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Hawaii 5-0 In the Media

29 minutes ago, BW Manilowe said:

But don't forget, once the original H50 came along, "Five-0" was also adopted, in real life, in movies, & on fictional TV shows, as a nickname for the police in general, whether or not they were in Hawaii. So I suppose the "Five-0" mention could've been meant in either context; I'd have to see the scene to figure out which context it was meant in--as a Hawaii Five-0-specific reference because Magnum was set in Hawaii, or as a reference to the police in general.

In this case Magnum was trying to get info over the radio, with a who the hell are you coming from the other end when Thomas snaps back "McGarrett Five O".  I still think it was a joke as trying to impersonate the head of a state police agency as if he were famous as he is in the reboot would be leaving himself open to arrest before he had established Lt Tanaka as a friend in HPD.  While others think since the guy did give information that McGarrett and 5-0 were real in the Magnum world and the guy on the other end bowed to the authority figure of Jack Lord/Steve McGarrett.

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On 4/17/2018 at 7:16 PM, anna0852 said:

Geez! I'm guessing we're never going to see Kono again if this is true.

I think the article sounded like Grace had distanced herself from that group awhile ago--& not just 'cause it was apparently finally busted by the cops. Maybe I misunderstood that she'd distanced herself from the group; but I hope Grace's no longer active in it.

Anyway... I'm probably overthinking but (though I know the sex trafficking storyline was started with a different reason in mind--promoting the real life shelter [or whatever they called it] a group wants to build in Honolulu, to hopefully help rescued young victims of sex trafficking to successfully reintegrate into their previous lives), in the end, I sort of wonder if Kono going off to the Mainland to search for whatever was left of the Honolulu sex trafficking ring Five-0 tracked  in 2 S7 eps, as well as any other associated groups she & her co-workers could stop, was supposed to be a meta reference to Grace having apparently been part of that cult in real life (if TPTB with the show & CBS knew that, but didn't know exactly how horrible they really were) since there were reports the group was into sex trafficking (besides branding & blackmailing participants [victims]). 

I think I started reading/hearing about Catherine Oxenberg asking for someone to help her rescue her daughter, India, from the group (after which India made a public statement that she was fine, & her situation wasn't anything like her mother claimed, at all) because Ms. Oxenberg had already heard just how awful the cult was, & she feared for her daughter's safety & life, at least a little bit before it became a discussion topic here. Or maybe the whole thing is coincidentally, unintentionally meta.

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48 minutes ago, Raja said:

In this case Magnum was trying to get info over the radio, with a who the hell are you coming from the other end when Thomas snaps back "McGarrett Five O".  I still think it was a joke as trying to impersonate the head of a state police agency as if he were famous as he is in the reboot would be leaving himself open to arrest before he had established Lt Tanaka as a friend in HPD.  While others think since the guy did give information that McGarrett and 5-0 were real in the Magnum world and the guy on the other end bowed to the authority figure of Jack Lord/Steve McGarrett.

OK. What you've described makes me think Magnum could've been referencing H50 as being a real life part of that universe--but then again, there's still at least a small possibility he could've been referencing McGarrett & Five-0 in terms of them being part of a popular TV show (although the show was in syndication & not producing new episodes by that point; especially since Magnum took original H50's place on the schedule after H50 packed it in.

Plus, there's the whole thing of Magnum apparently was only a TV show in H50's universe--in the ep where Kamekona takes Steve, Danny, & Max (I think that's all there was) up in his sightseeing helicopter for a practice tour at the end of the show, Max starts humming/doing the Magnum theme song out of the blue, & then at least Max & Kamekona, or all of them, start talking about which Magnum characters the people/H50 characters in the chopper would be; and then Max starts doing the theme song again--with everybody joining in this time--& they fade to black. So, who knows how the Magnum reboot will exist in regards to the H50 reboot, if it gets picked up by CBS for this Fall.

Then again, we're talking about a TV show which once did a crossover with at least the Angela Lansbury character from Murder, She Wrote even though the 2 shows don't have any real connection in their fictional universes. They seem to have gone with Jessica (JB) Fletcher being a mystery writer & at least Thomas Magnum having read at least some of JB's books, & Magnum also solving mysteries as a PI.

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I am pretty sure that on Simon and Simon that Magnum P.I. was a TV show before their crossovers. But I do remember watching the Magnum pilot or at least that first batch of episodes before the theme music was changed when I heard McGarrett Five O I took it as the character joking and it is one of those scenes that I retain.  Not the murder of Ivan big but memorable to me.

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From cartermatt.com: Alex O'Loughlin and Scott Caan Both Expected Back for Hawaii Five-0 Season 9

This website, whose owner seems to be a big fan of H50 & a few other TV shows he blogs about regularly, says that, while it isn't set in stone yet, BOTH Alex & Scott are expected back in the show for the upcoming Season 9. Having said that, at least most signs this time last year seemed to say that Daniel Dae Kim & Grace Park would be back for this season--& then they ended up leaving right before filming started.

I kinda assumed, once CBS announced the renewal, it meant at least Alex would be back--because I'd think it'd be too hard to do the show with a different lead actor suddenly dropped into the show's universe after 8 seasons.

But, a lot of me also felt that CBS probably might've renewed the show for this particular coming season because it will have been 50 years, this year/this September 20th, since the H50 franchise originally debuted on CBS. Who knows? Maybe they're planning some way of making that a big deal on air this season. 

It always seems easier, to me, to replace the characters who have supporting roles in series (mainly after that long/a similar length of time) rather than whomever's listed at #1 on the call sheet, more often than not, in a season (although, I think Las Vegas did that transition pretty well when Scott's dad decided to leave the show after 4 seasons & he was replaced as the lead by Tom Selleck playing the new character of the new bazillionaire owner of Las Vegas' [fictional] Montecito Resort & Casino in that show's fifth season--Selleck seemed popular in the role, & I don't remember there being as many complaints about him replacing Scott's dad in that show as there may have been about CBS replacing DDK & Grace Park in this season of H50; but unfortunately [as usually happens with a TV show that makes a major cast replacement around at least 5 seasons in], the show was canceled after Selleck's lone season as the lead).

Anyway, the point I was trying to make above was that I think (in both versions) that the show could (& did, in both versions) probably get renewed with 1 or more changes in the supporting cast, as time goes on; but if you lose the actor playing the lead--especially when the character is as iconic as Steve McGarrett--that will probably kill the show & they won't even entertain the thought of replacing McGarrett as Five-0 head.

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3 hours ago, BW Manilowe said:

From cartermatt.com: Alex O'Loughlin and Scott Caan Both Expected Back for Hawaii Five-0 Season 9

This website, whose owner seems to be a big fan of H50 & a few other TV shows he blogs about regularly, says that, while it isn't set in stone yet, BOTH Alex & Scott are expected back in the show for the upcoming Season 9. Having said that, at least most signs this time last year seemed to say that Daniel Dae Kim & Grace Park would be back for this season--& then they ended up leaving right before filming started.

I kinda assumed, once CBS announced the renewal, it meant at least Alex would be back--because I'd think it'd be too hard to do the show with a different lead actor suddenly dropped into the show's universe after 8 seasons.

But, a lot of me also felt that CBS probably might've renewed the show for this particular coming season because it will have been 50 years, this year/this September 20th, since the H50 franchise originally debuted on CBS. Who knows? Maybe they're planning some way of making that a big deal on air this season. 

It always seems easier, to me, to replace the characters who have supporting roles in series (mainly after that long/a similar length of time) rather than whomever's listed at #1 on the call sheet, more often than not, in a season (although, I think Las Vegas did that transition pretty well when Scott's dad decided to leave the show after 4 seasons & he was replaced as the lead by Tom Selleck playing the new character of the new bazillionaire owner of Las Vegas' [fictional] Montecito Resort & Casino in that show's fifth season--Selleck seemed popular in the role, & I don't remember there being as many complaints about him replacing Scott's dad in that show as there may have been about CBS replacing DDK & Grace Park in this season of H50; but unfortunately [as usually happens with a TV show that makes a major cast replacement around at least 5 seasons in], the show was canceled after Selleck's lone season as the lead).

Anyway, the point I was trying to make above was that I think (in both versions) that the show could (& did, in both versions) probably get renewed with 1 or more changes in the supporting cast, as time goes on; but if you lose the actor playing the lead--especially when the character is as iconic as Steve McGarrett--that will probably kill the show & they won't even entertain the thought of replacing McGarrett as Five-0 head.

 

 James Caan may have been the big name from the movies and listed as number one  but he was in the father mentor role he was never the main player on Las Vegas that was Josh Duhamel's Danny McCoy as their Steve McGarrett. James Caan/Ed Deline would have been more in line with Hawaii's Governors than the head of 5-0 if H50 and Las Vegas switched cast.

 

Speaking of which is Rosalind Chao's Governor Keiko Mahoe still considered a character on the show?

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2 hours ago, Raja said:

 James Caan may have been the big name from the movies and listed as number one  but he was in the father mentor role he was never the main player on Las Vegas that was Josh Duhamel's Danny McCoy as their Steve McGarrett. James Caan/Ed Deline would have been more in line with Hawaii's Governors than the head of 5-0 if H50 and Las Vegas switched cast.

 

Speaking of which is Rosalind Chao's Governor Keiko Mahoe still considered a character on the show?

She's only physically appeared in the S7 episode with the English title "Ready to Play?, & at that season's SOTB & set blessing, but I'm pretty sure I've heard "Governor Mahoe" (as opposed to just "the Governor") name-checked at least once, if not a little more, since then. 

I know the Governor is only really supposed to be a recurring character, but I wish they'd go back to physically showing the character more than just mentioning "the Governor" or "Governor (last name or full name)". I mean, it's supposed to be the Governor's task force; I think we need to see her/him a bit more, like when Jean Smart played Governor Jameson (& I realize that was in S1, when they were trying to establish the premise of the show... that it was the Governor's task force) &, at first, when Richard T. Jones played Governor Jameson's successor, Governor Denning (presumably Governor Mahoe is supposed to be his successor; I thought I figured out a way that worked in the timeline, anyway).

What, exactly, is the point of it being the Governor's task force if we never see the Governor anymore (& I get that we never saw Robin Masters on Magnum, P.I., even though Magnum lived on Robin Masters' estate; or "Charlie" on Charlie's Angels, among others, & the shows worked out fine... but that was part of the premise of those shows, that there was to be a character we heard about/from but didn't see.

The Governor of Hawaii isn't supposed to be a permanently unseen character in the show. If it's a case of actor availability, then--in my opinion--they need to sign someone to play the Governor who's more available than Richard T. Jones seemed to become after awhile, or than Rosalind Chao apparently was (but in looking at her credits on IMDb, there doesn't seem to be that much after her H50 credit). I think Jean Smart was on a reasonable number of times; especially since she was working on another show (recurring character) at the same time.

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It's one thing for 5-0 to pull the illegal stunts they pull as the "Governor's task force", with the Governor not involved, and another if the Governor knows what they're doing.  I think it works better this way.  Besides, the more they show the Governor, the more likely they are to get killed.

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From ET Online: Dancing with the Stars' Cheryl Burke Engaged to Actor Matthew Lawrence on Her Birthday

Matthew played the recurring character of computer hacker Aaron Wright, who went up against Five-0 early in the still current S8 by doing things like letting another recurring character, arsonist Jason Duclair, out of prison by using his knowledge of computers. Aaron is/was the brother of fellow computer hacker Ian Wright (Joe Jonas), a teenager who got entangled with Five-0 in S4 when McGarrett & Grover went to serve him with a warrant related to 1 or more unpaid traffic tickets, then he escaped from police/Five-0 custody to parts unknown for awhile; then he returned in the S4 Finale & kidnaped Grover's daughter, to force Grover's participation in a theft involving a great deal of money because of Grover helping Steve with the ill-fated serving of the unpaid traffic tickets warrant against him. Grover's daughter was released from Ian's clutches after then-recurring master criminal Wo Fat arrived on the scene, somehow, & shot Ian to death.

Also, Matthew Lawrence is 1 of the 2  (of 3 total) acting Lawrence brothers who appeared on H50 in recurring roles this season; brother Andrew Lawrence plays HPD forensic crime lab technician, & Danny's formerly slacker (but still with a tendency to know the wrong time to say the wrong things), nephew, Eric "E-Train" Russo. Eric got on the "straight & narrow", & became interested in forensic science/crime lab work, after being sent to Hawaii to spend time with his Uncle Danny & Danny's partner, Steve McGarrett, because Eric's mom couldn't deal with his shenanigans anymore. Matthew's played Eric, as a recurring character, since either S6 or S7, I think.

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You’re confusing Matthew with Joey Lawrence.  There are THREE brothers, and Joey played Aaron Wright.

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19 hours ago, roamyn said:

You’re confusing Matthew with Joey Lawrence.  There are THREE brothers, and Joey played Aaron Wright.

You're right. I did confuse Matthew & Joey, as far as which 1 played Aaron Wright on H50 earlier this season. Apologies. Joey did play Aaron Wright, the computer hacker brother of fellow computer hacker Ian Wright (a 2-episode recurring villain character in S4 played by 1 of the 3 Jonas brothers, either Joe or Nick... there's also Kevin, who I know wasn't on H50)--but since I screwed up the Lawrence brothers, as to who played Ian's equally slimy brother, Aaron, I'm not even gonna try to say which Jonas brother (Joe, Nick or Kevin) played Ian.

But I did correctly say how many Lawrence brothers there are. I said:

On 5/4/2018 at 7:05 AM, BW Manilowe said:

Also, Matthew Lawrence is 1 of the 2  (of 3 total) acting Lawrence brothers who appeared on H50 in recurring roles this season; brother Andrew Lawrence plays HPD forensic crime lab technician, & Danny's formerly slacker (but still with a tendency to know the wrong time to say the wrong things), nephew, Eric "E-Train" Russo. Eric got on the "straight & narrow", & became interested in forensic science/crime lab work, after being sent to Hawaii to spend time with his Uncle Danny & Danny's partner, Steve McGarrett, because Eric's mom couldn't deal with his shenanigans anymore. Matthew's played Eric, as a recurring character, since either S6 or S7, I think.

Maybe I wrote it weird. But I said--& know--there are 3 acting Lawrence brothers total (Joey, Matthew, & Andrew), which I think I also said/proved I know in the first paragraph above. And I said 2 of them--Andrew & Matthew (but I meant Joey)--acted in H50: Andrew, who's recurred since either S6 or S7 as Danny's nephew, Eric "E-Train" Russo, a former screw up who became an HPD Forensic/Crime Lab Technician after being sent to Hawaii, to be straightened out by his Uncle Danny, & following Danny & McGarrett around on a case & discovering he liked, & was good at, finding clues to help the case.

Like on the case Five-0 worked on when the Eric character was introduced, which had to do with the murder of a college professor, I think; Eric noticed a bottle or can of pop, at some point, then realized somebody could've (& did) fix it so test answers, or something, were hidden among/in place of all the nutritional info & the usual stuff that comes printed on a bottle/can of pop. And he told Steve & Danny, which helped them with the case. Although there are still some occasions when Eric reverts to his original form & says the wrong thing about something or someone; like he'll make a misogynistic comment about women, in front of a woman, like Kono). 

Then there's also the previously mentioned Joey (who I called Matthew), who played the equally slimy, computer hacking, character of the brother to the Jonas brother's character. I think he was supposed to have sort of been out for revenge over his brother's death (although Wo Fat killed Ian, not Five-0, though I don't think they ever explained why Wo Fat killed Ian).

I may have been wrong about Matthew Lawrence playing Aaron Wright earlier this season, but I realized that the Matthew Lawrence/Cheryl Burke couple does have a bit of a connection to H50 after all, through Cheryl. Back in Spring 2015, while Cheryl Burke was on a break from DWTS, she & Alan Ritchson (who played--in 1 episode--Freddie Hart, Steve's BFF & SEAL team member who was killed on a secret mission inside North Korea, which Steve selected him for, to try & locate the Hesse brothers) were among the celebrities in an NBC primetime variety/game/reality show, I Can Do That, which was apparently based on an Israeli TV show, & the 5-6 celebs in the show (the same celebs were on each week) apparently were tasked with learning how to do something by the next week's show & performing that task on the next week's show. If you did the task, or whatever, successfully, you got a certain number of points; the celeb with the most points accumulated during the season was declared the overall winner, whatever that meant (I think the celebs were competing for charity, but I can't remember now, since it's 3 years later).

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EW reports on their "TV deathwatch" page that 5-0 has been renewed. Has this definitely happened?

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7 hours ago, Moxie Cat said:

EW reports on their "TV deathwatch" page that 5-0 has been renewed. Has this definitely happened?

It's definitely happened, & to a whole boatload (OK only about 11, really) of other CBS shows, as well, including Lenkov's MacGyver reboot which got a third season. The renewals were announced on Wednesday, April 18th. As the article states, there are still a few veteran series whose fates haven't been determined yet (Criminal Minds & Code Black, which just started airing their S3, among them). We also don't know yet if Lenkov's Magnum P.I. reboot got picked up or not--they should finish announcing the fates of the remaining older shows soon; then they'll get to announcing the first-year shows.

According to this, CBS' Upfront presentation, where they'll present their fall schedule to their advertisers (& I think representatives from their local affiliates) is scheduled for 4PM Eastern Time, Wednesday, May 16th, at Carnegie Hall in NYC. That's, like, Wednesday of next week (& 2 days before the H50 season 8 finale airs), so we should hear something soon about the fates of the remaining old shows on CBS as well as which new show pilots got picked up.

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I don’t think Scorpion has been announced yet, either.

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10 hours ago, roamyn said:

I don’t think Scorpion has been announced yet, either.

It hasn't. There's, like, 11 shows (I think) that CBS hasn't renewed/officially canceled yet (the un-canceled are low-rated shows that have run all the ordered eps, & aren't on the schedule right now, but have yet to either be renewed, by some miracle, or have their likely cancellations officially announced). I couldn't remember all of them. On the comedy side, I think Life in Pieces is another of the 11, or however many it is, shows CBS still has to officially cancel or renew.

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CBS' Schedule for 2018-19 has been announced. Lenkov's new Magnum PI reboot takes the 9-10PM Eastern timeslot on Mondays that was originally held by the first 2 seasons of his Hawaii Five-0 reboot.

CBS' Friday night schedule remains the same as the 2 seasons before this: Lenkov's MacGyver & Hawaii Five-0 reboots air from 8-9PM & 9-10PM Eastern; Tom Selleck's current series, Blue Bloods, continues to close out the CBS Friday night schedule, airing from 10-11PM Eastern.

Here's CBS' Complete 2018-19 Schedule, From Variety

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From Spoiler TV: CBS Fall Premiere Dates

Regarding the 3 Peter Lenkov reboots:

Magnum PI premieres Monday, September 24, at 9PM Eastern/8PM Central.

MacGyver & Hawaii-Five-0 both premiere Friday, September 28, at 8PM Eastern/7PM Central & 9PM Eastern/8PM Central, respectively.

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