words later on, but is it me or does Ashley sound like she is almost tired of Don’s trifling ass? 

Sounded like it. We can hope. That’s too much! 

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Seeing Ryan outside in the truck with Rachel, showed me that he's more mature than anybody else there.  He's with his girlfriend and the rest of them are in the former shop acting like ignorant, common, low class people.  The worst one of all of them IMO is Charmaine because SHE grew up in a middle class family and had a corporate job, I feel that "ratchet" is a role she's playing for $$$. 

As for Kat, the only reason she wanted to "come clean" to Rachel was because the cameras caught she and Ryan.  Had the cameras not caught them, she never would have opened her mouth.

More low class, common shit.  Ashley and Don's new babymama fighting in a public place.  I cringed at the shots of white folk in the bookstore staring at those two idiots.  Ryan and Rachel, right now look head and shoulders above all these folks.

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On 6/9/2018 at 3:33 PM, Neurochick said:

Seeing Ryan outside in the truck with Rachel, showed me that he's more mature than anybody else there.  He's with his girlfriend and the rest of them are in the former shop acting like ignorant, common, low class people.  The worst one of all of them IMO is Charmaine because SHE grew up in a middle class family and had a corporate job, I feel that "ratchet" is a role she's playing for $$$. 

As for Kat, the only reason she wanted to "come clean" to Rachel was because the cameras caught she and Ryan.  Had the cameras not caught them, she never would have opened her mouth.

More low class, common shit.  Ashley and Don's new babymama fighting in a public place.  I cringed at the shots of white folk in the bookstore staring at those two idiots.  Ryan and Rachel, right now look head and shoulders above all these folks.

Charmaine is ratchet despite her upbringing. You’d eventually crack the facade. 

I think Kat needed a story and Ryan made her feel more important to him than she was. That’s why she told it. It was going to happen.

phoe had no business moving in with that crazy chic anyway. She’s sooo disrespectful. That would be the last time she threw something on me, especially on tv. She knew he wanted to be an artist so why start acting new now.

Nikki: “You care about it more than me?”

Phor: silence

In other words, yes, crazy bitch, yes.

 

Im trying to catch up on the show now; I’ll be back. 

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Ok done with the epi.

Junior dodged a bullet with that crazy Lily. She’s unstable. Maybe bi-polar? I don’t know but her communication skills suck. 

Ryan is gorgeous, even in all his bitchassness- by the way I agree with him and don’t think of him this way at all. 

Po Ashley. Dude got another woman pregnant- again!!! I’ve been through this before. Once was enough. She should not have engaged that attention seeking hoe. She even admitted knowing. Admitted her abortion for him. Did she thin that made her a sympathetic character? I hope this stuff is fake reality.

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21 hours ago, announcergirl said:

Po Ashley. Dude got another woman pregnant- again!!! I’ve been through this before. Once was enough. She should not have engaged that attention seeking hoe. She even admitted knowing. Admitted her abortion for him. Did she thin that made her a sympathetic character? I hope this stuff is fake reality.

I don't think this is completely fake reality.  But these folk are messy as anything.

Ashley is pathetic, she needs to leave Don, pronto.

Phor should have never moved in with Nikki.  But I think all of them are pathetic.  It's like none of them know how to communicate, except fight.  Nikki is gorgeous, she doesn't need to act like a nutcase. 

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1 hour ago, Neurochick said:

I don't think this is completely fake reality.  But these folk are messy as anything.

Ashley is pathetic, she needs to leave Don, pronto.

Phor should have never moved in with Nikki.  But I think all of them are pathetic.  It's like none of them know how to communicate, except fight.  Nikki is gorgeous, she doesn't need to act like a nutcase. 

Nikki is horrid. I couldn’t take someone constantly in my face and fighting me. That’s not love. Why does he stay?

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31 minutes ago, announcergirl said:

Nikki is horrid. I couldn’t take someone constantly in my face and fighting me. That’s not love. Why does he stay?

They probably have great sex.

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Ryan is still a bitchass, with Rachel back and hyping him up only because her attempt at "famous" baby daddy failed and now she's trying again, with Ryan taking responsibility for her leftover baby.  He's so stupid, sitting there lying to his parents about how everyone did him wrong. You can tell by his mom's questions that she knows how he operates.

Nikki is trash, but Phor is weak, so he'll take her back. 

Don is trash, but Ashley is weak, so she'll take him back.

It was rich watching her trying to drag the other girl, when Ashley is the one who continually celebrates being dogged out in exchange for 10 minutes on tv, a tiny appearance fee, slightly upgraded hovel, and a "pick me" title. At least that girl had the sense to get rid of one instead of trying to one up a baby mama like Ashley did. Nothing worse than a dumb hoe who thinks she is smart because she hitched her wagon to a dummy. At least these other girls can get child support from day 1 and not have to be humiliated over and over and over again, whereas Ashley will be stuck, and won't even qualify for alimony because 1) the marriage will be too short and 2) Don will be broke again by then. Plus she will have already put in years with these kids without getting shit from Don besides a used low end Mercedes SUV and a lower middle class rental house.

Lily needs therapy. 

Charmaine's natural is cute.

Danielle should've cut Terrence years ago, reference my dumb pick me hoe notes. 

I hope the crew creates a shop without Ryan. Even if he owns 9Mag (which, by their continued use of the term throughout the season, he may not, since an injunction/gag would've been possible), he doesn't own the Black Ink label, and they can continue to make checks. He does good work, but I can't stand a victim ass, whining, complaining, pussy whipped, duck ass dude. He is just there to take care of whatever baby Rachel spits out by any number of men. Mark my words, if he quits this show, she will find another quasi-star and leave him again, only to come back when she's left high and dry.

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To me, Kat was the real bitchass.  The only reason she said anything to Rachel last year was because she needed a storyline and her being in LA wasn’t doing it, and the cameras caught she and Ryan together.  She said they’d been hooking up for months and she never said a word then.

Where is Kat?

Don is a fool.  These women know he’s weak, and they also know that if they hook up with him, they might end up on TV.

I think Ryan loves Rachel, but she doesn’t seem to feel the same way.

If Ryan wanted to fire all of those messy people, he should have given them notice first, not trash the shop like a three year old.  That was wrong.  

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I think there is a parallel this season between what Ryan did with his crew and what Ashley wants to do, leaving Don and going to Texas. 

Ryan told his crew that they were "family."  But that's not how you do family; you don't up and leave them when they hurt you.  Ashley is also wrong.  Sure, Don was wrong for cheating on Ashley, but they're married.  When you are in a marriage, when you are in a business relationship severing ties takes time, there's a process you have to go through.  Both Ashley and Ryan act just like the rest of this cast, like children.

Interesting that Van's daughter is already weaved up.  And I love Charmaine's natural hair, she looks so beautiful without those ugly wigs she's worn in the past.

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They both need to leave these “families.” I don’t agree with how Ryan and Ashley left, but, overwhelmingly, I applaud them both for having the strength to move on to find better.

The scene with Ashley leaving DJ choked me up. DJ should have left with her. Period.

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25 minutes ago, announcergirl said:

They both need to leave these “families.” I don’t agree with how Ryan and Ashley left, but, overwhelmingly, I applaud them both for having the strength to move on to find better.

The scene with Ashley leaving DJ choked me up. DJ should have left with her. Period.

True, but there are legalities to deal with both.  Ashley should divorce Don, and have a custody agreement with him, they're married.  I worked with a man who got a divorce, his ex wife remarried and her husband got a job in California.  He got a lawyer and said I don't want my son moving across the country.  The judge agreed, and while their son was a minor, she could not move over a certain amount  of miles.  Yes that sucked, but that was the judge's decision.  As for Ryan, I don't blame him one bit for leaving 9Mag, those folks were out of control.  BUT, Ryan was wrong to go into the place and trash it; he could have been arrested for doing that. 

I think it's interesting that Kat's not in this season at all.  I think Nikki was the only person in that group that really had her number. 

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31 minutes ago, Neurochick said:

True, but there are legalities to deal with both.  Ashley should divorce Don, and have a custody agreement with him, they're married.  I worked with a man who got a divorce, his ex wife remarried and her husband got a job in California.  He got a lawyer and said I don't want my son moving across the country.  The judge agreed, and while their son was a minor, she could not move over a certain amount  of miles.  Yes that sucked, but that was the judge's decision.  As for Ryan, I don't blame him one bit for leaving 9Mag, those folks were out of control.  BUT, Ryan was wrong to go into the place and trash it; he could have been arrested for doing that. 

I think it's interesting that Kat's not in this season at all.  I think Nikki was the only person in that group that really had her number. 

I can agree with this.

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